[Q] Turning off GSM roaming - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone
We will be moving close to the border soon and I noticed our devices (my wife also has a Desire Z, though it is stock) tend to connect to services from across the border.
Now having turned off data roaming, this isn't that big of a deal but roaming calls still cost more this way AND I can't use navigation because data roaming is deactivated.
Now I know I can set my preferred service provider, but can I also lock it (meaning: turn off roaming completely) so I have to manually allow roaming to accur when, and only when, I truly need it?

If you go to Wireless and networking settings you can select "mobile networks", the same screen you select dataroaming...
you can select your mobile provider I think that when you select Search for network and you select one network it won't automatically select a new one if your connection gets low.

That's what I thought, too, but in reality, it didn't really work. Although I have received a hint that it might only work if mobile data was deactivated at that moment. I'll try this thursday... let's see what happens.

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Data connection limitation app

Hi,
Does anyone know of any app that restricts data connection to only when in WCDMA (UMTS 3G) network?
Reason why is that i use my Dopod D810 to surf the net and download files. However i have managed to rack up $320 in roaming charges for internet usage even though i am on a 1 GB XSeries plan on 3.
I was not aware that i was roaming at all. So in future, i want my phone to automatically disconnect when "Roaming".
Is there such an app? I have tried Bandswitch but i couldnt get it to do what i wanted.
use search.
There is an app called trinity hacks or something that adds this feature.
Are you sure? I have Trinity Hacks v0.3 and it doesnt seem to have this feature.
What i want is for my phone to automatically disconnect once it is "roaming" onto Telstra's network from the 3 network.
Yes,
Trinity Hacks v0.3 --> Phone tab --> 'Enable GSM/UMTS Band Selection'
Ticking this enables a new tab under 'Settings' --> 'Phone' --> 'Band'
Switch it from 'auto' to 'WCDMA'
Then you will never incur roaming charges on Telstra network.
Yeah i already have that setup.
What i want is to be able to Roam to Telstra so i get full PHONE coverage, but once it goes to roaming, i want the data connection to automatically disconnect.
What you have asked me to do is to permanently connect only to 3G which means i cannot get reception everywhere.
Does that make sense?
What you want is not possible without some serious programming! The Radio stack can be set to connect to GSM, UMTS/WCDMA or either, but you can't split voice and data functionality.
Hi,
Thanks for all your replies, but im not asking for voice and data functionality to be split. The phone can already tell whether it is roaming or on the home network. Isn't it just a matter of getting this information from the phone possibly via the OS API and then when the phone returns a value to signify that its roaming, then the program will disconnect the connection, just like pressing the disconnect button, but this time programmatically?
Im not asking for someone to write something like this, but if something already exist like this.
Maybe this reply is not needed anymore sinds the thread is one month old. Still, I use spb grps monitor. It has a lot of customization option. Maybe it has a feature that will do the trick. I'm not going to look into it myself. Just wanted to give you a headsup.

Force Network Selection

I want to set my network manually to a single one and have the phone auto-connect to it when it gets signal.
The manual network select works keeps coming up with a box asking me to select the network when I go in and out of range. I can't trust the auto setting because it keeps connecting to transmitters that are across the border (so roaming charges apply).
I did try using the Set Networks function of the network selection panel but the settings never save?! They just revert back to what they were before each time.

[Q] Concerns about data roaming

I hope I'm posting this in the proper category.
Namely, I'll be leaving my home country very soon and travel abroad and I will most certainly need to occasionally do SSH connection to my server over 3G, which leads me to data roaming. Now, data roaming at my carrier is super expensive, so I was wondering if there is a way to completely disable data while in roaming, but still be able to connect to 3G and EDGE when I explicitly tell the phone to do so (eg. for SSHing somewhere or checking in on Foursquare, refreshing Twitter timeline, etc).
I saw that there's an option to uncheck Data Roaming in Wireless & Network settings, but I would say that will completely turn off all data connections and NOT allow me to manually and explicitly initiate data connections. Is that true? Is there a way to make it connect to 3G only when I explicitly tell it to while remaining disconnected otherwise?
Allow all phone data settings on. Download APNdroid or similar (APN on off widget) from the market. Open app and set any preferences, then add widget to home screen. Activate by tapping on off on (or something like that). Green on, red off.
All it does is rename the APN settings so it "fails" to connect.
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petarpetrovic said:
I hope I'm posting this in the proper category.
I saw that there's an option to uncheck Data Roaming in Wireless & Network settings, but I would say that will completely turn off all data connections and NOT allow me to manually and explicitly initiate data connections. Is that true? Is there a way to make it connect to 3G only when I explicitly tell it to while remaining disconnected otherwise?
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Your quite correct in that it will stop data connections, but why not turn it back on when you want to connect?, the other possibly cheaper option would be to, as long as your phone is not networked locked, buy a local PAYG sim with data and use that in your phone when you want to use 3G
Buying local sim would be wise option....
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A local prepaid SIM is a good idea, far cheaper than using data roaming.
Additionally, to avoid background data usage, you might want to install Droidwall and allow only the SSH app to connect to the internet.
ghostofcain said:
Your quite correct in that it will stop data connections, but why not turn it back on when you want to connect?
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Because I want only that one application to use the data connection when I want it to, without all other apps opening their own connections for sync and other stuff, since I have a lot of apps and accounts that sync in certain periods of time (this is an Android device, after all ).
frosty_ice said:
Additionally, to avoid background data usage, you might want to install Droidwall and allow only the SSH app to connect to the internet.
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Exactly what I needed! Many thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it out!

Potential Work Around For Data Loss

This is NOT the "LOS" bug, as its commonly understood, where you lose your cellular service (circle with a line for those who are lucky enough to be informed their phone crashed). This is the dreaded Roaming Triange of Data Death.
Background: Occasionally, when roaming, I lose all data connectivity, and I get the triangle warning in the notification bar that says "You have lost data connectivity be...." and of course, its impossible to read the rest of the warning. Standard deductive reasoning, assisted by posts here, tell me its a probably something like "because of your roaming data guard settings."
Some here have suggested that Samsung phones are unable to roam on PCS data.
What I did:
1) I check my roaming data settings, and I have the option to roam enabled, and roam guards enabled. I disable the roam guard. No data. I check the box again, no data.
2) I reboot the phone, no data.
3) I uncheck both the voice and data roam settings for domestic and international and reselect the domestic. I get the "Are you sure...?" prompt, and select yes. No data.
4) I uncheck the data roam guard, and then go back to Roam Settings, uncheck and recheck data roaming, and voila! I get the big triangle that asks me if I want to data roam, I say yes, and I have data again! 3G, too. I pulled 1.3mbs in the middle of the forest in northern Wisconsin. (I was roaming on Cellcom, apparently)
I was able to reproduce the problem pretty easily... It seems like when the roam guard is enabled, you don't actually get the Allow? Yes/No warning prompt when you start to data roam. However, turning it off the guard by itself didn't fix the problem... I also had to turn off the ability to data roam, and then turn it back on before the phone allowed me to roam.
I hope this helps someone else!
Dalmus said:
This is NOT the "LOS" bug, as its commonly understood, where you lose your cellular service (circle with a line for those who are lucky enough to be informed their phone crashed). This is the dreaded Roaming Triange of Data Death.
Background: Occasionally, when roaming, I lose all data connectivity, and I get the triangle warning in the notification bar that says "You have lost data connectivity be...." and of course, its impossible to read the rest of the warning. Standard deductive reasoning, assisted by posts here, tell me its a probably something like "because of your roaming data guard settings."
Some here have suggested that Samsung phones are unable to roam on PCS data.
What I did:
1) I check my roaming data settings, and I have the option to roam enabled, and roam guards enabled. I disable the roam guard. No data. I check the box again, no data.
2) I reboot the phone, no data.
3) I uncheck both the voice and data roam settings for domestic and international and reselect the domestic. I get the "Are you sure...?" prompt, and select yes. No data.
4) I uncheck the data roam guard, and then go back to Roam Settings, uncheck and recheck data roaming, and voila! I get the big triangle that asks me if I want to data roam, I say yes, and I have data again! 3G, too. I pulled 1.3mbs in the middle of the forest in northern Wisconsin. (I was roaming on Cellcom, apparently)
I was able to reproduce the problem pretty easily... It seems like when the roam guard is enabled, you don't actually get the Allow? Yes/No warning prompt when you start to data roam. However, turning it off the guard by itself didn't fix the problem... I also had to turn off the ability to data roam, and then turn it back on before the phone allowed me to roam.
I hope this helps someone else!
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Yes, it's a known bug.
There were several threads about it.
Here's my own.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273527
Well it only asked you because you turned off the Guard. Once you say yes again the Guard is rechecked.
ssconceptz said:
Well it only asked you because you turned off the Guard. Once you say yes again the Guard is rechecked.
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But the guard settings should be permanent. If I have disable the roaming guard, it should never ask me if I want to roam. I shouldn't have to recheck it, and then uncheck it again in order for it to allow roaming.

Roaming "Allow access only for this trip". How does it work?

I have the Note 10+ non 5G version, unlocked.
Carrier = Verizon
Phone has a setting "Allow access only for this trip" for data under Mobile networks > Data roaming access".
Does anyone know how the phone detects the start and end of a trip?
I thought phone would ask for a duration for my trip, but no. It appears to be automatic so the phone automatically guesses what my trip is? Maybe based on GPS data?
I left it at "Allow access only for this trip" for several months during which I took many trips out of the country and I always had data when I was out of country, without having to re-enable "Allow access only for this trip". Also, setting remains at "Allow access only for this trip" after traveling back home. I thought it might have reset the setting to Deny access, but nope.
From my point of view the setting is equivalent to data roaming "always on" but I'd like to know more about how this works, I'm sure I'm missing something.
Obviously I searched the user manual and googled this topic extensively, but other than saying that the setting exists I found no info on how it actually works to detect when a trip starts and ends.
it is likely on network detection, if you are in another country you will be on that countries local network, then when you get back home you will go back to your home network, this would likely be the most simple way for it to detect it.
Thanks, makes sense detecting the network.
Follow-up question is:
Is the expected behavior that when you return home (on your home carrier network) that the setting doesn't change from "Allow access only for this trip" (that's what happens for me, consistently)?
Then when you take the next trip, what happens? Do you have roaming data, or not (the setting hasn't changed and is still set top "Allow access only for this trip" at the start of the next trip, do you have to select the same setting again even if it's already selected (as a radio button setting) otherwise you won't have roaming data?

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