Hey There,
I've seen the pinout for the original Galaxy Tab, does anyone know if this one is the same?
Or if not, anyone know where I could find a pinout for the thing? I might try calling Samsung but I have no idea how much time that will take or if its worth it.
Also, anybody know where to source the raw connectors?
Thanks!
Pinout should be the same since cables and accessories for the 7" work with the 10.1 as well
Here is the thread that has the Tab pinout
Cool, thanks. Now I just need to source that connector...
I would assume some pins are the same but expect many have changed. Since our device has HDMI and USB hosting, there are probably some differences. I would love to be able to make or buy a breakout cable that had everything possible out of it. Right now all the official accessories look to do only one thing at a time.
And I have beef with any accessory that calls themselves a media dock and then doesn't have multimedia outputs. Had to get that out there
Well,
I finally found a source for some connectors:
http://www.kineteka.com/galaxy-tab-connector.aspx
and they have a breakout board:
http://shop.kineteka.com/products/200-samsung-tabbreakout.aspx
I've ordered one of each and will report back.
They clearly say "Galaxy Tab" and not Galaxy Tab 10.1, but if its the same connector, it should be fine.
Though I agree that our unit most likely has more outputs. It would be really nice to figure out what those are! I have a thread at the Samsung Innovator website about it:
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/...ate=&endDate=&searchTypeForm=&searchTextForm=
But I feel like they won't tell us. I may have to buy the USB host adapter and the HDMI adapters and crack them open.
Anyway, I'll try to figure this out. If anyone else knows, please fill me in!
-Taylor
In the kernel, drivers/accessory/30pin_con.c:
if (acc_adc != false) {
if ((2600 < acc_adc) && (2800 > acc_adc)) {
env_ptr = "ACCESSORY=OTG";
acc->current_accessory = ACCESSORY_OTG;
The acc_adc is the arbitrarily scaled resistor value on the ID pin. I think there might be a place in sysfs to read this out, so you could wire up a potentiometer and work out the real resistor value for this range (2600-2800). You can use ADBWireless to get a shell while you are messing with the connector.
Once in OTG mode, the USB D+/D- pins used by the sync cable should become USB host.
Ah, I was afraid of that, I know plenty of mobile devices work that way. I was really hoping it had two separate ports like some other tablets, so I can use my accessory and the USB host port at the same time. I may have to do some juggling then, grr.
Thanks for getting that info though! I'll try that with my breakout board when it comes in (if they ever ship the damn thing...).
In another post, a guy put 20K ohms between Pin 13 and Pin 15 and got the Tab to go into host mode. Then the following for the other pins
Pin 1 (GND)> Black
Pin 3 (D+) > Green
Pin 4 (D-) > White
Pin 6 (+5v)> Red
If anyone figures out how to get HDMI out, please share.
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Well the title says it all, did any of you guys/gals tried to use a micro-USB to HDMI cable to try and get tv-out of higher quality than current component cables?
I know some Samsung phones had that option(usb to HDMI) and I know android OS supports it, but many companies have been known for blocking this option however. Samsung themselves even offered the cable, but it is now out of stock.
Also, does anyone know where to get this cable for less than $30+? I would try it out but that price just seems like a rip-off!
Plus does anyone know where the restriction the manufacturer puts on usb to hdmi video output is lcoated at? (in the anroid OS parameters)
Thnx!
I believe the Captivate can only do TV out through the Headphone jack, not the micro USB prot. But don't quote me on that. Check out this video.
i read a review that said the phone could do tv out through micro usb to hdmi but the cable from samsung is too expensive and sold out to boot.
hollywould said:
I believe the Captivate can only do TV out through the Headphone jack, not the micro USB prot. But don't quote me on that. Check out this video.
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The Captivate can in fact produce TVout via a MicroUSB - to - HDMI cable. You just need the cable and your good to go.
However some DRM Protected files may not play correctly on your TV
Samsung released a page with it on it. Its out of stock, but will be priced at $50! I think that's way too much, hopefully there will be cheaper options out there.
The samsung item is Product ID: ECC1HU0BBEBSTD
Does anybody know if the HDMI cable will power the phone at the same time as using it? I have read that the HDMI spec provides a 5V power supply and was wondering if that carried over with this cable (or correct me if I'm wrong on that). It doesn't sound like anybody has been able to find these cables anywhere yet, but I was just curious if I should be excited at the prospect or dismiss it entirely knowing that it'll kill the phone's battery...
gonna hafta pick up this cable sooon when its available...
I'll buy it if it works like the 3.5mm headphone jack video. IE, it displays anything, rather than just a few supported things.
Cheap deal
Found this while searching for that cable. Looks like you can get a replica cable for $3.60. Out of stock of course.
http://www.myluxphone.com/samsung-ecc1hu0bbebstd-tv-out-cable-micro-usb-to-hdmi.html
Also found the Samsung official one for $50 that is currently out of stock.
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...detail&subsubtype=data-cables-kits&returnurl=
pezx44 said:
Does anybody know if the HDMI cable will power the phone at the same time as using it? I have read that the HDMI spec provides a 5V power supply and was wondering if that carried over with this cable (or correct me if I'm wrong on that). It doesn't sound like anybody has been able to find these cables anywhere yet, but I was just curious if I should be excited at the prospect or dismiss it entirely knowing that it'll kill the phone's battery...
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The pictures of the cable show a port of some sort, on the HDMI end. It looks like there is a picture of a power plug just above the port. I'm guessing you can plug your micro-usb charger into the HDMI end, and charge your phone that way.
Quick thought on this guys. There's no proprietary magic going on so someone should try the micro to standard usb then get a usb to hdmi cable. I hate to string cables together but data is data and in lieu of waiting or paying 50 bucks, I'm gonna try a two adapter method. Probably cost 20 or less not 50.
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sevenvt said:
Quick thought on this guys. There's no proprietary magic going on so someone should try the micro to standard usb then get a usb to hdmi cable. I hate to string cables together but data is data and in lieu of waiting or paying 50 bucks, I'm gonna try a two adapter method. Probably cost 20 or less not 50.
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Give us a shout if it works then! Buy cheap from www.dealextreme.com
Try these this is the best place i have found for cables
http://www.monoprice.com/products/s...deo+Cables+-+Micro-HDMI/HDMI&keyword=usb hdmi
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Try these this is the best place i have found for cables
http://www.monoprice.com/products/s...deo+Cables+-+Micro-HDMI/HDMI&keyword=usb hdmi
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Need to pay better attention, those cables will not work. You need a microUSB to HDMI not a microHDMI to HDMI cable.
Thnx for replies, I also posted this on another android forum and it seems there are just no shops that currently sell it. I called couple of big suppliers and they all say that it should be arriving soon.
So it seems we just going to have to wait this one out.
$50 for a 2 ft cable makes even the ever so expensive rip-off cables from Monster Cable co. cry. lol
I was hoping this would work, I emailed Samsung to see what they had to say. Their response was not what I was hoping....
Hopefully its a case of the customer service rep not knowing anything. But its looking like these cables are only for some pmp style devices Samsung makes. It would be nice if someone can confirm this.
The way it sounds is if you want anything better than composite video out, you will have to use DLNA.
On Monday, August 2, 2010, SAMSUNG ERMS
> Dear XXXX,
> ****Thank you for your inquiry. The part number ECC1HU0BBEBSTD
> for a *Samsung TV Out cable is different.
> ****The part number of the Samsung TV Out cable for Galaxy
> S device is ECC1TX1BBEGSTA. If you need more information about this issue, you
> can log on to the Samsung.com.
> ****We also invite you to contact Samsung Customer Care
> at your earliest convenience through our toll free number 1-888-987-HELP (1-888-987-4357)
>
> ****Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung
> products.
> Sincerely,
> Technical Support
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Clockwork Mod Recovery
HI,
Off this subject, but I noticed you are running the Clockwork Mod Recovery on a Rooted Captivate. Can you point me in the right direction for accomplishing this?
Sharon
warri said:
The Captivate can in fact produce TVout via a MicroUSB - to - HDMI cable. You just need the cable and your good to go.
However some DRM Protected files may not play correctly on your TV
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This cable:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...subsubtype=data-cables-kits&tab=accCompatible
Is not compatible with the Captivate.
rkorzuch said:
This cable:
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...subsubtype=data-cables-kits&tab=accCompatible
Is not compatible with the Captivate.
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Samsung changed its tune about the cable working with the Vibrant and Captivate. So either they made a mistake and removed the cable from the page(s). Or they are going to announce the cable when they have the software to make it happen done.
They probably made a mistake, however on both captivate and vibrant seems slightly more unlikely.
Very fishy indeed, like always samsung is in some kind of a cover-up... in any way the guy I was talking to said they special ordered them and they have arrived now.
Here is the link...
www .cellularaccessory.com/ecc1hu0bbeb.html (remove spaces of course...)
Not much better than samsungs price but at least they have them in stock...
Someone should buy this and see if it works lol
Or you all can contribute a dollar or something and I wil lbuy it myself for testing.
I want to build a breakout cable with everything possible that the Tab can input and output. From another visitor of this forum I have gotten what is needed for USB hosting but I would like to know what is needed for HDMI out. If someone that gets this could crack it open for the world to see, it would be greatly appreciated.
And if you could go the next set to ohm out each pin, that would be fantastic!
ericlmccormick said:
I want to build a breakout cable with everything possible that the Tab can input and output. From another visitor of this forum I have gotten what is needed for USB hosting but I would like to know what is needed for HDMI out. If someone that gets this could crack it open for the world to see, it would be greatly appreciated.
And if you could go the next set to ohm out each pin, that would be fantastic!
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I think there's an HDMI transmitter chip inside the HDMI dongle. I'm pretty sure that's not something you want to tackle on your own. Better to try to add USB to the HDMI dongle instead.
The only thing you need for USB hosting is a 20k ohm resister. I have a few blank 30pin connectors on the way and I don't want to spend $40 to find out all I need is a 40k ohm resister and a switch.
so, anyone taken apart an MHL adapter yet?
i have a sneaking suspicion, that the move to an 11 pin is what will allow BOTH OTG, and MHL at the same time, but i could be wrong.
look inside your USB port on the bottom of the S3...
whatya see?
the normal 5 pins on the USB part.. but what is that in back wall? THE OTHER 6 PINS!
yep, that is why you cannot plug the MHL adapter into a hub or anything.. there is 6 pins are missing.
Now, i am wondering:
has anyone taken it apart to see if the 6 pins are used alone, or if it uses the the USB also?
if it uses only the 6 pins for MHL-ness, then it should more than possible to make an OTG/MHL adapter/dock.
more thought says, if my theory is right, an 11 pin to 5 pin conveter may be the key.. and an otg can be spliced in to give 2 outputs: MHL in one (using an s2 MHL adapter) and OTG in the other.....
anyone wanna tear their adapter up? or are you guys gonna make me spend some money?
I ran across this post looking to see if anyone has done this yet. I am going to try to grab the 5 to 11 tomorrow and tear it apart (since it's the cheaper adapter). My plan was to rip it apart and if the original 5 pins are available, splice just as you mentioned.
I can't find a decent picture of the microUSB plug to see if all pins are there.
Also I found this:
http://homixtech.en.alibaba.com/pro...Galaxy_S3_11pin_To_Micro_USB_5pin_Gender.html
Which makes me think 11 pin microUSB plugs that work are available out there somewhere.
cmbg78 said:
I ran across this post looking to see if anyone has done this yet. I am going to try to grab the 5 to 11 tomorrow and tear it apart (since it's the cheaper adapter). My plan was to rip it apart and if the original 5 pins are available, splice just as you mentioned.
I can't find a decent picture of the microUSB plug to see if all pins are there.
Also I found this:
http://homixtech.en.alibaba.com/pro...Galaxy_S3_11pin_To_Micro_USB_5pin_Gender.html
Which makes me think 11 pin microUSB plugs that work are available out there somewhere.
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I wait with baited breath... i REALLY think this is what is going on.
cmbg78 said:
I ran across this post looking to see if anyone has done this yet. I am going to try to grab the 5 to 11 tomorrow and tear it apart (since it's the cheaper adapter). My plan was to rip it apart and if the original 5 pins are available, splice just as you mentioned.
I can't find a decent picture of the microUSB plug to see if all pins are there.
Also I found this:
http://homixtech.en.alibaba.com/pro...Galaxy_S3_11pin_To_Micro_USB_5pin_Gender.html
Which makes me think 11 pin microUSB plugs that work are available out there somewhere.
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So, did you do this experiment? Has anybody found a way to get access to all of the pins and make OTG work with MHL?
I've been waiting for two months for an answer about this. I'm glad someone started a thread. I kind of have this hesitation to start new threads.
I would love it if this could be integrated with the seidio active dock.
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nightwinn said:
I've been waiting for two months for an answer about this. I'm glad someone started a thread. I kind of have this hesitation to start new threads.
I would love it if this could be integrated with the seidio active dock.
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I decided to take the plunge.... and have ordered a part to slice open. will update.
scarrmrcc said:
I decided to take the plunge.... and have ordered a part to slice open. will update.
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Thanks bro!, Ive been searching for the answer to this awhile as well.. I wonder not many people have brought this up. Ideally I would love to use my S3 as a "PC".
Check this out: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Edit: On another thread someone posted that they connected the USB OTG cable to the Micro USB port on the MHL adapter with no luck..hmm
romulusram said:
Thanks bro!, Ive been searching for the answer to this awhile as well.. I wonder not many people have brought this up. Ideally I would love to use my S3 as a "PC".
Check this out: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Edit: On another thread someone posted that they connected the USB OTG cable to the Micro USB port on the MHL adapter with no luck..hmm
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meh, I think that is wrong. many people have done exactly what it says you can do, and it doesn't work.
Makes me wonder if the boys at Samsung made a press mistake. If indeed you can't use both with the correct cable, then why make a port with 11 pins? Seems a waste of resources to me.
nightwinn said:
Makes me wonder if the boys at Samsung made a press mistake. If indeed you can't use both with the correct cable, then why make a port with 11 pins? Seems a waste of resources to me.
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I have never seen anything from samsung saying that MHL and OTG was possible.. just speculation in websites.
It better be possible because if not all Samsung's managed to do is make us buy hugely overpriced new MHL cables when they could have kept the old type, but I guess Samsung's made some decent money giving people no option but to buy £30 MHL cables.
I hope Monoprice really is working on a cable. 35-40 USD is more than I want to pay, especially if I get a couple and/or an HDMI dock.
Geordie Lad said:
It better be possible because if not all Samsung's managed to do is make us buy hugely overpriced new MHL cables when they could have kept the old type, but I guess Samsung's made some decent money giving people no option but to buy £30 MHL cables.
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+1
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Both the oem adapters are missing 2 data pins within the plug needed for simultaneous usb connectivity with mhl,I've ordered a Chinese alternative that I'm hoping will have all 11 pins,I'll report back If I have any success
neiliewheeliebin said:
Both the oem adapters are missing 2 data pins within the plug needed for simultaneous usb connectivity with mhl,I've ordered a Chinese alternative that I'm hoping will have all 11 pins,I'll report back If I have any success
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gracias amigo.
when you get 10 posts, so you can post links, can you come back and post what you got? then I shall order a different one.
we will find the perfect cable.
neiliewheeliebin said:
Both the oem adapters are missing 2 data pins within the plug needed for simultaneous usb connectivity with mhl,I've ordered a Chinese alternative that I'm hoping will have all 11 pins,I'll report back If I have any success
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Someone needs to find the resistor values first so the phone can use both simultaneously if it's even possible that is.
Geordie Lad said:
Someone needs to find the resistor values first so the phone can use both simultaneously if it's even possible that is.
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that would be key. I have sent out messages to people that may know, or may be able to find out, but i have not had success.
heck, If it can be done in the terminal (turning on items) i can make a shortcut that would do it.. but i have had no success with that either.
It's not possible I think.
You can use an MHL enabled tv wich powers MHL, (so you don't need the adapter) but how do you want to split that?
You can split the cables from the samsung adapter, so you have the MHL ones(6) and the usb ones(5).
But what then?
You need to connect the MHL ones to an hdmi cable, and connect it with an MHL enabled tv. And the usb ones to an usb port for OTG.
But will that even work with this S3?, because it is designed to get power from your charger via the extra usb port on the adapter.
Maybe it only works with the adapter, and not even with an MHl enabled tv...
I think somebody needs to connect the S3 to an MHL enabled tv, if that works you can modify the adapter and use the usb as OTG.
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Jeurum_92 said:
Values are already figured out, but both MHL and usb output at the same time is not possible I think.
You can use an MHL enabled tv wich powers MHL, (so you don't need the adapter) but how do you want to split that?
You can split the cables from the samsung adapter, so you have the MHL ones(6) and the usb ones(5).
But what then?
You need to connect the MHL ones to an hdmi cable, and connect it with an MHL enabled tv. And the usb ones to an usb port for OTG.
But will that even work with this S3?, because it is designed to get power from your charger via the extra usb port on the adapter.
Maybe it only works with the adapter, and not even with an MHl enabled tv...
I think somebody needs to connect the S3 to an MHL enabled tv, if that works you can modify the adapter and use the usb as OTG.
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I found (and shared) the MHL value, and we already know the OTG value.. but it only seems logical there is ANOTHER value to activate both at the same time. we are postulating, the the reasoning behind the 11 pin, is to allow both. If adding just an OTG cable turned on MHL too, it would cause issues without an MHL connection. and the same with MHL activating OTG, without an OTG device connected. like i said, this is postulation at the moment, but there SHOULD be a thrid value to enable both at the same time. that value would be used by a future peice of hardware that does a whole "PC MODE".
and if it does not exist, it CAN be done, we just need more "stuff" a way to enable a special switch if you will.
some people are saying you can connect straight to an MHL enabled TV, but that has not been done yet (and since there are no 11 pin MHL cables, that are not adapters, it seem unlikell that anyone will until said cable exists. the S3 cannot send MHL signal over the usb part, it has to be either the extra 6 pins, or with the 11 to 5 pin adapter.)
essentially, the pins are there, and with some special software, or a hidden resistor value as to yet, unfound, and some custom hardware (as of now NOTHING 11 pin, has 11 pins in it) it SHOULD be possible.
but there is nothing that has been found (hardware wise) that is even modifyable to work.... yet.
What I don't understand, why does MHL only work with the power connected?
They could easily make an MHL cable with the 11 pin, and hdmi. That should work for only MHL.
Only no go I can think is that MHL drains your battery because of always having your screen on, and the MHL output.
So they decided to use the adapter with power, otherwise you can't use MHL feature very long before your battery is empty
I think inside the adapter they only use the pins for giving power, and not the full 5 pin support for OTG, and therefore OTG doesn't work when you want to connect something.
Inside the ROM they have maybe build in something that MHL will only work when power is connected.
Maybe the solution is very simple,modify the adapter so full 5 pins are connected.
Is there any documentation or reverese engineering what the actual pinout of the four pogo connectors is?
Is it USB?
I had some ideas for some custom accessory tool which would need to communicate via USB and the dock connector would come in handy.
Already figured it out?
Hi! Have you already figured this out? I’m wondering the samen thing. I’ve stumbled upon a post where they have a pinout diagram of a nexus phone that has this pinout from left to right: (Ground, Left Sound, Right Sound, Positive) I’m not sure this is the same for the Tab S4 though..
Also if you watch “ Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.5" POGO Pin Charging Car Cradle (Landscape)” on youtube (I can’t share links on here yet) you’ll see that the outer pins are being used for power. So maybe the ground on the left and the positive on the right is correct. I don’t have my tablet yet, but will test this when it’s here!
If you already know the pinout can you please share it?
nope, I have not found a pinout yet...
On the weekend I tried to connect 5V to the connector, indeed it works. For me it is 5V on Pin 1 and GND on Pin 4 (Having the dock on the bottom, looking at the screen, pin 1 is the left one)
Unfortunately, I do not get USB connection... I assumed that the two middle pins are D+ and D- but I do not get USB connection in any orientation.
Anyone knows what kind of protocol is used on the dock?
sjorspolman said:
pinout diagram of a nexus phone that has this pinout from left to right: (Ground, Left Sound, Right Sound, Positive) I’m not sure this is the same for the Tab S4 though.
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@raph3ix Do you have a "Samsung EE-D3100 Charging Dock Pogo for Galaxy Tab S4 / Galaxy Tab A 10.5 2018 (EE-D3100TBEGWW)" to check this?
Hi All,
Long time listener but first time poster. I recently installed a Eonon ga6163f into a Mazda 3 and have a customer ROM image running after a load of reading and trial and error. All seems reasonably good considering the hardware isn't new nor that capable by todays standards. I am going for it and looking to include a DAB+ USB adapter. I do not have any HA to USB cables and aren't able to find a source for these. I will need to roll my own.
Would anyone be kind enough to share the USB pinout - maybe a close up photo of the cable on the HA side that plugs into the 'H' port of the ga6163f?
Any details of where each pin goes, such as if it is for USB1 or USB2.
I have only been able to find snippets of details but not enough to clearly figure out which port is USB1 or USB2 and the corresponding VCC, GND or data pins for each USB port. There also looks to be an RCAish looking lead in that cable bundle also. No idea what that one is for either but I don't think I'll be needing it.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,