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Background:
Got an incredible last august, rooted, tried many roms, loved CM. CM gave me the best battery life and the most functionality. Three weeks ago I crushed my incredible in a bike accident. I was fine, incredible and other items in pannier were not. Long story short, got a new incredible through insurance, rooted, jumped to CM 7 and was immediately confronted with what I would describe as unusable battery life. I wake at 5:30am having charged overnight. Battery reads 100%. By 9:30am I am already below 30% with light usuage. Let me describe light usage. Read an email or two when i wake up, send a few text messages, check the time every 45 mins to an hour.
kernal: incredikernal (smartass governor with multiple profiles)
display settings: carbon copy of those in a discussion on CM7 Automatic Backlight Settings
I have made two changes with this new phone:
(1) I am using both the gmail app and the built in email app to sync an exchange account as well instead of just gmail
(2) I installed google music app and have been uploading my music from my computer for approx 6 days now
The (2) was my first guess as to what is draining my battery but when I view battery use I see display trumps everything (usually around 65%).
I have been trying really hard to figure this out via google but searching has led me to something of an impasse. Most info points to display but I am hesitant to believe that my display settings are incorrect due to the number of users who claim these to work well.
Any help/ideas/advice is appreciated!
I am on my second dinc also. Luckily I haven't had any issues like this.
Suggestions :
1) cm has a builtin set cpu. Just pick a gov and min/max. Let the kernel do its thing.
2) chads beta11 kernel is the best I've tried. It has an Ingenious gov that works great.
3) vipermod. It's a zip that you flash in recovery. Use terminal emulator to lower voltage.
4) battery calibration app. It's free in the market.
Chads kernel and the vipermod are both found here on xda.
Good luck
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I will give these a try. I am pretty sure i have already given the battery calibration a go but manually instead of through an app. I assume the app is just doing rm /data/systems/batterystats.bin? I was running both setCpu under CM7 so i got rid of that am letting the kernal do its thing with min 128 max 844 and smartass gov. I am going to experiment with vipermod when i get out of work as I have not read much documentation on it and would like to read before flash stuff that messes with voltage. Thanks for the advice, i will let you know how it goes.
No problem. The vipermod thing you open in terminal. It's very cool and easy. Adjustable voltage on the fly. I'm undervolted -100 on chads beta 11 cm7 99 nightly. 8hrs of hard use. Smooth as butter. Can't remember exactly what the battery calibration wipes. It tells you in the app.
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Wanted to bump this to see if any fellow forum members have noticed increased battery drain after installing the Google music beta app? I'm having a hard time figuring out what's going on, I've tried different radios, kernels, etc, but to no avail. Haven't tried uninstalling the app yet (but I don't really want to, its pretty convenient). When I look at what is using the battery in the settings menu, I've noticed the music app is never displayed (same thing with Netflix) but it seems to be using a decent chunk of memory.
Wondering if this is the root of my battery problems, it does seem to have gotten worse ever since I got the music beta invite..
Noticing battery drain also. Ill monitor it and get back to you. (Nexus S).
to k_nivesout: i have been narrowing down the list of possible culprits since first posting this. In my case it seems to be either music beta by google, cell standby or a partial wakelock caused by maps. I turned off my location which caused a drastic increase in the battery life but still did not give me the life I had with my last incredible. Cell standby was showing significant battery use most likely do to my lack of signal in my office where i work this summer. On the weekends I notice slightly better battery life in my house where i have full reception. This being said, music beta by google is the only thing that has actually changed since my last incredible. I am contemplating uninstalling it....
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Wanted to bump this to see if any fellow forum members have noticed increased battery drain after installing the Google music beta app? I'm having a hard time figuring out what's going on, I've tried different radios, kernels, etc, but to no avail. Haven't tried uninstalling the app yet (but I don't really want to, its pretty convenient). When I look at what is using the battery in the settings menu, I've noticed the music app is never displayed (same thing with Netflix) but it seems to be using a decent chunk of memory.
Wondering if this is the root of my battery problems, it does seem to have gotten worse ever since I got the music beta invite..
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That's a good observation! Well my phone is at 99% battery now, and I just uninstalled Music Beta. Will see if my battery life increased, because I too have seen an decrease in battery as of late.
Thanks for the replies everyone, I'm definitely curious to see if music beta is indeed what's causing the battery drain. I might have to uninstall it for a day or two and see if things improve. I'm assuming it would be easy to redownload and sync everything, I'd be interested in your guys' experience.
same terrible battery life on my D1 after installing the google music app....my library is also still uploading from my home computer, not sure if that makes a difference or not. one difference, however, is that in my battery stats, google music was at the top of the list. not sure why its not showing for you guys, but i uninstalled and everything seems back to normal now.
i will try re-installing it once my library uploads completely and see if that makes the difference....hopefully so!
Unfortunately I didn't really notice things get better even after my library was uploaded. Good info though, were you looking at battery usage from the settings menu?
With google music you could turn off auto sync. Especially when you are uploading from your computer.
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Here are my tweaks. Right now I'm at 7 Hours 46 Minutes with 66% Battery life. Couple hours of listening and downloading podcasts/audiobooks/music, some web browsing, app downloading and uninstalling.
Turn off Google Music Auto Sync
Turn off Google Book Sync
Check Weather Apps, stop any auto sync or location tracking
Turn softkey light off whenever possible (CM7 settings)
Screen time out 30 seconds (15 would be even better)
Juice Defender Ultimate (Controls Data/Syncing, huge difference for me)
No DSP Manager Tweaks
Remove any excess apps/ games
Ad Free Android (blocks ad downloads)
Incredikernal, ondemand governor
Turn off Bluetooth
Turn off GPS
I just got this phone a few days ago, and my battery life went from 60 to 30 in 20minutes while it was syncing for the first time. Its working much better now! I even considered extended batteries, but I don't think I'll need them anymore.
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cruud said:
Turn off Google Music Auto Sync
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I have the Vibrant and am seeing massive battery drain all of a sudden. I too have recently installed Google Music. Music upload from my PC is finished. Hasn't made any difference to the battery. I don't see any option to turn off Auto Sync in the Android app and in the settings. Where is this option?
Accounts and sync>Google account
Music sync will be in there.
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Accounts and sync>Google account
Music sync will be in there.
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Oh! It was in the google account! I thought that was just for gmail and didn't look there. But it makes sense. Thanks!
Strangely, I don't see any battery drain today. I haven't been using my phone. I just wanted to monitor it (using Android Assistant) to see what app was using the most battery. Yesterday, without any use, the battery completely ran down. Today, it's down 13% since morning. And I have been gradually adding background processing, GPS etc.
I was wondering is someone can help me. I've been using Deck's ROM's for the HTC EVO 4G for some time now and I hear about all these guys getting 20-30 hrs of battery life. I'm currently on 1.2.1 and have never got probably more then 11 hours out of my battery life with heavy or mederate usage. I've updated all my radios, wimax, etc....I've tried different kernels, I've installed vipermod and undervolted, I have CPU profiles. I've installed a new 3F3D driver. I've tried the wake lock fixes and still nothing has changed. Am I missing something here to how these other guys can get that performance out of their batterys. I'd like to post this directly to his thread but this is my first post and I guess I need at least 10 posts. I'm a bit of a noob but can hold my own.
I run decks with tiamat kernel 4.0.5 and I get outstanding battery life. Give this a try then let me know how it works out. Check your accounts to see if anything is synching that's insignificant. Then check your apps update frequencies. Lastly, turn off all of the haptic feedbacks, animations, and effects. Live wallpapers kill a lot of battery too. You might also want to try enabling and disabling auto brightness to see which is more energy efficient. If your overall goal is great battery life, then a lot of the bells & whistles are pointless.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
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I run decks with tiamat kernel 4.0.5 and I get outstanding battery life. Give this a try then let me know how it works out. Check your accounts to see if anything is synching that's insignificant. Then check your apps update frequencies. Lastly, turn off all of the haptic feedbacks, animations, and effects. Live wallpapers kill a lot of battery too. You might also want to try enabling and disabling auto brightness to see which is more energy efficient. If your overall goal is great battery life, then a lot of the bells & whistles are pointless.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
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I've tried tiamat 3.3.7, 4.0.5, and 4.0.6 and have got the same results with all three. I've tested each and one of these over about a week period. Currently I am trying SavagedZen 2.2.1 and up til this morning it hasn't changed much. I've took off all auto syncs. All haptic feedbacks, animations, and effects have been turned off. Never use live wallpapers and have read that lighter wallpapers will conserve battery. Right now I have auto brightness off and down to about 35-40%. I did however just checked off data enabled about 2 hrs ago and seem to have got better battery since. So far I'm at 82% with about 4 hours of moderate use. (mostly texting and surfing the web). I didn't know if there was any other tweaks internally that I'm missing or if it's more of a puzzle with what combinations to use.
Just saw my background data was enabled. I unchecked that as well. We will see how this goes I guess.
It seems like it's definitely data related. I downloaded skype from one of the forums strait to the phone and my battery percentage went from 79% to 68% just for the duration of the download. Is this common?
Do you use an SBC kernel? Have you whipped battery stats in recovery? Have you tried using the kernel governors (smartass, powersave, conservative) without setcpu?
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
amase005 said:
It seems like it's definitely data related. I downloaded skype from one of the forums strait to the phone and my battery percentage went from 79% to 68% just for the duration of the download. Is this common?
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No, not with a rom as good as Decks.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
BluInception3 said:
Do you use an SBC kernel? Have you whipped battery stats in recovery? Have you tried using the kernel governors (smartass, powersave, conservative) without setcpu?
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
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I have used kernels with SBC and without and haven't seen much difference besides the initial 10% loss of battery. I usually I wipe cache, Dalvik cache, and battery stats everytime I flash a new ROM in recovery. I usually do a factory restore too. I've used smartass and savaged zen as governers as well. Currently I'm using savagedzen governer with a max at 1036 and a min at 245. I also calibrate the battery when i flash a new ROM. Currently I'm standing at 60% battery with about 7hrs and 37 min on battery. Probably the best battery life I've seen. I'm still seeing massive drains when I use 3G. I was just on xda forums on my phone for about 5 min. and the battery went from 65% to 60%. If I turn 3G off it stands idle for awhile.
I'm scratching my head trying to think of what will help. You probably won't like this, but when my rom has me stumped with a problem, I wipe and start over. Maybe an extended battery is the answer? They are dirt cheap for the EVO now.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
Yea I was thinking about an extended battery as well. It seems like taking 3G off does wonders for the battery. Are you keeping yours on or off to get great battery life?
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amase005 said:
I have used kernels with SBC and without and haven't seen much difference besides the initial 10% loss of battery. I usually I wipe cache, Dalvik cache, and battery stats everytime I flash a new ROM in recovery. I usually do a factory restore too. I've used smartass and savaged zen as governers as well. Currently I'm using savagedzen governer with a max at 1036 and a min at 245. I also calibrate the battery when i flash a new ROM. Currently I'm standing at 60% battery with about 7hrs and 37 min on battery. Probably the best battery life I've seen. I'm still seeing massive drains when I use 3G. I was just on xda forums on my phone for about 5 min. and the battery went from 65% to 60%. If I turn 3G off it stands idle for awhile.
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Lowering your max and min cpu frequencies will improve your battery life. I've always used 128 MHz as a min with no ill effects. Ever since I got my evo I've kept the max at 998 MHz and it was plenty fast, but I am currently trying out 691 MHz max and it seems just as snappy so far (battery life was great at 998 MHz max for low or moderate usage, but with heavy usage I've noticed it drains too fast). I'll probably try out some lower max frequencies to see how low I can go without affecting performance.
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Yea I was thinking about an extended battery as well. It seems like taking 3G off does wonders for the battery. Are you keeping yours on or off to get great battery life?
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Use JuiceDefender to automatically toggle your data connection (3g/1x) off when the screen is off. This will dramatically improve your battery life especially when you're in areas with poor signal. If you want, you can set it to turn on the data connection at user-defined intervals so emails, google voice, and anything else that needs a data connection to be refreshed periodically can go through. With the paid version, you can even allow exceptions for programs like google music, pandora, or wireless tether, so they can keep the connection while the screen is off if they're in use.
Ill try juicedefender. I had it before but didn't really know what settings to use. Current battery is doing well. I'm curious to if all these people experiencing 20-30 hrs of battery life have data turned off a alot. I'm currently at about 14 hrs. with about 42 percent left. Thanks for all ur advice.
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amase005 said:
Ill try juicedefender. I had it before but didn't really know what settings to use. Current battery is doing well. I'm curious to if all these people experiencing 20-30 hrs of battery life have data turned off a alot. I'm currently at about 14 hrs. with about 42 percent left. Thanks for all ur advice.
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I can easily get over 40 hours with light usage and over 20 hours with moderate usage, but that's only because of JuiceDefender. Without it, my battery drains like crazy at work where there's really bad reception.
I use the customize profile with mobile data enabled, schedule enabled at a frequency of 30 min, and apps enabled when the screen is off for google music, pandora, and wireless tether. I also enable the text notification which puts the icon in the status bar. I've run into problems when I disabled notification where JD gets shut down in low memory situations, but having the icon in the status bar prevents that. I leave wifi, location, and night mode diabled, but that's just because they're not useful for my usage. I'm sure the other profiles work fine as well, but I just like knowing and controlling exactly what JD is going to do.
Try using saveged Zen with conservative governer, viper mod and other little things people have mentioned
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I can easily get over 40 hours with light usage and over 20 hours with moderate usage, but that's only because of JuiceDefender. Without it, my battery drains like crazy at work where there's really bad reception.
I use the customize profile with mobile data enabled, schedule enabled at a frequency of 30 min, and apps enabled when the screen is off for google music, pandora, and wireless tether. I also enable the text notification which puts the icon in the status bar. I've run into problems when I disabled notification where JD gets shut down in low memory situations, but having the icon in the status bar prevents that. I leave wifi, location, and night mode diabled, but that's just because they're not useful for my usage. I'm sure the other profiles work fine as well, but I just like knowing and controlling exactly what JD is going to do.
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I'm going to run JD all day today with those settings to see what it does for battery life with my data on. Yesterday seemed to be the best battery life I've recieved with data off for the majority of the day. Got about 17 hrs with 39% left. I'm happy with that. If JD can get me something like that without having to toggle with data on/off that will be nice.
Crossrocker said:
Try using saveged Zen with conservative governer, viper mod and other little things people have mentioned
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I've run viper mod with tiamat before and undervolted 50mv with little or no change in the overall performance of the battery. Any suggested settings for savaged zen using viper mod?
Undervolt as much as you can, all phones are different. As for jd, sorry I forgot about that. It's a HUGE improvement. Your battery can pretty much double. It can be a little annoying in some cases.
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Didn't really get to do a full trial on battery life yesterday. I downloaded a Sense Rom and tried some troubleshooting that I read on Deck's page but it didn't work. Today will be the first full day I try JD with 3G on. I will probably try viiper mod tomorrow after the results I get for today. Thank for the help guys.
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Didn't really get to do a full trial on battery life yesterday. I downloaded a Sense Rom and tried some troubleshooting that I read on Deck's page but it didn't work. Today will be the first full day I try JD with 3G on. I will probably try viiper mod tomorrow after the results I get for today. Thank for the help guys.
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You can't judge in one day.. you have to wait like 3 days of use to let it settle down
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.
I believe I have found what i belive is just about the perfect setup for this ROM
My evo is lightning fast, in app performance is almost comparable to my xoom
And with heavy usage my battery lasts at least twenty hours
Kernel: savaged Zen 2.2.1 bfs
Setcpu info: Max clock to 1136, try 1152 if 1136 is stable for Max clock, min 245. Savaged Zen governor, screen off profile with interactivex governor and min bumped to 384mhz. Eliminates all screen on lag
Market app: chainfire 3d its a graphics driver that increases all animations, 3d effects efficiency and speed, and improves battery life IMO follow in app instructions and install the driver, make sure to nand backup first and to not have the phone connected to the charger or computer when installing
Market app: battery calibration wipes battery stats to build new ones that are correct for your ROM kernel setup
Advanced setting in settings menu: performance settings, VM heap size set to 48
Market app : SD booster set SD cache to 3000 makes all SD apps and media faster.
Market app : busy box install 1.18.4
After all this install any user apps you wish and run fix permissions in ROM manager or recovery
Its a lengthy setup, but there is much profit to be had. This setup is faster then I've ever seen an evo run and has the best battery life of any ROM kernel combo I've tested.
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Hey all,
I was running Tiamat 4.1.0 and really loved the extended battery life, in both stand-by and day-to-day moderate use. However, there was only one problem that made me switch to SZ, is that I couldn't get USB Tethering to work with Tiamat. As soon as I flashed to SZ, it started working.
Now, problem with SZ is that is draining my batter like mad, and I have no idea wtf is going on. Stand-by seems ok, but once I start using my phone (email, facebook, downloading apps, playing words with friends, etc.), batter is draining like crazy before my eyes, could go from to 60 to 50 in like 5 mins.
I am using default settings, using CM's governor on conservative, never changed any CPU settings. Screen brightness is very low.
Again, Tiamat was wonderful with the batter, but it seems SZ is being very greedy on my battery.
I flashed SZ 2.2.1-CFS-HAVS and using SZVManager app to disable SBC.
Anyone having similar issues? Or can provide tips or hints on why this might be happening?
Thanks.
edit: I know I haven't done any conclusive testing, this is just pure observation, but I am pretty positive that SZ is draining way more battery when in-use than Tiamat.
You don't want to disable SBC, for one thing and get her it fully charged, wit the Sbc kernel, and then do a calibration. I have a good method in my guide (in my signature)
I recently flashed CM9 3.x kernel rc3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461 ) and installed playerpro. And when I listen to songs phone overheats and battery drain is through the roof. Display is eating almost 90% of battery even though its off. Any idea anyone?
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I recently flashed CM9 3.x kernel rc3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461 ) and installed playerpro disabled google play. And when I listen to songs phone overheats and battery drain is through the roof. Display is eating almost 90% of battery even though its off. Any idea anyone?
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display always eats all the battery, that's normal behavior. Try taking it off full brightness or automatic brightness and set a level yourself. Dimmer is better. Overheating due to overclocking, usually, check what speed you're running at.
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display always eats all the battery, that's normal behavior. Try taking it off full brightness or automatic brightness and set a level yourself. Dimmer is better. Overheating due to overclocking, usually, check what speed you're running at.
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Display is off when playing music so display shouldn't eat 90% of battery. Plus I noticed that it isn't only Playerpro. I tried Apollo music player and it also give that issue.
I'm having battery issues. I am normally getting 2 hours SOT maximum, which reduced to 1h30 over time. I did a factory reset (still on stock android) and flashed ElementalX kernel to downclock the cpu/gpu, to hopefully save some juice, but it didn't change much. It looks like my phone is never going to sleep or doze and is depleting battery at a steady rate while not in use.
Here is a screenshot album: imgur.com/a/dezhr
Some **** won't let phone enter Doze, you can see Awake (screen off) line in Better Battery Stats. It means, that although screen is off, phone is still fully awake - probably an app syncing in background.
IMHO it's Google Play, not sure though. Try reflashing current ROM build and newer GApps, while keeping all data.
It looks like it was Facebook Messenger that was running constantly in the background.. Once I killed the app, the power stopped dropping. Also it seems that turning off the wifi helped a bit too (since there was no wifi available).