Hi there, I gonna be in the US for one year and plan to bring my desire with me. Is there an american provider using frequencies the european desire is capable of?
Is it possible to chance supported frequencies by flashing another radio or are they hardware fixed?
Nigggo said:
Hi there, I gonna be in the US for one year and plan to bring my desire with me. Is there an american provider using frequencies the european desire is capable of?
Is it possible to chance supported frequencies by flashing another radio or are they hardware fixed?
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I think T-Mobile. You should check with them. Anyways the Desire is quad-band so you are in a good position to find a carrier.
Sry i forgot to mention that I am mainly concerned about 3G. Calling and texting shouldn't be a problem anywhere but I would really like to use a dataplan and use 3G.
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I know my question might be really stuppid but anybody knows if there is any software (ROM) possibility to make the HTC TP2 run on the HSDPA 850MHz? I have just bought one that might arrive next week but I guess I will need to change my carrier.
Marcus Tavares said:
I know my question might be really stuppid but anybody knows if there is any software (ROM) possibility to make the HTC TP2 run on the HSDPA 850MHz? I have just bought one that might arrive next week but I guess I will need to change my carrier.
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no there isnt and will not be until a US carrier takes the device. That will not be a rom change either, they will have the radio enabled which only HTC can allow
Thanks a lot.
Wait for At&T to release??
Safe to assume the same as touchpro/fuze? Have different chipset for 850 networks?
mallman said:
no there isnt and will not be until a US carrier takes the device. That will not be a rom change either, they will have the radio enabled which only HTC can allow
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Hi Mallman,
I already got the Touch Pro2, but I'm unable to get signal on 850. Would it be possible to change the radio once it is released for US carrier?
I'm using the phone on Mexico with the carrier Telcel. I'm only getting Edge.
Regards
Omar
Does anyone know if this phone is for sure coming to t-mobile?
sorry dude. no tmo desire. so wish there was tho. im even thinking of using edge on tmo and buying this phone
Just buy the Nexus One from googles website .......99% Same Phone....with Tmobile 3G...and you can buy it now
sojizy said:
sorry dude. no tmo desire. so wish there was tho. im even thinking of using edge on tmo and buying this phone
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Sorry for asking. Did i understood correctly, that T won't let you use 3G unless phone is purchased from them?
incaaa said:
Sorry for asking. Did i understood correctly, that T won't let you use 3G unless phone is purchased from them?
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Tmo has a weird 3G frequency, and this phone's radio doesn't support it.
bigo1087 said:
Just buy the Nexus One from googles website .......99% Same Phone....with Tmobile 3G...and you can buy it now
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a nexus one is $530 and on contract there is a certain required plan that doesn't support family plans.
HTC desire and Tmobile
So if i understand it correctly,
Desire is NOT coming to T mobile for Sure ..
It will not work with T mobile frequencies, esp 3G network
which carrier will it work with ... better not AT&T
so basically no point of buying an unlocked phone then ..
drali154 said:
So if i understand it correctly,
Desire is NOT coming to T mobile for Sure ..
It will not work with T mobile frequencies, esp 3G network
which carrier will it work with ... better not AT&T
so basically no point of buying an unlocked phone then ..
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It is rumored that AT&T will get the Desire. Wait it out until April-June. Also, if Telstra gets the Desire, AT&T customers can POSSIBLY import one and MAYBE catch 3G.
As far as "T" goes, I don't know if they will get the Desire since...well...there is the NX-1.
Either way, you will not be able to get 3G speed if you import the Desire. So if you want 3G, go with the Nexus. If not...go with the Desire
Does T-Mo UK have the same 3G frequencies and whatnot as T-Mo US? Because according to MoDaCo's webiste, T-Mo UK IS getting the Desire. So if T-Mo US doesn't, we could always import and throw in our sim cards :]
guitargler said:
Does T-Mo UK have the same 3G frequencies and whatnot as T-Mo US? Because according to MoDaCo's webiste, T-Mo UK IS getting the Desire. So if T-Mo US doesn't, we could always import and throw in our sim cards :]
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If so...that would be awesome
UPDATE - everything on the two websites I posted are "rumored" for now.
http://www.cellphonesignal.com/rumor-t-mobile-training-employees-on-htc-desire/
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/T-M...rained-on-the-HTC-Desire-article-a_10155.html
Oh, i just remembered... US does not use SI system either
guitargler said:
Does T-Mo UK have the same 3G frequencies and whatnot as T-Mo US? Because according to MoDaCo's webiste, T-Mo UK IS getting the Desire. So if T-Mo US doesn't, we could always import and throw in our sim cards :]
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The UK Desire wont work on US TMo 3G. Its radio only does 2100/900 and 2100 is what TMo UK uses. TMo US uses the 1700 frequency. Ironic that the Nexus 1 radio does 1700/2100/900 so it works on TMo UK 3G.
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It is rumored that AT&T will get the Desire. Wait it out until April-June. Also, if Telstra gets the Desire, AT&T customers can POSSIBLY import one and MAYBE catch 3G.
As far as "T" goes, I don't know if they will get the Desire since...well...there is the NX-1.
Either way, you will not be able to get 3G speed if you import the Desire. So if you want 3G, go with the Nexus. If not...go with the Desire
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Gay t&t also has the nexus one so if it comes to the US hopefully it will be on T-Mobile
According to my "about phone", phone identity, model number, my device model is A8181.
As far as I know, there is A8381 (or something like that too).
Can someone share what is the difference between this two models?
Thanks.
I think it's to do with differentiating between hardware versions. Different markets have different standards, i.e. the US and Japan use a different UTMS frequency for maobile data to the ROW thus might need a slightly different hardware version for full compatibility. Or, there may be a slightly different hardware versions over the life of a product which may come about through the guise of "continuous product improvement".
ljesh said:
As far as I know, there is A8381 (or something like that too).
Can someone share what is the difference between this two models?
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The A8181 and A8183 are essentially identical, except for the radio bands that they support 3G on. For the most part, if you are on Telstra in Australia, Rogers in Canada, or AT&T in the US, you need an A8183 otherwise you need an A8181.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks alot for clearing this up for me
8181 in Australia
I,m in Australia, my desire is a 8181, seems to work like a dream, if the other version is better for Australia then I,d like to know more
I believe you only need the A8183 in Australia if you want to use the phone on Telstra.
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Dave
Hi,
I have tried searching the forums but I can't seem to find whether the custom ROMs will work with A8181 or A8183.
Thanks!
mynameisnotjames said:
Hi,
I have tried searching the forums but I can't seem to find whether the custom ROMs will work with A8181 or A8183.
Thanks!
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I've flashed DeFrost and OpenDesire and I'm having no problems (got an A8183).
As for the difference between the A8181 and A8183, does anybody know if there's a physical hardware difference between the two?
If it's just a software problem, theoretically, couldn't the radio rom be hacked to use all 3 bands?
it's hardware
Both work fine in Australia on any carrier.
The A8181 works on the 2100mhz frequency which all AUS carriers work on (yes - even Telstra).
The A8183 works on the 850mhz frequency, which is the Telstra NextG frequency, so either model will work on Telstra.
Main advantages of NextG (as claimed by Telstra) are faster data speeds and better coverage compared to 2100mhz.
So, A8181 for 3g and A8183 for NextG.
ROMs arent model specific, however with radio upgrades you may find some suit your carrier/area better than others.
I am using a Telstra Desire with an Optus sim and it works fine. I still get H for connection and it's pretty fast internet. When I have full coverage webpages load in just a second or so, and it's more then fast enough to stream movies and music.
okay, so i've got a newbie question to ask.....mine's A8181, and im in toronto using Rogers, but so far i've been using wifi only, no 3G data plan for me as of now......my question is, is it totally unusable for the 3G with Rogers? cuzi heard ppl told me its still usable, but with a little bit performance deduction....perhaps as not 100% fast as it should be.....anyone got a clue for me?
Hello everyone,
i will be living in California from March to July and therefore i'd like to know if i can use my GSM Desire from Germany in the US?
I understand that in europe GSM is used and in the US mostly CDMA. I know there are GSM networks as well in the US.
I've read somewhere that i won't be able to use HSDPA in the US, but only EDGE. Is that true? It would be really annoying if it were.
And if so, is there a way to turn my GSM Desire into a CDMA Desire? Somehow flashing another RADIO oder whatever?
Thanks for all the answers!
Regards,
Muuhmann
Muuhmann said:
Hello everyone,
i will be living in California from March to July and therefore i'd like to know if i can use my GSM Desire from Germany in the US?
I understand that in europe GSM is used and in the US mostly CDMA. I know there are GSM networks as well in the US.
I've read somewhere that i won't be able to use HSDPA in the US, but only EDGE. Is that true? It would be really annoying if it were.
And if so, is there a way to turn my GSM Desire into a CDMA Desire? Somehow flashing another RADIO oder whatever?
Thanks for all the answers!
Regards,
Muuhmann
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i think t-mobile support the same frequency for there 3g/hsdpa as eu desires
Really? That would be awesome!
Can anyone using t-mobile usa confirm this?
Sorry to chime in a little late.
I moved from Belgium to the US bringing with me a European T-Mobile Germany Desire. It works fine on the T-Mobile USA network, the only problem is that I can't get 3G or 4G to work. The only way so far to get internet access on my phone is through wifi.
I read somewhere that 2G is supposed to be supported but I came here on these forums to find out how and why, because I can't make it work..
Hope this is somehow helpful..
Hi chbau,
thanks for letting me know.
3G and 4G (that would be the "H"-symbol, right?) aren't working, if I understand you correctly?
But in the next sentence you also say that you don't get 2G (that would be the "E"-symbol) to work, am i correct?
That would be a real pain in the a**. That would mean no mobile internet.
Hi my plushies
Anyways. I just got a Desire HD! YAY ME!
Being a Desire owner for 2 years and seeing a lot of great development on the HD, i'd give it a go. So far seems good, though i like the AMOLED a bit more imo
So my first boot after getting it from retailer, it boots with T-Mobile logo. That means its from USA right? Is my phone then an Inspire or a Ace? Afaik, the Inspire is the american version?
The weird part is, i got the T-Mobile one because the other one (a danish one WWE), was send for repair and i recieved this instead.
Will this affect anything? And how the *** do i figure out of its an Inspire or Ace?!
**Btw, i did do my search first lol
**Is it on the bootloader? I saw an "Ace" in there, but wasn't sure if everyone DHD had that name
*2. edit* Lol apparently i've used the wrong terms. So, Desire HD or Inspire (Apparently their all Ace (As in vendor Ace, like the Desire -> Vendor Bravo))
Inspire is the 4g version DHD was not.
also check the "full" spec list at the bottom of this page
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-htc-inspire-4g-and-vs-htc-desire-hd/
I've got a german t-mobile branded phone so i'd never be sure where it's from
but yes: DHD is the HSPA version, Inspire 4G is the 4G version (LTE? HSPA+? no clue)
My phone is an American inspire that i bought unlocked online... its actually an ATT phone and not tmobile. If your phone is a Tmobile then its def not american but probably from some other countey instead. Another way to find out is by seeing if you get access to 3g in yoir country. Because att uses frequencies that are different from most other countries around the world, the american Inspire doesnt get access to 3g data in most countries. Apart from that its practicaly the same phone hope this helpzs
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
There are basically 3 versions of the Desire HD.
First is the European/Asian version. It is model A9191 and has high speed data bands of 900/2100. It can be branded or non branded but they are all the same physically. If it says T-mobile on it then it is a European version branded to T-mobile.
2nd is the Telus Desire HD from Canada. It is model A9192 and has high speed data bands of 850/1900. It has no logo denoting it as a branded phone. It also has a second mic by the camera flash used for noise reduction.
3rd is the Inspire 4G from ATT in the USA. It is also model A9192. Physically it is exactly like the Telus Desire HD except it has ATT branding logos on the phone.
All 3 phones are HSPDA compatible. All 3 have the same size memory. All three have the same LCD. In terms of getting at least 3G, if you live in Europe you want the A9191. The A9192 is mainly for North America/parts of South America and can be used in parts of Australia on the Telstra network.
Hi I currently have a A9191 running CM7.2.
When I purchased this phone (in Australia) I was originally on the Vodafone network & I'm now on Telstra NextG (850) - but for high speed data it can only get the "3" network = 2100.
I wanted to know if it is possible to load on the A9192 baseband to "activate" / change to the high speed data bands of 850/1900? Or if there is any other mod to do this?
Or is the physical hardware of the A9191 only capable of the high speed data bands of 900/2100?
Any help or advise would be much appreciated
David_PDA2K said:
Hi I currently have a A9191 running CM7.2.
When I purchased this phone (in Australia) I was originally on the Vodafone network & I'm now on Telstra NextG (850) - but for high speed data it can only get the "3" network = 2100.
I wanted to know if it is possible to load on the A9192 baseband to "activate" / change to the high speed data bands of 850/1900? Or if there is any other mod to do this?
Or is the physical hardware of the A9191 only capable of the high speed data bands of 900/2100?
Any help or advise would be much appreciated
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I don't know the specs for the dhd, but it is a hardware issue.
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27844700
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Thanks Teichopsia,
Looking at this thread, it looks like he was trying to get 4G (inspire4G) out of a 3G device, which I'd say is even harder than just switching bands.
But it doesn't mention anything about the A9192 vs A9291.
Even Qualcomm's site doesn't list a A9192.
I agree it does look like a potentially hardware thing though - i.e. potentially different radio hardware / antenna / firmware... but I don't specifically see this detailed anywhere. Looking to see something that says it is different physical hardware.
The theory I'd like to validate - both Desire HDs use the same MSM8255 chipset, & perhaps you can make a A9191 to a A9292 with flashing the right firmware.
Going to reply to the thread you sent to see if they had any further luck.
Kind Regards,
David.