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is there a way we can unlock the stock 2.2 and root?
Legendary126 said:
is there a way we can unlock the stock 2.2 and root?
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Let the flaming begin!!!!!
No...when it happens you'll know. Otherwise just search.
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yep, paypal me $100 and ship me youre phone, you'll get it back in 7-14 business days.
tgruendler said:
Let the flaming begin!!!!!
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I think the all the flaming is being directed at the moron who posted a thread in the dev section telling the developers that they should stop updating roms and find root for froyo cuz "half of the people here" are stuck. Gimme a break. Sorry, kind of off topic but I'm still venting.
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dglowe343 said:
I think the all the flaming is being directed at the moron who posted a thread in the dev section telling the developers that they should stop updating roms and find root for froyo cuz "half of the people here" are stuck. Gimme a break. Sorry, kind of off topic but I'm still venting.
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hes right, who needs all these stupid romzzzz we need m0ar [email protected] for fr33 w1f1 t3th3r. w00t
bum bum bummm!!
Gosh...when I read the title of this thread, this is what went through my head:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lXdyD2Yzls
nenn said:
hes right, who needs all these stupid romzzzz we need m0ar [email protected] for fr33 w1f1 t3th3r. w00t
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This cracked me up. One of many reasons I keep my mouth shut since I'm not a developer.
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The YouTube link made me laugh.
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NO.
Seriously, please search or look at the pinned threads next time, never mind that this is in the wrong section.
Seems to me some people need to get out and get themselves some instead of being upset over dopey questions.
If you find yourselfgetting p.o.ed and losing sleep over questions being asked about a phone? You're not right in da head. lol
dglowe343 said:
I think the all the flaming is being directed at the moron who posted a thread in the dev section telling the developers that they should stop updating roms and find root for froyo cuz "half of the people here" are stuck. Gimme a break. Sorry, kind of off topic but I'm still venting.
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Why would you need to vent or flame to a person who really will have no impact on telling devs what to do?
BTW... I love it when people post this question fresh for the first time. Half the time I think they are doing it to get a rise out of the people with no penises.
Maybe someone found root, they just want to see how people piss and wine about what we can't have yet, relaxe people! it's coming.
can i do and upgrade and not loose my root
can i do and upgrade to froyo 2.2 and not loose my root on a rooted supersonic 2.1 rom
build 1.47.651.1 kernel v.2.6.29-789bf291 thanks !
sleepy926 said:
can i do and upgrade to froyo 2.2 and not loose my root on a rooted supersonic 2.1 rom
build 1.47.651.1 kernel v.2.6.29-789bf291 thanks !
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technically you're in the wrong section, but since i have a soft-spot for noobies, i'll help.
you need to look in the development section and(if you are already rooted) install one of the many 2.2 froyo roms. this is your best bet. good luck!
edufur said:
Why would you need to vent or flame to a person who really will have no impact on telling devs what to do?
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I wasn't worried it would affect the developers. But myself and the other mob of people felt the need to respond to a post that disrespectful to the developers. He made it sound like they're here to do what we ask. They do this for free and don't deserve pushy demanding crap like that. I overlook a lot of stupid posts but I couldn't let that one go.
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I've got a question. I know there is still no way to root 2.2 so please don't freak out. My question is does anyone know if any developer has made any ground at all or does it just not seem possible?
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Tiffany84 said:
I've got a question. I know there is still no way to root 2.2 so please don't freak out. My question is does anyone know if any developer has made any ground at all or does it just not seem possible?
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Go watch the sticky. The Unrevoked team is posting there every once in while.
What is the stickey?
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So, as we approach the fork on the road, one leading towards the EVO 3D and the other towards the Samsung Galaxy SII, many users are left waiting to see which one of these beasts will pick up more development heat. Like myself, many folks are completely split and are solely depending on this little bit of information.
Therefore, I ask, out of developers that have made the EVO the great device that it is, where are you headed?
I KNOW THIS THREAD MIGHT BE UNCONVENTIONAL FOR THIS SECTION OF THE FORUMS, BUT PLEASE CONSIDER LEAVING IT HERE AS IT WILL BE EASIER IN GETTING THE ATTENTION OF DEVELOPERS OVER REGULAR USERS. THANKS!
Yeah just read an article today about the 3d apparently having a crypto signed bootloader. Not much developing going on with that... Without an eng leak anyhow...turned me off of it for a bit. Not that I'm a dev, I consider myself a themer really.
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I hope they are heading to a place where people don't post questions in the Development section like the rules in the sticky state.
Check out htc facebook page today, it may give you a clue...
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lol you guys are so scared of an MD5 encrypted bootloader...
oh wait... yea me too
it WILL be cracked, im sure there'll be some sort of algorithm to counteract it. if not, after 1 year, HTC is forced to release everything
Anxious to see responses from Netarchy, Vaelek, cyanogen, Toast, Flipz, Shinzul... etc.
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Anxious to see responses from Netarchy, Vaelek, cyanogen, Toast, Flipz, Shinzul... etc.
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So is everyone that voted thus far really a "developer?" On another note, CM would likely be developed on both if a) the HTC bootloader is cracked, b) the GS2 isn't the same POS the GS1 is.
I am interested in the results of this poll as well.
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So is everyone that voted thus far really a "developer?"
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Obviously not, but you know, there are always those %&$* out there. (BTW, the votes are public, so you can see where those that matter are leaning towards.)
I just figured some of the true developers will see this and guide us in a particular direction. Don't blame me for trying.
I will be getting a EVO 3D without a doubt. Bootloaders can be cracked. Might have to buy XTC to see if we can root that way. It's like the gold card method. Either way, the EVO 3D will be a mind blower and WILL be rooted.
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I will be getting a EVO 3D without a doubt. Bootloaders can be cracked. Might have to buy XTC to see if we can root that way. It's like the gold card method. Either way, the EVO 3D will be a mind blower and WILL be rooted.
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Please vote!
From HTC's Facebook page:
Thanks so much for providing feedback, we hear your concerns. Your satisfaction is a top priority for us and we're working hard to ensure you have great experiences with our phones. We're reviewing the issue and our policy around bootloaders and will provide more information soon. Thank you for your interest, support and willingness to share your feedback.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084
Fwiw I didn't vote, just responded in thread...
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evomattnc said:
Fwiw I didn't vote, just responded in thread...
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If you're a developer, please contribute to the poll. Otherwise, comment away!
Tmartin is in which is awesome so far lol
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I am going to get one also. I know the devs will have it cracked in days if not hours.
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I am getting the 3D regardless of when it'll be rooted. I am currently running stock on my OG EVO anyway. I am sure it wont hurt to go without root for a little while and have a far superior phone than the samjunk.
I'm not a dev yet, but I think if I gave myself some time I could do it. I already mod ROM's to my liking and I am a programmer. But college life usually gets to me lol I was thinking sometime this Summer to cook my own ROM up; if time permitted. If that happens then I will dev for the Evo 4G.
Unless I get some extra grant money lol then I'm not sure! A cell phone to dev is a college expense if you're a Computer Science major right
akarol said:
I KNOW THIS THREAD MIGHT BE UNCONVENTIONAL FOR THIS SECTION OF THE FORUMS, BUT PLEASE CONSIDER LEAVING IT HERE AS IT WILL BE EASIER IN GETTING THE ATTENTION OF DEVELOPERS OVER REGULAR USERS. THANKS!
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It's sad that the mods are on such a witch hunt that you even have to put that there. IMHO this is *exactly* the type of post that should be in the /dev section... along with 10-20 other daily posts that are direct questions to/for developers.
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It's sad that the mods are on such a witch hunt that you even have to put that there. IMHO this is *exactly* the type of post that should be in the /dev section... along with 10-20 other daily posts that are direct questions to/for developers.
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werd 10char
Just wondering really? they keep getting locked for off-topic, when general is a pretty wide topic... i would think anything pertaining to the epic that isnt a question or a development, should go there... maybe im wrong??
Exactly... moderators really need to do a MUCH better job at communication. I have sent PM's and do not get responses, so please explain moderators.
they only communicate by banning and closing threads.. theimpaler was one of the few mods here that could communicate... the rest put this place on auto pilot and ban/mod without reading or communicating and half the time without thinking...
Thank you
Thanks Chris for speaking up for the new people around. Means a lot
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I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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JohnCorleone said:
I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.
thomasskull666 said:
Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.
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Hopefully the mods get this under control because we are losing some of our kindest and most helpful devs. Also, what the flamers fail to realize is they are only hurting the rest of the community because a lot of the developers, themers, and testers are just choosing to communicate via G-Talk anyway. Its truly sad that developers spend hours, days, and weeks of their free time, often working all night long to provide their great projects, and they seem to get less respect than someone who spreads nothing but negativity and provides no help whatsoever.
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superpaperman said:
+1, I'm a noob and I know that...
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Well welcome. You would be surprised by some of the things you see posted around here.
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Lets keep it in one place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177144
Once again they ruined it for us all! R.I.P. to the Frosty JB rom thread. It will be missed. Salute.
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Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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akindbro4u said:
Can not believe that crap. DJ gave us thr on ly rom I truly liked, and little childish crap forced him to close his thread. He came back to us once. Not going to happen this time. Will sure mis my regular frosty updates
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I'm gonna miss them as well. Smdh. I'm currently looking for a new rom for my S3.... sad but true.
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That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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And all over battery life. Mine us great, but even have had bad days where battery just drained. To many factors to say its the rom. And why argue it there. I dont undersrand sone people. They just want a fight.
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It was the fact that 5 people were commenting on the same darn thing that wasn't even related to the rom. That's what PMing is for bros.
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I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also have great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
What was the persons name that insulted DJ, I'll get 'em... I think DJ will be back, he loves this way too much, one way or another he'll be back.
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I couldn't post on the original tred and I wanted to say that frosty rom is the smoothest rom of all for me with no problems at all of any kind and I tried them all. It behaves the way just I want it. Thank you Mr. Dev and god bless you.
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bigtom624 said:
I agree. I was using Wicked for a long time and decided to give Frosty a try, and I loved it. I have been using it for a few weeks now and I also had great battery life with it. I will keep using it for a while. Hopefully DJ will come back.
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Same here man frosty was my favorite rom. I didn't even realize this happened until I just saw this thread. Major bummer
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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So he took his ball and went home. Don't worry about the thousands that love your work and your ROM (myself included by the way), just the handful that criticize it.
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Bold words that speak the truth in a harsh way. Wurd!!!!
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I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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jenaltals said:
That really shows the type of people that go through the forums. Once they installed their first 2 or 3 roms and kernels, and looked through 4 pages of android development, they feel they know everything. I really wish dj could leak that final Frosty rom update one day...
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Nooooooooo!!! Hope not. I've been using XDA forever. I'm not a Dev or a noob, but I contribute my findings and help when I can!
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Bass_Man25 said:
I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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They should! Lol 80 percent of these people dont even know what root means
Rule #1 Respect the Devs. Rule #2 Refer back to Rule #1
scooter247 said:
I am saddened by what has gone down. I remember a time when post where constructive and not a pissing match. Unfortunately with more and more people come here and join the chances of this happening grows.
I know the frustration of seeing someone complain about something know to be issues or someone thinking it's a problem with the rom when no one else has issues. Just remember we where all noobs at one time or another and remember that one person that helped you out with something vs the person that flamed you for not knowing.
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I was that at one point also, when the G1 came out and JesusFreke was making roms, and people had to use ADB to obtain root and be able to flash things. I learned since then and read and read and read. The problem now a days is that most don't care to read a little, or at all. Most of the questions asked in a thread are answered, or been discussed, or don't even belong in the dev section. This is extremely aggravating to the devs, or themers, when they right up a huge OP and no one uses it, and just clutters up their dev thread with useless questions and/or nonconstructive criticism. I don't blame him for quitting or locking the thread, if people feel it's at its prime, then leave it alone and don't touch it anymore. Most of the TouchWiz roms have the best version yet to come, or they came and went a while ago. Most of the mods they incorporated are flashable on your own, anyways. Thank him and respect decisions, or use one of the other 10+ TouchWiz roms.
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I'm seeing the same thing happening in other development threads, and my fear is that it's going to force the XDA mods to lock the entire site to developers only.
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Haha don't exaggerate while there are a few dummies out there, most of us are well behave at the end of the day we are the consumers.
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Jesusfreke was the pioneer of modding for Android. Without him I believe that we would not be as far with android as devs, manufacturers, or even android its self.
Look at thouchwiz its self with the toggles in the notification Window. This came from cm. We the community can end up pushing for devs with true innovation to go back underground where their work is not seen in mass people, Google, or manufacturers. Then android may end up missing what could become greatness all for petty arguments. I follow one such dev in a private forum and it's a shame he was forced to by thing like this.
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Hey guys,
I let this thread go for awhile (I was logged on when he created it) and you all have said your piece/peace, in an almost professional manner which I for one appreciate very much. But now it is time for this OT thread to be closed. I do invite you to the Official OT thread to continue this discussion, as a few have already been doing.
Thanks you for being civil about it, but the time for this thread has expired.
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I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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djtheraven said:
I would love it if every rom posting would go back to the format of what is working and not...it is hard to keep flashing roms just to see what is working or not...plus I'm sure I'm wearing out my phone flashing 5 roms in a day just to find out they all have the same flaws or not or even if it was fixed..ie does video calling work, or hml, or any other feature that this phone can normally do...remember when devs use to have 2 lists in the op and pictures so you could window shop for your rom and not have to spend the time downloading, wiping and flashing just to restore your nandroid because you don't like the look or the fact some things don't work...it would really help and it only takes a couple of minutes.....thank all of you for your time and development of this device...
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Although I agree, your going tone other get zero response or (and more probable) catch flack about being demanding.
While typically, the android community development is free, everyone has became accustomed to the idea that eta's, change logs, working/not working lists are simply below them. Perhaps in their eyes it is. What I would like to remind everyone is this...time isn't limitless, and can be very valuable to some. If you don't like the community feedback (ie. Asking for these lists; small stuff) than maybe you should just (loosely) develop and/or cook ROMs for your own personal use. Xda is a community... A community built on knowledge, user base, and the good ol' boy system.
Just remember what we are here for. We all own a T989 and want to make our devices outlast even the newer models.
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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The point I'm trying to make is that it would stop cluttering up all the threads with people asking if stuff works all the time when they can just read the op... I see countless people asking if stuff works because they don't know...
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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You're assuming that people will read and thus not need to ask. As someone who spent over a year developing for the vibrant I couldn't even count the times that I either directed someone's questions to the op that contained the answer or just ignored the questions all together. Now as just an onlooker who casually flashes I read the op and if I don't see the answer I want I watch the thread and let others ask/answer or do my own research like checking out gerrit or just move on and find something else.
When I was building ROMs I would spend hours at the computer and by the time I got around to posting my work I may have forgotten one or two things so change logs were usually only partial.
Getting the latest software on your phone while free does take a little effort on the part of the user.
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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O and about the free thing I don't ask anyone to do this for us and I certainly don't expect it but if you are going do something for a lot of people than do it right...I do a lot of free things in my life...I'm a dj for 27 years in sfla and I have to spin for free most of the time because nobody wants to pay, but that doesn't mean that I am going to do a subpar job for all my fans just because I'm not going to get paid...I do it because I love it and if someone had a request I don't say well I'm doing this for free so too bad...I hate that argument you guys always use...and I donate where appropriate....
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I'm not asking for a change log just a simple list of what is working and not it's like 6 things and never really changes unless something is fixed...I think you guys are really missing the point...
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Have you ever touched computer code?
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Have you ever touched computer code?
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No but if you love to do it why complain...and what does that have to do with telling me if Bluetooth,etc is working?
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Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Koragg618 said:
Well the reason this is happening is because 4.2 just came out. People are curious to know what works and what doesn't. Devs haven't had enough time to check all of the glitches and bugs. Devs also rely on us for fixing bugs because they don't always have the time to do it.
As per the same questions being asked over and over, people simply don't know what the search button does.
And yeah :thumbup:
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Wow! Someone just makes a basic request and gives thanks to developers, and suddenly everyone is all over him and getting all defensive about developers feelings or something. How did it turn into this??
I kind of agreed with the request as far as how nice it might be to know pros and cons of each rom without reading through pages and pages of useless posts in the dev threads to find out each detail. It seems to me that most developers appreciate it when more people are using their rom (and obviously people appreciate the rom they're using) sooo...it might help people to understand what they're flashing and they might be more likely to flash a rom that they understand from a end-user point of view.
If developers don't want to add a list of what works and what doesn't to the OP, then they don't have to. If developers want to help flashers in their decision-making process (and likely boost the number of people using their rom), then adding such a list might help.
As far as I can tell, that's the end of the story.
So if the Op doesn't state what's working, then people have the right to clutter threads and annoy them, right? Its a win win situation, unless devs like being asked the same question a billion times. It could help keep the clutter to a minimum but its up to the devs. Not that I'm demanding a perfect op, but there are reasons as to why people ask and ask.
1. Too lazy to read.
2. Fast response wanted(see 1)
3. Op doesn't state what's working.
4. Search doesn't always help( at least for me on the xda app.)
5. People want a solution.
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OP, your post has been noted and understood. But so that there isn't any bashing/flaming happening, closing the thread, as I removed a couple "not needed" type of posts already in this thread.
Thank You.