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Froyo Orange

I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.

marmin said:
I know its been asked but the answers are very fragmented, so my question is:-
If I'm on Orange, and I've not rooted or unrooted or whatever, do I have to wait for the Desire update, then HTC to play, Then Orange to play?
If so how long is this gonna take from when the Froyo for Desire update is released?
Please dont drag this thread into a when is Froyo gonna be released debate as thats why I'm hvaing to create a new thread in the first place.
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as a rule HTC generally dont release there standard update in a region untill all of there branded roms are ready too atleast that was one of the reasons htc gave for the late hero eclair update

I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..

roscoe141 said:
I am in exactly the same position as you. I have a unrooted, Ornage branded Desire and I really want Froyo asap.#
Will I get it OTA or will I have to wait for Orange or should I just de-brand and get it OTA?
I have no idea..
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That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

GANJDROID said:
That makes no sense to me. All firmware updates are ota, regardless on branding. Non branded phones tend to get sent first. All depends what your carrier has added to the phone.
Prime example: T-Mobile delayed the initial release of Desires because they fecked up their phones with **** they added.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App
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The point is, even if there is an Froyo OTA update for our phones I might not get mine as it's branded to Orange for another few months...

Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?

rockykabir said:
Here is a another thing - as I have an Orange Desire (no modifications - i.e. not flashed and no custom rom), can I unlock the phone from something like HTCCODE and update to Froyo using the official HTC OTA sometime this weekend?
.....but I'm guessing it's not as simple as that?
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You'd only have to make a goldcard and flash with a WWE ROM. It'll take about 30 minutes all told.

Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.

Echinox said:
Question what do you guys understand by branded Orange phone? My Orange Desire has an official HTC ROM if I'm not mistaking, when I open my phone it's load screen says HTC and I don't have any Orange menus or **** on it, it's only network lock. Now the real question will I get the update or not? THX.
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1) Your phone isn't branded
2) Everyone will get the update.
Sent from my Desire using XDA App

My phones locked to orange using a custom 2.1 Rom. Ive avoided changing to 2.2 as it is locked to orange so cant flash the radio. Does the OTA release upgrade the radio and as such will this activate the sim lock?

oh not bad!

Hopefully this should make it clear to everyone....
If you're on an Orange branded ROM, you will not get this update until Orange has fannied around making all of its useless, proprietary junk applications compatible with Froyo. That could take weeks, but will likely take months.
To get this OTA update as soon it's released:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
In theory, it should be possible to get hold of the new ROM before the mass rollout once someone has captured the link to the file on HTC's servers. This is work in progress (See dev section). As soon as that is found, it will be rooted and posted for mass consumption on this forum.
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.

bedeabc; said:
langers1 mentioned flashing radios causing a simlock on Orange devices. Flashing the 5.09 radio does not cause this problem. I and many others have shown this to be the case.
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Really?
If I updated my radio and for whatever reason it did simlock, could I flash my radio back to an older one to unlock it, or would I need to pay to get an unlock code?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

just reflash an older radio

bedeabc said:
Make a goldcard and insert it into your phone.
Flash a stock rom using an RUU executable (1.15 NOT 1.21)
Wait for HTC to release the update.
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This is what I have done, but I don't think I will be able to update to FroYo before I first update to 1.21.
What will happen if i try to update to the latest OTA 1.21?

Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

OMG thanks bedeabc, Ive been wanting to use Froyo with sense since it came out but thought I couldnt cos my phone was not unlocked, u r the man, thanks so much flashing in a few .

dallholio said:
Just flashed ..5.09 radio and can confirm my Rooted Orange branded didn't simlock. Going to flash my Rom a lot for the first time in weeks
Good thread, clears up confusion
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What do these different radio versions mean?

By the power of Grayskull......
I will have the (FroYo) Power!!!
I am planning to root my Orange branded Desire, cos I am not prepared to wait for Orange to release the OTA for Froyo in their own sweet time.
There is just one thing I dont understand. If I root, my version stays at 2.1.
I plan to then load a custom ROM, with A2SD, etc as Android 2.2.
But what if I decide I dont want it any more and I want to go back to my original software?
I have seen stock ROM's but Orange's ROM isnt there. How do I turn my own ROM into a recoverable ROM?
I have spent all day looking through XDA, modaco and google for answers....
Or am I missing something really obvious?
Thanks
Andy

I made a slight oversight in my post above. We're not yet sure, but it could be the case that you have to be running a 1.21 ROM in order to receive the Froyo update. However, the 1.21 OTA update comes with a radio which DOES cause a simlock on Orange devices.
However, I believe that there are 1.21 ROMs available in stickies on this forum that don't have a radio update bundled. Flashing one of these would be the best option for unrooted Orange users to get the update ASAP. It's unlikely that the 5.09 radio will cause problems for those with rooted Desires, so that should be ok too.
However, it's likely that the update will be bundled with a new version of HBOOT which could make rooting impossible. Only get the update OTA if you're sure you'll never want to root your Desire. I for one will be waiting for someone here to patch the update with SU permissions
@stats101
Radios are software packages that interface between your specific phone's hardware and Android OS. Think of them as driver bundles.
@langers1
Glad to be of help

[Q] 1 click root for wildfire 2.2 htc rom

there is any way of root my wildfire while i use the htc rom?(yeap very noob question )
what i really want is quite simple an app or a way(not a 33653463 steps way)to root my htc froyo rom and the have root privileges on my wildfire(ie cpu overclock)
thanx in advance

You can't root the new ota froyo. Htc updated the hboot
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Like Kevin said.
Because HTC also updated the HBOOT the usual Unrevoked method won't work.
All you can do is wait for the day the developers find a new way in or around HTC's new security.

Sander M said:
Like Kevin said.
Because HTC also updated the HBOOT the usual Unrevoked method won't work.
All you can do is wait for the day the developers find a new way in or around HTC's new security.
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How likely do you think this is? Will the developers bother working on this? My brother was holding out on the root/custom ROM option hoping the 2.2 update would get rid of some of the lag... and is now disappointed that he can't root it because of the change.

hope they find a way. Really need OC. Little brother just got zte blade which is lot better and costs 100€ less than wildfire :/

Gerald.W said:
How likely do you think this is? Will the developers bother working on this? My brother was holding out on the root/custom ROM option hoping the 2.2 update would get rid of some of the lag... and is now disappointed that he can't root it because of the change.
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I do not know, I am not a developer. However usually it takes a couple of weeks. Developers are proud people. If something made their hack not work anymore they will hack it back just to show how good programmers they really are

Gerald.W said:
How likely do you think this is? Will the developers bother working on this? My brother was holding out on the root/custom ROM option hoping the 2.2 update would get rid of some of the lag... and is now disappointed that he can't root it because of the change.
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me too i was waiting to be kinda legit.(and hassle free ...) i want to root to oc and remove some of htc software.

any news about the hboot?

von kain said:
any news about the hboot?
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No, and I am pretty sure when there is, there will be 10 threads proclaiming it.
Just be patient.

Hi guys,
I was good happy with my DK custom rom 2.2, then foolishly I tried one of the stock rom for HTC WF India, and then applied the OTA update, now stuck with unrooted WF 2.2. I suppose, if I take my WF back to HTC support, would they be able bring my WF back to 2.1, and then I would again root my device, since now my warranty is retained after flashing with the stock rom.
Any guesses on that.

hashimjamal said:
Hi guys,
I was good happy with my DK custom rom 2.2, then foolishly I tried one of the stock rom for HTC WF India, and then applied the OTA update, now stuck with unrooted WF 2.2. I suppose, if I take my WF back to HTC support, would they be able bring my WF back to 2.1, and then I would again root my device, since now my warranty is retained after flashing with the stock rom.
Any guesses on that.
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You can ask them, but, its extremely unlikely they will do that, and, I am pretty sure they wont.
Sorry mate, but it is entirely your fault you applied the OTA, even when there are so many threads proclaiming that you shouldnt apply it, if you want to keep root.

don't know but sure it will be interesting if you can post if they do.

3xeno said:
Sorry mate, but it is entirely your fault you applied the OTA, even when there are so many threads proclaiming that you shouldnt apply it, if you want to keep root.
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Exactly, you deserve it.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

I ll be going to htc cust cre tom, lets see what happns next...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Customer services were not born yesterday.
If they do decided to give you Éclair back then you can guarantee that it will be done with the new Hboot version on it and not with the old.
It's highly unlikely though.
They will know that the only reason you want the old O/S and Hboot back is so that you can hack it. Unless of course you can provide them with real solid evidence that for some reason your Wildfire really does need to run the old O/S and Hboot.
All you will get is you have to have the upgrade due to performance security etc etc.
And if they do decided to give you back the old Éclair O/S you can bet your left testicle it will have the new Hboot.

i updated my wildfire to 2.2 it doesnt lag it only runs smoother and faster specially the wifi

Can.we get softroot?
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Hi everybody,
Today I went to HTC customer care, but the guys there told me that they also are not able to downgrade it to 2.1, and their image is hanging.
Now only thing is to wait for developers to root the image and bring online.

any news so far ?

no news yet try checking out the following
http://unrevoked.com/
http://twitter.com/unrevoked

How to Downgrade to Froyo after installing HTC Stock Gingerbread

friend need help i installed HTC Gingerbread which the up on developer website on 1st of aug. now i want to downgrade it to stock froyo.
how to do?
help

You should had to ask this in your mind before flashing an RUU that contain an hboot update!
At the moment there is no way, u can wait that unrevoked or alpharev found a solution, if they care

andQlimax said:
You should had to ask this in your mind before flashing an RUU that contain an hboot update!
At the moment there is no way, u can wait that unrevoked or alpharev found a solution, if they care
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Well, the only way is rooting/S-OFF and installing a 2.2 ROM right?

riahc3 said:
Well, the only way is rooting/S-OFF and installing a 2.2 ROM right?
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Yes but the problem is that you can't root or s-off if you have installed stock Gingerbread. That's what andQlimax was trying to suggest.

I have same issue with lovalim, so I pray everyday that unrevoked or alpharev can save us......
unrevoked or alpharev, please help!!!

Worry !
So folks here .. does that mean GB upgrade should be done only once i have taken sufficient reviews and made up mind for the same.
Guys is the upgrade not worth it!!! i heard the memory available will reduce to something like 128mb but i heard there are better abilities to move applications to SD card.
Is it true??? is any once facing serious disappointments after the upgarde?
I am kinda waiting for responses !

So folks here .. does that mean GB upgrade should be done only once i have taken sufficient reviews and made up mind for the same.
Guys is the upgrade not worth it!!! i heard the memory available will reduce to something like 128mb but i heard there are better abilities to move applications to SD card.
Is it true??? is any once facing serious disappointments after the upgarde?
I am kinda waiting for responses !
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Why don't you install a pre rooted version? Then your hboot won't be upgraded and you can return to froyo if necessary.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Well i m looking at installing the Stock GB via RUU from HTC.. which now i dont think will be favourable for me after the responses !

I had contacted the HTC Support to ask the query regarding the downgrade possibility. The support guy has informed that this HTC Stock GB upgarde is some sorta special upgrade and hence it seems they will rollback my device incase i m not happy ..
" We informed you that after upgrading your HTC Desire to Android 2.3 Gingerbread, if you wish to again move for Android 2.2 Froyo you may visit our service center and get your device downgraded to Android 2.2 Froyo. "
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Since i m a newbie i have a doubt, does that mean there is no hboot upgarde happening ..
Looking forward to further thots from all the geniuses here !!

No there is an hboot upgrade, I think it just means only they can downgrade it for you which is why you have to take it to their service centre.
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

i hope that they can find solution to root the phone cuz the new GB is not good and it's not support Arabic language and the available space is not enough to install application and allot of things
and i read this news about rooting the new GB http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209243
i don't know is this's true or not
thnx for all

Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480

lovalim said:
Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480
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Thanx man , how accurate is this info?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

i was thinking of doing this too,what is wrong with it,why do people not like it,2.3 has a force to SD card function so memory shouldnt be a problem,a review would be great so i can make a decision,does it affect your SMS and MMS like they said it might? and if this does stuff up then how else could i get it rolled back as i live in australia and have no idea where a service center is,i would have to go to my Telstra store to have it sent in which case im not sure if it is covered by warranty?

Service centre for sydney is fonebiz rokdale
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At the moment there is no way to have it rolled back, it'll change your boot animation so telstra will most likely notice that you don't have their official rom on it therefore voiding your warranty. I think the main reason people don't like it is that once its installed you can no longer root your phone so you're stuck with it. Also, I'm not sure how great the stock force to sd feature would be.
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

i thought my warranty goes through HTC? at least thats what i was told? if its a ROM by HTC why would it void their own warranty? well is it that bad that ppl want to go back to froyo? or is it coz they just want to complain or what? what is the actual difference that makes it a poor upgrade,and how come u dont think the force SD would be good?

Not so great, better to flash custom rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

my desire dosent like to root for some strange reason,ive tried a bunch of times with no luck so this is kinda my only option

what is force to sd?
where do i find it on my desire please?

[WARNING] HTC blocks OTA update to 2.3.5 on x-clip s-off rooted & CW recovery

Anyone else get stuck with the warning triangle / sign with green android bot logo figure on reboot after OTA 2.3.5?
HTC seems to block the official OTA update to android 2.3.5 on rooted phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20091257&postcount=25
Should we reverse engineer the updater to remove the blocking check or do we have a full stock rom for EU with this update to flash using
alquez said:
Clockworkmod Recovery v5.0.2.6 for HTC Wildfire S (Marvel)
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already?

woprr said:
Anyone else get stuck with the warning triangle / sign with green android bot logo figure on reboot after OTA 2.3.5?
HTC seems to block the official OTA update to android 2.3.5 on rooted phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20091257&postcount=25
Should we reverse engineer the updater to remove the blocking check or do we have a full stock rom for EU with this update to flash using
already?
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Who needs OTA? We have the stock RUU here already.

But did anyone seriously expect a different behavior?
HTC won't unlock the WFS bootloader as we already know... so how can anybody expect they would allow OTA updates on rooted phones?
Since I own HTC Android phones I never saw an OTA update working on a rooted or debranded phone (HTC Tattoo, HTC Desire, HTC Wildfire, HTC Wildfire S).
Before rooting or debranding (unbranding) everything is fine. When we "cross the line" we are on our own.
Any updates must be installed by us. Anyway that shouldn't be difficult to do...
IMHO that should be simple to understand.
I guess installing a modified recovery and then expecting for a free software update would be like showing the middle finger to HTC and still asking for candy.
Android is "open source" software but only until some extent. HTC puts a lot of modifications on their releases (mainly Sense and some addons).
If we want to "kit" or "mod" or phones we should be conscious of what we're doing.
The price to pay for being impatient or for wanting to have complete control of our devices is now pretty obvious.
I'm not saying I agree with this... on the contrary! HTC should unlock the booloader and let us do what we want.
However if we decide to take that path it's our problem.
If I put myself on HTC's boots I understand that rooting/debranding/modifying recovery is a valid reason for voiding warranty and locking future updates. With an user modified phone there is no guarantee that HTC can predict what will happen during the update process.
If something goes wrong there are possibly too many variables involved that are out of their control.
Just my two cents... sorry for my long posts mates.

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Who needs OTA? We have the stock RUU here already.
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And unrooted and probably s-on bootloader after flash?
Forget it. Trash this HTC ****, I backup and participate in sense- less custom roms

woprr said:
And unrooted and probably s-on bootloader after flash?
Forget it. Trash this HTC ****, I backup and participate in sense- less custom roms
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I don't understand why people buy HTC phones which are mainly "famous" because of Sense and then want to get rid of it.
It's like buying a Ferrari and removing the logo with the horse.
If I wanted a plain Vanilla Android phone there would be plenty of cheaper solutions available. Many of them with custom roms being developed.
So why buy HTC and remove it's main feature?
This is obviously just my opinion. No flaming intended.

Well, it was my first smartphone ever, and what I got for 200€ is a nasty brick of bugs with hours extra work of fixing.
This piece of crap is not even capable of setting the clock correctly without rooting.
Then comes a update and they block my phone.
I'm really fed up of HTC "Quality", and want most of their "commercialware" removed now.
I will never buy any HTC again. I've had it.

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Who needs OTA? We have the stock RUU here already.
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I'm from mobile and I can't find the link for the official RUU. Can you please pm or post the link here? Thx
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

That's normal, once you get rooted, you're on your own.

Here.
TerrAme0 said:
I'm from mobile and I can't find the link for the official RUU. Can you please pm or post the link here? Thx
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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The RUU

Kind of off-topic, but on topic for the RUU update. Is it possible to installed Data2SD on this and be greater then 2 GB?

No, it's an official update.

miguelca said:
But did anyone seriously expect a different behavior?
HTC won't unlock the WFS bootloader as we already know... so how can anybody expect they would allow OTA updates on rooted phones?
Since I own HTC Android phones I never saw an OTA update working on a rooted or debranded phone (HTC Tattoo, HTC Desire, HTC Wildfire, HTC Wildfire S).
Before rooting or debranding (unbranding) everything is fine. When we "cross the line" we are on our own.
Any updates must be installed by us. Anyway that shouldn't be difficult to do...
IMHO that should be simple to understand.
I guess installing a modified recovery and then expecting for a free software update would be like showing the middle finger to HTC and still asking for candy.
Android is "open source" software but only until some extent. HTC puts a lot of modifications on their releases (mainly Sense and some addons).
If we want to "kit" or "mod" or phones we should be conscious of what we're doing.
The price to pay for being impatient or for wanting to have complete control of our devices is now pretty obvious.
I'm not saying I agree with this... on the contrary! HTC should unlock the booloader and let us do what we want.
However if we decide to take that path it's our problem.
If I put myself on HTC's boots I understand that rooting/debranding/modifying recovery is a valid reason for voiding warranty and locking future updates. With an user modified phone there is no guarantee that HTC can predict what will happen during the update process.
If something goes wrong there are possibly too many variables involved that are out of their control.
Just my two cents... sorry for my long posts mates.
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I don't rally want or expect the OTA update, but have it disabled in wifes phone, but it still comes up in menu bar n says update available.
Anyway to stop it displaying this?

Ron173 said:
I don't rally want or expect the OTA update, but have it disabled in wifes phone, but it still comes up in menu bar n says update available.
Anyway to stop it displaying this?
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Freeze the update notifier with titanium backup

Or just disable automatic update check..

Branded phone and future custom ROMS

Hi all, I've now a Vodafone branded phone, as for now I only have to wait for official updates (I'm no rooted and locked bootloader), I was thinking of what will happen when no more official updates are released, will I be able to install custom ROMS with the latest Android distribution or will I be stuck on the last one I will have officially received?
Because as for now I can't update to custom jb ROMS due to the incompatible hboot, bus as far as htc doesn't release more official updates shouldn't the hboot be the same for everyone?
I know this couldn't be a clear explanation, sorry for that, but I need to know if I've to sell my phone to get an unbranded one or not... I'd like to be able to use this phone as long as I don't break it, so this is so important to me,
Thanks
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

you just have to wait longer, you will get your JB update. Every hox will get it. Unbranded have it earlier because the provider don't need to add bloatware !
If HTC pushes out a update you will also get it, doesn't matter if you have vodaphone or any other provider.
This also counts for future updates.

Yes, i know that, my thoughts were for when htc will not release updates anymore, what will happen then? Will we be able to flash custom ROMS based in aosp builds or not because of the hboot?
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MarcelHofs said:
you just have to wait longer, you will get your JB update. Every hox will get it. Unbranded have it earlier because the provider don't need to add bloatware !
If HTC pushes out a update you will also get it, doesn't matter if you have vodaphone or any other provider.
This also counts for future updates.
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I think he wanted to know if he will get his JB update, will he be able to flash custom roms which need a newer hboot.
So as far as i know, if you get your OTA update, your hboot will also be updated to the new hboot and then you will be able to use all the custom roms which need the new hboot.
But nobody knows what will be if newer versions of Android will come out, maybe they will need again a newer hboot version. And as long as you have a carrier branded device you will always need to wait for your carrier update.
If the Dev's could achieve S-Off there wouldn't be a problem, but so far nobody has made it.
Edit:
AOSP works better with older hboot (under 1.23), for some reason the gps and some things are broken on newer hboot (over 1.23) and they often need a seperate kernel (boot.img) to work.
But there are also a lot of custom roms for the newer hboot in the other developement section.
However i don't know if dev's will decide to work only with the never hboot in the future.

Thanks, then as I thought there is no clue of what will happen for branded phones, so going for an unbranded seems the best choice, wouldn't it?
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Involved said:
Thanks, then as I thought there is no clue of what will happen for branded phones, so going for an unbranded seems the best choice, wouldn't it?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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It's always the best choice.
But much likely if HTC releases a update, the carriers will / should follow, even though they will need more time.
Also if HTC won't release any more updates we will all be stuck on the latest version and maybe devs won't be capable of developing the newest android version for our device.
And even unbranded devices need the right CID for the right update unless we have achieved S-Off.
However i think there will always be enough experimental and also stable versions for any hboot version - thx to all the devs.

I didn't consider that even unbranded phones would need the right CID and hboot, so we're all in the same boat, branded and unbranded... Won't definitely buy another phone with locked bootloader, unless the s-off has been already achieved..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Because of the above I will NEVER go to a carrier store for a phone again!!

I think in a way we got unlucky this time round, since the hboot is not forward compatible with the sense ROM. Let's hope it's a one off rather than a new sinister plan, and future updates do not require an updated hboot.

Let's hope that, seriously.
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The very ....very best thing that could happen now is S-OFF so we can downgrade the hboot at any time so we can flash newer and older hboots in an instant !
But this is still very unlikely ! :thumbdown: