[Q] 2.42.415.1 not rooted yet ..!! - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I follow the instructions in this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233 from CuBz90
But still not working in Desire HD with builed number 2.42.415.1
I try many times but I unfortunately failed..
Please help..

it wont work with 2.42...........
downgrading 2.42 is not yet found.........
we must hav to wait........

Thanks man i just wanted to know if it will work on my 2.42.... .

Hello,
I think it should works. This is using the Goldcard method. The goldcard is a general method which should not be dependent on the phone version !
With goldcard you can install other OFFICIAL stock roms.
In the field of Android custom ROMs, what a Gold Card does is letting you install ROMs on your Android device that aren’t intended for your carrier. For example, if you have a T-Mobile USA HTC Desire, you can install an official ROM intended for the O2 UK HTC Desire, or even a generic ROM that isn’t locked to a carrier. It does so by disabling the CID (Carrier ID) check that the device does when installing a ROM.
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smartgig said:
Hello,
I think it should works. This is using the Goldcard method. The goldcard is a general method which should not be dependent on the phone version !
With goldcard you can install other OFFICIAL stock roms.
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i think its about the software version,couldn't go back without temp root,and as long as we couldnt found a 2.42.415.1 or later rom with root bug like 2.37 softbank rom ,we couldn't reach any where

evanbigfan said:
i think its about the software version,couldn't go back without temp root,and as long as we couldnt found a 2.42.415.1 or later rom with root bug like 2.37 softbank rom ,we couldn't reach any where
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Using the goldcard doesn't need any root permissions. It is a htc way to use other official stock roms. First you try to downgrade to official stock rom 1.32.405.6 then try to root this version.

smartgig said:
Using the goldcard doesn't need any root permissions. It is a htc way to use other official stock roms. First you try to downgrade to official stock rom 1.32.405.6 then try to root this version.
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i tried and a lot of people tried but it didn't work
and if it was that easy ,the whole root guide wouldn't be found at the first place,
,u can install only for upper version not older :S
thanks man ,i wish we could just have an easy one click root,

Yeah, we are all stuck with unrooted 2.42 dhd for now. Sooner or later, somebody will find a way to root 2.42.415.1. We just have to wait.

Idea for dhd V. 2.42
HELLO ALL MISERABLE PERSONS LIKE ME, CARRYING DHD ANDROID V 2.42 AND ABOVE.
I HAVE UN IDEA WHICH IS THAT WE CAN PAY MONEY TO ANY ONE WILL HELP US ROOT THE PHONE AND USE A METHOD FOR DOWNGRADED .
ACTUALLY IF I COME TO KNOW BEFORE PURCHASING DHD THAT I CAN NOT ROOT IT , I WILL NEVER PURCHASE IT .
I NEED YOUR SUPPORT ,
LEE

we cant say........we cant root DHD....we can....but must wait.........thats only the thing we should do.......

anybody know.....will this thing work ??????
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0

i know that this will not work on 2.42...... ok.
for any other metod just check the release date of it.if it's before 6 jul defenitly will not work on 2.42....
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rohithksaj said:
anybody know.....will this thing work ??????
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Do you have the 2.42 to try? I will try it tonight after I get back from work!!

frank21cn said:
Do you have the 2.42 to try? I will try it tonight after I get back from work!!
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i tried it before,beleive me it wont work,i was thinkink to upgrade to 2.50 ,but am afraid of tow things : 1 - arabic support
2 - someone will figure a root for 2.42 and then i i cant go down to it :S

but its given 2.36+..........that can be 2.42 na ?????
i think its a common method after GB update..........whatever the version is.....
I dont know whether this work .........

rohithksaj said:
but its given 2.36+..........that can be 2.42 na ?????
i think its a common method after GB update..........whatever the version is.....
I dont know whether this work .........
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it could be ,but it wont work ,i also contacted jsl about it ,and he kept telling me u just need to let it go to sleep and then wake it up u will find an error which i couldn't get
but somehow i feel we are going root soon with 2.42.415.1 maybe this week,
but what do u think about going to the latest 2.50 ?

no way...am not going to update......the we have to wait again for downgrading 2.50.............
I will downgrade my 2.42 wen it comes.......
It will be great if we downgrade this week itself..........
I have lost almost 1 month for rooting my fone.....
now no way......

thanks all for reply ..
The waiting answer is not enough for me and the others , unless some one tell us if they works on it to figure out how to solve the root issue
thanks to all members in this forum specially the supportive peoples who give us that hope.
Am Still waiting since along time.. for a hope

i agree with you ,knowing someone is working on it is good and hopefull.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

That guide in driphter is a modified copy of the guides in xda, it won't work.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

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Possible root for official 2.1... (Confirmed not Working)

EDIT: It doesn't work, let's move on.
Just saw this now, apparently it works for all HTC 2.1 devices using the 'fake ota' method.
I will rewrite the guide here once someone has confirmed it works.
I can not and will not test this as I wasn't stupid enough to flash the official 2.1 RUU.
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=13939#post13939
Once you get to clockwork mod recovery you should be able to flash a custom rom!
Thanks to Eugene373 for this
42turkeys said:
Just saw this now, apparently it works for all HTC 2.1 devices using the 'fake ota' method.
I will rewrite the guide here once someone has confirmed it works.
I can not and will not test this as I wasn't stupid enough to flash the official 2.1 RUU.
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=13939#post13939
Once you get to clockwork mod recovery you should be able to flash a custom rom!
Thanks to Eugene373 for this
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Reports on the guide website suggest that this will NOT work for HTC Hero users or in fact any phone which did not originally ship with v2.1 of Android.
I'd love someone to prove this wrong so keep trying but don't get your hopes up.
another explaination - not tested
here is another explaination to root cdma hera - don't know if it works or not, don't know if it's the same for gsm hero
http://www.gadgetsdna.com/how-to-root-htc-hero-cdma-stock-android-2-1/3628/
jergud said:
here is another explaination to root cdma hera - don't know if it works or not, don't know if it's the same for gsm hero
http://www.gadgetsdna.com/how-to-root-htc-hero-cdma-stock-android-2-1/3628/
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don't work, I've tested it.
42turkeys said:
Just saw this now, apparently it works for all HTC 2.1 devices using the 'fake ota' method.
I will rewrite the guide here once someone has confirmed it works.
I can not and will not test this as I wasn't stupid enough to flash the official 2.1 RUU.
http://forum.androidspin.com/showthread.php?p=13939#post13939
Once you get to clockwork mod recovery you should be able to flash a custom rom!
Thanks to Eugene373 for this
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I am stupid enough, falsh Chunghwa official 2.1 RUU,test above,don't work.no hope......
found another one - cdma again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
don't know if it works with gsm hero
zmgbyn said:
I am stupid enough, falsh Chunghwa official 2.1 RUU,test above,don't work.no hope......
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me too...flashed Chunghwa..:| cannot go back no more...
qqragoon said:
me too...flashed Chunghwa..:| cannot go back no more...
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did you try this way too ? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
I just wan't to make it more clear to my self. If I understood you ppl right, there is no possible way to root official GSM 2.1? Or am I wrong?
And does anyone know, how fast we will get rooted GMS EU 2.1 after it is released? Fast thing to do?
Also first part of OTA (YouTube update), i hope it didn't take ability to root from me?
shadow_fi said:
I just wan't to make it more clear to my self. If I understood you ppl right, there is no possible way to root official GSM 2.1? Or am I wrong?
And does anyone know, how fast we will get rooted GMS EU 2.1 after it is released? Fast thing to do?
Also first part of OTA (YouTube update), i hope it didn't take ability to root from me?
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There is no known way, yet.
There are already rooted GSM custom rom's based upon the 2.1 releases which have happened so far. It takes dev's a few hours from release usually to get them into the public domain.
shadow_fi said:
I just wan't to make it more clear to my self. If I understood you ppl right, there is no possible way to root official GSM 2.1? Or am I wrong?
And does anyone know, how fast we will get rooted GMS EU 2.1 after it is released? Fast thing to do?
Also first part of OTA (YouTube update), i hope it didn't take ability to root from me?
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If you installed the latest ota just downgrade & root.
For rooting the europe 2.1 I aim to be as fast as last time but it depends on when it is released.
jergud said:
did you try this way too ? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572
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I've tested it , can't work!
Some more tests:
Press Home + power then Press VOL UP + Power:
Lost recovery appear,But not use, signature error!
42turkeys said:
If you installed the latest ota just downgrade & root.
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You mean if I installed this "YouTube" OTA update and have 2.73.405.93, i have to downgrade? Even if this is still 1.5?
shadow_fi said:
You mean if I installed this "YouTube" OTA update and have 2.73.405.93, i have to downgrade? Even if this is still 1.5?
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Yeah, just follow mine or btdag's guide and be happy!
42turkeys said:
Yeah, just follow mine or btdag's guide and be happy!
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Well then IMO you have to add to your guide.
"First, you need to downgrade your ROM to 2.73.xxx.x"
Like: "Also downgrade 2.73.405.93, even if it starts with 2.73...".
Btw: If I would flash Part 2 OTA update, 2.1 andoird, would it be as easy as now, to downgrade?
shadow_fi said:
Well then IMO you have to add to your guide.
"First, you need to downgrade your ROM to 2.73.xxx.x"
Like: "Also downgrade 2.73.405.93, even if it starts with 2.73...".
Btw: If I would flash Part 2 OTA update, 2.1 andoird, would it be as easy as now, to downgrade?
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You can't downgrade once you flash part 2 as the version will change from 2.73.xxx.xx
Yeah I do need to change that, I just couldn't remember it when I was writing it!

Offering Money to Fix Phone 2.2

Hello,
I am willing to offer someone 20USD if they can tell me how to fix my HTC desire. I was running on a Asia ROM which was upgraded to a Euro one so i could update. Upon updating to 2.2 I have no wifi, or SD and "process system" keeps crashing
The details of the phone are:
Model A8181
OS: 2.2 (from OTA)
Baseband: 32.36.00.28U_406.00.02_2
Kernel: 2.6.29-0cb9f166
Build is 2.09.405.8
Please Help Me.
You need to flash the newest radio, should fix all your problems.
You're using a radio from eclair (2.1).
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
With the 2.2 ota, im not sure if there is a way to downgrade, as I read one of the devs accidentally upgraded to an OTA release. This is due to the bootloader being updated to one that hasnt been hacked yet.
My 2 cents is hold tight and hope one of the devs figures a way to downgrade, that way you could install a custom 2.2 which doesnt have these issues.
Good luck, sorry i couldnt be of much use :/
EDIT- i completely missed that flakz0r lol, can it still be flashed through recovery if he used a 2.2 OTA update? if so http://android.adamg.co.uk/bravo/radio/32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20.zip
you still have the older 2.6.29 kernel too
flash the radio to the latest and flash one of the 101 roms people are releasing based on the new ota 2.2 as that should update your kernel
AwHughes said:
Hello,
I am willing to offer someone 20USD if they can tell me how to fix my HTC desire. I was running on a Asia ROM which was upgraded to a Euro one so i could update. Upon updating to 2.2 I have no wifi, or SD and "process system" keeps crashing
The details of the phone are:
Model A8181
OS: 2.2 (from OTA)
Baseband: 32.36.00.28U_406.00.02_2
Kernel: 2.6.29-0cb9f166
Build is 2.09.405.8
Please Help Me.
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Did you download the ota update, or have you got root and installed one of roms on this forum? If it's ota I dont see how your radio can be the one you've stated. If it's a rom from the forum flash the new radio 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20.zip
I dont know, but it should be possible. Also, the official OTA update comes with the new radio, so i dont understand how he was able to update the rom but not the radio. That is assuming he isnt rooted, of course.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
I just fixed something like this today. It's a bit of an involved process though. Send me a pm so we can talk via IM.
flakz0r said:
you need to flash the newest radio, should fix all your problems.
you're using a radio from eclair (2.1).
Sent from my htc desire using tapatalk
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+10 .
noble8 said:
Did you download the ota update, or have you got root and installed one of roms on this forum? If it's ota I dont see how your radio can be the one you've stated. If it's a rom from the forum flash the new radio
I flashed one of the stock roms from here to get it to be a euro one instead of asia.
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Yeah, you just need the radio. Put it on your sdcard and flash it like you flashed the rom. Dont touch your phone, let it work, takes a while.
so....who got the 20 dollars?
lol i think it should be falkz0r he was the first to provide a solution...
btw...he managed to go from asian to european version through goldcard and the RUU file. Done that to my previous Hero too.
Darkzen15 said:
so....who got the 20 dollars?
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not me ,I have seen this thread right now
Me
I got him through the entire process using teamviewer and MSN. Still haven't got the $20 though....
And flashing a radio isn't a solution
casca said:
lol i think it should be falkz0r he was the first to provide a solution...
btw...he managed to go from asian to european version through goldcard and the RUU file. Done that to my previous Hero too.
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Wouldn't have worked.
Wasnt expecting to receive anything, XDA is a place to share knowledge and help each other. I expect people to help me too when i'm in trouble.

[DZ RUU]Vision_hTC_Asia_HK_CHT_1.34.708.3(inlc TW_709.3 & India_720.3)

Warning: This should only be used on HTC Desire Z. Using this on G2 could brick your phone.
RUU_Vision_hTC_Asia_HK_CHT_1.34.708.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2_release_154602_signed.exe
(3 lang available in this version, CHT, CHS and ENG)
Only for Desire Z. Not tested on T-Mobile G2, do it at your own risk.
My Hong Kong Desire Z has a stock version of 1.34.708.5, but this is 708.3
so I didn't test on my DZ.
Found on a chinese website.
Extras:
RUU_Vision_hTC_Asia_TW_1.34.709.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2_release_154597_signed.exe
RUU_Vision_hTC_Asia_India_1.34.720.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2_release_154620_signed.exe
Nice work, thanks for sharing
jzhyok said:
Warning: This should only be used on HTC Desire Z. Using this on G2 could brick your phone.
RUU_Vision_hTC_Asia_HK_CHT_1.34.708.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.18_M2_release_154602_signed.exe
(3 lang available in this version, CHT, CHS and ENG)
Only for Desire Z. Not tested on T-Mobile G2, do it at your own risk.
My Hong Kong Desire Z has a stock version of 1.34.708.5, but this is 708.3
so I didn't test on my DZ.
Found on a chinese website.
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awww... we share the same fate....
my Desire Z is also a Hong Kong stock... with 1.34.708.5.. pretty frustrated finding tht our Desire Z can't fall back to stock setting... and unfortunite tht I didn't S-Off with gfree... so no luck there
littleguo said:
awww... we share the same fate....
my Desire Z is also a Hong Kong stock... with 1.34.708.5.. pretty frustrated finding tht our Desire Z can't fall back to stock setting... and unfortunite tht I didn't S-Off with gfree... so no luck there
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You did flash this ROM?
I rooted and gfree S-OFF my original 708.5 and now using Virtuous v0.8.1.
Good battery life with SmartAss at 1.49GHz.
except some wake up issue when receiving a call
jzhyok said:
You did flash this ROM?
I rooted and gfree S-OFF my original 708.5 and now using Virtuous v0.8.1.
Good battery life with SmartAss at 1.49GHz.
except some wake up issue when receiving a call
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nop, didn't flash custom ROMs, my point of rooting and S-off is becuz i wana overclock.. other than that.. my phone is stock... my worry is when htc comes out with GingerBread for DesireZ.. the upgrade would forbid our phone to be rooted forever.. can't image the phone running @ 800MHz...
littleguo said:
nop, didn't flash custom ROMs, my point of rooting and S-off is becuz i wana overclock.. other than that.. my phone is stock... my worry is when htc comes out with GingerBread for DesireZ.. the upgrade would forbid our phone to be rooted forever.. can't image the phone running @ 800MHz...
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I guess devs will release a pre-rooted "official" ROM by that time
just like the current egypt ROM
jzhyok said:
I guess devs will release a pre-rooted "official" ROM by that time
just like the current egypt ROM
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so no luck in finding an official RUU for the HongKong stock then ?
littleguo said:
so no luck in finding an official RUU for the HongKong stock then ?
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I can't find even on the chinese forum.
however I think it's not necessary cuz so many good ROMs out there.
I did tried flash the older HK ROM, feel list almost the same with the one come with the phone
if you know people who have bought new DZ in HK and havn't change anything yet, we can ask for a dump I guess.
jzhyok said:
I can't find even on the chinese forum.
however I think it's not necessary cuz so many good ROMs out there.
I did tried flash the older HK ROM, feel list almost the same with the one come with the phone
if you know people who have bought new DZ in HK and havn't change anything yet, we can ask for a dump I guess.
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wat's a dump?
littleguo said:
wat's a dump?
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make a image file of the whole system so that we can flash it into other devices or modify it
having the origional dump is like having the RUU
jzhyok said:
make a image file of the whole system so that we can flash it into other devices or modify it
having the origional dump is like having the RUU
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how do u make this image file? cuz i might be encounting one brand new stock DZ soon
but will flashing it onto another DZ change the IMEI ?
i checked out a site : http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/308704/how-to-dump-the-rom-image/
but seems difficult to do it..
jzhyok said:
make a image file of the whole system so that we can flash it into other devices or modify it
having the origional dump is like having the RUU
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I don't think it's that simple though. At least, not according to the responses I got when I asked this question recently. Official RUUs and ROMs are digitally signed, for example, and we're not going to be able to do that bit.
steviewevie said:
I don't think it's that simple though. At least, not according to the responses I got when I asked this question recently. Official RUUs and ROMs are digitally signed, for example, and we're not going to be able to do that bit.
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then all i could do is cross my fingers then
I need a stock ROM
Is there any for 1.34.707.5? Singapore DZ..
I forgot to do nandroid backup prior to flash CM ROM. (silly me)
click2me said:
Is there any for 1.34.707.5? Singapore DZ..
I forgot to do nandroid backup prior to flash CM ROM. (silly me)
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if it's not for warranty, I will suggest Virtuous which is based on stock ROM
i have the 1.82 updated stock rom but rooted, can i use this to revert to stock unrooted 1.34 and then update it again to 1.82.
also how come india version is 1.34.720.3 mine was 1.34.720.6 (htc dezire z purchased from india)
edit, though this was new never mind..

[Q] New Root-Tool for 1.72/1.75

Hello Guys
I'm wondering if someone is working on a tool to root 1.72/1.75 stock rom?
Atm it seems its only possible to downgrade and root again, or do I see that falsh.
Best Regards
safari
safarious said:
Hello Guys
I'm wondering if someone is working on a tool to root 1.72/1.75 stock rom?
Atm it seems its only possible to downgrade and root again, or do I see that falsh.
Best Regards
safari
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Not sure if anyone is, the exploit is there in the older ROM and no real benefit's from running the newer stock ROM's so not sure there is a huge call for a new root exploit, especially as if you have S-OFF and Radio S-OFF you can downgrade, root and upgrade to 1.72/1.75 whilst maintaining root so seems like a lot of work for little advantage
Downgrade & root, atm its the only way, and I think will be the only one.
ghostofcain said:
Not sure if anyone is, the exploit is there in the older ROM and no real benefit's from running the newer stock ROM's so not sure there is a huge call for a new root exploit, especially as if you have S-OFF and Radio S-OFF you can downgrade, root and upgrade to 1.72/1.75 whilst maintaining root so seems like a lot of work for little advantage
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Thats true, my problem is I dont have S-OFF but 1.72 because my girlfriend had it in her hands for 5 minutes
Her words: look babe there is update, why i cant i type now... argwh
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
You can downgrade to 1.32:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
1- dwgrade
2- root
3-s-off - radio off. supercid
4-flash a rootable 1.72 from xda
5-NEVER flash via OTA
6-register,subscribe,read,download, XDAapp
7-u will be happy!
I'll be grateful if somebody can provide such a tool, coz i don't want to downgrade REALY!!! PLEASE HELP US, ...
ThE_DeamoN said:
I'll be grateful if somebody can provide such a tool, coz i don't want to downgrade REALY!!! PLEASE HELP US, ...
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Sorry, chum devs have got better things to do than spend weeks looking for a new exploit because some users are too lazy to downgrade. Really it isn't going to happen so bite the bullet and downgrade.

[Q] Rooting 3.13.161.3

Hi guys,
Is there any way to root my DHD with 3.13.161.3 (Sense3)& android 2.3.5?
Since AAHK ain't working (i already tried)
somebody that might know how to do this?
Have you tried the irc link for help?
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
Yes I did, they havent find a way yet, for that..
but maybe someone else did?
how is your rooting?
cihatcık said:
how is your rooting?
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WHAT does that even mean ?
This > http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Ace ( I root with this @ Sense 2.1, not sure will it work with 3.0 ) ?
It doesnt work
nielsnll said:
Hi guys,
Is there any way to root my DHD with 3.13.161.3 (Sense3)& android 2.3.5?
Since AAHK ain't working (i already tried)
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You can try superonklick to gain shell root, and then try to perm root
sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda premium
Any news here? I'm totally frustrated, want to root the DHD but with this version it seems impossible...
Muikkuman said:
You can try superonklick to gain shell root, and then try to perm root
sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda premium
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Can you tell us how? Because this software version seems to have patched the exploit used to gain root.
I tried to do it using zergRush exploit and it did not work.
same here...
Any way to downgrade to sense 2.1?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
I have the same issue. I could not find any ROM that really made me want to root my DHD until the ICS, but I just accepted the OTA for 2.3.5 few weeks ago.
Did anybody try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
In the thread, kodaboy said:
"Works on HTC DESIRE HD 2.3.5 - OTA UPDATE3.12.405.1 THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Got the same problem over here. I had an unbranded phone but my 3.5mm jack was corrupted (i guess just dirty or some wear on the pins) so they replaced my entire motherboard.
Guess what, they installed this vodafone-branded ROM and now im stuck with this stupid device only for a corrupted jack slot.
3.13.161.3? i dont know this base which country?
Vodafone has put it on my DHD this afternoon after a repair. Its a dutch store but maybe its vodafone-widely spreaded and then i guess its in germany too. I dont know other countries they use this ROM.
But im gonna hope the guys there will put an unbranded ROM on it. Or else it won't be a happy year for them.
Htc supertool worked for me!
I'm on 3.12.405.1 (also Sense3) .. but my phone was already Ship S-off first (from trying CM7 back in june).
Now it's time for ARHD or RCMix3d - yiiiipeeedeee!
doesn't work with 3.13.161.3, has anybody some more ideas?

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