[Q] Rooting: Just Rooted Stock ROMs Available? - Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I wonder whether I can find a stock ROM (Wildfire with Android 2.2 with HTC Sense) with just root permissions (-rw), without any modifications (added/updated/removed) features (all is original from stock like HTC boot animation and sound, dailer,...etc) and not cooked builds.
Is it simply to add root permissions to unpacked stock RUU and pack it again?
For any S-OFF device with stock ROM, does it mean it's already rooted?
I used AlphaRev X to set my Wildfire to S-OFF and got HBOOT 6.01.1022, is the original stock ROM installed after S-OFF already rooted in that case?
Thanks for support

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
Point 5, Safe Flash RUU ZIP Files. The first 3 entries have two editions each - Rooted and Non Rooted.
BTW, Root != S-OFF. S-OFF is the Secuflag being turned off, thus, leaving your system "open". Root is the presence of the Superuser binary on your phone. A phone is not "rooted", contrary to the popularity of the term, but, it is the ROM that is rooted. If you have only got S-OFF using AlphaRev X, then you will have to install the Superuser Binary yourself, for your ROM to be rooted. Simply S-OFFing will not give you root.

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3xeno said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
Point 5, Safe Flash RUU ZIP Files. The first 3 entries have two editions each - Rooted and Non Rooted.
BTW, Root != S-OFF. S-OFF is the Secuflag being turned off, thus, leaving your system "open". Root is the presence of the Superuser binary on your phone. A phone is not "rooted", contrary to the popularity of the term, but, it is the ROM that is rooted. If you have only got S-OFF using AlphaRev X, then you will have to install the Superuser Binary yourself, for your ROM to be rooted. Simply S-OFFing will not give you root.
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For the rooted Safe Flash RUU ZIP Files, is there any modifications over these roms or it's typically identical to original stock ROMs with just superuser binaries?
Is it simple to inject superuser binaries for pre-installed stock ROM with S-OFF over AlphaRevX HBOOT?

No, they are the stock ROM's, with no modifications, but, they need Clockworkmod Recovery to install. If you would rather have the Stock Recovery, then, flash your Arabic RUU, then download SuperOneClick, and it will root your official ROM, with exactly the features you are looking for.
Superoneclick can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682

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[Q] To root or not to root

Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.
Unrevoked will root the phone along with installing custom recovery by a nand exploit.
But alpharevx neither roots the phone nor installs custom recovery. It turns off the nand security to make rooting (+ installing custom recovery) easier. So if you made s-off with alpharevx, then you need to root and install custom recovery on your own (which are very easy)..
And you dont need to downgrade with an RUU. Just go with this link..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15226717&postcount=68 .
Also check the complete wildfire index thread from dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318 .
Edit: oh.. didn't get you clearly. Looks like you have custom recovery installed. Anyway, you can check the above link for rooting. And to install custom roms, you just need cwm recovery installed. Downgrade from 2.2.1 to 2.1 (using RUU) is not necessary in any case. And to root your stock rom just use superone click root method or gingerbreak.apk or you can also install Su binary (= rooting) from cwm recovery. And you dont need to root a custom Rom because custom roms will be already rooted. Another thing you need to remember is some roms need cwm version 2.x while others need cwm version 3.x or above. You need to shift between recoveries according to that need . On how to do that, check the index thread.
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Flash Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod. There's absolutely no need to use any RUU / Unrevoked if you have got Clockworkmod Installed.
Download SU Binary here:
http://bit.ly/su2361ef
Flash, and check for root again. This will give you a rooted Stock ROM.
Alternatively, if you just want to change ROMs , you dont need to be "rooted". Just a Custom Recovery like Clockworkmod will do. So, if that's your ultimate goal, just flash the new ROM. Again, dont touch RUUs/Unrevoked.
Thank you, both for clearing that up. I must say the sticky post is way way over complicated and dead wrong on the process. Since it's a sticky it needs to get cleaned up by someone who knows about it.
It's not a sticky actually. (I assume you are referring to this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145035)
I posted my views there but everyone seems happy with that, so whatever suits the individual I guess.
I have posted an overview of the process here (This is a sticky thread, so I kinda hope you are not referring to this one ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
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micnolmad said:
Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.
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Hi, I have the same problem as micnolmad.
I'm running wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.01.1002
I used AlphaRev to get S-OFF, and change from HBOOT 1.01.0002.
I thought it was meant to convert HBOOT to 1.01.0001, but for some reason it's now 6.01.1002. Not sure if this is important? At least the phone's now S-OFF, which should enable rooting?
However, booting into HTC sense, rom manager syays I do not have root!
I have clockwork 3.0.0.6 but when I use it to install cyanogen 7.0.3, the installation says successful, and then freezes on start up.
Any ideas?
Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.
Scratch0805 said:
Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.
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Hi, I wiped Data, cache, Dalvik Cache, and have superuser and CWM v4.0.14 installed. On flashing cyanogen mod 7 ROM it installs successfully, but freezes on bootup?
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[Q] Original ROM after root

Hi,
I want to flash original Froyo 2.2.1 with Sense on my wildfire and I can't find it. Where can I download it?
And I don't have nand backup...
I found RUUs but if I understand correctly those are just updates, not ROMs, right?
And I wonder, can I have root "acces" after flashing original ROM? I read somewhere that i can't but post was from 2010 so...
RUU's are complete Stock ROM's by themselves. You will lose Clockworkmod Recovery and Superuser when you flash them. If you want to preserve both, then flash this Safe Flash RUU. (It's the Stock ROM with the Sock Recovery removed, and Superuser added)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877977
Thanks,
It has sense on it, right?
Yes, it's untouched Stock Froyo with Sense. The only difference is that the rooted version has Superuser so you can run root apps, while the unrooted version doesn't.
3xeno said:
Yes, it's untouched Stock Froyo with Sense. The only difference is that the rooted version has Superuser so you can run root apps, while the unrooted version doesn't.
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Great! That's the thing I wanted.

Failed Root Every Time Help!

Howdy!
I just had my phone refurbished and I wanted to root my phone. I can't root though. I've used Unrevoked and even Super One Click and they don't permanent root my desire. What in the world is going on? I can't even access the play store or YouTube anymore. Is there a way of rooting my phone so I can s-off and install a new rom?
hepl
try this page it's newer version ... works
revolutionary.io
majoto81 said:
try this page it's newer version ... works
revolutionary.io
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revolutionary does not root your phone, it gives you S-OFF, therefore the ability to flash custom recoveries, radios, bootloaders etc.
S-OFF and Root are not the same. Root means that you have root (admin) access in the Android system, while with S-OFF you are able to do as mentioned above.
So OP, if you want root, you need to S-OFF with revolutionary, flash a custom recovery, and then (OPTIONAL!) flash superuzer.zip from recovery to gain root access to your stock ROM. If you flash custom firmware it already comes with root access.

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hello i have an htc desire whit s-off on stock ruu and cwm recovery but no root and all over the internet they said that just revolutionary can root my gb stock rom but when i enter in revolutionary it just said that i have already s-off and ask me if i want to flash a custom recovery, no root question how can i root my desire? and something else i will not change my stock ruu whit an other one , this is the only that work on my desire and i don't want any custom rom so please is there anyone that can tell me how to root my desire?
Revolutionary does not root ur phone, it makes u s-off. To root, simply google superuser, and on that site, download superuser zip file and the su-binary for arm. Put both files on sdcard, boot recovery and flash both zip files and reboot.

[Q] Custom ROM with S-OFF rooted to Custom ROM with S-ON Unrooted possible?

Hi there,
did some searching and red a lot about going from a rooted s-off device to completely stock (s-on, unrooted, ruu). But i want to know if it is possible to go from: s-off, rooted, custom rom to: s-on; unrooted; custom rom ?
Why? you ask. Because i use my old Desire for work (bring your own device (BYOD)). And byod uses MobileIron which detects s-off and root. Company policy is no rooted etc. phones allowed. So i thought, i can s-on en unroot but with a much better Mildwild GB rom.
Is it as easy as to flash the rom.zip and unroot ? or is there more ?
Why would you ever want to do that?
Chromium_ said:
Why would you ever want to do that?
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edited fist post. Because of company policy.
To remove s-off you would need to flash an ruu. Then you would have to unlock the phone via HTC dev in order to flash a custom recovery. After that you could flash whatever rom you want through the recovery, however most roms (including milwilds) come rooted. You could try removing the supersu/superuser apk as well as the su binary located inside of the rom zip, which may work, but it also may cause other issues.

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