I have read the guides/tutorials but there are still a few things i don't understand.
The guide says the radio boosts the phone's signals, so why are there so many to choose from? Which one do i need and what is the difference?
I have rooted and S-OFF'd my phone. i'm not sure what the next step is. is it installing a new radio or rom? how do i know which rom to install or is it just trial and error?
Also, what is ENGINEERING HBOOT?
Thanks
NthZ said:
I have read the guides/tutorials but there are still a few things i don't understand.
The guide says the radio boosts the phone's signals, so why are there so many to choose from? Which one do i need and what is the difference?
I have rooted and S-OFF'd my phone. i'm not sure what the next step is. is it installing a new radio or rom? how do i know which rom to install or is it just trial and error?
Also, what is ENGINEERING HBOOT?
Thanks
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Radios, for the most part, are trial and error; some work best in certain regions, others best in other regions. As for ROMs, look through what each offer and choose the one you like the best.
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Isn't there any more info at all on this though? Like which ones work better for which areas and carriers. Or does the carrier even matter?
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I am sick of my phone coming up that I have low storage. I want to root my phone. I have an USCC Desire 2.2 with Hboot 1.06.000. I am very new to doing this to my phone and I can follow directions very well. Is there any easy way to do this? I am also looking into going to the cyanogenmod 7. Is this a safe one to use and easy to use? Please Help.
Problem is that there a lot of guides out there talking about radio s off and what not, and I don't understand head nor tail of what's being said.. will be following this thread closely
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I never said anything about the radio on this. I need help rooting my phone thats what I need.
Try this tutorial :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
I see that you have 1.x Hboot which as far as I know can't be subjected to the S-off procedure.
Here is a link to some custom ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10469759&postcount=2
Please be careful not to flash GSM ROMs on a CDMA device.
I thought 1.06 wasn't rootable full stop?
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I thought 1.06 wasn't rootable full stop?
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You are probably right.
It is right, currently 1.06 cannot be rooted
I haven't flashed the new hboot yet. I'm currently running CM7 and have the eng hboot 0.76.2000 with s-off.
As promised, here are the questions:
1) Has anyone flashed the new hboot and tried to restore a custom rom?
2) If I flash the new hboot (0.86.0008) will I be able flash back to the eng hboot?
3) What are the differences between the two? I usually use cwm/recovery, but if I need the hboot, I would like to be able to flash all the partitions. Is this still possible with the SHP version?
4) the nb0 files seem like I could flash them via "flash hboot" and skip the zip or disk destroy. Does this make anyone nervous?
5) I lost track of all the rooting going on... I rooted with gfree before there was a version number. Is there a root method that unlocks even more?
Thanks in advance... I've been playing with the ASUS transformer lately which has an unlocked, unbrickable bootloader, so I know I should slow down before getting to flash happy with hboot.
Why do you want to flash a new hboot? Something wrong with your device or something?
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This is one of those "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" things.
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The more you tell me not to do it, the more I want to flash it!
I'm just curious....
Same as u gee one, I wanna know. If no one ever tried new things cause what we had was "good enough" we would be years behind in progress in about every level of life.
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Stick with the ENG HBOOT -- it has more of the fastboot commands enabled.
I think we all plan on sticking with eng hboot. Still doesn't answer the question about what is different with the new one.
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Hboot changes are typically to add security (i.e., take away your freedom), not add new features or make anything better. Unlike the radio, it will NOT affect performance. This is just a bootloader, like GRUB or LILO. Once it hands the CPU off to the Linux kernel, its life is over. As long as it does that correctly, there is no reason to change it.
Thank you 234 I think that is the kind of answer we were looking for I would hit thanks but am on the mobile app.
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I have flashed the htc desire hboot on the G2 and so far I'm still able to flash any rom for both the G2 and the htc desire .
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What "features" are missing from the existing hboot? If it aint broke dont fix it, definately a case of theres a new version must flash it must be better, think will stay on my old boring hboot that does what i need it to do until the wiki is updated.
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Hold my beer, I'm gonna flash the new hboot!
There's nothing wrong with hboot- I'm just asking about what differences there are. I never asked if it was better. I understand that it's not an engineering hboot, but I don't know what features are "missing" from it. This is the exactly the question that I'm asking. I know that flashing a new hboot will not increase my battery life or improve my radio reception. I know that flashing hboot can be dangerous and lead to bricked devices. I know that flashing hboot will not solve world hunger, resolve the world debt crisis, or bring peace in the Middle East.
I think if I asked about a new ROM, people would just tell me to flash it and find out for myself.
Flashing hboot can be dangerous and possibly brick your device. I do not recommend it. This thread is for entertainment purposes only!
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There's nothing wrong with hboot- I'm just asking about what differences there are. I never asked if it was better. I understand that it's not an engineering hboot, but I don't know what features are "missing" from it. This is the exactly the question that I'm asking. I know that flashing a new hboot will not increase my battery life or improve my radio reception. I know that flashing hboot can be dangerous and lead to bricked devices. I know that flashing hboot will not solve world hunger, resolve the world debt crisis, or bring peace in the Middle East.
I think if I asked about a new ROM, people would just tell me to flash it and find out for myself.
Flashing hboot can be dangerous and possibly brick your device. I do not recommend it. This thread is for entertainment purposes only!
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No offence buddy but why do you want to flash a new hboot then? You mention different ways to root but as far as I am aware the wiki is the "official" recommended way, will stick with what Ive got until such times as the wiki recommends changing my hboot,that is the only guide to rooting that I need.
I never said I wanted to flash it. I just asked what was different about it. What changed from the old stock hboot? Maybe the partition layout is different and there is more memory allocated to data? I don't know, hence the questions.
As some people have asked, if it ain't broke, then why fix it? Then why would HTC/T-Mo change it? I'm just curious about the changes.
I agree, for most users, they would never need hboot. The zipped up roms and radios are just fine for flashing in recovery.
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I agree with you. There's nothing wrong with wanting to know what does the new hboot do. Furthermore, the only thing "wrong" with knowing more is that you get more awesome stuffs, kinda painful isn't it?
And, "if it ain't broke, then why fix it", why are we using HTC Vision here, not Nokia 1100, or better yet, smoke signal?
Holy thread resurrection, Batman !
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He's got a good point though.
Basically what it says in the title. I have a Desire HD with Android 2.3.5 installed, and I want to flash Cyanogenmod 7.1 (With google apps) to it. I've had a good look at all the resources available and I think I know what I need to do, I'm a little apprehensive though as I'm new to this so would somebody mind checking the resources I have found to see if I have the right steps?
First of all I've checked in About Phone -> Software Information and found that my Software Number is 3.12.405.1. So from what I've read this means I'll have to downgrade my firmware before I can root.
That lead me to this guide: Here
If I follow that guide carefully as well as this one here, I will end up with a phone that has firmware 1.32, is rooted, has Radio S-OFF and also has clockworkmod recovery installed.
From there, I can then follow this guide here to install the latest version of Cyanogenmod either using Recovery, or the ROM manager. Simple, right?
Does this sound about right? Or am I missing something incredibly obvious that will break my phone, or make life a lot easier?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Sounds good to me although you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
One click root and s-off once you follow everything and have the right setup to run the tool. Very easy and quick.
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yvibes said:
Sounds good to me although you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
One click root and s-off once you follow everything and have the right setup to run the tool. Very easy and quick.
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Thanks! That looks good, although I'm not very confident about this little warning.
Doing this WILL severely degrade bootloader performance on Inspires (and likely DHDs) and causes issues trying to install RUUs. In other words, it WILL jam you up. (Note: Issue now confirmed on later DHDs - ignore at your own risk).
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Am I reading this correctly, following this method WILL degrade my bootloader performance? Or will that only happen if I perform the hack incorrectly?
You are reading it wrong. What has happens especially with us inspire users(American dhd) is that if your phone was shipped with gb, installing the Eng bootloader(Eng soff) causes issues. Makes the phone take 15 min to boot. Its possible to fix but its a long pita. I only seen a couple people with dhd have this issue so and others not.
Regular soff is all you need, just you can't use fastboot to flash say radios, its done in a different way
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You are reading it wrong. What has happens especially with us inspire users(American dhd) is that if your phone was shipped with gb, installing the Eng bootloader(Eng soff) causes issues. Makes the phone take 15 min to boot. Its possible to fix but its a long pita. I only seen a couple people with dhd have this issue so and others not.
Regular soff is all you need, just you can't use fastboot to flash say radios, its done in a different way
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Yup exactly that
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Just follow these his guide and video, works perfectly. www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-hd/
The only difference is that after instead of flashing the rom suggested you can flash cm 7.1 www.download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=ace
No risks no problems with bootloader.
ok so ive been with android a while now but am new to the g2
just looking around the threads i havent found a good answer yet.
so what is the best radio/hboot for a tmobile branded g2
where i live i have always gotten great reception with tmobile across any devices
but i had my g2 for a day before i rooted it and i noticed a 4g symbol??
did a little research i guess that isnt 4g but im still looking for an answer.
tried a few roms, on miui.us now, something else tomorrow...
hboot-0.76.200
microp-0425
radio-26.02.01.15_m2
emmc-boot
aug20, 201, 16:51:01
im guessing there is better?
thanks in advance
You can check out this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
And look for one you'd like to use. All radio's for the HTC Vision (g2/Desire Z) are on that page.
I have the same hboot and I'm using the .19 radio. Seems the best for me, been through a few and every once in awhile I get flashy and try others just to come back to that radio. It has the best reception and battery life combo for me.
DFW, TX
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There is no overall "best" radio because there are too many factors involved in terms of radio performance (e.g. geography, how you use your phone, etc). So it's trial and error. Try one of the latest radios from that thread for a week or so, see how you get on, then you can flash a different one and compare.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
thanks everyone for the tips, i downloaded all the radios from the thread i was linked to with plans on trying out all or most of them over the months to find my preference. couple quick questions
it was recommended to match the lib-ril files to the radio i am using (doing it in a couple days to test the difference) but i only found the files needed for the latest radio (26.13.04.19) for the other radios where can i find these files?
also is there any benefit (or even an option) to use a different spl/hboot? or so long as i have an engineering hboot they all are the same as in no added benefits?
There's a thread about a useful tool to match the RILs for you, I will edit in a link if I can find it.
Edit - I see you found it already lol. But if you want the RILs to match with other radios, you will have to extract them from whatever stock ROM came with those radios. I don't know if someone has done this already, to make it easier ?
As for hboot then no, the main difference is eng hboot vs stock, the eng version giving you a few more options.
The only other issue is sometimes people flash the DZ hboot onto a G2, because the two phones have different stock partitioning (via hboot). This is typically an issue when flashing a Sense-based ROM onto a G2, since that has a slightly smaller system partition (so the ROM won't fit).
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yeah kinda what i thought. are there any options on custom mtd partitions? not that im too crazy over sense but this way if it ever became an issue i do a few small edits before flashing a sense rom. either way thanks for the tips
oh an yeah someone gave me a link to the auto patcher for the lib files, i didnt even think to look there for i was planing on manually moving them anyway, but yes they are all placed in there but thanks for digging for me anyhow!
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
I recently flashed radio as well.
I did it with this one :
http://d-h.st/T1X
My problem was that when calling the other side heard them self twice. And its gone
and yes, It got a lot to do with wifi, 3G, calling. and most of your connectivity .
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Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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Radios are not EDIT: ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.
igloo_01 said:
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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In addition to what Bananagranola said, if you flash ENG S-OFF and your device was shipped with Gingerbread you will mess your bootloader and radio won't be the main concern then.
You can flash a radio in the PD98IMG.zip way (wich is the safest way to do it) or flash modified ENG S-OFF included in the Hack Kit and after that you can find the radio threads links in the guide in my signature.
Make sure that you read carefully those threads. Flashing a wrong radio might brick your device.
bananagranola said:
Radios are not phone, ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.
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Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
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Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
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Yeah, sorry, that was misleadingly phrased. I edited my earlier post.
Thanks for all the replies. I'm starting to understand! I'm in the UK, so I guess I would need to get a UK radio. How often are they updated? When I've looked around, there only seem to be a few available.
My current radio is 26.10.04.03_M Can I improve on that?
Also, I read on the LeeDroid thread that you need to make sure the radio is compatible with the ROM, but bananagranola said it's not ROM specific...who's right??! Is it a case of, when I find a radio I want to use, I post it in the ROM thread to ask if they are compatible?
Thanks.
Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
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Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
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Thanks for all the advice. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you - had a little issue with a bricked tablet (all fixed now though
I guess the next steps for me are to take a nandroid backup and try some out!
If I'm back on here with more questions it means something went wrong... :cyclops: