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I rooted because I was fed up with the preinstalled Orange bloatware apps as I need the space! I used unrevoked and I have full root access i.e. I have the superuser app and I have been able to access the system partition and even managed to delete apk files from the system apps directory.
However, despite trying all the suggestions i found on these forums and elsewhere; Root Explorer, System App Remover and Titanium backup, no matter how many times I remove the apps in question, within a short time, the phone reboots and the apps are back again!
Please note that I am only trying to remove the stupid games etc which Orange stuff the ROM with not anything significant.
I really dont fancy flashing a new ROM as I cant be bothered setting up my phone again from scratch, so any advice somebody can give would be REALLY apreciated!!
You need to S-Off your phone, not just root if you want to remove your applications, while the phone is booted.
Search a guide here in the Android Developement section.
Alternatively use ADB to remove the files - your phone must be in recovery mode.
Thanks so much!!
Or better yet, just install one of the custom roms with a2sd. If you don't want a modified one, just use rooted froyo with a2sd, this is a good one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789058
david_inuk said:
I rooted because I was fed up with the preinstalled Orange bloatware apps as I need the space! I used unrevoked and I have full root access i.e. I have the superuser app and I have been able to access the system partition and even managed to delete apk files from the system apps directory.
However, despite trying all the suggestions i found on these forums and elsewhere; Root Explorer, System App Remover and Titanium backup, no matter how many times I remove the apps in question, within a short time, the phone reboots and the apps are back again!
Please note that I am only trying to remove the stupid games etc which Orange stuff the ROM with not anything significant.
I really dont fancy flashing a new ROM as I cant be bothered setting up my phone again from scratch, so any advice somebody can give would be REALLY apreciated!!
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If you are S-ON you can delete them with ADB when you are in recovery mode.
You can also delete them through root explorer from the market. It's not free but it takes two minutes to use and you can see what your deleting if you are unsure
I have the same issue here.
Will try the ADB method when get a chance, but Root Explorer won't delete them - you can delete unwanted games etc, but they are still on the apps list the the files will come back after the reboot - tried this already.
kjur said:
I have the same issue here.
Will try the ADB method when get a chance, but Root Explorer won't delete them - you can delete unwanted games etc, but they are still on the apps list the the files will come back after the reboot - tried this already.
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really, what rom? i didnt have any issues with the setup mentioned in my sig
vis-tec said:
really, what rom? i didnt have any issues with the setup mentioned in my sig
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You are S-OFF, so no wonders why you don't have any problems
titanium backup
why not just use titanium backup. its free and a very easy way to uninstall apps.
Again, you need to be s-off to uninstall system apk, which unfortunately all the bloatware is.
Clarification, you need to be s-off to use titanium or root explorer to remove system apk.
veitograf said:
why not just use titanium backup. its free and a very easy way to uninstall apps.
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@vis-tec: It's Orange UK, rooted, but S-ON. ADB method works perfect tough. Tested last night. Also integrated some system apps updates in the ROM via ADB.
titanium backup hasn't work for me either.
only ADB
remember that deleting bloatware does not give you any extra amount of space.
these apps are in \system which is not where apps you download install.
only way of extending you app-space is A2SD+ or DATA2XXX but they tend to slow down the phone
best solution >> S-OFF and ROM designed to run on a custom HBOOT.
u get lots of space, and a super fast rom since dalvik cache stays on NAND
dzumagos said:
remember that deleting bloatware does not give you any extra amount of space.
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it does.
i've had google maps, youtube updates etc in the /data/app and after deleting bloatware and the old versions of gmaps etc. there was enough space in /system/app to move the updates there.
so now on the /data/app is 8-10MB more for my other apps.
also if i'm right the /system partition is used as cache for apps, so there is more space for this.
and it looks way better when you open 'all apps' drawer - the list is much shorter now and there is only the stuff you need
I have the premium version of Titanium Backup which I have been using for over a year with much success.
I have one query which would make it really awesome if it can be accomplished.
I normally only use it when doing a ROM upgrade. When I am getting ready to upgrade, I delete all my old backups, do a new set of backups on all user apps + system data, and wipe and flash the ROM. Then, when I'm back inside, I go into the Market and download Titanium plus the Pro unlock, and restore the backup.
(First of all, is this what you guys do? restoring all system data shouldn't screw up the features of the new ROM from the old one, right?)
The question is: Is there any way to have Titanium run without having to first go into the Market, find the app plus the unlock, download it, and install it? i.e. If I could just run it straight off the SD card, or install it straight off the SD card without having to use the Market.
Ideally, it would be even better if I could have a startup script on first run where it just restores the full set of apps + system data after I've flashed the ROM.
Is this at all possible?
download or extract from a rom the titanium.apk, put it on sd-card an install the apk after flashing new rom and it´s done.
Ozzah said:
I have the premium version of Titanium Backup which I have been using for over a year with much success.
I have one query which would make it really awesome if it can be accomplished.
I normally only use it when doing a ROM upgrade. When I am getting ready to upgrade, I delete all my old backups, do a new set of backups on all user apps + system data, and wipe and flash the ROM. Then, when I'm back inside, I go into the Market and download Titanium plus the Pro unlock, and restore the backup.
(First of all, is this what you guys do? restoring all system data shouldn't screw up the features of the new ROM from the old one, right?)
The question is: Is there any way to have Titanium run without having to first go into the Market, find the app plus the unlock, download it, and install it? i.e. If I could just run it straight off the SD card, or install it straight off the SD card without having to use the Market.
Ideally, it would be even better if I could have a startup script on first run where it just restores the full set of apps + system data after I've flashed the ROM.
Is this at all possible?
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Never restore system data as it can and has causes issues. It is only advised to restore user apps and data never system data.
As for your other question no not that I know of. Most roms worth anything already include TIBU so all you have to do is install the pro key and run it.
Start Titanium backup
Goto menu/more/create update>zip
scroll down and hit "create update.zip"
when you install a new Rom just use "add another zip" when in Rom manager or 4EXT recovery
Goto SD card and select "update.zip" from root of SD card
Hope that helps
alchopop said:
Start Titanium backup
Goto menu/more/create update>zip
scroll down and hit "create update.zip"
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Thanks, that's great!
Do you know if it is smart enough to bundle the Pro unlock into the update.zip? I opened the zip file up and there only appears to be 1 APK in there.
Would it be difficult (or even possible?) to manually adjust the update.zip so that it includes the Pro unlock APK?
Ozzah said:
Thanks, that's great!
Do you know if it is smart enough to bundle the Pro unlock into the update.zip? I opened the zip file up and there only appears to be 1 APK in there.
Would it be difficult (or even possible?) to manually adjust the update.zip so that it includes the Pro unlock APK?
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Pro unlock is stored on the SD card, no need to worry about it
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restoring
So I'm returning my nexus for a replacement today. Some kind of battery issue that makes it keep turning off every night:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34923533#post34923533
On restoring, if I understand right, I'm going to move my titanium folder back to the new nexus to the SD card area.
Run my TiBU apk and just restore my apps and associated files.
If I understand right, I Should Not restore my system files right? (Although i did a lot of customizing i was hoping could come right over).
Then when i have it all customized again, I'll back up the new system and hopefully it won't have any issues anymore.
Just an android noob talking it through, sound good?
I'll be installing the rom and CM10 again of course before doing this.
zelendel said:
Never restore system data as it can and has causes issues. It is only advised to restore user apps and data never system data.
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Sorry, i take this opportunity to ask a question i had in mind for a long time: what exactly do you mean by "system data"?
I mean, can i restore stuff like "Settings", or "Wireless network", "Bluetooth associations", "SMS", "Wallpaper" and stuff like this? Is really annoying to have to re-customize from scratch the CyanogenMod settings and similar stuff, everytime i do a full wipe...
sberla54 said:
Sorry, i take this opportunity to ask a question i had in mind for a long time: what exactly do you mean by "system data"?
I mean, can i restore stuff like "Settings", or "Wireless network", "Bluetooth associations", "SMS", "Wallpaper" and stuff like this? Is really annoying to have to re-customize from scratch the CyanogenMod settings and similar stuff, everytime i do a full wipe...
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You can restore these, they're not system level files (i.e. make the system run)
GuyInTheCorner said:
You can restore these, they're not system level files (i.e. make the system run)
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Thank you!
So....what's the stuff i DON'T have to restore, because messes up my system?
sberla54 said:
Thank you!
So....what's the stuff i DON'T have to restore, because messes up my system?
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Do not restore data from SYSTEM apps.
dalanik said:
Do not restore data from SYSTEM apps.
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Could you tell me a couple of examples?
I'm sorry but i really can't figure out which ones are the system apps. In my opinion, even Settings and Wireless networks are system apps.
Do you mean all the services, frameworks, sms and contacts apps and stuff like this?
sberla54 said:
Could you tell me a couple of examples?
I'm sorry but i really can't figure out which ones are the system apps. In my opinion, even Settings and Wireless networks are system apps.
Do you mean all the services, frameworks, sms and contacts apps and stuff like this?
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I think he's talking about app names that are red-colored while you're doing the backup in Titanium BackUp.
Am I right?
Cheers
Please delete
I would like to remove the sense from my rom and replace it with either adw launcher or launcher pro.
Could any one give me tut on how to do this or point me in the right direction.
Danke In Advance.
try this
written for desire, but the principles should be virtually the same. requires adb and command lines.
sense launcher is normally called rosie.apk. you can delete all other sense widgets too and any other system apps you don't want, just be careful not to delete any system critical stuff.
make sure you have the other launcher already installed (i prefer go launcher personally)
always have a nandroid just in case
you won't get any more internal memory by doing this, just more unused space on system partition, but at least it won't be cluttered with stuff you don't use
(i assume you're not s-off, otherwise you could just delete the stuff directly using something like root explorer)
I am s-off i might need to go into more detail .. basically i'm trying to create my own rom but i'm having difficulty removing htc sense and adding my own custom launcher (adw) i've tried it twice but all that happens is i get a black screen after boot with the notification bar and thats it the rom works but with no gui
lynuxlover said:
I am s-off i might need to go into more detail .. basically i'm trying to create my own rom but i'm having difficulty removing htc sense and adding my own custom launcher (adw) i've tried it twice but all that happens is i get a black screen after boot with the notification bar and thats it the rom works but with no gui
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well if you're s-off much easier, no command lines at all, you can pretty much ignore that guide lol
- nandroid backup
- download and install adw as you would normally, set it to default launcher.
- use root explorer or similar to delete rosie.apk + sense widgets + any apps you don't use
- reboot into recovery, wipe dalvik and cache
- reboot will take a while as it's rebuilding dalvik.
should work fine, did this before on all desire sense roms i used before. the principle for this phone should be the same in theory
if it works, you can then move adw to system/app with titanium backup (pro?), or 'SystemCleanup' (free). the launcher should run better from system/app
I will give this ago and tell you how it got on but I should say before I start i won't be doing any of this on my actual device I will be modifying a stock rom using the android kitchen
lynuxlover said:
I will give this ago and tell you how it got on but I should say before I start i won't be doing any of this on my actual device I will be modifying a stock rom using the android kitchen
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lol you really need to give more details in the first post, not as you go along...
i've not used the kitchen, guess it doesn't give the option to have adw as well as rosie?
if you modify a cooked rom from the kitchen use 7zip.
- (make a copy of the rom.zip)
- double click the rom.zip opens it (but doesn't extract it).
- delete rosie.apk etc from system/app
- drag the adw apk into the same folder.
- close 7zip to update it
- nandroid backup, full wipe and flash (you may need to turn off signature verification in recovery)
if this doesn't work then try to do as above, but don't delete anything before flashing. set it up, then delete stuff after as described originally
It doesn't give you the option to change the launcher whilst modding the rom but i thought you would just be able to remove the rosie.apk and all the other htc crap whilst modding it and give it your own launcher I'm it might have something to do with modding the internal system such as the framework which i will do if needed but *sigh such a balls up on my part just tried what you suggested then booted into recovery wiped everything then tried installing to no luck
"installation aborted"
(bad) <--- what the hell is that supposed to mean lmao !!
not certain this sounds like the zip got corrupted during transfer.
if you modded the zip as described, clockwordmod should at least try to install it and you can see the progress. worst comes to worst the rom just won't boot if you've deleted too much, or just something critical.
to be sure, you're not extracting and rezipping right?
try downloading again, transfer using card reader if possible.
also keep an unmodified rom.zip made using the kitchen, and transfer to sd card using the same method. try installing that for comparison.
I'm fairly new to the whole root/S-OFF/custom ROM world.
After flashing cmlusco's Touch of Blue ROM, I realized that it did not include Verizon's Backup Assistant. Makes complete sense to not include it, however, I found myself in a situation where I briefly needed it. No problem - I just flashed the Backup Assistant apk through recovery and was able to successfully use it.
Now I want to get rid of it. What is the recommended method for completely removing Backup Assistant? What is the safest method for removing it?
I appreciate any assistance/advice
Use a program like "Titanium Backup" to uninstall the Verizon app. It's free in the play store. Once downloaded, press:
1) Menu button
2) select Filter
3) then check "All apps" under filter status
4) check "User" under filter type
5) click Apply then find and uninstall the Verizon app.
Titanium Backup is very useful if you want to uninstall System apps or regular apps since it is a root app. Just be careful what you uninstall cuz you can uninstall virtually anything (widgets, apps, apk's) using this app.
Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.
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Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.
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It's much faster/easier to just uninstall it with TB
cmlusco said:
Or you can just use a root file explorer to navigate to /system/app and delete or rename the VzWBAClient.apk, VzWBAService.apk, VzwLBSPerm.apk, and VZWInstaller.apk. Then reboot and it will be gone.
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This is what I ended up doing - thanks for the info.
I was originally going to use Titanium to accomplish this, but it gave a warning that important system files could also be deleted. Given that I've backed everything up, I assume that there wouldn't be any real issues even if Titanium did delete something critical.
Which brings up another question: is Titanium doing the same thing as manually deleting the 4 files listed above? I suppose I could test this by reinstalling Backup Assistant, using Titanium to uninstall, and looking to see what is left...
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This is what I ended up doing - thanks for the info.
I was originally going to use Titanium to accomplish this, but it gave a warning that important system files could also be deleted. Given that I've backed everything up, I assume that there wouldn't be any real issues even if Titanium did delete something critical.
Which brings up another question: is Titanium doing the same thing as manually deleting the 4 files listed above? I suppose I could test this by reinstalling Backup Assistant, using Titanium to uninstall, and looking to see what is left...
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Basicly yes its doing the same thing just automating it for you. If you delete with titanium the files get deleted, if you freeze with titanium the files are either renamed or moved.
cmlusco said:
Basicly yes its doing the same thing just automating it for you. If you delete with titanium the files get deleted, if you freeze with titanium the files are either renamed or moved.
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More good info - thanks again. I appreciate the patience and willingness of the community to help educate newbs like myself.
BTW, excellent work on the Touch of Blue ROM - it's been running nearly perfect for me after ~2 weeks.
S2theSea said:
More good info - thanks again. I appreciate the patience and willingness of the community to help educate newbs like myself.
BTW, excellent work on the Touch of Blue ROM - it's been running nearly perfect for me after ~2 weeks.
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Thank you, glad you like it.
Found a question that's interesting for me as well, but no answer...
Is there any way to remove those apps being stock without root? (If not, how to remove them with root?)
Also unneeded apps:
*Google
[Slides]
[Sheets]
[Docs]
[Exchange Services]
[Play Movies]
[Play Music]
[Hangouts]
[Keep]
*Social
[Facebook]
[Messenger]
[Instagram]
[News Republic]
*HTC
[Connect]
[Help]
[...]
P.S. I can understand the preinstallation of GApps, but why the heck would i like to have Facebook, Messenger and Instagram preinstalled on my system, that cannot even be uninstalled?
KotTHECat said:
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you have to have root. to remove them you install a file explorer with root access, like Root Explorer is my favorite.
You browse to the system folder of the phone and youll see an apps folder and a priv-app folder. the stuff your looking for will be in there and you delete the entire folder of the apps you don't want. reboot when finished and they should be uninstalled.
it will be best to start with backing up your untouched system incase removing some app gives you problems, which it can when messing with system apps.
there is also play store apps the will uninstall for you, other apps can also "freeze" bloat without actually removing so you can see side effects of removing them
You can remove them all easily without root but you'll need a custom recovery like TWRP.
I do this before first boot to clean up apps and add HTC file explorer etc.
You can flash TWRP, remove apps then restore the factory recovery.
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I just disabled them on mine, not like you would free up considerable space and if they are disabled, you don't get the updates eating in to your storage as the original just sits in the system partition.
afuller42 said:
you have to have root. to remove them you install a file explorer with root access, like Root Explorer is my favorite.
You browse to the system folder of the phone and youll see an apps folder and a priv-app folder. the stuff your looking for will be in there and you delete the entire folder of the apps you don't want. reboot when finished and they should be uninstalled.
it will be best to start with backing up your untouched system incase removing some app gives you problems, which it can when messing with system apps.
there is also play store apps the will uninstall for you, other apps can also "freeze" bloat without actually removing so you can see side effects of removing them
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Any way to remove Facebook completely without any problems after? Was thinking to maybe just buy the Chinese Version from China since China does not allow Facebook in the first place.