Problems with Titanium Backup free version - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I recently rooted my Desire (for the first time), S-Off'd, flashed CM7r2 hboot, CyanogenMod 7.0.3 stable and created a 1GB ext3 partition using S2E set to install apps (not private apps) and dalvik-cache to sd-ext.
In my attempts to use Titanium Backup to backup and restore the system I've gotten quite frustrated.
It seemed that whenever I ran a TB backup, it was being backed up to the TitaniumBackup folder on the SD card (or whichever folder I created and set in TI's Backup Folder preferences). Immediately after performing the backup, the backed up files were visible in the TitaniumBackup folder using a file explorer yet the folder and files were never visible to view in Windows, with the SD card mounted as a Mass Storage Device. This meant I couldn't copy the backup to my PC.
Of course I tried again and again, sometimes using the same backup folder and creating many new ones too, but the folders were never visible in Windows. In fact occasionally when I created a new backup folder and ran the backup again, the folder and files from the previous backup would disappear from the card, not even visible using a file explorer on the phone and not detectable using TB's 'Detect' button in Backup Folder prefs. At the same time, the drive space occupied by the previous 'disappeared' backups wasn't freed-up, so my SD card just became more and more full (quick system info, Titanium Backup and FreeSpace all confirmed this).
I don't recall reading anywhere that one should reboot after each backup is performed by TB but decided to try it anyway. The result was, as long as I rebooted (the phone) after every backup, the backed up files were correctly saved and could be seen in Windows (and copied to my PC). Any attempt to do more than one backup before rebooting often caused problems.
I did some tests:
Test: Created folder TitaniumBackup, performed a backup then rebooted phone.
Result: Backup correctly saved and visible.
Test: Created folder TitaniumBackup2, performed a backup and rebooted.
Result: Both backups visible and correct.
Test: Created folders TitaniumBackup3 and TitaniumBackup4, ran backups to both folder locations, then rebooted.
Result: All four backups so far visible and correct.
Test: From within TB I deleted backups 2, 3 and 4, leaving backup 1 untouched. No reboot.
Result: In a file explorer the contents of backup folders 2, 3 and 4 were gone, folder 1 contents intact.
Test: Connected phone to PC and mounted sdcard.
Result: All four folders still show their full contents of backup files. Copied folders 2, 3 and 4 to PC successfully.
Test: Rebooted phone and mounted sdcard.
Result: The contents of all four folders was gone (folder 1 should have remained unchanged). This was confirmed using a file explorer on the phone. What's more, the sdcard now has 102MB less free space than when I started which happens to be the size of backup in folder 1 which has mysteriously vanished.
I appreciate this is a long post and you may not have all the answers but any ideas/suggestions would be appreciated.
It seems to me that TB is caching the changes made when a backup is performed (or deleted) ready to apply them when the phone is restarted.
Does everyone else find they must restart their phone after each backup? Or could it be down to software settings on my phone?
How can scheduled backups be relied upon if a restart is required after each backup operation?
And how can backup files be erased by accident (folder 1 in the last test above) yet the disk space remains occupied and is not freed-up?
Would appreciate your thoughts people.
Thanks,
Steve

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[Q] Question about revolutionary-0.4pre4 in Desire

Hi,
I have been using revolutionary-0.4pre4 Backup and Restore and it works fine. But every backup takes a lot of space in my SD. How can I deleted one backup without affecting the others?
Best regards and thanks!
they are saved in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
each backup will be contained in its own folder, listed by date if it's the same recovery flashed when you used revolutionary.
to save even more space on your sd, i would recommend moving the entire folders and saving the last few somewhere safe on your PC. if you're even more paranoid you could even back them up online to dropbox/box/google drive. it's much safer to have a few recent nandroid backups just in case
to restore, simple copy the entire folders back into /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup
(a minor point if you rename your nandroid folders, don't put any spaces in them otherwise i don't think they restore)

Can't Restore from Titanium Backup?

Before I swapped out phones I ran a TI backup and then saved it on external sd card. Now I got new sgs3 and copied that folder to /sdcard/TitaniumBackup but TI Backup is not seeing it properly and doesnt give me that backup to restore. What am I doing wrong?
hard to say. are you backups not showing up? if so, did you check that TB is pointing to the folder on your sdcard? go in prefs and change backup folder then do detect and whole device. see if any other folders show up there. of course make sure you are rooted. igf your backups are showing up but just not restoring then you could have any number of issues.

[Q]

Thanks in advance for your time and help.
I'm trying to transfer system settings, apps, and data from one Galaxy Note 2 to another using Titanium Backup Pro with SuperUser installed. Both phones are rooted and are identical and run the exact same version of the same Android OS.
After backing up the contents and system data of the old phone, I upload the 1.7 GB backup files up to DropBox via the "Sync to DropBox" function. All 1.7 GB appears on DropBox.
I remove the SIM card and SD card from the old phone and put it into the new phone. On the new phone, I install the pro version of Titanium, and the superuser apps, plus BusyBox.
To download the backup files from DropBox to my new phone, I tap on "Sync to DropBox" on the new phone. Instead of downloading the backup files from DropBox to my new phone, this deletes all the DropBox files stored there. This happens probably because by tapping Sync on the new phone within Titanium, it sees that the backup folder is empty and therefore cleans out what was previously uploaded from the old phone.
The same SD card that was used on the old phone is now in the new phone and should technically contain the backup files, but Titanium installed on the new phone says there are zero backups on it.
1) How can I make Titanium download 1.7GB of the backup files instead of deleting it?
2) After being able to successfully download the backup files, I suppose what I need to do after that is to restore apps + system data? Thanks so much for your help!
Weird, that's not how it's supposed to work. You could attempt to either restore the android id or create a new one from tb options.
Regarding your second question, yes, but when restoring system data, I prefer to simply tick the apps and xmls that I want to avoid conflicts.
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Why you not changing location of TB to Ext SD card and select Auto Sync TB setting
After this reload application and just move same SD card to new device, install TB and everything will be fine.
-To restore
I recommend
-Restore missing app + Data
then only data from
Contact storage - green
Messeging-yellow
setting-green
setting storage-green
Sec Home Launcher - Red
I think this should be enough.
Thanks
Thanks for your helpful suggestions, guys.
What I figured out is this: Titanium Backup defaults to syncing the external SD card TI folder with the DropBox folder. If the folder is empty or isn't present on the external SD card (the one that is removable), it will delete the files that are on the cloud on DropBox but not on the external SD card.
The workaround is to specify where Titanium Backup should look for the backup files. If I connect my new phone to a computer and manually move the TI Backup files to the internal SD card (internal phone memory) and later specify for TI Backup to look at the phone's memory, not the external SD card for the TI Backup folder, the backup will work just fine (except for the usual app installation glitches because the Android ID doesn't match).
When I clicked "Sync to DropBox" on my new phone, hoping that the DropBox backup files would be downloaded to the new phone, I didn't realize that the external SD card was full and so TI Backup defaulted to Sync it with the internal SD storage on the new phone which was of course empty.
When I realized this, what I did was to manually move the entire TI Backup folder from DropBox to the new phone.
Thanks very much for your help and time taken to advise me. I really appreciate your responses.

[Q] Phone's internal memory system messed up after installing ROM

Hi,
I flashed last night Temasek's CM11 4.4.2 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596887), wiping user data, caches, etc (I was on a rooted stock 4.1.2 ROM).
Everything is working great so far, I love this ROM, I just noticed a problem that it's quite annoying: it seems that the internal user data file system (which would be the /sdcard folder in my old ROM) is all messed up and replicated. Here;s what happens:
I created a backup of the current ROM with Online Nandroid backup. If I use a file explorer from my phone (X-plore) and go to the "partition" /storage/emulated/0 I can see the backup created in /storage/emulated/0/clockworkmod/backup/.
However, if I connect the phone to my PC and browse the contents, the partition that I see isn't that same partition, it's an older one with older files (for example it has a clockworkmod folder but the backup isn't there, and some folders are different). What;s worse is that I can't find this "old" partition when browsing my phone with X-plore. These are the palces where I've looked at:
- /storage/emulated/0 (shows the partition where the backup I just created went, I can see the backup there)
- With root privileges:
- /data/media (shows an older second partition with different folders)
- /data/media/0 (shows the "right" partition, where the backup is)
- /sdcard (again, shows the "right" partition)
- /storage/sdcard0 (same here, shows the "right" one)
So to sum up, it looks like I see at least 3 diffent partitions:
1. From my PC, I see an older one that I can't see from X-plore (I tried Cyanogenmod file explorer too)
2. From my phone, I see the one that has the backup I just created
3. From my phone too, I see a second old partition (different from the one I see from my PC)
So what I would like to know is:
1. How can I transfer the backup to my PC if I can't see the partition that holds it from there?
2. Is it safe to just delete all those folders in both old partitions? I'm sure they're taking space unnecessarily
Any help would be much appreciated!
After flashing any CM/AOSP Rom. They actually create a different folder set up. That's because of the ability of different users...
You need to apply the restore SD card after downgrade.
Found HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36873319
After that^^^^^^^^^ just make sure you copy everything you want.. Then you can delete all those other folders you don't need.
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Bajanman said:
After flashing any CM/AOSP Rom. They actually create a different folder set up. That's because of the ability of different users...
You need to apply the restore SD card after downgrade.
Found HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36873319
After that^^^^^^^^^ just make sure you copy everything you want.. Then you can delete all those other folders you don't need.
SENT FROM MY SAMMY i317 USING TAPATALK
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Thanks for the reply! I'll try this as soon as I get home!
Bajanman said:
After flashing any CM/AOSP Rom. They actually create a different folder set up. That's because of the ability of different users...
You need to apply the restore SD card after downgrade.
Found HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36873319
After that^^^^^^^^^ just make sure you copy everything you want.. Then you can delete all those other folders you don't need.
SENT FROM MY SAMMY i317 USING TAPATALK
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Hey! So it seems that did it!!! Now I can see ALL the contents in the /sdcard partition (X-plore shows it as /storage/emulated/0)
So my question is (I'm still pretty noob at all this): all the files/folders shown there shouldn't be critical for the OS to work, right? They should all be stuff saved by apps, that if they get deleted the worst thing that will happen is that those apps will lose that info, right? I ask because I can recognize most of them, but not all of them, so I'm not sure, and I would like to remove as much stuff as possible.
One file that makes me doubt specially is /sdcard/clockworkmod/download/download2.clokworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.4.3-t0lteatt.img. Is that the actual CWM recovery that I have in my phone? Or just the installation image that can be removed?
Thank you very much for your help!
I ended up deleting everything from the sdcard partition and restoring the stuff that mattered to me, and everything seems fine now. The only weird thing is that when I create a backup with Online Nandroid backup (which gets stored in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backups), I can't see it when connecting my phone to my PC. I can see everything else in the sdcard except the backup. I've tried unplugging and plugin again the phone, rebooting it, rebooting my PC... but nothing. However, if I zip the backup folder with X-plore, leaving the zip file in the same folder as the backup folder, my PC can see it...
Weird thing but oh well!

Unable to Extract from TWRP Nandroid Backup using Titanium Backup

Hi All,
Been trying to figure this out for the last 30 Hours straight & now I'm at the end of my rag with bloody knuckles & a hole in my desk... So I thought this would be a good a time as any to ask for some advice/help!
I have upgraded/flashed my HTC One M8 (2014) from LP (Android_Revolution_HD-One_M8_41.0_866186) to MM (ResurrectionRemix-M-v5.6.2-20160203-m8) (Based off CM13). I created a backup of all my Apps & Data using Titanium Backup & also made a full Nandroid backup using TWRP.
The problem is with restoring the data within the Nandroid backup, previously I have used the "Extract Data From Nandroid Backup" option in Titanium Backup to extract my SMS/MMS messages to my new Rom. However when I try to do that on MM I'm greeted with the message "Failed to locate your TWRP backups directory. Please verify that the "TWRP/BACKUPS" folder exists on your SD card."
To make thing worse, when I try to restore my Nandroid backup, it all goes well except my WiFi & Mobile Data no longer work... I can connect to my WiFi but it always says that there is no internet connection. So restoring is not an option as I can't do much without internet access.
Anyone have any ideas? I have tried to use a different SD Card & no joy, could it maybe be a permissions issue or something or am I just being a muppet & missing a simple solution.
Either way any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Oh yeah, I Googled the message that Titanium brings up with quotation marks & there were only TWO results (both from the same thread on XDA)... I've never seen Google look so barren!
Hi - I'm having a similar issue. Upgraded from LP to MM and can't extract apps/data from Nandroid backup...
It says it's been successful but no apps are there...
NeoSonic said:
Hi All,
Been trying to figure this out for the last 30 Hours straight & now I'm at the end of my rag with bloody knuckles & a hole in my desk... So I thought this would be a good a time as any to ask for some advice/help!
I have upgraded/flashed my HTC One M8 (2014) from LP (Android_Revolution_HD-One_M8_41.0_866186) to MM (ResurrectionRemix-M-v5.6.2-20160203-m8) (Based off CM13). I created a backup of all my Apps & Data using Titanium Backup & also made a full Nandroid backup using TWRP.
The problem is with restoring the data within the Nandroid backup, previously I have used the "Extract Data From Nandroid Backup" option in Titanium Backup to extract my SMS/MMS messages to my new Rom. However when I try to do that on MM I'm greeted with the message "Failed to locate your TWRP backups directory. Please verify that the "TWRP/BACKUPS" folder exists on your SD card."
To make thing worse, when I try to restore my Nandroid backup, it all goes well except my WiFi & Mobile Data no longer work... I can connect to my WiFi but it always says that there is no internet connection. So restoring is not an option as I can't do much without internet access.
Anyone have any ideas? I have tried to use a different SD Card & no joy, could it maybe be a permissions issue or something or am I just being a muppet & missing a simple solution.
Either way any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Oh yeah, I Googled the message that Titanium brings up with quotation marks & there were only TWO results (both from the same thread on XDA)... I've never seen Google look so barren!
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Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
topjohnwu said:
Q: **** app cannot access external SDcard!!
A: Look at this explanation:
Since Kitkat (2 years ago man), we don't have direct external storage write permission. Google consider it insecure, so they implemented this feature. The reason why you can access external SDcard easily before is because most roms on XDA already contains a hack in /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml. You should not rely on this hack forever, please take a look below.
In lollipop and after, Google provided a much secure and better way to grant external storage access to third party apps, first of all take a look at this article for details:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...s-automatic-mediastore-and-improves-security/
So instead of using the old platform.xml hack in the old Kitkat days, adopt yourself with this new behavior of Android!! If a certain app cannot access SDcard, ASK THE DEVELOPER to add support for this API!!
Many apps already have support for this API. I'll take Titanium Backup for example, as lots of you cannot find the way to use it on externals SD. In Menu>>Preferences>>Backup Location, you can choose Document Provider on top of the detect button.
In the provider, open the menu on the top right corner and select "Show SDcard", then you'll see External Storage in the left side. Select external SDcard in the document provider and press the button on the bottom, the app will then be granted access to the whole external storage. You can then create a new folder in TiBack and select it as your backup location.
Other apps also follows the instructions above, you just have to manually set up the folder where the app can access, in the case which most of us would love to give access to the whole SDcard, I set the location to the root of external storage. Each app has independent permission, so you have to manually grant each app you wish to access external storage.
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-Duir- said:
Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
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'allo mate, I appreciate the reply but it has done nothing for me, just to clarify, I can see my backed up Apps & Data so I'm pretty sure it already has access to the SD card (correct me if I'm wrong) but it is still unable to see the Nandroid TWRP backup... bit of a Jar as I just paid for the premium version of Titanium Backup & Nandroid Manager. Nandroid Manager is able to see the files but hangs when trying to extract the Messages...
Any Ideas?
NeoSonic said:
'allo mate, I appreciate the reply but it has done nothing for me, just to clarify, I can see my backed up Apps & Data so I'm pretty sure it already has access to the SD card (correct me if I'm wrong) but it is still unable to see the Nandroid TWRP backup... bit of a Jar as I just paid for the premium version of Titanium Backup & Nandroid Manager. Nandroid Manager is able to see the files but hangs when trying to extract the Messages...
Any Ideas?
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Copy or move the backup folder to internal storage and it will work. Not sure if it's a bug in TB or because of how MM handles the external sdcard but it doesn't check it. It finds the TWRP folder on internal, which if you don't backup on internal, only has your preferences (and theme if you use one). I never used it, so not sure if it was an issue before MM or not.
I did try and got an error about not finding a "clockworkmod/backup" folder or a "TWRP/Backups" folder so to see what happened I made a "Backups" folder in the TWRP directory on my internal storage and the error basically changed to say there were no backups in it.
-Duir- said:
Copy or move the backup folder to internal storage and it will work. Not sure if it's a bug in TB or because of how MM handles the external sdcard but it doesn't check it. It finds the TWRP folder on internal, which if you don't backup on internal, only has your preferences (and theme if you use one). I never used it, so not sure if it was an issue before MM or not.
I did try and got an error about not finding a "clockworkmod/backup" folder or a "TWRP/Backups" folder so to see what happened I made a "Backups" folder in the TWRP directory on my internal storage and the error basically changed to say there were no backups in it.
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Cheers for that mate, seems to have done the trick. Unfortunately when I restore my Phone & Messaging data it completely destroys my phone... I get the message "com.android.phone" has stopped working & the entire system slows down to a crawl... I also get the Sim Card icon in the top right of the screen with a line through it... Is this because I'm moving between Sense to something else? I'm really at my wits end with this.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
NeoSonic said:
Cheers for that mate, seems to have done the trick. Unfortunately when I restore my Phone & Messaging data it completely destroys my phone... I get the message "com.android.phone" has stopped working & the entire system slows down to a crawl... I also get the Sim Card icon in the top right of the screen with a line through it... Is this because I'm moving between Sense to something else? I'm really at my wits end with this.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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I would say that's definitely it. Not only are you restoring app data for system apps from two different Android versions (LP -> MM) which can be buggy, but also for two completely different builds (Sense -> CM) which don't use the same apps. Sense will use HTC's own Phone and Messaging apps and CM if I remember uses stock Android versions). It's been too long since I tried CM but when I did it I had a third-party program for backing up contacts and installed something like GoSMS to backup messages, then installed the same apps on CM and restored the data from within those apps and the stock dialer/messaging apps had the data. But this was before HTC added backup/restore capability into their versions of the apps.
I'm having a similar issue, I google searched and it brought me here. I can see my backup from within TWRP, even on the PC I can see the TWRP folder and files. But when I boot and use titanium backup or nandroid manager, it says backup not found. Even in the root browser, the TWRP folder is empty and even on the PC I can't see the files anymore. Its kind of frustrating because there are two apps that I want restored but I don't want to completly restore using TWRP.
rapiollymega said:
I'm having a similar issue, I google searched and it brought me here. I can see my backup from within TWRP, even on the PC I can see the TWRP folder and files. But when I boot and use titanium backup or nandroid manager, it says backup not found. Even in the root browser, the TWRP folder is empty and even on the PC I can't see the files anymore. Its kind of frustrating because there are two apps that I want restored but I don't want to completly restore using TWRP.
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Try going to Settings>Apps, find Titanium Backup, then select Permissions and see if Storage is toggled on.
I've got the same problem, storage permission is toggled on. Although I am using a LG G3
same here with my Galaxy S5 (AOKP 6.0.1)
The same problem on Xiaomi Mi Max (Android 6.0.1). External SD card permission is granted to TB (it can see full SD contents and select TWRP backup directories). But "extract from Nandroid backup" shows "folder not found" error.
I'm afraid CWM/TWRP directory locations are hardcoded as "/TWRP on SD card" while /sdcard is mapped to internal memory on modern phones.
I had copied data files of the backup (1.5 gigs, not a best choice) to internal memory (/sdcard) and TB immediately found them. Unfortunately, TB offers only apps and app data for restoration. I need to extract plain user data directories but TB offers no way for that.
Stock S5 6.0.1
same here...what a pain..
Had to copy nandroid backup from extsd to internal storage to restore app data
-Duir- said:
Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
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DAMN THANK YOU that solved it
Anyone knows how to extract the nandroidbackup from the TWRP folder on ExternalStorage? I cannot move the backup because its to large for my InternalStorage. I think it's an issue in TiBackup, creating a symbolic link also does not work since my ExternalStorage is formatted as exFAT.
Another fix I discovered is get your BACKUP ID
twrp save folder > TWRP>BACKUPS>BACKUPID>backup
if you have a backup without a backupid folder it will not work!
Having storage permission or not doesn't seem to help at all!
-Duir- said:
Is your TWRP backup folder on the external sdcard? If so, did you give Titanium access? There's multiple thread about apps needing to be given permission to access external storage. Titanium Backup especially has a lot of threads detailing this because of steps needed to access your backup folder if it is on the external sdcard.
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This helps Titanium Backup see its own backup folder, but doesn't help it see the /TWRP/BACKUPS folder
emuzychenko said:
I'm afraid CWM/TWRP directory locations are hardcoded as "/TWRP on SD card" while /sdcard is mapped to internal memory on modern phones.
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Can a symlink be created from the location it's looking to the location it's actually at?

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