So I unrooted my Evo because it's been having restart issues (I've done factory reset, flashed different roms, blah blah) and I want to bring it in to insurance. I was wondering though, if I do an OTA update to Gingerbread, will I be able to root again? I read that COULD permanently loose root if I do an OTA update after unrooting. Is this true?
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So I unrooted my Evo because it's been having restart issues (I've done factory reset, flashed different roms, blah blah) and I want to bring it in to insurance. I was wondering though, if I do an OTA update to Gingerbread, will I be able to root again? I read that COULD permanently loose root if I do an OTA update after unrooting. Is this true?
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That is true. There is no current root for the gingerbread ota. You will lose root.
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You say you've unrooted, but did you run the s on tool?
And just to clarify. Reason why it warns you that applying ota may lose root is because newer hboot may be include (which for this version is true, v 2.16). With new hboot devs need to find new exploit.
Also. If you have not run s on tool...it is completely safe to take ota. Try it out. Then flash older ota to get back to an older hboot. Btw. You need s off.
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I am rooted running cm6, but I was just wondering if installing the ota froyo update when it comes out will brick my phone or if it will just got back to being stock.
Thanka
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Both are a possibility, but bricking isn't likely
It is probable, almost definite, however that you will lose root
Also something to remember is that if you lose root from the OTA (VERY VERY likely) it is also very likely that current rooting techniques will not work to re-root your phone so you may be stuck stock for a while (could be weeks+)
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Also something to remember is that if you lose root from the OTA (VERY VERY likely) it is also very likely that current rooting techniques will not work to re-root your phone so you may be stuck stock for a while (could be weeks+)
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This will be the case if you lose root. The root for 1.47 used a vulnerability in flash lite if I'm not mistaken, and Froyo uses flash 10.1. Might be wrong, but that's what I'd assume.
is it even possible to perform the OTA update while using CM6?
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is it even possible to perform the OTA update while using CM6?
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I've heard that you can't do an ota firmware update if you're rooted (is this true?) If so, am I still able to do maintenance releases? Sprint just sent out a new one. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/240535#240535
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If your rooted you never do a ota or yours losing root
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Never ever do an OTA, if you're rooted.
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That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure >.> thanks!
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So the general consensus is not to do a OTA update if rooted because you will lose root.
OK, what if I dont mind losing root.
I am rooted (ive used the unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo method).
And I have never installed any custom ROMs.
(i.e. I am running on Stock. Not rooted Stock ROM! Just rooted Stock. Im not even sure if there is a difference but just wanted to say it so its clear.)
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
newtonetienne said:
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
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That is based on the assumption that there will be a guaranteed method to regain root user access on the device. It could take hours, days, weeks, months, or even never.
I would recommend flashing the stock 3.70 update for root users here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Now you still have the update, but you have retained root user access.
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update (i.e. actually through update and not flashed) my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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newtonetienne said:
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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Sorry novanosis85, i think my last post was a bit unclear.
I wanted to unroot, so I could apply the OTA update.
I guess I was trying to provide some feedback for others who may have similar questions like i did. Namely...
1. can I apply OTA when rooted? what i discovered was, "no" because the update process will discovery a custom recovery.
2. whats is required to be able to apply the OTA? s-on, and unroot procedure, then apply OTA. Update will indeed be applied but you will be unrooted.
Again, I hope this helps others.
dont dooo it! ull lose root
Wheres the guy with the zombie thread pic when you need him? I thought another ota was out
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Hi, I was wondering if there was any way to flash the official ota for Gingerbread after it comes out. Since I'm am temp rooted I will miss the official ota. I already know there are leaked versions of gingerbread but I would rather wait for the official release.
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well if you ar temp rooted, you might as well finish and perm-root . BUT, you would have to revert back to stock when it does get officially released. itll either brick your phone if you try to update to it, or itll just unroot your phone. you might as well just flash Rmk40's Glite which is the rooted stock rom and you can overclock, and itll be alot faster.
Stock vs Rooted
i would say go with rmk's as well. But I'm not really a fan of stock gingerbread.
Just root already. You won't be sorry.
If you intend on still being able to temp root, or root for that matter, you don't want to install the OTA. Its not rootable, temp or perm, and would need to be downgraded to an older ROM in order to do so.
Once the ota come I won't care about rooting, but will someone post the official ota on xda when it come out?
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keithalan said:
Once the ota come I won't care about rooting, but will someone post the official ota on xda when it come out?
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Why are you temp rooting?
The official Gingerbread OTA was already posted a while ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074391
So my wifes phone is rooted with s off. When she receives her update will she be able to update and then I can just reinstall Su and CWM correct?
Thanks
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CWM will stop your phone from updating from the OTA.
It downloads fine, but when it tries to reboot to apply the update it looks for the stock recovery. You'll need to go back to stock recovery before you update.
Going back to stock requires that you use the RUU found here which will bring you back to stock recovery correct, but you will still retain S-OFF.
Running the RUU WILL keep S-OFF. But on dougpiston's site there is also a stock recovery you can flash in hboot if you don't want to run the RUU. I haven't used it though. So I can't really say anything about it.
That should work, S-Off/S-On settings are only changed by Unrevoked apps.
The RUU should restore your bootloader, OS, and recovery back to factory.
If that doesn't work, I use the zip files off of dougpiston.com to recover my phone.
Final question. If I apply the RUU will it wipe her phone or will she retain all her apps and such.
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Final question. If I apply the RUU will it wipe her phone or will she retain all her apps and such.
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The RUU will wipe EVERYTHING! It takes it back to factory settings. Out of the box. Minus S-OFF anyway.
I have a ROM Manager restore point with stock froyo, but rooted. If I restore to this, will I be able to get the OTA gingerbread update?
Why do you all want to receive the ota? Just wait until a devs gets it and makes a rooted flashable zip. Updating the ota will s-off and make you unrootable. Then your gonna be stuck with the crapware Verizon tries to force down our throats. The will be nothing special with the ota except the 50 mb of wasted space for crapware. Just hold on to your shorts and let the devs do their work!
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that won't do anything to recovery, you must flash the RUU, or something similar to get back to stock and for it to work.
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abtxpress said:
Why do you all want to receive the ota? Just wait until a devs gets it and makes a rooted flashable zip. Updating the ota will s-off and make you unrootable. Then your gonna be stuck with the crapware Verizon tries to force down our throats. The will be nothing special with the ota except the crapware. Just hold on to your shorts and let the devs do their work!
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benefits that i mainly want is the tv out (no real use for that anyway, since i'm not the kind of person who watches tv, let alone 80% of the time i moderatly use my phone.
I'm sure there will be a way to get the tv out being rooted.
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benefits that i mainly want is the tv out (no real use for that anyway, since i'm not the kind of person who watches tv, let alone 80% of the time i moderatly use my phone.
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Gingerbread update on stock rooted Incredible
Let me know guys when you have it figured out, I am willing to wait so I don't mess up this awesome phone ...
Thanks !!
The stock roms in the dev section are rooted... they have TV out
So i have ics rooted with the snapdragon program. JB is coming out soon so if I am rooted and I get the update what will happen to my root? If the root will go away what is another option to upgrade to Stock JB and also have root?
There are various threads on this topic. You will lose root if you upgrade. You can always root again afterwards. Our you can use rootkeeper. But I'm not sure if it will work.
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You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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mymusicathome said:
You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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I am already on stock and all my bloat is there nothing has been frozen, but otherwise u are saying root will remain? and also if i upgrade with the root can i get the phone bricked and will i loose any of my data?
When update is released back up your data to sdcard, remove card, run update via kies (I assume as this was the way my s2 skyrocket received updates) and then root again. Getting root back will not be an issue. We are still a week or 2 away... until then sit tight
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