I have noticed that there are two plastic pins/ridges at the base of the multimedia dock that press so hard against the lower edge of the tab that they will physically warp the screen protector. On an unprotected tab, these might cause physical damage over time. These plastic pins or ridges form two pressure points on either side of the Samsung Logo. - and before anyone points this out: yes I know its supposed to have gorilla glass, but I am not that confident in it, and the pins are close enough to potentially damage the plastic edge-frame of the tab.
These same pins/ridges are NOT present in the keyboard dock and no warping of screen protectors or severe pressure points occur.
For this reason I have discontinued using the multimedia dock and am currently using the keyboard dock instead.
I have included pictures of the pressure points and pins below.
Thanks for noticing this ... I will check it out.
If the pins are plastic i dont think they can damage the hard glass.
Yes they are plastic, and the pins/ridges don't look like much, and may or may not cause any harm to the tab, but the amount of warping of the screen protector really bothers me. The warping that you see in the photos progresses as the tab stays in the dock. After a while the corners star to peel upward as well, and I wind up with a two inch diamber bubble that I have to keep smoothing out. So, despite appearances I suspect there is a lot of stress along the lower edge of the dock.
When I put the tab in the keyboard dock instead, the screen protector stays absolutely smooth - big difference.
As a side note: even if the dock doesn't harm the tab, it is a royal pain to have to keep smoothing giant bubles in the screen protector over and over.
I posted this primarily so that we can make an informed decision, if you think its safe, use the dock - if you're paranoid like me, the keyboard dock is a safe alternative.
My guess: the dock was designed solely with the Tab in mind. Not with the Tab plus a screen protector. The screen protector may not seem like it adds much at all to the thickness, but when it comes to a precise measurement, it does. So I don't think it will do any damage to a naked Tab, but as you have seen firsthand the screen protector takes the brunt of it.
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My guess: the dock was designed solely with the Tab in mind. Not with the Tab plus a screen protector. The screen protector may not seem like it adds much at all to the thickness, but when it comes to a precise measurement, it does. So I don't think it will do any damage to a naked Tab, but as you have seen firsthand the screen protector takes the brunt of it.
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Good point, you're probably right. But I wonder why the ridges are necessary at all, as they aren't pressent in the keyboard dock.
And my trust level for Samsung accessories isn't all that high. There was a windows tablet a while back called the Q1 Ultra designed by Samsung. Samsung designed a case for it that had a plastic bracket in it made to hold a keyboard. After a month of use, I was amazed to find long sharp groves dug deep into my screen protector, from the keyboar bracket. There was no gorilla glass back then, and if it had not been for the screen protector my Q1 ultra would have been a real mess.
Wouldn't sanding down those "pins" fix the issue if you use screen protectors? Take like 1/16th of an inch off and it won't push as hard on it? Or maybe sand them off completely and put maybe felt in there?
I didnt think it had gorilla glass? And yes those plastic edges that hold in the tab damaged my screen without a protector on. cry. first day i had it
Get the dock hot and bend the plastic out. E.g. run it under hot water. oh yeah. like that's gonna work. i used my dock a couple times and didnt notice any issues w/ the tab. but it is a "tight" fit.
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I didnt think it had gorilla glass? And yes those plastic edges that hold in the tab damaged my screen without a protector on. cry. first day i had it
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I highly doubt its gorilla glass. my tab screen has a minor scratch already and I rarely move it around
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I also do not think that it has gorilla glass, i have a scratch as well. I tried not to use it a lot until i receiver my screen armour.
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I see the pins you are talking about. They don't seem to touch the glass, no screen protector on. However, thats not what left marks on my glass\shell. In the far left and right corners there are like plastic half circles (Hard to see) that press against the glass real hard. I will take pictures soon.
According to Corning's website the only Samsung product that has GG is the SGS2. Also the screen on my GT is nothing like what is on my G2X which certainly does have GG.
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I'm curious to know what type of screen proector Digital Man was using with the dock. Can you please post. Thank you. I am unable to take pictures of the half circle plastic tabs in the left and right corners of the dock. I either need a new camera or 4 hands with a light and macro shot.
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Regardless of how thin a screen protector is, I would imagine that because it is an extra layer between the stylus and the screen, it would negatively affect the responsiveness of the stylus.
For people that do use a stylus, have you noticed any changes?
I'd like to protect my screen, but I also don't want to defeat the point of having a unique input method like this.
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I would imagine that because it is an extra layer between the stylus and the screen, it would negatively affect the responsiveness of the stylus.
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And you would be wrong, because it's a wacom stylus.
Unless your screen protector is a quarter inch thick, you'll be fine.
Try this:go into s memo, put a piece of cardboard on top of your note and draw on the cardboard with the s pen. No problem.
I have a freebee protector until I get my case, and I can vouch that this does not affect the stylus in any way.
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Try this:go into s memo, put a piece of cardboard on top of your note and draw on the cardboard with the s pen. No problem.
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My wife is pretty thin, but when I put her between the Note and stylus, I couldn't write anything. It did make my wife giggle quite a bit, though.
I will attest that with a dirty screen protector, aka a full day without a good micro fiber wipe, my screen sensitivity is reduced in CERTAIN typing scenarios. Holding the device horizontal or vertical is fine. When my phone is resting on a flat surface and I'm standing over it...for some reason sensitivity is greatly reduced. Dirty screen mind you. I clean it and its better. I'm thinking of using the SGS2 touch booster app.
As the people in the previous posts said, the screen protector doesn't interfere with the s-pen at all, as far as the extra thickness could matter.
What you should take into consideration is the material the screen protector is made of. I use an IPG screen protector (similar to Zagg), and it has a slight "rubbery" feel, since the protector is a bit soft (compared to the screen itself - for example, I can leave a marking on the protector with my fingernail, although it goes away after a minute), so the pen kind of "sinks" a little in the protector, giving more resistance than without a protector. It doesn't really matter to me, since you get used to it, but you might want to consider this aspect.
I imagine that plastic protectors and others which aren't as soft will not have this.
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And you would be wrong, because it's a wacom stylus.
Unless your screen protector is a quarter inch thick, you'll be fine.
Try this:go into s memo, put a piece of cardboard on top of your note and draw on the cardboard with the s pen. No problem.
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Its not that the stylus doesnt work ..its that is Drags on the protector making use very difficult if not impossible.
garyd9 said:
My wife is pretty thin, but when I put her between the Note and stylus, I couldn't write anything. It did make my wife giggle quite a bit, though.
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Maroon Mushroom said:
Regardless of how thin a screen protector is, I would imagine that because it is an extra layer between the stylus and the screen, it would negatively affect the responsiveness of the stylus.
For people that do use a stylus, have you noticed any changes?
I'd like to protect my screen, but I also don't want to defeat the point of having a unique input method like this.
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Do You know how spen works?
If not, google for it.
So the answer is NO, the screen sensitivity won't change.
But......it will get scratched (this will look badly) and it will be harder to move around with the stylus due to bigger resistance (maybe not with an original screen protector-mine was universal).
So... screen protectors... are they actually any use?
Do they protect from scratches? Or do they just make your device harder to use because the screen loses sensitivity?
I'd be interested in people's opinions
I recommend using screen protectors because
- they prevent the glass from getting scratches. Sand scratches glass easily. Screen protector helps.
- they can reduce glare from screen. Glare is the reflection you see on the screen that makes it much harder to see what's on screen.
- they can be cleaned with lesser care... any slight wet cloth can clean screen
- they don't cause any loss of sensitivity
- you can start using the plastic nib for the spen as it lasts much longer than rubber nibs. And having a screen protector gives a much better experience with plastic tips for spen.
- they are damn cheap. Don't like them... no problem.. throw them
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I went all out & picked up an Invisishield at BB. Yes, it was about $30.00 (-minus 20% for Rewards club event) but is was worth it in my mind & I will be doind the same with my Nexus 10. I really like the frogz type protectors, but the Invishield is really starting to grow on me as they are nearly impossible to damage. I have had it gouged to hell & in a warm environment after a few hours it always "heals itself". It is a bit tacky feeling (tacky sticky, not tacky cheap), so it is a bit hard or weird to get used to at first, but then you learn to touch lightly & all is well. Like stated above, the plastic S-Pen tip is MUCH better for use with screen savers, especially this type, but the device works just as well with the S-Pen without any loss of sensitivity.
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I recommend using screen protectors because
- they prevent the glass from getting scratches. Sand scratches glass easily. Screen protector helps.
- they can reduce glare from screen. Glare is the reflection you see on the screen that makes it much harder to see what's on screen.
- they can be cleaned with lesser care... any slight wet cloth can clean screen
- they don't cause any loss of sensitivity
- you can start using the plastic nib for the spen as it lasts much longer than rubber nibs. And having a screen protector gives a much better experience with plastic tips for spen.
- they are damn cheap. Don't like them... no problem.. throw them
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I don't use a screen protector and frankly I don't see the need to.
The only advantage I see is the reduction in glare and even that depends on which screen protector you bought.
They DO cause a reduction in sensitivity, I have used a couple before on other devices (like my Note Phablet) and have thrown them all away.
A microfiber cloth cleans easily, and I use the plastic nib SPen HEAVILY and there are no scratches.
If you are paranoid though, then by all means. There are pretty cheap ones available
I always install a screen protector because it cuts down on finger prints. Last 3 have been Ghost Armour. They don't drag on your finger/S-Pen like the invisible shield or feel spongy. Also, clear like glass. And lifetime warranty.
All my gadgets have screen protectors. Better safe than sorry. Have protector on my note as well and no difference on using stylus at all. Smooth and write the same as without screen protector. I have anti glare kind and so easy to take care of finger prints as well. Overall I would highly recommend to get one.
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There is a thread somewhere in here where the s pen is scratching the screen.
That made me buy one.
I always, always use screen protectors. Better sure than sorry right?
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So... screen protectors... are they actually any use?
Do they protect from scratches? Or do they just make your device harder to use because the screen loses sensitivity?
I'd be interested in people's opinions
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So... Stupid questions... Are they actually any use?
There are about 1.000 similar questions in all mobile threads. So what do you think? Will a protective transparent cover protect your screen? What do you think? Please make an quess.
Sorry my friend for my reply but I tried to stop myself without any success.
Thank you for the intelligent replies to this thread.
It's good to see that lots of you find that they don't cause problems in using them; the last time I bought one I found that it did cause a loss of accuracy on the device I was using - but that was a few years ago and I am sure that the technology will have moved on.
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Hi, I am getting a note 10.1 and want a carbon fibre blue ghost armour for it, would it affect the accuracy or will it scrape of what , thanks in advance!!!
The anti glare ones really degrade the screen vibrancy.
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I recently applied the MinGuard Anti-Glare screen protector and my default stylus is acting strange. Don't know if it's the protector or the stylus. After installing the protector, I immediately changed to the white nib which glides better than the one.
But when clicking on buttons(not swiping) using the stylus, the tablet does not react sometimes. Takes several tries to successfully click on a button. It doesn't matter how hard I press, the angle in which I press, or how long I press. Now, when I use my finger to click on a button, it works as it should.
For instance, when I bring up the Task Manager and click with the stylus between Ram Manager and Active Appllications" the tablet does not react many times. Or even if I try to click the "X" to close the Task Manager, it takes many times to close. Or if I click the buttons in Snote to change my pen tip, it takes many times to bring it up. This issue doesn't occur all buttons.... I can click on the system buttons in the lower left no problem or app buttons.
Do you guys think the screen protector is the culprit? Or bad stylus? Thanks so much.
I THINK I found the issue. It was the magnets in my book cover. When I position the flap(which contains the magnets) out of the way, it works much better...but not perfect. so I think the protector takes away from stylus sensitivity a bit. Magnets effecting the stylus was discussed in this thread: S-Pen Inaccurate
I recieved this one yesterday that I got from Amazon:
amFilm (TM) Premium Screen Protector Film Clear (Invisible) for Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (10.1-Inch) and Galaxy Note 10.1 (2-Pack) [in AM retail packing]
It took me both supplied protectors to really apply what I consider almost perfect. I believe there are like 2-3 really small dust particles near the camera but I didn't want to risk ruining my 2nd attempt. I applied it last night. No issues at all with my pen or screen. Mine has the white tip on. I decided on this particular product because it's clear and had great reviews. Glad I chose this one and better safe than sorry for my screen, but to each their own.
i tried to put on a screen protector but then my s-pen didn't flow well !!!
which kind of screen protector do you recommend ?
thanks
cama-cama said:
i tried to put on a screen protector but then my s-pen didn't flow well !!!
which kind of screen protector do you recommend ?
thanks
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cama-cama said:
i tried to put on a screen protector but then my s-pen didn't flow well !!!
which kind of screen protector do you recommend ?
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Hi cama-cama. Read my post above yours. I pasted the one I ordered off Amazon. It was easy to apply. I have had NO issues with my pen. I wrote this reply with my pen.
There really is no point in using a screen protector for this tablet. Just get a flip case, don't be stupid with your tablet, and bam, no scratches, ever.
l33t p1mp said:
Sand scratches our screens very easily. Sand is everywhere, and can collect anywhere. It's basically just quartz, and when it sticks to something and rubs the screen, it ruins it.
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You can be guaranteed to see micro scratches after a couple months without a screen protector. Your choice.
Hey all. I was just wondering if anyone else was noticing that the screen protector on this case doesn't touch the screen flush like it should.
Top to bottom I have a gap that not only lets dust just waltz right in, but makes me have to actually press on the screen for touches most of the time, or repeat an action because I didn't press the screen protector to contact the screen.
I've had 2 replacements sent, and they all have the same problem. My 3VO case never had that issue.
I'm thinking that the Commuter would have the same issue, considering they're almost identical designs.
Have any of you with these cases noticed this?
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Hey all. I was just wondering if anyone else was noticing that the screen protector on this case doesn't touch the screen flush like it should.
Top to bottom I have a gap that not only lets dust just waltz right in, but makes me have to actually press on the screen for touches most of the time, or repeat an action because I didn't press the screen protector to contact the screen.
I've had 2 replacements sent, and they all have the same problem. My 3VO case never had that issue.
I'm thinking that the Commuter would have the same issue, considering they're almost identical designs.
Have any of you with these cases noticed this?
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First, what's a '3VO'?
Second, I would have to say any case with a built in plastic screen protector like that will have that same issue. No, the Commuter does not have that problem because the screen protector sticks onto the screen itself instead of being attached to the case.
3VO = Evo 3D
Anyway, like I mentioned, my Defender case didn't have that issue at all on my Evo 3D. The screen protector was attached to the case and was tight against the screen.
You'd think that any case with a built in screen protector would have them tight against the screen. It's such a hassle having to open it all the time just to get dust out from under it. Allowing anything between itself and the screen kind of defeats the protectors purpose, doesn't it? If something just slips under there and scratches the screen, then it's purpose is moot, and shouldn't even be there.
I'm just mentioning it because I've seen several different phones with the Defender installed, and every one of those had the screen protector fitting tight on the screen with no openings.
If you see how the screen protector is designed, and how that front of the case is designed to compress slightly when clipped properly into the back of the case, that compression pushes the sides of that screen protector inward from the sides, creating the openings. A simple resolution to that would be to trim the screen protector plastic by mere millimeters on either side to allow it to fit properly onto the screen surface.
I was just wondering if anyone else with the Defender case noticed this as well. I figure they will, because 3 cases for me have that issue.
Defender cases are really just good for drop protection. They always let dust in through speaker and Mic cutouts.
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I buy defender cases for all the phones I get (I drop my phones alot... clumsy) and the first thing I do is remove their screen protector just use a one that goes on the phone
Same issue
I've had Otterbox Defenders for every phone I've owned dating back to the original iPhone. This is the first time I've removed the integrated screen protector.
The cutout at the bottom of the screen protector that uncovers the bottom speaker grille and the buttons causes a severe gap to form between the glass and the screen protector. It's a design flaw of this particular model of Otterbox unfortunately. Short of adding a bar that runs across the case at the bottom of the screen I'm not sure of a way to correct it either. Given the tight fit of the case and the plastic used it's always going to bubble like that.
Take the screen protector out and replace it with a good quality one and you'll never know the difference. I'm actually running mine with a naked screen right now but I'm thinking about getting one of the glass covers since they'll fit inside the Otterbox.
The only real reason I get Defenders is for drop protection and the holster anyway so it wasn't a big deal.
Belkiolle said:
I've had Otterbox Defenders for every phone I've owned dating back to the original iPhone. This is the first time I've removed the integrated screen protector.
The cutout at the bottom of the screen protector that uncovers the bottom speaker grille and the buttons causes a severe gap to form between the glass and the screen protector. It's a design flaw of this particular model of Otterbox unfortunately. Short of adding a bar that runs across the case at the bottom of the screen I'm not sure of a way to correct it either. Given the tight fit of the case and the plastic used it's always going to bubble like that.
Take the screen protector out and replace it with a good quality one and you'll never know the difference. I'm actually running mine with a naked screen right now but I'm thinking about getting one of the glass covers since they'll fit inside the Otterbox.
The only real reason I get Defenders is for drop protection and the holster anyway so it wasn't a big deal.
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Yet another "same here". I put a Zagg on my screen and I use my Otterbox for drop protection and protecting the ports (headphone and micro USB) from dust/ dirt. On that basis, it works very well for me.
Mine was the same way. It bothered the crap out of me so I popped that thing out and ordered a mime ghost screen protector. Should be here soon.
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Mine was the same way. It bothered the crap out of me so I popped that thing out and ordered a mime ghost screen protector. Should be here soon.
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When it comes in let us know about the fit please.
Otterbox seems to be just crap now.
The gap is totally unacceptable, the lock tab has to be forced down on mine to properly secure, otherwise is falls out. Also, the rubber loses shape quickly, be mindful of that when you are taking it apart all the time to clean it.
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Otterbox seems to be just crap now.
The gap is totally unacceptable, the lock tab has to be forced down on mine to properly secure, otherwise is falls out. Also, the rubber loses shape quickly, be mindful of that when you are taking it apart all the time to clean it.
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I eventually stopped using mine in favor of a simple TPU case and a nice leather belt pouch. But if I really needed the protection I may have continued with it.
I removed the useless built in plastic protector; due to the dust collecting under the plastic, I had to have a normal screen protector on there anyway.
The last time I removed the Defender one of the plastic tabs securing the top to bottom plastic broke. It is very difficult to remove the top from the bottom. No big deal, I'm not going to use it. I so very much prefer the convenience of the pouch.
I never had any problems with the rubber part, but I only removed it a couple of times.
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Otterbox seems to be just crap now.
The gap is totally unacceptable, the lock tab has to be forced down on mine to properly secure, otherwise is falls out. Also, the rubber loses shape quickly, be mindful of that when you are taking it apart all the time to clean it.
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I had the same problem with the gap in the screen protector. I just put a cheap screen protector on the phone itself, and that made it so that the Defender screen protector no longer had the gap. Prior to adding the extra screen protector, it was difficult to get the phone to register my touches all the time. Now, it works perfectly.
I can also see your point about the rubber. It was one of my first complaints when I got the case. The Defender on my Evo3D had a great feeling rubber. Soft and flexible. I think the new rubber is far too hard, and I can see it deforming pretty easily if you take the phone out of the case very often. I personally don't tend to take it out of the case, especially since we have no removable battery or MicroSD. I don't have a need usually to take it out of the case. The only positive I will give the new rubber they are using over my Evo3D Defender, is that this case is nowhere near the lint magnet.
Also, I am not terribly thrilled about the gigantic cutout of the screen protector so it doesn't cover the capacitive buttons at the bottom. No idea what the thinking there was, unless they did it specifically because of the problems with the buttons prior to the last update. On the other hand, having a big opening like that in the screen protector, makes it easy for me to find the Home and Back buttons in the dark. For some reason, my capacitive buttons only seem to really light up when it is pitch black out, so there are a lot of times where I just can not see them. Easy to find them by touch with this case.
I'm a bit disappointed in the plugs for the ports as well. Over time, I'm sure they will pop in and out easier, but that isn't such a good thing. Because the rubber is so hard, I can see them getting to the point where they just won't stay in at all. Also, the one over the microUSB port is the most annoying to me. Because of the design and the hardness of the rubber, it is actually kind of a pain to pop the cable in there.
I have been a huge fan of Otterbox over the years, especially when it comes to their customer service. They are far and away the best I have ever dealt with, but I think this case was a misstep. I haven't tried any of their other Defender cases for other phones from this generation, so I can't tell if this is something they are doing across all phones, or if the One just got the short end of the stick.
Same here. I love the punk color scheme, but like stated, the built in screen protector is heavily flawed. I switched to the UAG and so far(1 week) all is good. I think I will take out the otterbox screen and use it periodically. I do like the older rubber style better, like I have for my old HTC inspire 4g, it grips better in your hand.
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Anyones rubber starting to sag from the shell on the corners and by the usb port? Its pretty bad on my usb port.
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Agreed 100%. OtterBox is S#!T. Only reason i got one was i needed some sort of protection till my Seidio case came in. Got it today so guess where the Ottrbox is.
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Anyones rubber starting to sag from the shell on the corners and by the usb port? Its pretty bad on my usb port.
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Mine is sagging on both top corners. I got a replacement coming.
What, in your opinions, would be the best glass screen protector to replace this crappy plastic one with? Compatible with the Defender, of course.
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Hey guys, I'm having trouble finding any brand left that sell tempered glass for this phone.
The only one I found is XGear, base on the image I am certain that the designed is by having the adhesive stickers on the bezel/edges only, while the viewable area isn't adhesive. I have used tempered glass of similar design before and it is terrible. Since the adhesive stickers are thin on the edges, its not very durable and can leave gaps or pop out (especially since this is a curved screen), and let water in. It will also cause "rainbow effects" due to the gap between the two glasses. There are Amazon reviews that reflected my concern.
I'm looking for something like this which have the entire surface being clear and able to stick.
Doesn't seem like there are any available, but I wouldn't mind using tempered glass for another phone model that could fit on the Nexus screen, I think that's the best way to go. But I won't receive my Nexus in a few days, then I can see if the screen protector of the Moto X fit inside the Galaxy Nexus screen.
Bought a Nillkin Tempered GLass for my Note 3. Guess what.....after a month, the screen cracked by itself! I'm very sure it was not caused by wrong handling nor impact. All this 9H hype by Nillkin is just bull! Choose another brand!
Well I just decided to order a second i-Blason for the Moto X and put it on the Nexus. Kind of awkward, but it work. Couldn't fully stick because of the curved glass though, but the adhesive is durable enough so I'm not worried.
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Well I just decided to order a second i-Blason for the Moto X and put it on the Nexus. Kind of awkward, but it work. Couldn't fully stick because of the curved glass though, but the adhesive is durable enough so I'm not worried.
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Was gonna buy the xgear thanks for the insight!
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funny how purchases get based on "user" reviews. i read all 12, and the bad reviews remind of typical users that don't read directions, don't follow directions and then think if they pitch a fit with the manf and bad mouth the product they'll be redeemed of their stupidity.
dust under the screen or lifts at the curve?
1. poor cleaning prior to affixing
2. repeated removing and reapplying and failing 1.
it cracks? really? it's glass, treat it as such and pay attention to 1 & 2 above.
install tip: align and start from one end. it's not a bumper sticker, do not apply it as such.
dots and rainbow? if turned off and angled just right you can see it. turn it on and they're gone. the rainbow kind of reminded of how some windshields look while wearing polarized sunglasses.
i mostly lurk these forums but couldn't let this go. i've had my xgear tempered glass protector on for 2yrs without issue. i will buy more from them if available and my device doesn't have gorilla glass.
well worth the $30+ i spent at the time, has saved my phone too many times to count.
I'm also looking for a tempered glass that is different from Xgear...
I just installed an xGear Fantom (and just replaced my broken screen), I don't see any rainbow effect. I did notice that the protector at the sides sat flat against the screen, but were it curved it bowed out in the center. Looked clear, but definitely was not flush against the glass. I put a thick sock on the screen and some weight over top of it (a thick heavy hard cover book and a medium sized socket set), and that eliminated the bow and put a massive rainbow bubble into the middle of the screen. I lifted the top right corner of the protector slightly and the bubble moved straight out on it's on. It now sits 100% flat. I don't notice any loss of touch sensibility. As far as I can tell, this is going to work well, and last a loooong time.
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xGear Fantom is expensive to me and it has bad critics. I'm trying to find another alternative although it is to another model of mobile with the similar screen's sizes 135.5 x 67.94 mm and the holes fit well. The Moto X's screen seem too small.
I think only xGear makes a tempered glass protector for the G'nex. Might be able to use one for another model, but I don't think it would work any better and you would have a higher chance of running into poor fitment.
But I do understand what your saying - some G'nex have a sensitivity bug that the xGear exaggerates (I'm lucky I don't), while some people have had problems with the glue giving out as well as sensitivity issues not related to the bug.
I'd think you could run into those issues with any brand of glass screen protectors, and further might run into other issues with fitment if the protector is for a different phone.
I can't say if I'll have adhesion issues (and so far nope - but only been barely a week or so since installing it), though I think I would have both if I had not noticed and taken care to eliminate the slight bulge out where the glass curved.
Mine did lay flat at the sides along the protectors boarder, and while it was clear for viewing the screen (as in it didn't look like I had air trapped under the protector), it was clearly bulged out (due to an air pocket) a few mm in the center of the screen where it naturally curves when viewed from the side - I was able to correct that with the weight and slight lifting of a corner.
Sadly, you may want to run your naked (no protector) or with a PET film protector.
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BTW - I only paid something like $11 (Canadian) for my Fantom, and that includes shipping. I don't think it was a huge expense at all.
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I think it's not necessary to use any kind of screen protection.
I have my GNex more than 2 years without using screen protector and it doesn't have any scratches
I bought a tempered glass protector ( Moto X) to my Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Unfortunately I did not find any that fit perfectly but it work rigth to me.... it was very cheap in aliexpress, only 1,60€ :good:
So here is my question. I’m looking at the invisible sheild glass screen protector but am wondering, what will happen with the protector when I squeeze my pixel for assistant? Will I lift or crack? What do you guys think?
I seriously doubt they will be sending the glass screen. Should be fine.
What do you mean sending the glass screen? I’m buying a glass screen protector. The pixel 2XL is Poled made of plastic so you can squeeze. So I’m wondering about the glass protector
Have you checked the Accessories thread here
That doesn’t answer my question. Hence why I asked it. That’s basically just listing what accessories are available
That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Maybe a good place to ask...
dberthia said:
That's actually a good question- I hadn't really thought about it. Hopefully there won't be any issue with the screen protectors. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Exactly! That’s my point! I don’t want to spend 50+ dollars then that crap pops off
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Huh?
You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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jimistixx said:
You are squeezing the sides of the phone and not actually compacting the screen, so there should be no issue.
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Understood but is that not why google went POLED so as not to have glass to deal with the pressure
Zagg is saying we should be fine and the warranty for return is 30 days from website kiosks depends on them
Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?
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Yet Google made the screen of plastic not glass?
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the only way to really know is to wait for someone to test it
BUT
this is the first time i heard that screen is plastic
what i know that it is gorilla glass 5 from their website and from other websites
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_2_xl-8720.php
(DISPLAY Type P-OLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 6.0 inches, 92.6 cm2 (~76.4% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution 1440 x 2880 pixels, 18:9 ratio (~538 ppi density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 5
- Always-on display
- 100% DCI-P3 coverage)
It’s POLED the P = plastic
http://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/amp/
i know that the inside where made of plastic
but the touchscreen in the outside are made of glass (the digitizer)
so glass on top of a plastic (they get thinner panel this way )
OH right the HTC U11 have lcd glass screen in the first place
maybe you can ask in there form if anyone have a problem in the squeeze with glass and screen protector
Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).
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Someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you actually squeeze the body of the phone, meaning, the sides don't actually compress. What you're doing by squeezing the phone is really squeezing your fingertips (and the base of your palm area), so that your skin makes contact with more of the extreme edges of the screen. It's very slight, but enough to activate the sensitive touch areas there. When the phone sees a whole bunch of "touch" along the sides of the screen, it sees that as a squeeze. So, you don't have to worry about a case cracking under the pressure. However, if this really is how it works, then any case with screen-overlap may interfere with activation of squeeze command. Ditto with screen protectors.
As for the P in P-OLED. That refers to the substrate, which is the base to which all of the electronic bits are connected. Plastic allows this substrate to be thinner and more flexible. The outer surface may be, and often is, still made of glass (in this case, Gorilla Glass 5). P-OLED isn't typically used to make the body of the phone more damage resistant (although it certainly can be). It's used to make the screen a tiny bit lighter and thinner, allowing more room for other internal pieces (such as a slightly larger battery).
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Sorry I have to correct you here. The squeeze gesture is picked up by 2 rows of sensors inside the edges of the frame. It has nothing to do with the screen.
Jerryrigeverything did a teardown on the HTC u11 which uses the same tech. So, that section of the frame edge is actually mobile to a degree. It also compromised rigidity and failed his bend test.
Why do you need a screen protector? I have not made a scratch a phone screen since prior to my nexus 4. The screen are pretty much scratch proof unless you use sand paper to do it.