[Q] Steps to Root? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've read different articles.. but what isn't clear the right order to do things.
So i have it right in my head does it go like this?
1. Format SD-Card, 1GB Ext4 ( i want to try RCMIX)
2. install HTC Sync.
3. uninstall HTC Sync but leave USB drivers
4. install Unrevokes modded HBOOT USB Drivers.
5. Root using UnRevoke.
now does at this stage install a new recovery ? ie so a Nandroid backup can be made?
6. Nandroid backup (incase S-OFF fails)? is this installed by UNREVOKE process?
7. S-Off (via boot CD)
8. Nandroid backup again (just incase)
9. install new HBOOT ie CM7r2
10. Install ROM.
11. do i need to install latest Clockwork Recovery, or does that break things that was installed for S-Off.?
12.. pray all went well and hope contacts sync back from Google.
could someone review the above in adjust where needed please.
Much appreciated.

Yes that's proper steps, Recovery will be installed with UnRevoked.
Also be sure when you're doing S-OFF to have rooted stock ROM, no "data2ext" ones.

Thanks,
what i forgot to make clear in the above, is im coming from STOCK Rom, the SD Card has been preformatted for EXT-4 partition, but there still loads on the SDC for the current stock rom.
at what point in the above do i do a full wipe, and does any the process wipe the SDC FAT+Ext-4 partition.
I would guess its better to have a clean SDC before a new ROM is installed ?
cheers

Do full wipe after you have done Nandroid backup.
Cleaning SDC before installing ROM is good idea. ;-)
Full Wipe/Factory reset will format your EXT partition.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

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[Q] noob question before rooting...

Just about to root and install a custom rom but have a few questions:
I know how to root by using paul's r6 method, and also how to install a rom but my question is, I have tried searching and cant find an answer:
I want to use A2SD+, have an 8Gb micro sd card installed, which i have backedup on my PC but how to i prepare this for A2SD+?
I also have an old radio, how do i update to the newest radio 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20? i have downloaded the file but not sure what to do
can anyone help?
cheers and sorry if this has been covered but i couldnt find it
Easy way:
Once you root, install ROM Manager from the Market and tell it to partition your SDCard.
Hard(er) way:
Use ADB. When I tried this I just got errors about it not being able to find the partitioning thing so someone else will have to help with that.
how to use ADB way? isn't this sub-forum wrong to ask these?
should be only for development questions
Laridia said:
Easy way:
Once you root, install ROM Manager from the Market and tell it to partition your SDCard.
Hard(er) way:
Use ADB. When I tried this I just got errors about it not being able to find the partitioning thing so someone else will have to help with that.
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Great thanks, what about installing the new radio? do it first or root first, custom rom then new radio? what order?
»You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium«
ok thanks
so just by rooting it doesnt erase my data? e.g. contacts etc?
kmetek said:
»You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium«
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Nope if you do everything tip-top you shouldn't....in 99%...
kmetek said:
Nope if you do everything tip-top you shouldn't....in 99%...
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Great, thanks for the help, will try tomorrow as its late here!
Cheers for the quick replies!

Recovery not accepted?

I rooted and flashed Cyanogen Mod 7, which automatically comes with CWM recovery, I've been wanting to replace CWM with AmonRa's recovery image and I followed all the steps here and my phone seemed to accept it. Except when I power down and boot into recovery, it's still CWM, not Ra's.
Problem? I don't understand why it is not replacing the CWM recovery boot
Using a TELUS Rooted HTC Desire GSM
i've tried updating recovery many times myself without success until a few days ago. i used fastboot. it should work. quite simple too.
What was the process? I'm still new to rooting and flashing things
Fast boot -> Terminal commands -> Reboot to recovery?
Should be
Code:
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash recovery "filename".img
You can find more on fastboot here:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fastboot
Make sure to do a nandroid backup first!
I think I need to delte something?
I did the steps again from fastboot
$su
#flash_image recovery/sd/card/name_of_recovery_img
usage: flash_image partition file.img
#
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Not sure
Have you got s-off as well as root?
sdkim89 said:
What was the process? I'm still new to rooting and flashing things
Fast boot -> Terminal commands -> Reboot to recovery?
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One can only use fastboot if s-off.
Maybe this works:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...sh-a-permanent-recovery-image-with-unrevoked/
I highly recommend to use linux, with windows it does not work very often.
Oh, no I am still S-On afaik
I've read that the S-Off process may brick my phone so I haven't tried yet, guess I should probably do that first. I need Amon because of the partition options, CWM only allows 512MB partition for my SD, I need 1GB at least because I am trying to flash RCMix S mod
I already installed EXT-3 afaik
Alright so I'm going to look for a failproof method for S-off, then fastboot with the instructions, and hopefully end up with Amon.
Also another question is:
Factory Reset = Full Wipe?
& before switching from ROM to another ROM, I should format cache&do factory reset, format partition --> install EXT3 partition w/ 1GB, then install from SD? (assuming I have the .zip file in my SD)
sdkim89 said:
Oh, no I am still S-On afaik
I've read that the S-Off process may brick my phone so I haven't tried yet, guess I should probably do that first. I need Amon because of the partition options, CWM only allows 512MB partition for my SD, I need 1GB at least because I am trying to flash RCMix S mod
I already installed EXT-3 afaik
Alright so I'm going to look for a failproof method for S-off, then fastboot with the instructions, and hopefully end up with Amon.
Also another question is:
Factory Reset = Full Wipe?
& before switching from ROM to another ROM, I should format cache&do factory reset, format partition --> install EXT3 partition w/ 1GB, then install from SD? (assuming I have the .zip file in my SD)
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As far as i know, a full wipe is a heavier formatting than a factory reset. With a factory reset you set the rom to the state where it came from, with a full wipe you will be unable to start a rom.
Before switching to another rom, backup all apps and userdata, perform a full wipe (NOT a factory reset), and flash new rom. You do not need to partition or format the ext partition again, because the content on it was deleted by the full wipe (aka wipe all userdata). The fat 32 partition or the content on it won't be touched by a full wipe.
After flashing is finished, restore apps and userdata if switching from sense to sense rom.
If switching from sense to non-sense rom or reverse, only restore apps. Otherwise there will be heavy and strange system problems.
Everything seems to be working now - I re-went through the noob-proof thread again and S-Off'd safely
Good news!

How the F&#! does one install MIUI?!?!

Im coming from Leedroid 2.5 D, and im a bit confused...
Do i have to flash a CM7 HBOOT? How do i flash that with Leedroid still installed? Same As normal? Will it mess up leedroid by adding a new Hboot? Is there a stock Version?
I wish i knew what i was doing. All the amount of reading in the world isnt helping, cause none of it makes any sense. Im not familiar with Linux @ all
Thank you
Are you S-On or S-Off? This is fundamental in everything you do related to flashing roms. If you are S-Off then you can flash custom hboots (such as CM7) which alter the way that your phones internal memory is laid out.
Now I'll assume that you're S-On and haven't changed your phones hboot partitions as I'm sure that you would know if you had!
Basically, you can flash ANY rom that says it uses a 'Stock' Hboot. Simply look for that option and if it isn't there then you cannot use it. Generally, installing any new ROM requires you to wipe everything from recovery, that is factory reset / wipe date, wipe partition and then in the advanced menu wipe Dalvik cache. You then flash the ROM. See below before doing this however.
My advice to people new to this (having got root and CWM recovery) would be to install MyBackUp or Titanium (I use MyBackUp and even bought it!) and backup everything, apps, data, the lot. Then boot into recovery, do a Nandroid backup (this backup is literally a snapshot of your entire phone, OS, apps, contacts, literally the entire phone!) and whilst in recovery, mount the SD card and copy EVERYTHING to your PC and keep the resulting file safe.
You can then partition the card if needed (for the EXT) and format the whole thing and then copy everything back from the PC to the SD card and also copy across your desired ROM. Flash the new ROM, go to the Market and re-download MyBackUp or Titanium and then reinstall everything.
If all else fails then you can go into recovery and select backups and restore and select restore and have your phone back to how it was.
first see what HBoot is the rom compatible with, they all state it with the rom.
MIUI-XJ] July 17-1.7.17 GB 2.3.4 EN-MULT+OTA+CM+Updater|D2EXT X-PART|A2SD+|D2W
if you're on about this rom.
2011-07-08 Releases
MIUI XJ D2EXT X-PART 1.7.8 - 2.3.4 GS 3P FINAL
this one is ok for stock HBoot, i tried it myself.
Do an NANDROID Buckup first.
then wipe everything (cache+dalvick cache) and flash the rom, and wait for it to boot. thats it. not a big deal.
Also, you cannot change Hboot without a ROM reinstall. A CM7 Hboot ROM will not work on a stock Hboot for instance. Pick a Hboot that you want and only install ROM's that match that Hboot. You can also Nandroid these (make a backup in CWM recovery) and switch between them simply by clicking 'Restore' but you can only do this if your Hboot has not changed, you cannot switch Hboots and simply run a restore.
this is what i've done to get MIUI working on my phone. and i recommend using a2sd+ because its the easiest to setup. (i think)
what you need:
- S-OFF
- AmonRA (so i can partition my SD card without connecting it to the PC)
what i did:
- go into recovery, nand backup
- back into recovery, partition 1024mb ext2
- covert it all the way to ext4 (ext3 will work too)
- flashed MIUI (a2sd+ version)
- back into recovery, flashed CM7 hboot
- enjoy
Hi guys, thanks for Reply
Im actually S-Off (alpharev). Does that make a difference?
Sike-1 said:
Hi guys, thanks for Reply
Im actually S-Off (alpharev). Does that make a difference?
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No.
10chars.
do0b said:
this is what i've done to get MIUI working on my phone. and i recommend using a2sd+ because its the easiest to setup. (i think)
what you need:
- S-OFF
- AmonRA (so i can partition my SD card without connecting it to the PC)
what i did:
- go into recovery, nand backup
- back into recovery, partition 1024mb ext2
- covert it all the way to ext4 (ext3 will work too)
- flashed MIUI (a2sd+ version)
- back into recovery, flashed CM7 hboot
- enjoy
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with a terminal on phone :
su
a2sd zipalign
a2sd cachesd
a2sd reinstall
To check if it's good :
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elgubbo.a2sdGUI
HexaMiMi said:
with a terminal on phone :
su
a2sd zipalign
a2sd cachesd
a2sd reinstall
To check if it's good :
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Well, I'd been told that I must activate a2sd+ first.("a2sd install")
-->See forums.miui.us/showthread.php?1655-How-to-use-a2sd
Anyway MIUI 1.7.22 with a2sd+(and X-PART too) wasn't stable enough for me...
though I like MIUI's elegant UI...

HTC desire Clockworkmod corrupted/deleted

Hi people, I have a HTC Desire that I has Clockworkmod installed. I gave it to my girl and she deleted Clockworkmod I think. The phone gets the splash screen but bootlooped, I did the power vol down and got into the bootloader, go to recovery, phone loads into cwm everything i do in cwm hangs the phone, I tried flashing recovery files from fastflash and android flasher but nothing works.
Its like the cwm is corrupted and wont let me do anything how do I get into the phones recovery not Clockworkmod recovery.
Cheers Glenn
sorry i;m new at this
- You can't really accidentally delete a recovery. If you can get into clockworkmod recovery it, it is not deleted
- You can only flash a different recovery if you are s-off, are you s-off?
- Does performing any action within cwm cause it to hang immediately? Can you try to full wipe (wipe data/factory reset), and then flash a ROM.zip file such as cyanogenmod? Does it boot?
- If you can't get it to boot, then you will likely have to flash an RUU to get it booting again. Use the 2.3.3 GB RUU, details how to flash are in the troubleshooting guide stickied to the top of Q&A.
- Once you get it booting and if you still want to install a custom ROM, use revolutionary to s-off, then flash 4EXT recovery instead, use that recovery to (re)partition your sdcard and install the ROM.
eddiehk6 said:
- You can't really accidentally delete a recovery. If you can get into clockworkmod recovery it, it is not deleted
- You can only flash a different recovery if you are s-off, are you s-off?
- Does performing any action within cwm cause it to hang immediately? Can you try to full wipe (wipe data/factory reset), and then flash a ROM.zip file such as cyanogenmod? Does it boot?
- If you can't get it to boot, then you will likely have to flash an RUU to get it booting again. Use the 2.3.3 GB RUU, details how to flash are in the troubleshooting guide stickied to the top of Q&A.
- Once you get it booting and if you still want to install a custom ROM, use revolutionary to s-off, then flash 4EXT recovery instead, use that recovery to (re)partition your sdcard and install the ROM.
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Yes I'm S-off, the phone wont start(boot all the way to working) I get into the (power vol down) menu, I go into recover, anything I do in there hangs the phone all I get is the cwm hat icon, I have to tske the battery out and put it back in. the only thing I think is, I have change micro SD cards the one that used to be in it is in my new phone and have deleted all the old files on it.
WHENEVER I do anything CWM it hangs can I recover without CWM it seems it controlls everything i do....
i had Rom manager installed too thet could be deleted, if rom manager is delete will that stuff up the phone, i think the partition is delete tooo... can i re partition it from windows??
vk2wgw said:
Yes I'm S-off, the phone wont start(boot all the way to working) I get into the (power vol down) menu, I go into recover, anything I do in there hangs the phone all I get is the cwm hat icon, I have to tske the battery out and put it back in. the only thing I think is, I have change micro SD cards the one that used to be in it is in my new phone and have deleted all the old files on it.
WHENEVER I do anything CWM it hangs can I recover without CWM it seems it controlls everything i do....
i had Rom manager installed too thet could be deleted, if rom manager is delete will that stuff up the phone, i think the partition is delete tooo... can i re partition it from windows??
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- I've never seen CWM hang like this. Within CWM, are you using the power button to select the options? You need to push the trackball to select (the middle button on the front of the phone)
- If you were using a custom ROM which used the sdcard in some way like a partition, you can't simply switch sd cards without backing up and transferring the necessary files to the new sdcard
You are s-off, so that's good. Assuming you still want a custom ROM:
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Backup your sd card, and use 4EXT recovery to completely reformat and partition your sd card (maximum 2GB ext4 partition)
- Copy backup back to sdcard, and ROM.zip of your choice
- (Optional but recommended) For maximum app space, flash optimal hboot for your ROM using fastboot, read the ROM's install instructions for information.
- 'Wipe all partitions except sdcard' option within 4EXT recovery (this is a 'full wipe')
- Install ROM.
EDIT: once you get it booting again, DO NOT use ROM manager in any way on this phone. You don't need it, has caused problems on this phone, could have been the reason for your issues in the first place.
eddiehk6 said:
- I've never seen CWM hang like this. Within CWM, are you using the power button to select the options? You need to push the trackball to select (the middle button on the front of the phone)
- If you were using a custom ROM which used the sdcard in some way like a partition, you can't simply switch sd cards without backing up and transferring the necessary files to the new sdcard
You are s-off, so that's good. Assuming you still want a custom ROM:
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Backup your sd card, and use 4EXT recovery to completely reformat and partition your sd card (maximum 2GB ext4 partition)
- Copy backup back to sdcard, and ROM.zip of your choice
- (Optional but recommended) For maximum app space, flash optimal hboot for your ROM using fastboot, read the ROM's install instructions for information.
- 'Wipe all partitions except sdcard' option within 4EXT recovery (this is a 'full wipe')
- Install ROM.
EDIT: once you get it booting again, DO NOT use ROM manager in any way on this phone. You don't need it, has caused problems on this phone, could have been the reason for your issues in the first place.
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Dont know what I did but I got it going, Thanks Eddie for the help, is there a rom that i can download that will take it back to the factory rom...its running cyanogenmod 7 atm, and what about Rom Manager and CWM can I uninstalll them and put 4EXT on it instead?? Thanks heeps man:good::good::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
vk2wgw said:
is there a rom that i can download that will take it back to the factory rom...its running cyanogenmod 7 atm
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A factory ROM is not a custom ROM. If you want a full factory / stock ROM, you will need to flash an RUU (use the 2.3.3. GB WWE RUU)
If you intend to still use the phone, and install a few apps on it without running out of space, then you still need a custom ROM. With CM7, for maximum app space you need:
- cm7r2 hboot (flash with fastboot)
- partitioned sd card (using 4EXT recovery or gparted only, NOT CWM or minitool partition wizard)
- an app such as S2E or Darktremor A2SD to move apps and dalvik to the partition, or flash a compatible app2sd script
Or pick a ROM of your choice. The correct hboot, partition and A2SD method still apply to virtually all custom ROMs
and what about Rom Manager and CWM can I uninstalll them and put 4EXT on it instead
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Like I said, you don't need ROM manager. CWM recovery is ok as long as you only use it to backup, full wipe and install ROMs. don't use it to partition the sd card.
4EXT is better as it can partition and backup/wipe/install ROMs all in one. Flash it using fastboot, or install it using the 4EXT app in the thread.

[Q] Custom Rom -> Factory Reset ?

Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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Try mildwild 14 based on redux2
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Free mobile app
Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
conjro said:
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
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Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
Thanks for the help.
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD .. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
I don't use this phone that much anymore, but i wanted to have a backup phone in case my newer one gets broken or something, therefore i wanted to do a clean install on this one.
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
eddiehk6 said:
You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
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Mascarponi said:
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD
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You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
.. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
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If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
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Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
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To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Mascarponi said:
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
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S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
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Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
eddiehk6 said:
S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
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When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Its a script so if your apps are on internal it will automatically trick them to move them to your sd ext which is the partition you have made which is 1gb recommended...
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Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
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This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
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No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
Listen to eddie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
eddiehk6 said:
This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
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Ok Eddie, you got me convinced
Will follow your instructions , do a full whipe, re-partition it and perform a clean install like you mentioned in a couple of posts earlier .. thanks !
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
Mascarponi said:
Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
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When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
jmcclue said:
When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
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Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
Mascarponi said:
Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
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Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
jmcclue said:
Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
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Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
Mascarponi said:
Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
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Yh that looks right.
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lilsafbig said:
Yh that looks right.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Free mobile app
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Okay thanks.
I thought that the whole SD-card would be partitioned as 4ext.
Is it true that A2SD now only uses the 4Ext partition (2gb) to trick apps to ?
Anyway, i'm happy to have my desire now set-up properly, so thanks for your help
I tried 2 Mildwild roms already, but didn't find a way to encrypt SD-card within these roms , does anybody knows if that's possible somehow ?
Any suggestions for other (Mildwild) Roms ? (tried MildWild MW-14 and MildWild CM-8.0 JG Stable)
Thanks.

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