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So, with the Nexus S officially released, I am ever so slightly jealous of only one thing: NFC. To be perfectly honest, I think my Mozart does everything else better than the latest "Google Phone", but NFC is something that I've been drooling over for probably about 3 years, having seen it all over Japanese websites/tv.
Damn it I can't wait for some sort of NFC solution for us! http://twinlinx.com/mymaxsticker.php is probably our best bet (once it comes out), but it's not the same as having the function integrated into the hardware...
Who else can't wait for NFC to really take off? ^__^
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No one, I personally dont see the big deal. To be honest, never heard of it until today.
vetvito said:
No one, I personally dont see the big deal. To be honest, never heard of it until today.
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A year ago, there were 25 million people with NFC on their phones. It's beyond huge over there! I'm really surprised that you haven't heard about it! The vast majority of shops there have nfc readers at tills as well, effectively allowing you to leave your wallet at home, and only carry your phone
Damn it this excites me!
I didn't hear of it until today, either.
And neither has anyone I know.
N8ter said:
I didn't hear of it until today, either.
And neither has anyone I know.
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Are there *no* NFC type services in the US at the moment? :S Not even Oyster cards like we have here in the UK for public transport? :S
^ Not that I know of, like I said earlier, never heard of it until today.
We do have several NFC services here in the US. Just nothing that is very popular nor is it outwardly billed as being NFC. Each implementer brands it with their own name.
https://www.speedpass.com/forms/frmSpHome.aspx , for example
^ I have that little thing for Exxon. That's what this is? Another form of a credit card?
In korea they use it for everything...they can use it as cash (pay for things at shops, taxis public transport) but also you can save credit cards to the chip and you can just carry your phone around and have all your bank cards on it (only works in banks and ATMs)
also in some schools they use NFCs for student ID as well..
pretty amazing tech..it's still to take off fully but still light years ahead of most other countries...
don't worry America, once apple put in an NFC in their new iphone people will get so overly excited and think Apple invented it! and everyone will use it blah blah!
I think London is thinking of replacing the oyster card for NFC, right?
i think i prefer to keep my credit card seperate from my phone... it's one thing to steal my phone, or my card... but to steal them both in 1 hit... not my cup of tea.
GenkaiMade said:
Are there *no* NFC type services in the US at the moment? :S Not even Oyster cards like we have here in the UK for public transport? :S
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Crime is more prevalent here in the USA than in Japan. With such tech on our phones and being relied upon, it's like a Christmas party for ill mannered hackers.
somethings i prefer seperate
credit card is easier to replace than a phone
if that phone gets hacked by some virus (not very likely but still) im f*cked.....
I don't see this (NFC) taking off in the U.S. anytime soon, even if it's on iPhone 5 (which I don't think it will be given Apple's penchant for great implementation and user-experience).
Before it gets adopted in the U.S. by phone manufacturers, it also has to be adopted by all of the U.S. retailers in orders to be of any real-world use. What's the likelihood of that happening within the next generation or two of smartphones?
the thing is when you get mugged, the mugger isn't gonna say you can keep your credit cards but imma steal your phone..he'll just try take the whole lot, right? any muggers care to share?
and how many times have you all been mugged?? the US must be worse than I thought!
for using credit cards on NFC I think you still need to input your pin each time anyway so i reckon it will be just as safe (if not safer) than physical credit cards..
also if you keep in mind that most phones that are coming out have phone tracking built in, i think NFC is the way forward!
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the thing is when you get mugged, the mugger isn't gonna say you can keep your credit cards but imma steal your phone..he'll just try take the whole lot, right? any muggers care to share?
and how many times have you all been mugged?? the US must be worse than I thought!
for using credit cards on NFC I think you still need to input your pin each time anyway so i reckon it will be just as safe (if not safer) than physical credit cards..
also if you keep in mind that most phones that are coming out have phone tracking built in, i think NFC is the way forward!
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lol jump to the worst case scenario... mobile phone theft is a lot easier to do and tends to occur without the owner knowing. this is more common for females unfortunately. If you've ever used a NFC enabled credit card, you would know that a PIN is not required for purchases under a certain amount (here in Australia it's $100). I can do a lot of shopping with limits of $100... Sure they'll all be small items, but I can still purchase A LOT before the end user knows. Trust me, I've done it to friends a joke, merely walk past them whilst their iPhone is lying next to them, and walked off with it. They didn't even notice. People are a lot more cautious with their wallets than they are their mobile phones.
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lol jump to the worst case scenario... mobile phone theft is a lot easier to do and tends to occur without the owner knowing. this is more common for females unfortunately. If you've ever used a NFC enabled credit card, you would know that a PIN is not required for purchases under a certain amount (here in Australia it's $100). I can do a lot of shopping with limits of $100... Sure they'll all be small items, but I can still purchase A LOT before the end user knows. Trust me, I've done it to friends a joke, merely walk past them whilst their iPhone is lying next to them, and walked off with it. They didn't even notice. People are a lot more cautious with their wallets than they are their mobile phones.
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I'll thank you to return both my phones back to me...my Samsung Focus and Dell Venue....also throw in my Galaxy Tab, if you don't mind...for some great Angry Birds action....
MartyLK said:
I'll thank you to return both my phones back to me...my Samsung Focus and Dell Venue....also throw in my Galaxy Tab, if you don't mind...for some great Angry Birds action....
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hahaha, what phone(s)?
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lol jump to the worst case scenario... mobile phone theft is a lot easier to do and tends to occur without the owner knowing. this is more common for females unfortunately. If you've ever used a NFC enabled credit card, you would know that a PIN is not required for purchases under a certain amount (here in Australia it's $100). I can do a lot of shopping with limits of $100... Sure they'll all be small items, but I can still purchase A LOT before the end user knows. Trust me, I've done it to friends a joke, merely walk past them whilst their iPhone is lying next to them, and walked off with it. They didn't even notice. People are a lot more cautious with their wallets than they are their mobile phones.
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ah that makes sense...
in korea they have NFC in the phones and you can use it for cash (comes out of your phone bill) for small payments and withdraw cash from ATMs (via stored bank/credit card) after you insert PIN
i didn't realise you can get credit cards with NFC on them..
well in that case, I am back on the fence about this one
I have my HD7 but I am tempted to sell it and buy the Nexus when it comes out. Trying to be patient with WM7 and it has a lot of potential but I think it might take a year or so to get up to IOS or android. The nexus S could hold me over till then
in a year wp7 if its doesnt fizzle may have overtaken ios, and android at their current stages and at its current rate of growth ( its been out about 2 months, and a update already in testers hands) in less than four months it will almost catch up, and about 6 months from that it'll have things that they dont. Who know maybe by then ios will be playing catch up to wp7, 6.5 already had some thing thats why alot of us have the hd2,in a way theyre playing catching up to us with exception of stability and speed. Now that we have stability, etc, all they have to do is put back what they took out, add apps which they are doing, and walla. Windows Phone is on top again. Nothing last forever, not even apples domination.
I want to store credit cards i rarely use, driver's license, loyalty cards, medical insurance cards, etc etc etc.
It sucks google missed the boat by not supporting stuff in wallet outside of credit cards because i would love to use that to stick all my kroger, walgreens, etc loyalty cards in and not have to install anything else.
what are other people using? lemon? i'd rather not have to install ANYTHING else, but if i do, i want it to be able to securely lock up all the stuff i dont want to carry around with me.
what are other people using who dont like carrying a wallet around with them?
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I want to store credit cards i rarely use, driver's license, loyalty cards, medical insurance cards, etc etc etc.
It sucks google missed the boat by not supporting stuff in wallet outside of credit cards because i would love to use that to stick all my kroger, walgreens, etc loyalty cards in and not have to install anything else.
what are other people using? lemon? i'd rather not have to install ANYTHING else, but if i do, i want it to be able to securely lock up all the stuff i dont want to carry around with me.
what are other people using who dont like carrying a wallet around with them?
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I'm presently using LastPass, and ponied up for a year's subscription. You can do a two week trial to decide whether it's worth it to you or not. I dig it, and there are mobile and PC versions. That said, it's the only one I've ever used.
https://lastpass.com/
CMNein said:
I'm presently using LastPass, and ponied up for a year's subscription. You can do a two week trial to decide whether it's worth it to you or not. I dig it, and there are mobile and PC versions. That said, it's the only one I've ever used.
https://lastpass.com/
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How are you actually using LastPass to digitize your wallet? I've been a paying LastPass member for almost two years now. I love it and all, but I don't seem to recall LastPass having features to digitize cards and stuff.
Southrop said:
How are you actually using LastPass to digitize your wallet? I've been a paying LastPass member for almost two years now. I love it and all, but I don't seem to recall LastPass having features to digitize cards and stuff.
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It's under Secure Notes - you can choose Credit Card as an option. I believe you can also attach an image to it, if you'd like to take a picture of your physical card as well.
i like to know if i'm at the next '10 cents off' range on my kroger card.
do either of these apps accurately show you your kroger points as well? i see kroger has an app that does that..does keyring or lemon or lastpass provide this info or do they just store the loyalty id #?
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It's under Secure Notes - you can choose Credit Card as an option. I believe you can also attach an image to it, if you'd like to take a picture of your physical card as well.
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Ah I see. Come to think of it, I've never actually used the Secure Note feature. Looks like it could be useful, but I don't think I could be bothered to add all my cards lol
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i like to know if i'm at the next '10 cents off' range on my kroger card.
do either of these apps accurately show you your kroger points as well? i see kroger has an app that does that..does keyring or lemon or lastpass provide this info or do they just store the loyalty id #?
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LastPass seems to simply store textual information and an optional image. As far as I can tell, there is no system that checks balances or point totals.
there is a kroger app that does it :banghead: but i was hoping for something to avoid that.
looks like w/ all the coupons that kroger app might be worth installing anyway in addition to giving me the monthly balance on my points (since they reset every 30 days)
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I want to store credit cards i rarely use, driver's license
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I'll stop you RIGHT there... Yes, there are apps that will store loyalties and credit in one bundle, a couple mentioned here are quite good...
Your driver's license though?!?! Sorry man, until the government endorses an "App" that allows it, you're not giving that card up anytime soon. I don't think there's a Cop on the planet that would take your word that an image of your license on your phone couldn't be altered and is just as good as the hologram embedded copy-proof ID that the government issues to avoid fraud. haha
I'll stop you RIGHT there...
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ok fair enough. i know the driver's license isn't kosher...but if they're just looking it up to see if its legit anyway what is the point of the little plastic thing?
ok that aside (and yeah i know its needed to get into bars)..i still want to store everything else if possible.
like my HSA debit card..i rarely if ever pull that out except to pay a bill when i'm sitting in my office and i'm just reading the stupid card anyway. rarely if ever use it in real life.
oh and 100 posts woo hoo.
nyvram1 said:
like my HSA debit card..i rarely if ever pull that out except to pay a bill when i'm sitting in my office and i'm just reading the stupid card anyway. rarely if ever use it in real life.
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What good does storing a debit card do anyway? I mean, unless I'm seriously missing something or misunderstanding, you're basically storing the number, expiry date, security digits and possibly a photo of it in most cases. It won't store chip data (assuming chip+pin debit card) or mag stripe info (for mag stripe cards). The only way I can see it being used after digitized is online. But you most likely wouldn't pay your bill from your phone anyway, would you?
well.its a debit/credit card.
i get these little paper invoices from clincs for my kids and i just call the 800# and give them my card # over the phone to pay them.
but i never carry the HSA card with me so having it on the phone means i should have all the numbers & stuff i need to do the bill paying over the phone.
i should point out its technically a 'debit' card since the HSA is a bank account, but i don't actually use it that way with a PIN or anything.
Here's what I use... http://goo.gl/Kc2S6
The developer is constantly updating the application and he is really open to feedback. The application allows you to add anything so that you always have it with you. The only thing I'm not sure of right now is if he lets you add pictures of the card, I think he would add it though if you suggested it. The alternative is Lemon Wallet, http://goo.gl/FVv5G
This is what i use and i love it.
http://timothyjc.blogspot.com/2010/12/wallet-for-android.html
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well.its a debit/credit card.
i get these little paper invoices from clincs for my kids and i just call the 800# and give them my card # over the phone to pay them.
but i never carry the HSA card with me so having it on the phone means i should have all the numbers & stuff i need to do the bill paying over the phone.
i should point out its technically a 'debit' card since the HSA is a bank account, but i don't actually use it that way with a PIN or anything.
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Maybe the UK does things differently. Debit cards are basically the standard way to pay by card in the UK. Most, if not all, are visa or MasterCard and all by now should have chips in them, so it's not exactly easy to digitise. Are things different wherever you are?
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Yea, with how much fraud we have here in the States and how much banks say they want to keep your money safe, implementing chip&PIN is apparently too expensive an endeavor for us.
I just memorized my card number and leave it locked up at home *shrug*
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This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/
OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.
Cant wait!!!
If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.
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If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.
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cloudraker said:
OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.
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Indeed, I am skeptical....but if GOOGLE who makes ANDROID says it will be done. I believe it.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/
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Damn, I agree! The main reason I wanted Root (well two reasons) was for bloatware removal/freeze, and for backing up apps/app data (especially games!)....Well now with most apps doing the cloud-save thing, if Lollipop really does allow us to remove both carrier AND oem bloatware, I won't be as desperate to Root....although IF Root ever comes to our ATT Note 4, I'll still Root, just won't be as desperately needed. I'd still like to put a custom ROM on my Note4 someday, but I can wait a year or so.....after I'm out of warranty
Lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iPhone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (My mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when I got home she handed me her phone and said "What did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and I had to show her the message!) We see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than Candy Crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and I would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iphone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (my mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when i got home she handed me her phone and said "what did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and i had to show her the message!) we see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than candy crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and i would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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did you just call your mom stupid?
raiu said:
did you just call your mom stupid?
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Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:
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Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:
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lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.
raiu said:
lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.
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What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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....so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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I am not sure if you understand that we don't care about those other 90%...we care about our 10% who is smart enough to utilize what we own.
pr0cl1v1ty said:
What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!
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Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!
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OMG....awesome, thank you so much sir.
What's up with all the iPhone hate? Different strokes for different folks; no reason to bad mouth others for a difference in taste.
Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.
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Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.
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Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?
I hope this gives users the ability to remove these apps. Hell if Microsoft can pull it off so should Google. I have disabled over 20 apps on my AT&T Note 4 with the majority being carrier bloatware. Ridiculous.
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Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
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This is only for phones that come with 5.0 on them. All phones upgraded from KitKat to 5.0 will not have this feature. Also these same updated phones will not have encryption as their default setting either.
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https://twitter.com/Samsung_KNOX/status/590604920686018561
the article doesn't say if its just being rooted or if you trip knoxx
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I’ll choose a device I own over a wallet I don’t.
Exactly why this'll be the first device I won't root. Honestly I see no reason to this far.
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Ugh... Not cool Samsung!
Well..by the time the technology catches up, you all will probably be on your next phone, Xposed will be working flawlessly with Sammy stock ROMs, and there will be modules and ways to hide root so that you can use the Sammy Pay. This is no different than past Pay type apps that were blocked because of root..one of those is what Sammy purchased and is incorporating. Since rooting opens your phone to major security risks, would you expect any less from an app that has a ton of your financial information?
I sat through the lecture Jcase gave at DevCon 2013 regarding the dangers of rooting and it made me think twice about what is on my rooted phone. If anyone is interested in watching the 50 minute presentation I can post the youtube link here.
Yeah, probably I won't root either, I already have the hotspot / tethering working without root and I don't want to loose NfC / Samsung Pay
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Well..by the time the technology catches up, you all will probably be on your next phone, Xposed will be working flawlessly with Sammy stock ROMs, and there will be modules and ways to hide root so that you can use the Sammy Pay. This is no different than past Pay type apps that were blocked because of root..one of those is what Sammy purchased and is incorporating. Since rooting opens your phone to major security risks, would you expect any less from an app that has a ton of your financial information?
I sat through the lecture Jcase gave at DevCon 2013 regarding the dangers of rooting and it made me think twice about what is on my rooted phone. If anyone is interested in watching the 50 minute presentation I can post the youtube link here.
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What do you mean by this?? Samsung Pay drops in a couple months, not next year.
And sorry, it's meant to say tripping knox= no Samsung Pay.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
What do you mean by this?? Samsung Pay drops in a couple months, not next year.
And sorry, it's meant to say tripping knox= no Samsung Pay.
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What I mean is the availability of machines to accept the phone NFC as payment from Samsung Pay. These devices are very scarce in my neighborhood. I have only seen them at Sunoco gas stations here. Google wallet, Isis, Samsung Pay, Apple Pay....cool gimmick but not really going to replace carrying around credit cards. I don't expect waiterpersons to have a device to carry from table to table to accept these payments in restaurants. So what I mean is it will be years before this type of payment is as common as using a credit card. And certainly would never even be a consideration in my root or not to root decision.
Only... Samsung pay doesn't need nfc to work. It is compatible with regular magnetic card readers. It uses magic I believe...
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Only... Samsung pay doesn't need nfc to work. It is compatible with regular magnetic card readers. It uses magic I believe...
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Yup. This is my understanding as well.http://www.androidcentral.com/forums-samsung-pay-galaxy-s6-and-why-it-matters Works not by NFC, but the magnetic strip machines that are already used almost everywhere. Which in my opinion, is a game changer (in a big and good way) for sure!
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What I mean is the availability of machines to accept the phone NFC as payment from Samsung Pay. These devices are very scarce in my neighborhood. I have only seen them at Sunoco gas stations here. Google wallet, Isis, Samsung Pay, Apple Pay....cool gimmick but not really going to replace carrying around credit cards. I don't expect waiterpersons to have a device to carry from table to table to accept these payments in restaurants. So what I mean is it will be years before this type of payment is as common as using a credit card. And certainly would never even be a consideration in my root or not to root decision.
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You do realize the main feature of Samsung pay isn't Nfc right?
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Yup. This is my understanding as well.http://www.androidcentral.com/forums-samsung-pay-galaxy-s6-and-why-it-matters Works not by NFC, but the magnetic strip machines that are already used almost everywhere. Which in my opinion, is a game changer (in a big and good way) for sure!
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You do realize the main feature of Samsung pay isn't Nfc right?
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I see! Thanks for the article. And I agree that does make it more useful...but you still are not going to give the waiter your phone and password to pay the restaurant check. It does become more useful in the shopping area and gas station type thing. It still seems like a johnny-come-lately gimmick and for those that really want this hopefully the T-mobile and Sprint uses will find a way to hide root and let it work.
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Only... Samsung pay doesn't need nfc to work. It is compatible with regular magnetic card readers. It uses magic I believe...
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LOL "magic"! Sounds like it...I can barely get my cards to read!
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What I mean is the availability of machines to accept the phone NFC as payment from Samsung Pay. These devices are very scarce in my neighborhood. I have only seen them at Sunoco gas stations here. Google wallet, Isis, Samsung Pay, Apple Pay....cool gimmick but not really going to replace carrying around credit cards. I don't expect waiterpersons to have a device to carry from table to table to accept these payments in restaurants. So what I mean is it will be years before this type of payment is as common as using a credit card. And certainly would never even be a consideration in my root or not to root decision.
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But Samsung Pay NFC is just a small part. That's not the big deal. MST is the big deal. This method works on all terminals where you'd normally swipe your card. Edit: I see it's already covered
Sent from my SM-G920P
KennyG123 said:
LOL "magic"! Sounds like it...I can barely get my cards to read!
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I know right! I do like nfc tap and pay when available, but I'll admit, is not necessarily the convenience factor but the "cool" factor.Wallet and nfc payments are cool when they work but most of the time it proves to be more trouble than its worth and i end up pulling my card out anyway. Maybe Samsung Pay will change all that?
I was always happy to root my device because Google Wallet + NFC didn't care. Now I'm tempted to wait and see how things go. Even though it'll be more accessible, there's also the caveat that retailers stop keeping their card readers behind the counter and put them out in the open for customer access.
Sadly the news today says that Samsung Pay won't be released until September this year, so another 4 more months.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/30...ch-in-south-korea-and-the-us-later-this-year/
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Sadly the news today says that Samsung Pay won't be released until September this year, so another 4 more months.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/30...ch-in-south-korea-and-the-us-later-this-year/
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Yeah saw that too and was kinda disappointed bc it was supposed to come out in the summer!
sierra bravo said:
Ugh... Not cool Samsung!
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not cool? really? what do u expect? rooting means breaking security on the phone. that said people can steal information on your phone . People can steal your credit card information so what do you expect?
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this make it mute. Looks like the magic swipe will be dead by the end of the year here in the us. No more swipe and sign, just NFC. http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-234B-3681
No working root for note10+ US snapdragon in site you say??? A few months back @elliwigy with extreme syndicate release a working root method for the note 9 snapdragon, they did this by exploiting the combo files to bypass the locked boot-loader issue with newer US Samsung models. I was curious to see if this can also be achieved on the us note 10 plus. I have been working on that very problem but i seem to have hit a wall could use some fresh input. Is anybody else actively working on this if so I would like to team up and solve this problem....
yours in good code,
-C-Dubbenstein-
Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG
SomeGuy2008 said:
Would be nice when and if. Good luck. I picked up my vzw note 10plus on day 1 here in US. Never updated anything other than play store apps for in the event a root or maybe even a bootloader unlock would come to. Neither of which I'm holding my breath on. But I'm optimistic. These are strange times we live in so who knows.
Good luck nonetheless,
~SG
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Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also
see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/how-to/root-note-20-ultra-version-t4165703
appears to cover n10 among few other
Anyone tried this rooting/ bootloader unlock method successfully on an SM-N976U Note 10+5G from Tmo?
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This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
w41ru5 said:
This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door
TheMadScientist said:
Then don't do it. I know the guys too. And they are legit. So it's no one loss but your own. I wouldn't hesitate. Next time you want root or such buy a device that can be out the door
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I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.
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I did not say that they are not legit nor that I have something against them.
My point is that the variables on this endeavor are complex and thin, not so much transparency.
I do own an 975F, so I don't loose anything.
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Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
w41ru5 said:
This reply.
This has enough red flags to be more red than "some country flag" itself.
"So basically I gotta send some random guy in Beijing $150.. wait a week, install some 3rd party utils to let him take over my (windows) computer.. and if anything goes wrong I'm out $150 and the only way to get ahold of them is Telegram?"
That's the reply quoted above.
Hmm...
a. send money to unknown person - no control whatsoever on tracing the money
b. wait for some time - no guarantee of getting an answer
c. install some 3rd party PC tools (or similar) which will allow that unknown person to control my computer - WHAT POSSIBLY COULD GO WRONG :silly:
d. if something goes wrong / unsuccessful result (which are quite possible) then ... - ugh, cuz why not, I've paid, right?
e. the only way to get in touch with that person is telegram - btw, on groups channels there's no encryption (afaik, but maybe I'm wrong)
What can I possible do with the 150$? What if I save some 20-30$ every month for 2 years and add the 150?
Some 630$ - 870$ of savings in 2 years, not bad, they may help in buying the next phone.
Oh yeah, and no root. Because 'Murica (and a few others) luv SD chips. And LagSung loves $$$.
my 0.02$ (or 2¢)
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so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol
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so the reply you quoted is someone who is paranoid or mad that its not "free".. most good things in life are not free..
a. I am known very much so in the community and have been around a decade or so.. have been only dev really providing root (for free) on xda since the s8 and posted many other dev projects overthe years before that
b. I respond as soon as physically possible so u will get a reply. also to add im not shady at all, in fact theres a plethora of notes which users must read everything before theyre even able to send anything.
c. usb redirector is a very common tool that most legit services use for various things such as sim unlocks, frp bypasses or w.e other services are out there in the world. it also DOES NOT allow full control of ur computer lmao.. it only allows them to see the device plugged into usb which is what allows remote services to be dont.. u basically plug device in and with usb redirector itll appear as if its plugged in to the remote computer so they can unlock the device.
d. if something goes wrong bcuz the user didnt read all the notes, provided wrong did or something after repeated warnings, notes, having them triple check then thats their own fault. If it is an issue with the service then a refund is given. This is common practice. If you go to an antique store and break something chances are u will have to pay for it, same concept.
e. theres multiple ways. chat, xda, email, pymbt is done in venmo usually so u also have access to personal facebook account if need be. Encryption for chat isnt really necessary.. im sure real hackers have more important things to do then try and somehow steal a random chat for a did they cant do anything with anyways lol
its also not 150.. only flip 2 is 150 which very few ppl have anyways.. but i do agree, you can do a lot with 150 and of course saving money over two years is a good idea lol
and absolutely, we luv sd chips bcuz its consistently superior than exynos as well as exynos doesnt have good functionallity on usa networks.. why buy a exynos if ur in usa and not have any carrier features or 5g etc?
thats just my 2 cents lol
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I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.
w41ru5 said:
I must apologize for the fact that I didn't know that you are the person dealing with this root possibility. I know the type of your work, but didn't think it can be also a different one too.
I also have great respect for you, so again, I'm sorry.
I understood that it was a completely other unknown person related to this situation. My ignorant answer(s) were based on that.
To be more clear, I do not live in US and can't buy an US SD with similar carrier conditions. I have access to Exynos as purchase and warranty. I'm satisfied with it.
It is totally my fault being to superficial in getting the correct (somehow an interesting/challenging one) context of this talk.
Therefore I apologize again.
Best regards.
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lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons
elliwigy said:
lol no need to apologize.. just as someone else stated a "paid" service or even unlock in general for some reason ppl have a hard time believing but with everything else theres always goimg to be a few out there that will be quick to downplay it.
Of course some points/concerns im sure are very real to some ppl and paid services are frowned upon on xda for valid reasons with one being some ppl will be triggered and unfortunately sometimes post innapropriately lol
i dont really talk about it much for obvious reasons
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So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?
Lol
dominick_7 said:
So you trust the method to get the note 10+ snapdragon rooted? Do you or does anyone know anyone who has done it thats given feedback besides Mad Scientist saying he knows them? What would you say is the best option of a note 10+/model number that can be rooted?
A non related question, is there a recommended carrier unlock company you'd recommend, i use a tmobile note 10+. Is unlockriver legit?
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if u can find the group then yes, theres many that will vouch
most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
AceDaMack said:
Well I seen this morning there is an unlocking method for $150 just need to confirm if itll work for the + models also
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Looking for more info, contact me please
scuubee01 said:
Looking for more info, contact me please
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Hard to search and read?
instruction for noobs
TheMadScientist said:
Right now it's the only way to get the eng tokens based of the did of your device. I just see so many people talking crap. That they'll end up closing up shop and screw the rest of us in the future when we need em. Where all know about us locked bootloader since the s5 s6. By now most people should know this and buy unlockable bootloader devices. I'm in the US. Have had severL unlocked snap. And currently running a note 10 exy
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thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.
mityakaramazov1866 said:
thats insane! for that much i could buy an octoplus with a years license and then charge everyone visiting these threads $20 to bootloader and/or sim unlock their devices. whats the incentive to use that kind of service. ive never even heard of a remote frp fix for more than $30.
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Well then do it