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Hello,
I was so close to buy the Desire until I saw the ad of the Galaxy S..
Amazing screen (normal under sunlight), more powerful cpu/gpu.. but its Samsung! and after reading lots of comments they said that Samsung is crap! is it right? Why?
If its only the UI that is crap can I root it and install another room?
So, Should I wait for the Galaxy S or get the Desire?
Thanks.
DESIRE without doubt
It all depends on what you want. I have had Samsung phones in the past and they were pretty good. Those types of responses remind me of students in college who say "Yea...that professor is hard and rude...don't take him!'
IMHO the best thing to do is get some hands-on time with both of them if possible. Even try them out for a couple of days. That is the only way you will actually know which one is right for you.
you will actually know which one is right for you.
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What do u mean by that?
They are the same super phones but with some advantages to the Galaxy, right?
I will use my phone for apps, games, multimedia, browsing etc. (not for business..) so I think both those phones are the top for these kind of stuff..
I just dont understand why everyone hates so much Samsung..
leoon said:
What do u mean by that?
They are the same super phones but with some advantages to the Galaxy, right?
I will use my phone for apps, games, multimedia, browsing etc. (not for business..) so I think both those phones are the top for these kind of stuff..
I just dont understand why everyone hates so much Samsung..
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In other words...use your buyers-remorse, return/exchange period to try out both phones. Do research when the Samsung Galaxy S comes out and see what others have to say on the forums.
The worst thing you can do is be biased towards one or the other. If you believe what others say about Samsung and how sh*tty they are, then once you actually do see the phone...you will try to find some sort of discrepancy with it (its simple psychology )
Yes, the Galaxy has a bigger screen and a "rumored" faster processor. However, until the final product is made and released...the hardware and software can still change.
leoon said:
What do u mean by that?
They are the same super phones but with some advantages to the Galaxy, right?
I will use my phone for apps, games, multimedia, browsing etc. (not for business..) so I think both those phones are the top for these kind of stuff..
I just dont understand why everyone hates so much Samsung..
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Samsung are fully behind their new Bada OS. They've stated that only 20% or less of their devices from now on will run Android and I only expect that to go down. That and HTC are the de facto hardware standard for all Android devices.
Haha you have no clue.
Actually, 50% of Samsung phones will be Android and another 33% will be Bada. The rest is for Windows Phones and other crap.
In response to the thread question: I chose the Desire, because the Galaxy S doesn't have a flash for the camera.
One (and the only!) annoyance with the Desire is the limited internal storage for applications. It's only 140MB. You can install applications to the SD card, but it will still go down. According to Google, the option to install to the SD card will come to Android 'soon'.
The Galaxy S will also have the better screen I think. That's because the Desire's screen is not full 800x480, because it uses a pixel layout with only two sub-pixels instead of three, which makes it seem a little bit blurry (but really just a little bit).
And last, but not least, I think HTC's software is probably better than Samsung's. Sense (even if you don't like the launcher) is a very useful add-on (e.g. the much better dialer) and I am not sure about whether Samsung is able to compete in that regard.
I chose the Desire, because the Galaxy S doesn't have a flash for the camera.
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It seems that you choose the Desire just because the galaxys doesnt have flash! even though the screen+cpu+720p video recording and still only for the lack of flash you dont choose the galaxys!?
What im gonna do is to wait till its released and read the indepth review about the phone.
Thanks for the replies goys.. i choose to wait.
I feel compelled to point out a few things in this discussion.
First, assuming that "buyer's remorse" is a global standard is a mistake. In many countries, including Sweden where I'm based, you can return products for up to 30 days after a purchase with the caveat that the package/seal is unbroken. This applies to electronics. This means that everybody needs to check up on their local regulations and that of the retailer before you go out and buy something, expecting to be able to fiddle with it and then just return it.
Secondly, calling Bada an OS is a misnomer. It's a platform. A platform that can be placed on many different OS's. To me, it sounds like Samsung will be releasing several phones with Bada on top of their own proprietary operating system until they can either see a clear winner of the OS market share battle or until the OS's catch up with what they want and know they can offer the market in terms of functionality. Of course, where the boundary between the platform and the OS goes is kind of an unknown, but I would be surprised if the Galaxy S didn't have an Android version of Bada placed on top of it - think of it as Samsung's Sense.
Thirdly and lastly, I think there is a lot of displeasure with Samsung among smartphone users because they have a tendency to both promise more than they can deliver and after the first few months of a new smartphone release quit updating the software. I own an Omnia i900 and an Omnia HD i8910 and speak from experience on this front. Mind you, the devices they put out are generally top-notch, but Samsung has a problem managing expectations.
My Desire is currently my main phone, but I'm still interested in the Galaxy S and will be waiting to see what the consumer verdict on it is once it comes out. As others have said, HTC offers a very useful overlay in Sense, the Desire is already rooted (you should never assume a phone will ever be rooted when you buy it, but it's more likely that HTC will, and in the case of the Desire it's already a fact) and, more than anything, the Desire development community is huge, active and dedicated. So at the end of the day, opting to wait several more months just to get a larger screen and a promise of 720p video recording does have its downsides.
I'm pretty interested in the Galaxy S, will almost certainly get one soon after release and see how I like it, so I can give a users comparison of both nearer the time. As per usual I'll keep whichever suits my use best.
Regards the pros for the Galaxy S, these are the main things as I see them, a few mentioned earlier and a few not yet mentioned:
- screen will be considerably better, more battery efficient, better sunlight legibility, larger, won't have the subpixels issue
- better battery capacity
- 8 or 16GB internal memory in addition to card slot
- the stills camera in all situations not requiring a flash is likely to be considerably better than the Desire's
- 720P video capture
- divx/xvid/mkv support out of the box, with certification for 720P avi playback
Worth noting that the last two there may yet come to the Desire, since they have been rumoured to be coming via firmware update for some time.
The main positives for the Desire is Root, more active Dev community, better HTC support in terms of FW upgrades/hotfixes etc.
Lets say it gets rooted, Will I be able to install into the Galaxy S the ROM of the Desire, so I can take advantage of the active dev community?
Thanks.
In theory, yes, you can. But there will be issues, which means it may not be worth it.
I think not, maybe, but different drivers..it would take time for sure!
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It seems that you choose the Desire just because the galaxys doesnt have flash! even though the screen+cpu+720p video recording and still only for the lack of flash you dont choose the galaxys!?
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Yes, just because of the flash. I absolutely need it, that's why I chose the Desire.
Other than the missing flash, the Galaxy looks quite good.
@NZtechfreak
Your points are right, except for the part about the camera. The Desire uses a camera module made by Samsung. The Galaxy will very likely use the exact same camera module. And of course, at night, it will be useless without the flash.
Galaxy S may be better hardware-wise, but..
It's possible that Galaxy S won't have flash (but there are some rumors it will), so that is a dealbreaker for me (the reason why I switched from the Hero).
The other (more important) reason is that previous Android phones from Samsung had almost no scene development going on. Just compare the Dream/Hero scene to the Galaxy i7500.
Last but not least Samsungs support and bugfixing is worse that HTCs (yes, it is possible ).
That is why I decided to go with the Desire. If you don't mind waiting I would suggest to wait for the Nexus Two.
Or you can wait until the Google I/O Conference...
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As others have said, HTC offers a very useful overlay in Sense, the Desire is already rooted (you should never assume a phone will ever be rooted when you buy it, but it's more likely that HTC will, and in the case of the Desire it's already a fact) and, more than anything, the Desire development community is huge, active and dedicated.
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Hi all, been reading the Desire threads with interest as I'm able to upgrade in July, currently have a Blackstone, and at the mo it's most definately looking like the Desire will be my new phone, looks like a superb piece of kit, but, I need to use tethering on whatever handset I have, and up until now thought I would have to do this on a Desire via USB, because you can't do it wirelessly unless you root first.
Everything I have read here and anywhere else up until I read the above post says the Desire needs rooting to do this.
So, is it already rooted out of the box or not ? I'm puzzled !
Comments from a tester of RC1 firmware Galaxy S in an Australian forum:
- much faster in use than Desire
- much better screen (brightness, vividness & outdoors visibility)
- better battery life time than Desire with stock ROM (no hacks)
- camera is only ok
- very responsive touch
Just FYI. I think both phones are great.
two phones are great and the galaxy s does have super amoled, altho desire have amoled, super amoled is better under the sun. but somehow i don't like how the galaxy looks. it looks - plain, boring..
hopefully htc will release the update when froyo is out together with some fixes and 720p recording.
The only Android phone I would buy is Google branded or HTC. Because they have much more experience with Android than others, and they are more connected together. Also updates will be much more regular for Desire, since it is almost N1 clone. And community for HTC Android phones is much bigger than for Samsung.
Hi,
I currently own a Hero and am thinking of upgrading to either a Desire or a Nexus One. They run about the same price for me if the Nexus One is a slightly used (Ebay).
The biggest problem I had with the Hero is that it takes HTC FOREVER to update the OS. With the Nexus One, the OS is updated fairly regularly.
Given that the Desire is a HTC phone, which of the two would you suggest ?
Thanks
J
The phones are near identical in terms of hardware except the Nexus has a second mic for noise cancelisation (not really an issue on the Desire) and has a trackball instead of an optical trackpad and the Nexus has touch buttons instead of real buttons.
I personally prefer HTC Sense UI but some prefer stock Android. It all depends on your needs. You are right that Google release the updates to the Nexus One sooner than other phones get it, but that's because it doesn't have a skin or other cool integrations with social networks etc.
I was in the same position when I was looking at a new phone and ultimately went for the Desire for Sense and physical buttons -- it's just personal preference
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The biggest problem I had with the Hero is that it takes HTC FOREVER to update the OS. With the Nexus One, the OS is updated fairly regularly.
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To be fair to HTC on this one, they were much, much quicker with the Froyo update for the Desire. Nexus One got the "official" Froyo update (note, I'm not talking about the early press release) around the beginning of July, and Desire got it beginning of August.
That being said, I don't expect the Desire to ever get a Gingerbread release, but if the specs of the Desire HD (HTC Ace) are correct, given the similarity to the Desire, it's possible we could still get another update.
Regards,
Dave
I would go for the Desire just for sense. I really love this interface. I've used roms with stock android -no sense- and I just can't get used to it. If you're coming from the hero, I would get the Desire.
On the other hand, Nexus One will be the first to get updates.
Obviously people in the Desire forums will says Desire
As said, it's personal preference. I like the hardware buttons and trackpad of the Desire. Nexus One will get updates sooner, but remember that these devices are not flagships for long anymore. In the US you already have better devices, and the Desire HD is coming up. I don't think we will be getting any more official updates. We might have a chance at getting gingerbread, but probably later than the better devices that will be on the market by then.
So in short: I wouldn't go for the Nexus just because of one update you will maybe get a month before the Desire, but maybe not get at all.
If it was me, I would base my decision on the following differences, and decide which things are most important to me.
Cost
Sense
Hardware Buttons
Track Pad vs Track Ball
Updates
Custom ROMS
Cost, Desire is cheaper - Desire wins
Sense, I love it - Desire wins.
Hardware buttons, I prefer buttons - Desire wins.
Track Pad vs Track Ball, I use a Blackberry, and regularly have to replace the track ball. The optical trackpad on the Desire made me want the Desire over the N1. As it turns out however, I hardly use the Desire's track pad, and when I do, I wish it was a track ball - Nexus One wins.
Updates, any OTA update for Android will hit the N1 first, whether it will get Gingerbread is unknown, but if it does, it will get it before the Desire, and I'm sure that if the N1 can run it, then so can the Desire. If the N1 cannot run 3.0, the neither will the Desire. Result - If the N1 runs 3.0, then it's the N1, if not, it's a draw.
Custom ROMs, both phones are easily modded with custom ROMs, so you can have Sense on an N1, and vanilla Android on a Desire - draw.
That was my decision process, you can make your own mind up!
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If it was me, I would base my decision on the following differences, and decide which things are most important to me.
Cost
Sense
Hardware Buttons
Track Pad vs Track Ball
Updates
Custom ROMS
Cost, Desire is cheaper - Desire wins
Sense, I love it - Desire wins.
Hardware buttons, I prefer buttons - Desire wins.
Track Pad vs Track Ball, I use a Blackberry, and regularly have to replace the track ball. The optical trackpad on the Desire made me want the Desire over the N1. As it turns out however, I hardly use the Desire's track pad, and when I do, I wish it was a track ball - Nexus One wins.
Updates, any OTA update for Android will hit the N1 first, whether it will get Gingerbread is unknown, but if it does, it will get it before the Desire, and I'm sure that if the N1 can run it, then so can the Desire. If the N1 cannot run 3.0, the neither will the Desire. Result - If the N1 runs 3.0, then it's the N1, if not, it's a draw.
Custom ROMs, both phones are easily modded with custom ROMs, so you can have Sense on an N1, and vanilla Android on a Desire - draw.
That was my decision process, you can make your own mind up!
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You don't use your trackpad?! I use mine all the time when typing. Either to move the cursor or select the right word suggestion as it's right below the keyboard it's perfect.
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You don't use your trackpad?! I use mine all the time when typing. Either to move the cursor or select the right word suggestion as it's right below the keyboard it's perfect.
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I don't make mistakes when i'm typing , but if I did, I would prefer a track ball (and a proper Blackberry keyboard) any day.
It's because I can type one-handed with a Blackberry, that I turned down the offer of an Android phone for my job. I also did not want two Desires.
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I don't make mistakes when i'm typing , but if I did, I would prefer a track ball (and a proper Blackberry keyboard) any day.
It's because I can type one-handed with a Blackberry, that I turned down the offer of an Android phone for my job. I also did not want two Desires.
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After playing with my sister's Blackberry I couldn't handle one as my main phone. I guess if I had two it'd be okay but that software is just appalling.
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After playing with my sister's Blackberry I couldn't handle one as my main phone. I guess if I had two it'd be okay but that software is just appalling.
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Agreed. Blackberry for email, Desire/Android for everything else.
Did you know the nexus one is now discontinued, and Google have closed the nexus one store.
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Nexus
My vote is for Nexus and i have no doubt about it.
N1 gets any updates far before any other phone, Gingerbread is almost 100% for it
N1 is the official google's developers phone, and most of the developers release their applications for N1 before any other phone,
stock is much faster than sense and any other UIs.
there is absolutely no custom modifications in Sense that can't be flashed into N1. and desire has nothing exclusive for itself.
the best custom ROM out there is cyanogenmod which is released for N1 at first and after that for other phones.
N1 has a modern design (body, battery cover, excellent trackball colors and notifications , etc)
N1 has microphone for noise cancellation.
N1 has car dock and desktop dock support.
finally N1 is being discontinued at google store and this is another advantage for it, i personally do not like my phone to be in hands of many people. also this situation has an effect in rising the price of N1 and i like this.
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Did you know the nexus one is now discontinued, and Google have closed the nexus one store.
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Sorry, but this is rubbish!
Google have closed *their* online store, but the Nexus One is still being produced and is still available from other channels! See here for details - it's also available direct from carriers, such as Vodafone in the UK.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for all the replies.. Getting the Nexus One for AT&T bands generally requires going through EBay and the like..
I am kicking myself for not having got it when I had the chance. I'll look into the Desire.
J
quarq said:
Hi,
I currently own a Hero and am thinking of upgrading to either a Desire or a Nexus One. They run about the same price for me if the Nexus One is a slightly used (Ebay).
The biggest problem I had with the Hero is that it takes HTC FOREVER to update the OS. With the Nexus One, the OS is updated fairly regularly.
Given that the Desire is a HTC phone, which of the two would you suggest ?
Thanks
J
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i'd hold out for a few months and look to get the next evolution of handsets in Q4
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i'd hold out for a few months and look to get the next evolution of handsets in Q4
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I second this. Looks like the Desire HD is set for unveiling on the 15th September.
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i'd hold out for a few months and look to get the next evolution of handsets in Q4
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If you keep holding out for the phone on the horizon you will never get a phone. The Desire HD will will be an Android version of the HD2. I find the current Desire to be a perfect size and functionality is great, I just hope they tweak the camera and camcorder for better performance.
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Jabbafat23 said:
If you keep holding out for the phone on the horizon you will never get a phone. The Desire HD will will be an Android version of the HD2. I find the current Desire to be a perfect size and functionality is great, I just hope they tweak the camera and camcorder for better performance.
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Indeed. Besides, the prices of the current phones reflect their age.
It doesn't really matter if you get N1 or Desire. They are both fine phones and perform almost identical. I personally prefer Sens UI, so I went for Desire.
I'll also give one plus for HTC Support and the physical buttons on Desire.
I had this exact same debate when I got my desire. The Nexus one was £5 a month more expensive (£120 over the 2 year contract) for pretty much the same phone, in a different casing.
I preferred the hardware buttons and overall feel of the Desire. I'm not a massive fan of capacitive buttons.
The optical trackpad on the Desire is a disappointment and doesn't work very well. I previously owned an HTC Magic which had a trackball, that was excellent and I used it all the time. So Nexus definitely wins on that one (plus the N1 trackball glows in different colours, which is a win).
I think I made the right decision though. The Desire has slightly more RAM (probably because of Sense UI) which is a plus, don't worry about updates for the Desire, we always have things ported from the N1 forum days after it appears on the N1. If you are happy to root then there are tons of roms to choose from - Sense or Stock Android.
Either would be a good upgrade from the Hero. In your position I would get the Desire or wait a few weeks longer and get the Desire HD.
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If you keep holding out for the phone on the horizon you will never get a phone.
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True, but there's generally a point in the lifetime of any phone beyond which you may just as well wait for the next generation.
IMHO, if the Desire HD/ACE is going to be launched mid-September, with availability soon thereafter, there's little to be lost in waiting for it. Even if you don't buy one, it will likely occupy the same price point as the Desire currently does, meaning the Desire should get cheaper.
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Dave
With all the new versions of the Desire becoming available is the original Desire still the best?
I love my desire and I've had it for about 10 months or so. The wife's contract is due for renewal soon and she does seems to like my HTC desire.
It would be her first smart phone.
I'm very pleased with mine. I am currently running an older LeeDroid ROM (Soon to be upgraded with his latest to be released version).
Would the original Desire still cut the mustard for the next 18 months or so?
Desire has been around for around 1 Year and till today it is one of the top phones. I own a Desire myself and have to say it's a great phone till today.
There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
Desire HD is quite big and battery life is appaling.
Desire Z quite heavy.
All the new versions aren't that amazing that would make me jump to them instead of staying with my Original Desire.
I've heard good things about the samsung galaxy S 2 which is coming out in March.If you want to consider that.
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There's quite alot of phones coming out but nothing amazing has come out yet.
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True that - I was expecting dual-core HTCs early this year.
The way I see it, the Desire would probably get left behind by HTC in the following 3 or 4 months (right after we get the official Gingerbread in April) to make room for their newer (dual-core?) models. After that? Well, it's up to us to keep it "alive and kicking" with new ROMs and crazy experimental stuff.
I think for new people the Desire S is probably a good choice... enough internal memory and a good size.
I think this is the point of the S... to be something to bring new people in. I love the desire original and wouldn't upgrade to an S
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I think it is one of the best phones around still around.
I like the Desire S, think it looks quite nice, but not enough internal differences to justify an upgrade just yet.
I don't really like the Desire HD. Much too large to use with just one hand. Desire Z is a bit heavy, but I guess it caters for the people who prefer a physical keyboard.
I've still got about 14 months left with my Desire, so nearly 18 months, and I'm more than sure it'll be just fine for that amount of time.
what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...
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what phone does your wife have at the moment?
I assume not a Desire - Desire / Desire S would make sense unless she wanted a bigger screen (Desire HD)
for me - like Jigswa said - the DHD is too big personally...
Oh also - unless you want rooting and custom roms and stuff - a DS would make sense (over the Desire Original) if you can hold out for it...
The only reason I say it is because its likely to be around for longer than the Desire original from an official capacity...
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She's currently got a Nokia 6700 I think. Nothing fancy. But with her love of Facebook and Angry Birds she want's to now get a smart phone. Oh and something she can use for mobile broadband i.e. tethering.
A colleague of mine has just got a Galaxy S and to me it seemed a bit lightweight and felt plasticy.
I'm, trying to get her a decent 18 month contract. I've seen a few good little deals.
She probably won't want exactly the same phone as me. So maybe a Desire S would be the better option.
Had 2 iPhones before finally taking the plunge into Android. Had my eye on the Desire for awhile and thank god I finally bought it. Running the Oxygen Gingerbread rom ATM.. easiest thing in the world to get running. Had it for about 8 months now too but I won't be upgrading atleast until dual-core htc's.
I know exactly where you are coming from with the Galaxy S feeling light and plasticy - the Desire feels more substantial - as long as you don't want a super light phone!
Also I felt the UI was clunky and too iPhone-esque
the DHD felt heavier than the Desire too.
Desire S will fix any issues with installing stuff to the phone too by having the same storage space as the DHD - it will have Gingerbread out the box, and a nice clean Sense UI win win all round.
Desire S seems a perfect phone for people who don't have Android already IMO!
Apart from weak GPU, weak multi-touch in games, and lack of native DIVX support, I think Desire is still a good phone if those are not important too you. The battery and the internal memory are not issues for me anymore with custom ROMS and HBOOT.
HTC Desire Is 5x better then S(boottime, apps launchtime..so many bugs) i realy like my Desire Using 8 months
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Not many people like the new Desire S because it's not that different from the standard Desire.Just a tiny bit different in memory.
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It is simply amazing how many people claim this, someone would get under impression it is true...
Desire S has moar internal memory, moar ram, packs 2nd generation Qualcomm cpus which rectify the first gen shortcomings, and on top of that, has better battery. Although it is not in the upgrade path for the original Desire owners, it is an upgrade nevertheless and excellent choice for the new users. You are trashing a device with superb specifications b4 it even went retail.
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Desire HD is quite big and battery life is appaling.
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I agree, a colleague of mine has it. My fist is of enough size to comfortably use the biggest mices, yet I can't reach the opposite end of the screen with my thumb
Battery is roughly equal to the original Desire, both devices out of the box.
The biggest issue in my opinion is that they stuffed equal resolution on 0.6" bigger screen. Greater dot pitch usually means lower quality, I haven't used it enough to be 100% sure though.
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The original Desire still has a lot of processing grunt compared to newer phones. Nothing is really better than it so to speak, a few phones are better at some things and worse at other but generally it's pretty level and just comes down to prefferance on a few features.
It'll be a sad day when I do retire my Desire its served me well so far and has at least a year left in it.
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Using my desire over 10 months now. I'm still satisfied with it's performance.
It 's my first htc phone.
I've had some doubts about build quality before, because that was told to me.
I can say that i'm suprised. Beeing always in my pocket without case or screen protection, it is still looking like new.
It is still fast en reliable.
If i would by a new phone, would be desire again or maybe thinking about desire S.
my fist android
From a long line of old symbian nokias i finally decided to make a hole in my budget and to get a new phone. As i was keeping a close eye on Android and the HTC Desire for some time i got that phone.
It was a very good phone with it's stock froyo, and know it's an excellent phone with the Oxygen rom.
As some of the other members say, i do not see any good reason to upgrade maybe until dual-core HTC's come out.
The normal Desire is still up-to-date. But when the Desire S will be out there in the wild it will be the better one. Still that quite compact design, whithout the week points the original archives (internal mem, multitouch).
The cost-benefit analysis will show up that the older Desire will still be ok for a long time even bought new.
I bought my desire 3 months ago, and the only thing that annoys me is the 2-point touchscreen... Multi-touch is a must to a device like this but we can't have everything so apart from that is the best phone i've ever had ! Desire S is cool but in my opinion at the moment we're between a generation change so next stop is dual core, and desire s is single core. I will change my phone next year probably to a htc dual-core that will be announced this year.
My good old desire never lets me down !
I agree with everyone here. It has been an amazing phone. Its handled mass rom fllashhing and crazy overclocking and its handled it brilliantly. Had no problems with it at all. Rather have this than a Nexus, but I would like a DHD because the bigger screen.
I got a Galaxy Tab 4 months ago and since then my Desire has been neglected as it doesn't compete with the Tab. Recently got back into using it and I've realised why I fell in love with it.
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I suggest you stick around with the HTC Desire till the end of the year or whenver Dual Core phones are released. The new models don't offer much of an advantage and I heard the HTC Desire HD has worst voice quality sound than the Desire....... The voice quality sound on the Desire is pretty terrible so I don't know how HTC managed to make it even worst with the Desire HD.
hopefully it will still work
I am not one for changing my phone when something new comes out and unless something breaks it will have to last me 2 years. The worry I have is will the microusb connecter last that long. Supposedly is it designed for up to 10,000 cycles of insertion but my niece has some sort of nokia with this connecter and its a struggle after 14 months to get it to charge (I have had to give her my htc lead and charger as it is the only one that works).
I don't like capitative keys, I had the ipod that had them and it was god awful to use , too sensitive. So the desire s is a step back from my pov
The desire is a nice phone and does me very well thanks
OK, So I'm shopping for a new phone,
I've been enjoying getting my feet wet with a comparatively low end model & am becoming somewhat addicted to constantly tinkering, have managed to compile my own kernel and now feel the need for an upgrade.
This (Desire Z) is currently at the top of my list as it seems to be well supported by the dev community & I really want a qwerty keypad!
So, as users of this phone & knowing what you know now...
Would you buy this phone again?
Well, I love my Z and i think it works fast and the keyboard is amazing. But the problem these days is: Dual core phones are coming out a lot right now, and even the fast processor of the G2 can't compare to that. So, as much as i love my Desire Z, I would wait a while for a Dual Core HTC (like the Pyramid).
But ofcourse: If you REALLY want a phone right now, a Desire Z with an Otterbox Commuter case is my recommendation! (since I personally love the Otterbox case, hehe.)
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Well, I love my Z and i think it works fast and the keyboard is amazing. But the problem these days is: Dual core phones are coming out a lot right now, and even the fast processor of the G2 can't compare to that. So, as much as i love my Desire Z, I would wait a while for a Dual Core HTC (like the Pyramid).
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Cool, thanks for the input...
I hear what you're saying, my thinking right now is that in order to learn more about kernel & ROM development, is that I should be getting something that has a good amount of hacking & dev work behind it already.
The newer phones are less charted waters & I'm not experienced enough to be a pioneer
Will be sure to look at the otterbox case
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Cool, thanks for the input...
I hear what you're saying, my thinking right now is that in order to learn more about kernel & ROM development, is that I should be getting something that has a good amount of hacking & dev work behind it already.
The newer phones are less charted waters & I'm not experienced enough to be a pioneer
Will be sure to look at the otterbox case
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Yep, that's also true. And indeed, there is alof of development going on for the Desire Z, it's great. And so many awesome roms to choose from as well.
As Hubba88 said, at this point, I'd wait for a dual core like the HTC Pyramid/Sensation. But, I love my G2 and am very happy with the purchase. Great keyboard, capacitive buttons are in the right place, very responsive trackpad. All in all typically great HTC build quality. CyanogenMod support is a huge plus as well for this phone.
If I knew that the z hinge was going to be so ****ty no,I would not buy it again. I'd go for a unibody design instead.
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If the keyboard is important to you, as well as the tinkering aspect, then I reckon this is a good phone.
Not sure there has been much talk of dual core's with keyboards? So a real Desire Z upgrade may be some way beyond the next few HTC phones. Even then when they come out it takes time to build the developer base behind it and get rooting sorted etc. I moved a month and a bit ago and reckon there will be nothing to make me desperately want an upgrade for at least a year.
Look how well the desire has done and still does. The DZ has a better processor and more storage on board etc. The overclockability of the chip seems to be something that will extend its lifespan in terms of performance against the newer phones.
Always worth remembering that there is often quite a difference between phones being rumoured, then announced, and then actually on sale and being hacked. Therefore if a desire Z replacement is not yet in the rumours, it will likely be quite a while before its out there in the real world.
So yeah, I think its a good phone, although not perfect.
As I have insurance with my contract I will be OK with any problems with the Hinge - but none so far.
I voted yes but if I were in the market for a phone now I'd wait till the G2x was available and compare side by side. I suspect I'd get that one because it's newer, faster and has a more future proof AT&T compatible radio.
Thanks all for your input so far,
I've been following the Official thread on which phone should I get for some weeks which does talk about the latest & greatest dual core's an awful lot, but, as I said above the support & dev work that has gone into the DZ already is probably the biggest factor for me, it should give me a good base to work/learn from.
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Look how well the desire has done and still does. The DZ has a better processor and more storage on board etc. The overclockability of the chip seems to be something that will extend its lifespan in terms of performance against the newer phones.
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I saw in Hubba88's sig that 1.3Ghz is achievable, that seems more than fast enough given the apps that are currently available. I'm thinking it will take a while for any apps to be taking advantage of dual cores...
Re Hinge, well I can cope with that if it becomes an issue, the teardown & repair looks pretty straight forward.
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Thanks all for your input so far,
I've been following the Official thread on which phone should I get for some weeks which does talk about the latest & greatest dual core's an awful lot, but, as I said above the support & dev work that has gone into the DZ already is probably the biggest factor for me, it should give me a good base to work/learn from.
I saw in Hubba88's sig that 1.3Ghz is achievable, that seems more than fast enough given the apps that are currently available. I'm thinking it will take a while for any apps to be taking advantage of dual cores...
Re Hinge, well I can cope with that if it becomes an issue, the teardown & repair looks pretty straight forward.
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Even 1.9 ghz is achievable . And I haven't had any problems with my hinge, it's pretty sturdy.
If you need a phone now, get the DZ.
If you can wait, wait until the quad core phones come out in 2012.
I love my G2 but I would not buy this phone again. With Swiftkey I find that I never use the hardware keyboard which was the main reason I bought my G2. If I could go back in time I would get a Nexus S or maybe a galaxy s.
Obvious answer is obvious:
Why get the same phone again when it has been 6 months since it first came out, therefore rendering the phone "obsolete", so to speak. If I had half a grand cash in my pocket right now I would wait for the HTC Pyramid (Their Dual Core).
Hi All
I want to generate a poll about you, desire users.
About using my desire after a year I'm planing to change it.
Some of the reasons,
Low internal storage
Mismultitocuh screen
Lower process power than new phones.
You! Desire User! Which one you ll buy?
You can write your own models...
My choice is SGS2
rouvax said:
Hi All
I want to generate a poll about you, desire users.
About using my desire after a year I'm planing to change it.
Some of the reasons,
Low internal storage
Mismultitocuh screen
Lower process power than new phones.
You! Desire User! Which one you ll buy?
You can write your own models...
My choice is SGS2
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Never had problems with my desire I would keep it if I could but Im just a tech freak and i like the new stuff so far my fav android phone when I will be able to upgrade is sgs2 though I am not sure about the size, ill check it out better when it will be more accessible
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
HTC Sensation/SGS2 - depends on the hands-on test, when I'm tested them both.
I'm little angry with touchscreen of my desire and htc.
And as I search for some touchscreen documents and i saw that Samsung using best Touchscreen hardware. (ATMEL)
And also SAMOLED+ pulling me.
Sensation has lower internal memory that makes me angry.
rouvax said:
I'm little angry with touchscreen of my desire and htc.
And as I search for some touchscreen documents and i saw that Samsung using best Touchscreen hardware. (ATMEL)
And also SAMOLED+ pulling me.
Sensation has lower internal memory that makes me angry.
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And also worst camera and screen and probably a battery life
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
After rooting my desire I have had little issues with storage but am noticing processor speed starting to not handle some apps and games, I do like more of a stock Android look so I might go with an Atrix with Launcher Pro UI...but before my new phone it will be a Motorola Xoom!!!!
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My answer is none of those lol..i'm just not impressed enough by the new dual-core processors, i guess i'll wait for some 2ghz(+) one before i drop my Desire
Something that will have an android 2.4 already. Im going to wait till google i/o next month. We might see some monster phones before the year ends that runs on 2.4.
I will not buy a SGS2 cause i might wait another year just for me to get an upgrade knowing how much crap they put on touchwiz. It will take them forever just to port 2.4 on on sgs2. The same for sensation.
No matter what, I am waiting for 2012 for a new phone for a couple of reasons.
1) I want a brilliant dual core (1.5GHz)
2) My contract doesn't run out till Dec this year anyway.
The Desire is still one of the most powerful phones on the market and getting something like a Nexus S will be defeating the purposes of upgrading. So dual core for me with a pretty good graphics chip. Not bothered about OS version. 2.3 is good enough for me.
I think it's good time to sell my desire, it makes 300$ in Turkey now adays and this is a good number for here. If i wait for some more time , i cant sell it for this number.
I think sensation and sgs2 will take 2.4 easily
Meaple said:
No matter what, I am waiting for 2012 for a new phone for a couple of reasons.
1) I want a brilliant dual core (1.5GHz)
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Same here. Don't see the point upgrading to another single core.
None of the Poll devices. My next phone will have HW keyboard. But not sure will I get a new device for years. Desire rocks. Been rocking a year next month.
I will possibly get the HTC Sensation, provided it's rootable and "s-offable" not too long after release.
I got the Incredible S but only kept it a couple of weeks because it's too heavily protected (signed bootloader says hello). It was a nice phone though but my Desire can do much more so I went back to it.
Same here. My contract end in 2012 and there is currently no worthy replacement for my Desire with CM7.
"other"
the HTC Evo 3D will not be released in the UK (according to HTC) so I will be going for the LG Optimus 3D
I will try the this one: Lumigon T1 . It is the companies first cellphone, so ill try
HTC for me ))
And Sensation all the way )) I'll wait a bit when the prices drop
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"other"
the HTC Evo 3D will not be released in the UK (according to HTC) so I will be going for the LG Optimus 3D
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Do you have a source for this?
Because I was really looking forward to a GSM version of this. HTC France twitter said something about getting it and france uses GSM.
I do like the look of the Optimus 3D but LG is a bit meh...
and I love HTC sense!
I'm most probably going to buy the HTC Sensation. The only thing I can think of that would make me change my mind would be the battery life. If the phone can't handle over a day of medium to heavy usage, I'm not going to buy it. I complained endlessly when I get my Desire because of it's terrible battery life. Then I found out that good Android phones don't really get much better battery life.
Hmmm...I don't plan to get a new phone this year...but....
I vote for Sensation.