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Froyo Orange

I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.

marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update

I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..

roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...

Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?

rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.

Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.

Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?

oh not bad!

Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.

bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

just reflash an older radio

bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?

Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .

dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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What do these different radio versions mean?

By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy

I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help

HTC Hero 2.1 3.3x RUU Files (India, RUS, WWE, HK WWE, Chunghwa)

Here are the HTC 2.1 Hero files.
These are not the OTA files. these are the signed RUU.exe files from HTC. This should help for people that are looking for these files.
THIS WILL UNROOT YOUR DEVICE, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Hero/RUU_Hero_Chunghwa_3.31.751.1_R2_Radio_63.18.55.06O_6.35.15.01_release_signed.exe
RUU_Hero_hTC_Asia_India_3.31.720.2_R_Radio_63.18.55.06O_6.35.15.01_release_signed.exe
RUU_Hero_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_3.34.721.1_R_Radio_63.18.55.06P_6.35.15.14_release_signed.exe
RUU_Hero_HTC_RUS_3.32.411.1_R_Radio_63.18.55.06P_6.35.15.14_release_signed.exe
RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_3.32.405.1_R_Radio_63.18.55.06P_6.35.15.11_release_signed.exe
Enjoy.

Pretty COOL, but how do you get these? since i cannot find them anywhere on HTC website.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Look at here
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Hero/

Did anyone try these RUU on a rooted HERO? Does it work at all?

lisiuc said:
Did anyone try these RUU on a rooted HERO? Does it work at all?
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Just tried it on a rooted hero, worked fine, it's now 2.1 HTC stock rom and everything seems to work fine (non-root).
(RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_3.32.405.1_R_Radio_63.18.55.06P_6.35.15.11_release_signed.exe)

ebbhead said:
Just tried it on a rooted hero, worked fine, it's now 2.1 HTC stock rom and everything seems to work fine (non-root).
(RUU_Hero_HTC_WWE_3.32.405.1_R_Radio_63.18.55.06P_6.35.15.11_release_signed.exe)
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thanks for sharing!

Just to further say, although this will just get ignored.
If you run one of these RUU's you will not only lose root, you will lose the ability to root ever again.

Lennyuk said:
Just to further say, although this will just get ignored.
If you run one of these RUU's you will not only lose root, you will lose the ability to root ever again.
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I know people who changed ROM via OTA to 2.1 and back to the 1.5 by flashing extracted parts of RUU via fastboot

The rom put out ota and the ruu are not quite the same rom.

Lennyuk said:
The rom put out ota and the ruu are not quite the same rom.
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Any idea on difference?
What one is better?

I believe HTC made some errors that could cause problems in the ota.
The actual roms itself are the same, however the RUU is harder/impossible to root.

Stupid question... but I wonder if these have the missing G-sensor calibration from the OTA's? (probably not)

thanks for the files! def needed these

I've tried the wwe one but I have a custm id error. What can I do now?

Thanks for these, exactly what I needed. Bought an import phone from China with the localized apps/language settings which I wasn't particularly fond of (Already 2.1 unrootable). Not too fussed about root just yet really

Hi!!
Can any1 please "RUU_Hero_hTC_Asia_India_3.31.720.2_R_Radio_63.18.55.06O_6.35.15.01_release_signed.exe" root this and convert to update.zip so can be used on rooted Hero?
Thanks...

nomnompie said:
Stupid question... but I wonder if these have the missing G-sensor calibration from the OTA's? (probably not)
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No it does not have G-sensor calibration.
But I must say, that after a day or so I'm impressed with this ROM. Wether it will be rootable in the future or not is another issue, but for now it's working very very nice. Speed & Battery is better than any of the custom roms I've tried (pretty much every rom there is...)

I'm looking for RUU HTC Hero Asia SEA 3.34.707.1. Does anyone have it? Does anyone know where to get it?

I am also lookign for RUU HTC Hero Asia SEA 3.34.707.1 I bought my phone from Malaysiya so I think Asia HK will not go directly withou gold card
I just used HK version and it goes directly to my malasian phone ))

Original HTC Rom

Hi Guys,
I recently rooted and put a custom froyo 2.2 rom onto my HTC Desire. In the process i must of lost the backup of the original rom that shipped with the phone. The phone was bought with Vodafone Ireland and the baseband is 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 . Im not sure but the guide i used to update my phone advised updating the radio (which i think is the same as the baseband). What i want to do is to download an original 2.1 (or 2.2) Rom so i can update to froyo the offical way. Basically the rom i currently have is buggy and i wanted to upgrade/downgrade to 2.1. I dont know what i need to do with my radio version or what difference it makes.
So my questions are:
1. Can someone link me a place i can download original HTC Desire Rom 2.1 so i can restore my phone to normal and upgrade to 2.2 through offical OTA?
2. What difference does the radio make? Why do i need to update that when i install a rom?
Thanks

oh and also if i put the original rom on it does that undo the rooting? Basically i want a stable version of 2.2 that i will be able to recieve updates in the future through offical methods (OTA)

i need this too

Look in the development section, there you can find RUU's those are original roms.

If u get an original ruu and follow instructions to install Froyo will be available for its system update. This includes an updated radio.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks, Does this get rid of rooting? and do i need to pick a RUU that has the same radio as mine?

this "Updates" your desire, making completely stock like, from what i know you have to choose what fits you phone, if it's Hboot .80 or that other one...
it will lock your recovery too...

hey sorry about all my noob questions but i tried the following page before
"HTC Desire > Desire Android Development > [ROM] Official HTC Desire RUU ROMS and OTA Update URL"
and any of the ones i tried dont seem to work. Is it someting to do with the fact that none of them are the same radio as mine?
Im guessing i should be trying the gsm ones. i tried to install some of the zips through rom manager from GSM HTC OTA Update URLs but they failed.

by "lock" do you mean that i will never be able to recover again and ya my hboot is .80

guys,
Can someone please help with this, im really stuck.
Thanks

[Q] Send back branded Desire which was bought as unbranded or get 40 Euro compensatio

Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel

Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.

You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.

Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel

There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.

steve228uk said:
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers

[Q] Not only debranding, but enabling direct OTA from HTC

Hi, I regret to say I am a noob. I have read around for the past few days and have a general idea of rooting and flashing ROMs.
I have a branded T Mobile DHD and I not only want it debranded, but I want it to function as if T Mobile never touched it. That is, I want to be able to debrand it once and then receive OTA updates direct from HTC when they are released (all the way up to the eventual ICS).
I have two main questions. One, can I replace the T Mobile ROM with the Stock HTC one without root and without a custom recovery (that is, installing the stock ROM using the stock recovery -renaming it update.).
Two, do I need to change the CID to HTC__001 to enable future OTA updates?
There may be things I have missed. Please point me in the right direction if this is the case, cause the info I've found isn't as specific as I'd like it.
Thank you!

Unfortunately not sure if there is such a thing. I have rooted and used custom ROMS and in the end went back to my providers RUU. I find even though some bloat ware the software is fast enough bug free and battery life is very good. Search the net maybe find your answer there.
Sent from my SPH-P100 using xda premium

rzgomba said:
Unfortunately not sure if there is such a thing. I have rooted and used custom ROMS and in the end went back to my providers RUU. I find even though some bloat ware the software is fast enough bug free and battery life is very good. Search the net maybe find your answer there.
Sent from my SPH-P100 using xda premium
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I should have clarified, I'm using a T Mobile DHD off ebay with a 3 sim. The reason I want to have a clean DHD is primarily so I can be free from waiting on T Mobile for updates. The reason I want to be clean and have OTA direct from HTC is because I've always been happy with stock, unbranded ROMs.
Thanks though.
Is there no way of completely restoring the DHD to a purely unbranded state so that it functions as a factory bought one?

I read this
"If you're coming from a branded ROM and just want to debrand, you can stop here. By reverting back to an unbranded 2.2 ROM, you will now be able to receive OTA update straight from HTC without any network bloatware. You can continue with the root process, but it is not recommended you download OTA updates when rooted."
on androidforums, the thread "How to root and install a custom ROM on the Desire HD" (I can't post links)
Which is what got me thinking about debranding and leaving it there, but reading up about CID and OTAs I got confused, wouldn't mine still be T Mobiles and not HTC__001 after downgrading? It'd be great if someone could explain how simply reverting back using a goldcard results in successful HTC OTAs.
Or I could just root the phone and install HTC WWE ROMs as they appear online.
What would be best?

You would have to gain root/soff/supercid first after that you just simply flash the unbranded ruu.

It should be doable, I would imagine all it takes is setting the proper CID/MID and flashing a WWE RUU, and never rooting/installing custom recovery.

Hunt3r.j2 said:
It should be doable, I would imagine all it takes is setting the proper CID/MID and flashing a WWE RUU, and never rooting/installing custom recovery.
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Could I use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit to give me those permissions, then using the Kit revert it to a WWE RUU?
If not, I'll try rooting then installing a RUU separately. I know how to install ROMS from zip files through recovery, how do I install a stock exe RUU on a rooted phone?

Reverting back to son unbranded to me would be an unnecessary step. This is what I would do.
1)use the hack kit to get supercid/soff
2) flash the unbranded ruu
3)done
To flash an ruu, you would simply just run the program from your PC with your phone connected