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Hello All,
Like most, I am loving my Dash and getting to know it very well. I am wondering if anybody has looked into stopping the screen from lighting up every time a message is received. It seems to me that this is a waste of battery power. I leave my Dash on all of the time and would like to maximize battery life.
Any help appreciated.
Regards,
Aaron J. Wood
damn you must get a ton of messages or be running something that is eatting battery. I can run mine for about a day and a half with average use. now if i run OctroTalk barly a day because it eats battery.
Not sure if thats possible, unless there is a way to turn off the display completely... Have you tried key-locking the phone and seeing if it still illuminates when you receive an sms?
First, the set up.
I have an Incredible running Skyraider 2.52 with the 2.6.32.15-adrynalyne kernel. I use SetCPU to set some rather aggressive battery preservation, chief among them being the profile that sets the CPU to 245mHz on screen off (using the Powersave scaling so as to eliminate CPU polling). I have Autokiller set to near absurd levels (the Ultimate preset). I even use Autorun Killer to disable some nonsense apps from starting at boot. Needless to say, battery is a priority.
Also, I should note that I am using the 1750 mah Seido battery.
This morning, I charged my phone to 100% (even a little beyond that, as I charged it with the phone off, but not until I hit the green). I unplugged the phone from my car charger at 9:20 AM. Wifi, Bluetooth, and mobile network were all off. I literally did not touch my phone for the next ten minutes, and yet...
By 9:30 AM, I was at 90%!
I quickly started up Froyo Task Killer, which allows me to force stop programs through Android's own task management. I closed several useless but likeable apps (like ONN and G4) and put my phone back in my pocket.
By 12:47 PM, after not touching the phone again, I was at 80%.
Clearly, you can see the difference in battery usage while otherwise in standby.
Is this a clear case for killing tasks, or is there something else at play? I know that task killers are a cause for serious debate, and 2.2 doesn't play nice with them, but this is a pretty weird case.
You're making an assumption that the battery discharge rate (or rather the displayed rate) is linear. In my experience, this is not the case.
You make an excellent point. However, in most ordinary circumstances, and certainly while running stock Eclair, I usually found that the first 10% battery drain took longer, certainly longer than 10 minutes.
Either way, 1% per hour is, all strange battery magic aside, pretty remarkable for a phone that is in standby with screen off in pocket. Especially when given the lengths I've gone to in attempts to extend said battery life.
once froyo hit i uninstalled my task killer.... haven't looked back since.
I currently run SystemPanel by NextApp.
It will prove to you that task killing is practically a placebo but I highly recommend it just to be aware of whats ACTUALLY killing your battery.
I use the stock battery and the OEM 1500mah. I am pretty happy with what I can get out of the extra capacity battery.
Try turning off 3G when you don't need it using the HTC widget.
If you can't stand the stock apps that always start up on your phone but don't want to delete them do as I did and get the full version of titanium backup (3.99) and freeze all the apps. Out will pretty much just like the name says, freeze the apps. You can then thaw them out when you need them.
I got almost 2 days up time and like 12 of those were up on the 1500 battery. Now I have the 2150 i am at 50 hours up and 10 hours awake with still 50 percent to go, that's first charge too, can't wait till it breaks in
Oh and I was reading somewhere that one of the roms has a problem like that. It might be the skyraider
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mihneagabriel said:
If you can't stand the stock apps that always start up on your phone but don't want to delete them do as I did and get the full version of titanium backup (3.99) and freeze all the apps. Out will pretty much just like the name says, freeze the apps. You can then thaw them out when you need them.
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Autostarts would probably be an easier way of doing this.
kensikora said:
You make an excellent point. However, in most ordinary circumstances, and certainly while running stock Eclair, I usually found that the first 10% battery drain took longer, certainly longer than 10 minutes.
Either way, 1% per hour is, all strange battery magic aside, pretty remarkable for a phone that is in standby with screen off in pocket. Especially when given the lengths I've gone to in attempts to extend said battery life.
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why would you bother having a smartphone if your intent is to leave it in the pocket? I get about 24+ hrs uptime one one charge (stock bat). Generally on WiFi, GPS, and Max Brightness for half of it.
Charge at work since I'm at my desk and no problems. Battery life is great, but if you don't want to use the phone in attempts to get max life, seems quite pointless to own such a powerful device.
Skyraider 3.1
You can go into battery info in the settings and see what is causing battery drain.
In my experience, most drain is when I'm inside a building with poor reception and my phone is on overdrive trying to find signal. Usually I turn on airplane mode and use WiFi if that's the case.
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Maybe its the kernel. Also I would stop killing the apps, not to save battery but because since they were stopped by the user, the Android system might start them up again almost instantaneously. But this depends on core processes and weather Android is done processing any info or other stuff from that app.
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MMBosstones86 said:
why would you bother having a smartphone if your intent is to leave it in the pocket?
Skyraider 3.1
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I am not aiming for battery life alone, but I like to leave work and not need to recharge for an hour before I head out. I leave it in my pocket at work because, well, I'm at work. Although I do usually get in a few levels of Angry Birds or Shoot U.
The question is, how can I minimize battery use when my phone is idle so that I have the battery to screw around with it when I want to or have time.
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If you can't stand the stock apps that always start up on your phone but don't want to delete them do as I did and get the full version of titanium backup (3.99) and freeze all the apps.
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I never knew what that did. I knew the feature existed, but hadn't bothered looking into it. I already bought the full version for totally hands-free installs, so I guess I can now take care of Peep and Flickr.
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Autostarts would probably be an easier way of doing this.
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I had never heard of Autostarts. I seem to find that any apps that aim to disable startup entries always fail to list the apps I am most interested in blocking, but for 90 cents, I am definitely willing to give it a shot.
Edit: I haven't had a chance to determine its effect on battery life, but Autostarts is brilliant. It makes so much more sense to actually change startup entries than to try and stop a task after it starts. I also was unaware of how many events trigger apps to start. That is one powerful app.
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The 10% drop at the beginning has nothing to do with apps or task killing. It's a bug, the battery isn't telling the software the correct percentage it is at. Killing apps won't do anything to fix it.
If you want to 'fix' it, do a bump charge. Turn off your phone when it hits green, keep it charging till it hits green again.
Hey guys,
I'm coming from a Droid X. Battery comparison is night and day. I have to constantly worry about my battery life. I hate this...
Has anyone discovered any problem apps that stay running in the background or constantly update that would cause the phone to drain the battery? I have watchdog and it doesn't really toss any red flags...
I keep brightness @ auto (as I feel I should). I rely on the OS to handle most of the app management. I trust that Google should have made the OS to handle itself...
Anyone have anything particular useful?
FYI -- I would consider myself a pretty intermediate android user.
This has been bugging me for quite a while now. My battery is draining away at an abnormal speed.
I thought it may have something to do with some bloated apps so I was doing a factory reset. And then I thought hey why not installed a new ROM onto my one X to breathe some new air into it.
Turns out more complex to do than a WM6 phone (yeah that was the last time fiddling with phone and roms for me) but I'm really satisfied with the result. Rooted and installed the ICJ onto it. The phone is much more snappy and looks like new. Thanks lord and his team.
HOWEVER, my battery is still draining away really fast...
It can drain around 30% from 15 mins of playing music (without earphones) and scrolling through menus. I'm even running task killer scheduled for every 30 minutes and using greenify to hold off most unneeded apps.
I also run games. With it charged the battery actually runs out more than it can charge!
The battery indicator is also acting weird. It could jump from 97% to 100% and when I unplug the charge back to 97%
Are there other kernels I can use for better battery life? Or do I have to stick with the one provided with the rom?
Or are there nothing else I could do? Assuming that it is a hardware problem now with its unchangeable battery.....
Any helps greatly appreciated. I'd really like to know if my phone is beyond saving at this point. Thanks.
himegoto said:
This has been bugging me for quite a while now. My battery is draining away at an abnormal speed.
I thought it may have something to do with some bloated apps so I was doing a factory reset. And then I thought hey why not installed a new ROM onto my one X to breathe some new air into it.
Turns out more complex to do than a WM6 phone (yeah that was the last time fiddling with phone and roms for me) but I'm really satisfied with the result. Rooted and installed the ICJ onto it. The phone is much more snappy and looks like new. Thanks lord and his team.
HOWEVER, my battery is still draining away really fast...
It can drain around 30% from 15 mins of playing music (without earphones) and scrolling through menus. I'm even running task killer scheduled for every 30 minutes and using greenify to hold off most unneeded apps.
I also run games. With it charged the battery actually runs out more than it can charge!
The battery indicator is also acting weird. It could jump from 97% to 100% and when I unplug the charge back to 97%
Are there other kernels I can use for better battery life? Or do I have to stick with the one provided with the rom?
Or are there nothing else I could do? Assuming that it is a hardware problem now with its unchangeable battery.....
Any helps greatly appreciated. I'd really like to know if my phone is beyond saving at this point. Thanks.
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For a start, your task killer will be killing your battery, especially on such a short schedule. Stick to Greenify ONLY. Task killers have a habit of killing tasks mid-use meaning they have to re-run to complete whatever they are doing which forces CPU to operate at high clocks instead of going into deep sleep.
Remove the task killer completely and let the ROM settle for a day or two.
Tigerlight said:
For a start, your task killer will be killing your battery, especially on such a short schedule. Stick to Greenify ONLY. Task killers have a habit of killing tasks mid-use meaning they have to re-run to complete whatever they are doing which forces CPU to operate at high clocks instead of going into deep sleep.
Remove the task killer completely and let the ROM settle for a day or two.
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This had been going on for a few months and I just been using this task killer since flashing the new rom.
Anyway, ran a test with nova battery tester, my battery only has 1270 juice. Looks like a hardware problem afterall.
A shame really, I love the slick design of this device instead of the rigid aluminum on the one. But hell I wont be getting another unchangeable battery phone.
Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
I'm actually seeing the opposite. On Saturday I had mine plugged in and charged to 100%. I took it off the charger and threw it in my bag, where it sat for about 7-8 hours (drove about 3-4 hours and then it was in my car for a few at a restaurant before bringing it into the hotel), wifi and bluetooth on, but disconnected the entire time. It is in a Poetic smart flip cover so screen was off the entire time.
When I got into the hotel it was still at 100%. Used it for a bit that evening, and again the next day before driving home, and finally used it some more at home, but still had over 50% left before bed.
My battery life is also suspect.
fury683 said:
I'm actually seeing the opposite. On Saturday I had mine plugged in and charged to 100%. I took it off the charger and threw it in my bag, where it sat for about 7-8 hours (drove about 3-4 hours and then it was in my car for a few at a restaurant before bringing it into the hotel), wifi and bluetooth on, but disconnected the entire time. It is in a Poetic smart flip cover so screen was off the entire time.
When I got into the hotel it was still at 100%. Used it for a bit that evening, and again the next day before driving home, and finally used it some more at home, but still had over 50% left before bed.
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I was one of the Android L developer preview early adopters and the only thing that kept me from switching back to cyanogenmod was the fact that on the last developer preview whenever Flo said the battery was low I was so surprised I felt cheated. The battery life was so good every time it gave me low battery life notification I was shocked because I had forgotten that this thing even has a battery and needs to be charged.
I don't know if this is psychosomatic or what, but it sure doesn't feel like this on 5.0 or 5.01.
Full disclosure: it's reporting 6h 22m of screen on time with 5 hours of battery life left to go, but it sure doesn't feel that way.
The battery settings used to tell me ridiculous things like 6 days of charge left. It doesn't do that anymore.
Right now I'm in the process of discharging it all the way to death. We'll see if that makes a difference.
collin5022 said:
Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
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Yes I'm having this issue. After upgrading via ota my tablet is dead in less than two days from battery drain
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@collin5022
OTA, OTA with factory reset or img flashing?
Because if you upgrade yours N7 via OTA without factory reset that (and various others) bugs are possible.
My N7 doesnt show idle battery drain (img flashed) or any other bug, so far im very satisfied with 5.0/5.0.1 android.
First off don't close applications this is not Microsoft windows, second use CPUspy and a wakelock detector to see what is preventing your tablet from deep sleeping, third use a system disable app like auto run manager to disable any services necessary, fourth.....profit
^Agreed except for the last part.
Those apps that stop/freeze other apps like the one you mentioned, greenify, anything like that are all bull**** that cause more problems than they claim to fix, IMO.
Flash the factory image. Don't take the ota or keep data when its a major new release.
Battery life is awesome on 5.0.1 never been better.
Android 5.0.1
Default OTA 5.0.1 brings NFC active! When i turned it off, the battery became significantly more durable!
Just try it!
yosmokinman said:
^Agreed except for the last part.
Those apps that stop/freeze other apps like the one you mentioned, greenify, anything like that are all bull**** that cause more problems than they claim to fix, IMO.
Flash the factory image. Don't take the ota or keep data when its a major new release.
Battery life is awesome on 5.0.1 never been better.
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If you disable the 3 common service locks keeping the device from sleeping there have been no problems so far for me on n5 or n7
And yes greenify is worthless autorun manager not so much
^Yeah I see what you're saying. But still I don't like interfering with system apps, well like play services I mean. That can cause problems and battery drain. It really depends on how you use the tablet.
Edit: And obviously like said don't be closing running/cached apps. This isn't Windows 98.
collin5022 said:
Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
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Well I fixed it by flashing the unofficial cyanogen mod build for the Nexus 7. Battery life back to 4 days like I'm used to, and no idle drain.
Sent from my precious aka Nexus 7 using xda app. Any errors in the post are caused by auto correct and as such are Larry Page's fault, not mine.
I have the same issue something is keeping mine from sleeping cause its always warm. I used to get 5 days now I only get 3.