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HTC Desire with pinkish AMOLED display anyone?

Hello. Received my HTC Desire today (typing this post on this lovely device)
Unfortunately, I'm noticing a subtle pinkish display instead of white and wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
This is my first AMOLED display and wondering if this is normal or have I got a faulty display and should get it replaced?

sounds like a faulty display, as you can see on many videos on youtube none of them are pinkish

if you have another camera (or phone with cam) try to take a pic of it and post it. ... it does sound strange never heard anyone complain about the display

The only pinkish thing on my phone is background in Google Mail app. But that's how it's supposed to be I guess.

If the screen brightness is turned to a minimum, there is a certainly visible pinkish tint to the screen. This isn't bothering me though as I don't ever plan to reduce the backlight to that level!

weirdwilli said:
If the screen brightness is turned to a minimum, there is a certainly visible pinkish tint to the screen. This isn't bothering me though as I don't ever plan to reduce the backlight to that level!
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I think that pinkishness (now that's a word!) comes from overall theme colors. If you turn it down to the minimum and visit a while page on your browser it won't look pinkish. At least it doesn't to me.

Thanks everyone. Tried the suggestions and here's what happened.
If I turn down the brightness, the subtle pinkish display becomes very pinkish, definitely exaggerates the pink hue effect ...
If I turn up the brightness to full, the pinkish display disappears.
Here's the funny thing ... Google Mail definitely has a slight pink hue, regardless of what the brightness level is but in all other apps, it doesn't ...
So, fellow xda'ers ... should I replace it or not ...? I wish I could say the subtle pink hue doesn't bother me, but I can't help notice it in Google Mail (which also happens to be my number one, most used application).
Really, I need to know whether this is a fault (or the start of this display becoming 'more' faulty) or just something that AMOLED displays generally exhibit ...
Your thoughts are much appreciated, as always ...

khyasad said:
Thanks everyone. Tried the suggestions and here's what happened.
If I turn down the brightness, the subtle pinkish display becomes very pinkish, definitely exaggerates the pink hue effect ...
If I turn up the brightness to full, the pinkish display disappears.
Here's the funny thing ... Google Mail definitely has a slight pink hue, regardless of what the brightness level is but in all other apps, it doesn't ...
So, fellow xda'ers ... should I replace it or not ...? I wish I could say the subtle pink hue doesn't bother me, but I can't help notice it in Google Mail (which also happens to be my number one, most used application).
Really, I need to know whether this is a fault (or the start of this display becoming 'more' faulty) or just something that AMOLED displays generally exhibit ...
Your thoughts are much appreciated, as always ...
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I would still recommend you take a pic of the screen in "normal" brightness and post it, .. that way every one can see and compare it to their own device (preferably use stock wallpaper).

This happens on the Nexus One too. There is nothing to be concerned about.

irkan said:
I would still recommend you take a pic of the screen in "normal" brightness and post it, .. that way every one can see and compare it to their own device (preferably use stock wallpaper).
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Hi, will try to take a photo ... I'm out and about at the mo, but will be home later tonight ... Will use my HTC HD2 to take the photo and post it up ...

Think hue you see is probably due to a characteristic of the amoled used in the Desire (and Nexus One). Have a read here.

I get this too I just assumed it was due to the AMOLED screen.

khyasad said:
Hi, will try to take a photo ... I'm out and about at the mo, but will be home later tonight ... Will use my HTC HD2 to take the photo and post it up ...
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well that will introduce a pink blob then the HTC camera problem

Jaa-Yoo said:
Think hue you see is probably due to a characteristic of the amoled used in the Desire (and Nexus One). Have a read here.
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No i think his issue is something different, .. as he is noticing it on the pictures also not only text, ... (text is mostly effected because usually the black and white intersects, thast where the problem appears). however in the pictures, there should not be a problem (unless if this picture is black/white ofcourse)

I have this too, and I have two Desires - it only appears on one of them, so not all machines are the same. See my post new post from this morning.

XDAgeek said:
I have this too, and I have two Desires - it only appears on one of them, so not all machines are the same. See my post new post from this morning.
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can anyone of you please post a pic, ... i would really like to know how serious it is

It's NOT serious. In fact you could say the pinkish one is slightly warmer (which many people prefer), leaving the other machine looking slightly blue and colder.
Unless the machines are side by side, you'd never notice. There is probably more difference between your desktop computer and your laptop.

i have a zune hd and that is amoled and there is not even a slight hint of pink, so this is not something to do with amoled as a technology in general.

Figured I'd post this, clearly pink hue in comparison to the iphone. However this is one of the only videos I've noticed it in
Hmm, cant post links as I'm new,
youtube.com/watch?v=Tbb1b3AXOGs

Yes, just wanted to post that one. I found another one.
Funny thing is that some devices have that effect, some of them hoesn 't (or effect is not visibile on video).

[Q] LCD Bakclight Glow

Hi
I've bought yesterday my Desire and I've noticed that in the upper middle screen part there is a small yellowish backlight glow only seen on black background. Can You tell me if there should be one or I should take it back to the shop ? This is probably the new SLCD version. I don't know is this a flaw or all of the sceens have some little glow on the black.
Thanks in advance

yellowish backlight?
is it in a dot size?
have you try different background color (red, green, blue)?

yellowish backlight?
is it in a dot size?
have you try different background color (red, green, blue)?

It is some kind of LCD bleeding. It looks similar to the picture attached below.
Mine is just slightly visible compared to this photo (copied from androidforums.com) but still it's the same issue. I just wanted to confirm from a SLCD Desire user if this is a typical for those diplays, or if I should take it back to the shop.

Most LCD screens bleed light to some degree, but that looks totally unacceptable to me. I'd take it back.
EDIT: Oops, should have read the full post. Well that one above is really bad, any chance of getting a picture of yours?

aljwatson69 said:
Most LCD screens bleed light to some degree, but that looks totally unacceptable to me. I'd take it back.
EDIT: Oops, should have read the full post. Well that one above is really bad, any chance of getting a picture of yours?
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Yeah, I finally managed to do some photos.
The second one is with other light source (a 20W lamp). The first and third are without any lamp, high iso photos, but the first one has added brigthness in Photoshop, and third is on default. Remember these photos are on full display brightness, just to show how the screen behaves on dark, black background.

cant u see if its slcd on the side of ur package?

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cant u see if its slcd on the side of ur package?
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It is a slcd because it doesn't say it's amoled on the back. I just wanted to know if all slcds in Desire have this problem. I don't want to take it back just to get another device that has the same problem or even worse.

Well that's definitely SLCD... OLED (like my phone) will be pitch black when it's on a black screen, as there is no backlight on them.
Yes that is definitely a flaw. I would definitely take it back. It's unlikely you'd get another one that bad.

I've found a film on YouTube:
So it's just probably the thing with all SLCD's. Still I love the phone and since I know that I won't get a AMOLED version I'll probably keep this and just have fun with it. Thank You all for Your replies

[Q] Is it possible to improve wallpaper resolution?

Ive got this beautiful wallpaper here that I want to use with MattedBlue setup I am working on but I cant get over the blurry the picture quality looks on my phone. Is it possible to improve the quality for picture? Any knowledge anybody can drop on me would be much appreciated!

use wallpaper set and save from the market to set wallpapers at full res instead of having to crop

Thanks Success. I actually do not have to crop this picture at all... the dimensions are perfect so WSS didnt make much difference. So I guess there is no way to improve image quality?

titans10 said:
Thanks Success. I actually do not have to crop this picture at all... the dimensions are perfect so WSS didnt make much difference. So I guess there is no way to improve image quality?
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It's because that wallpaper has a gradient which is made up of more colors than the 65k the EVO screen can handle..
Yes, WSS is better than the N1 3D Gallery app and better than the Sense Gallery app, but there's still a hardware limitation, unfortunately.
I've compared some of my wallpapers on my EVO to one of my friend's PalmPre and another friend's Epic 4G and I was blown away.
Some people say they can't see the difference.
I work with graphics all day so I notice all the banding and lack of colors and everything else.
Nonetheless, the EVO screen is still excellent, color capacity notwithstanding.

typeadam said:
It's because that wallpaper has a gradient which is made up of more colors than the 65k the EVO screen can handle..
Yes, WSS is better than the N1 3D Gallery app and better than the Sense Gallery app, but there's still a hardware limitation, unfortunately.
I've compared some of my wallpapers on my EVO to one of my friend's PalmPre and another friend's Epic 4G and I was blown away.
Some people say they can't see the difference.
I work with graphics all day so I notice all the banding and lack of colors and everything else.
Nonetheless, the EVO screen is still excellent, color capacity notwithstanding.
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Well that sucks But thanks sooo much for the response typeadam. I learned something today lol. Off I go to continue my quest of finding a perfect wallpaper to go with my MattedBlues theme!

NOTE: I was able to find a higher resolution picture of the image i posted above that looks much better on our Evos. Anyone who is interested, PM me and I'll get the wallpaper to ya

Why do I like the screen color of my Evo 4g more than the Epic 4g Touch?

I dont understand why these newer screens just look worse in coloration to me. It seems like all these new phones have a blue or green tint to the screens. I went to look at a Epic 4g touch in the store today because I love the form factor but the screen doesnt look as good to me. Is this fixable with some sort of calibration? Or is the hue always there? I want a new phone but I dont know what to do! I like the screen of my old one more!
What say you XDA experts! Looking forward to your responses!

I think you're 100% right. I remember comparing my old G2x screen to the display unit at the sprint store and being quite turned off by it. It even took me a few weeks to get used to the "bluish" color of the Epic... however.. I do so love that deep black. Wow.

Aagghh! So there's just no way to fix it? Seems like the only neutral screen these days is the 4gs

rnp614 said:
Aagghh! So there's just no way to fix it? Seems like the only neutral screen these days is the 4gs
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Check out "Screen Adjuster" by Netman in the market. It let's you adjust the RGB values of the screen, as well as the contrast.
Watching videos on the GS2 is very hard on the eyes if there are a lot of dark scenes... Most of the detail gets lost because of the deep black, even with the brightness turned up to 100%. This app lets me crank up the contrast as well so I can actually see detail in dark scenes.
Essential free app, in my opinion. It can be set to autorun at system startup, or you can run it on demand (that's how I use it).

Any way someone could post comparison screen shots? Would be interested to see how neutral one can get it. Also does using that program cause more battery drain?

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I dont understand why these newer screens just look worse in coloration to me. It seems like all these new phones have a blue or green tint to the screens. I went to look at a Epic 4g touch in the store today because I love the form factor but the screen doesnt look as good to me. Is this fixable with some sort of calibration? Or is the hue always there? I want a new phone but I dont know what to do! I like the screen of my old one more!
What say you XDA experts! Looking forward to your responses!
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There's a setting to adjust the colors to make it less saturated. Lighter colors especially white will never be pure white, then again there is no true black on an LCD
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

So it wont ever look as white as my evo 4g? Agh. I think I'll just wait for a Tegra 3 phone.

rnp614 said:
Any way someone could post comparison screen shots? Would be interested to see how neutral one can get it. Also does using that program cause more battery drain?
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Before I used the program, I could watch 2 full-length movies streaming 3G via Netflix and still be at 45-50% battery. After I started using the program, my battery usage didn't seem to change, at least not that I've noticed.

New screen is terrible.. I think. Help?

Can people please post pictures of their phones so I can see the grays? My keyboard and my menus all look TERRIBLE. And I just got this phone today... The store said call them tomorrow if I want to go back out and get a new phone so id like to see if its just me being crazy or if my first galaxy nexus was really better... Thank you for any help

Sounds like you may have banding? Give this thread a look

My issue is with my first one the menu was basically black at the top. and the bottom wasnt too too much lighter. This phone starts out at white on the bottom and is just washed out the entire way up. Idk if its normal or what but my other one was definitely better. I was running ARHD which i dont believe would have really helped. I just wanna see some keyboards and settings menus to see whats going on... The pictures came out a bit darker than real life but I believe they show how off the grays are. The blacks are pretty spot on its just once gray hits its washed out.

Anyone I only have till tomorrow so im gonna unfortunately be persistent.

Gahh Its Lee said:
My issue is with my first one the menu was basically black at the top. and the bottom wasnt too too much lighter. This phone starts out at white on the bottom and is just washed out the entire way up. Idk if its normal or what but my other one was definitely better. I was running ARHD which i dont believe would have really helped. I just wanna see some keyboards and settings menus to see whats going on... The pictures came out a bit darker than real life but I believe they show how off the grays are. The blacks are pretty spot on its just once gray hits its washed out.
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uh, thats by design. the menu is supposed to fade from black to gray going down.

I wish I could better explain... My other phone just flat out looked better... I just wanna see phones so I can tell if im going to even find one that looks good again... And my keyboard the top bar where the symbols are is the lightest part... I doubt thats by design.

The stock keyboard has a gradient. Rotate the phone and you'll see it in any orientation...
Another way to test is to take a screenshot with the phone and view it on the computer, then you'll see the true gradient that it's supposed to have so you can tell if your screen really is showing what it's supposed to or not.
Gahh Its Lee said:
I wish I could better explain... My other phone just flat out looked better... I just wanna see phones so I can tell if im going to even find one that looks good again... And my keyboard the top bar where the symbols are is the lightest part... I doubt thats by design.
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I believe the point is quickly getting lost... I know for a fact that my other phone had a better looking screen. I just want to see other peoples phones... Im not asking if mine should look this way as far as im concerned it shouldnt if my original didn't... The verizon tech support agreed but said this may just be how 99% of these phones are.
Great way to put it finally came to mind... The screen has the same amount of wash out at 10% brightness on this one as my old one did at 100%

Quality sucks but it was the best I could do on shorthand. Mine has the gradient as well...definitely by design and I think it looks good.
Edit: This is on auto-brightness, lowest level.

*shrug*

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Thank you... Mine doesnt actually look like that. my grays are all out of wack
Accused187 said:
Quality sucks but it was the best I could do on shorthand. Mine has the gradient as well...definitely by design and I think it looks good.
Edit: This is on auto-brightness, lowest level.
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Gahh Its Lee said:
Would it be possible for you to take a picture of your entire phone?
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Uhhh, maybe. Let me try.
Edit: Not at this time. I am getting blue tinted pictures in my current lighting.

Thanks anyway man. The one person showed me my grays are definitely lighter than they should be. I was told by tech support I can demand to be shown the phones until I find one I like... Tomorrow shall be fun