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Increasing space on internal memory.

I am currently running the R3 rom with Apps2sd+. At the moment i have around 80mb free. I wanted to increase the memory so uninstalled a 5mb app but when i go to settings, the internal memory was still the same, it did not increase.
Why is this? I thought if i got rid of a 5mb app, it should increase the memory by 5mb.

i'm pretty sure you have to restart the phone for it to be updated, has happened to me some times

Ive also tried that but did not increase.

Anyone else got any ideas?

You are using Apps2sd. Apps are stored on your sd card so uninstalling will not change the internal storage amount. 80mb is loads - why do you need 5mb more?

Is there a minimum internal memory needed on the desire so that it does not affect the phones performance?
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I've been down to 15mb and not noticed any performance hit.

325i. said:
Is there a minimum internal memory needed on the desire so that it does not affect the phones performance?
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Yeah, one megabyte. No, I'm not being glib.

[Q] Available internal memory for applications?

Hi all,
my wife owns a Wildfire S since a couple of days.
But I am quite disappointed about the amount of available memory (internal storage) for applications.
She does not have a lot of applications installed (about 5), but the available is only about 93 MB.
When going to "Settings - Applications - Manage Applications" it shows me at the bottom of the screen "Internal Storage: 57MB used, 93MB free".
The phone specs state RAM 512 MB and Internal Storage also 512MB. Why is it showing only 140MB in reality?
Can someone explain this, please?
Is this normal?
How much available storage do you guys have on yours, please?
(Btw, also via "Settings - Storage" it shows "92,07MB as available space" on internal storage)
The phone is a T-Mobile branded one from The Netherlands.
Thanks in advance.

Mine got 512MB internal storage as well, but i think that the OS uses some space that don't show up. Have you tried moving apps to the SD card?

Moving apps to SD indeed does free up some memory, however...
I have only installed a few apps (less then 10mb all together), therefore I am quite disappointed with the little available memory.
The phone is a dutch Tmobile version. I can see there are a few Tmobile apps built-in into the rom, but surely they can't take up that much space, could it? (Adding up used + available internal storage only totals about 150mb, which is far from the 512mb as in the specs?)
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Same issue! I got mine yesterday and after barely installing anything. Im low on internal memory and it adds up to 140mb not 512.

Btw android, sense and other HTC things take up that memory. It is only 512mb when there is nothing on the internal memory.

Same issue here. Quite a disappointment and no way to really solve it.

Hello all, search 'darktremor app2sd' in this xda website
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Im amazed at how little memory this phone has. After 2 days and 5 apps its basically completely out of space. I liked the smaller form factor but this is ridiculous.

U can move all of ur apps to SD if u want...and it doesn't even require rooting...i was also having problem with this whole low internal memory thing..but i found this...
"http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/174345-how-move-apps-sd-card-unrooted-device-noobs-guide-updated-09-02-11-a.html"
its quiet simple really...it does help a little...with this u can use "move to SD card" option in application settings for nearly all the apps..
Hope this helps..
PS : u can use an app called android tool box..its really useful..it has many options like app manager, cache cleaner,file explorer,start up manager and many more..it is quiet handy when u'r low on Ram or space..

APPS2SD Question

I downloaded apps2sd in the market and if I move an apps to as it actually moves it to the internal usb storage and not a as card. At the bottom it says there is 11.5 gb available. So wouldn't the apps still run the same speed since they are being moved to just another partition on the internal storage?
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I believe we have 2gb or so internal storage for apps on this phone... so there should really be no need for apps2sd...
To answer ur question, if the internal memory is just a partition of the total space on the phone, then yes, the apps should be recalled at the same speed...
Since we have so much internal space for apps however, its better to keep the apps on the internal memory, so when u mount ur "sd", u can still run ur apps
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Yeah I just thought that apps couldn't go into the USB storage. Just kinda cool if you run out of room even though 2gb is a lot of space.
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How much free ram do you have?

Ehi guys how much free ram do you have?
Mine shows like 40mb only everytime, how to increase it?
Any mod?
Or other things?

Try V6 Supercharger
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ArmorD said:
Try V6 Supercharger
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Already using it

Free RAM is not the issue, it's whether your phone has breathing space.
For instance, I can have 50mb free but everything runs fast because the RAM is used up by apps that I use.
However, if your RAM is being used up by background services and apps that you don't use, then it will produce occasional slow down.
In other words, free RAM is not the goal, but properly utilised RAM.
All this being said, I hope RAM management improves with ICS.
When you restart your phone, check the RAM after it fully starts up (without opening any apps). Mine is 150 used, 150 free.
Andy

I have 267MB free.. Arc S...

You on a custom ROM?
I'm running stock, rotted, so some system apps removed.

Mine has around 140MB of free ram.Try to reduce unnecessary widgets from the homescreen.

If rooted use titanium backup and move internal apps to system.
Use the integrate into ROM function. System apps have there own partition.
This might help with lag issue.
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zolaisugly said:
If rooted use titanium backup and move internal apps to system.
Use the integrate into ROM function. System apps have there own partition.
This might help with lag issue.
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Can you explain me better please?

If you want a lot of free ram
Just install Gemini task killer and app manager ..also download fast reboot from the store
I usually get about 200 meg free ram when i reboot and about 175 free ram after 24 hours ..
I am rooted and using aniking rom ...
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davibs said:
Can you explain me better please?
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OK if your phone is rooted then use an app from the market which is called titanium backup.
Once installed press menu button select batch option look for option to make a backup of all 'system apps and user apps'
once the backup its complete. Look for option in batch setting 'integrate into ROM'
This will move some internal apps into the system partition of the phone, this will free up your visible internal free memory.
I have moved maps, gmail, adobe flash into rom and they run with out any issue and still update
Hope fully this will help if you are having any lag issue.
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I have 100 to 150 mb free. I use icelite beta1, but i have installed ram manager free from market becouse my ram was always under 60 mb and i have experienced some lags. But now all works fine. Hope it helps

When it starts it has around 200MB of RAM, with moderate use (Browser, YouTube, maybe a game, Twitter..) around 140MB, never goes below 100.
I have Arc S, currently unrooted (bricked it once, waiting on ICS)
and I think RAM managment will be better in Ice Cream

185 ~ 165 MB
From my sexy LT15i

Just curious where y'all are picking these numbers from? And just how many are confusing "RAM" with "storage"?
And, don't forget, "free" (as in unused) RAM is wasted RAM. In a perfect system, you would have 0 MB of free RAM, as every bit of RAM that wasn't currently in use by an app would be used to cache data to prevent the uber-slow reads from disk.

Phoenix is right. Free RAM is wasted RAM
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0 ram in a perfect system? There must always be some free ram, because new opened apps need it. But je can use swap memory. I use it to, and it's boost my system. But use a good sd card when u want to use swap memory. I have a class 10 sd card, so I don't have any problems whit my swap memory. I installed a2sd and use the app a2sdGui tot set the swapines. Swapines is how much the system use the swap memory.
Swap memory is the same as virtual memory in windows. But when you only have a class 4 sd card, I don't advice you to use swap memory. And whit a2sd you also can put system apps to your sd, on a sd-ext partition. Search on XDA and you find something about it.

Cuerrix said:
Phoenix is right. Free RAM is wasted RAM
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No!
Arc (S) gets slow and laggy below ~60MB free RAM.
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Usually 150 to 185. Depending on the applications I'm running on background.

spit85 said:
0 ram in a perfect system? There must always be some free ram, because new opened apps need it.
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No, you don't need free RAM for this. RAM currently being used for Cache, marked as Inactive, or used for Buffers will either be discarded or flushed to disk, and then that newly freed RAM will be used for the new app.
In Linux (which is what's under/behind Android), there are 5 categories of memory usage:
- Active (RAM currently in use by the app)
- Inactive (RAM used by apps that aren't currently running but were recently so could be used again quickly if you run the same app again)
- Cached (RAM used by the OS to cache disk reads/writes; can be flushed to disk at any time for use by apps)
- Buffer (RAM used by the OS to buffer various things; can be discarded at any time for use by apps)
- Free (completely unused RAM just sitting there doing nothing)
In a perfect system, Free would be 0. Any available RAM would be used by apps (Active) or the OS (Cached/Buffer). And anytime an app needs RAM, it would grab it from the Cached/Buffer groups.
But je can use swap memory. I use it to, and it's boost my system. But use a good sd card when u want to use swap memory. I have a class 10 sd card, so I don't have any problems whit my swap memory.
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Swap use is an indication that the system has too little (not enough) RAM for the number of apps you want to use and is really just a crutch. The less swap you use, the better the system will run.
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Flo95 said:
No!
Arc (S) gets slow and laggy below ~60MB free RAM.
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And, again, how are you measuring "free" RAM? I'm willing to bet that what most people are measuring is not actually "Free" RAM, but what the Settings --> Applications --> Running applet shows as "free", which is really a total of Cached, Buffer, and Free (IOW, it's showing "RAM available for use by apps" and not "Free, as in wasted, RAM". Those are two very different things.)
Install a real stats/monitoring tool like Diagnosis and configure it to show "free" ("Real free memory", not "Total free memory"; the former is Free, the latter is Free+Cached+Buffers) memory, and you'll notice that it will hover around/under 5 MB most of the time. When you first power on, "Free" will be 40-80 MB. Fire up a few apps, and it will drop down to almost 0 MB. And it will hover there until you reboot the phone.
Which is exactly what it's supposed to do!
"Free" RAM is wasted RAM.

[Q] something better than link2sd for stock rom?

I'm using the stock kernel and, of course, facing issues with the small internal memory. I'm using link2sd, but it still leaves a fair amount of data in the internal memory (ie, 16 mb for Asphalt 6, 14 mb for Facebook, 13 mb for Flash, a couple of mb for many other apps), so I'm always with a somewhat limited space for applications.
So I wonder if there is something capable of moving far more data to the SD card, so I don't need to worry about having enough room for apps. I was looking at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.mounts2sd but it mentions init.d support, and googling about all that stuff doesn't really explain it in more layman terms.
Thanks in advance

You cant be using Link2Sd properly then. It leaves virtually nothing in the internal memory. I had a 32gb SD card full of games and still had about 200mb free internal memory. When you create a link are you trying to move the apps to SD afterwards as they should show as being on internal?

Well, I have it set up to link automatically on application install, and to link application, dalvik-cache and libraries. The install locationis set to external and I have ticked the check boxes to relink libraries and dex files at startup.
To test it, I've unistalled Facebook and reinstalled. Once the app finishes installing, I get the link2sd notification that it's linking it to the SD. I login to my account and once I go to the application settings to check the app size, it reports a total of 31,33 MB, of which 23,56 MB correspond to the aplication and 7,77 MB to data. And has the option to move to the SD so it's certainly in the internal memory.
Link2SD storage info reports the internal memory (380 Mb total, 15% free), the Sd card (12% free) and the sd card's second partition, at /data/sdext2, with 712 MB total, of which 390Mb are used.

Sorry for bumping, but is the link2sd behaviour I'm describing normal behaviour then?

juanml82 said:
Sorry for bumping, but is the link2sd behaviour I'm describing normal behaviour then?
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Yes, it does appear to be normal behaviour. Try going into the Link2SD app and see if it says whether the app is linked or not. I've had instances where my apps don't get linked even after running the process. When you check the application size in settings (not in Link2SD), the application size will remain unchanged as I think Link2SD treats your partition as internal storage and therefore it still shows the application as it's full size as opposed to how much of it is actually on your internal storage
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