[Q] noob question before rooting... - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just about to root and install a custom rom but have a few questions:
I know how to root by using paul's r6 method, and also how to install a rom but my question is, I have tried searching and cant find an answer:
I want to use A2SD+, have an 8Gb micro sd card installed, which i have backedup on my PC but how to i prepare this for A2SD+?
I also have an old radio, how do i update to the newest radio 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20? i have downloaded the file but not sure what to do
can anyone help?
cheers and sorry if this has been covered but i couldnt find it

Easy way:
Once you root, install ROM Manager from the Market and tell it to partition your SDCard.
Hard(er) way:
Use ADB. When I tried this I just got errors about it not being able to find the partitioning thing so someone else will have to help with that.

how to use ADB way? isn't this sub-forum wrong to ask these?
should be only for development questions

Laridia said:
Easy way:
Once you root, install ROM Manager from the Market and tell it to partition your SDCard.
Hard(er) way:
Use ADB. When I tried this I just got errors about it not being able to find the partitioning thing so someone else will have to help with that.
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Great thanks, what about installing the new radio? do it first or root first, custom rom then new radio? what order?

»You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium«

ok thanks
so just by rooting it doesnt erase my data? e.g. contacts etc?
kmetek said:
»You go into recovery (start the phone with volume down and power held down)
Then do a nandroid backup, wipe the phone, and choose flash rom and radio. Your rom.zip should be on the root of the sd card. It's worth backing up the sd card too and repartition it into 0 swap; 512mb ext2 and the rest fat32 form recovery if you want to use apps2sd.
So back up sd and phone via windows and titanium backup
then boot into recovery
nandroid
partition
wipe / factory reset
install rom
install latest radio
reboot phone
restore sd card contents & restore via titanium«
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Nope if you do everything tip-top you shouldn't....in 99%...

kmetek said:
Nope if you do everything tip-top you shouldn't....in 99%...
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Great, thanks for the help, will try tomorrow as its late here!
Cheers for the quick replies!

Related

Help, phone in constant boot loop

I've followed this guide on this forum to get a2sd:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670087
And I have the Modaco mod, and I know it said there was a chance it could go wrong.
But I tried nandroid restore and it didn't work, now I'm still in a boot loop, what should I do
Trying to do this now:
Run a2sd remove to reset everything back...that will fix the bootloop by setting everything back to internal storage.
Hope it works
Didn't work.
Have u partitioned ur sd card with an ext2 partition? im using apps2sd, if i take my sd card out and turn my fone on, it gets stuck in a boot loop, partion ur sd card using recovery, if that dosent work just flash onther rom from recovery lol
AndroHero said:
Have u partitioned ur sd card with an ext2 partition? im using apps2sd, if i take my sd card out and turn my fone on, it gets stuck in a boot loop, partion ur sd card using recovery, if that dosent work just flash onther rom from recovery lol
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I used rommanager to partition my sd card.
And the a2sd remove command didn't work, still in loop
Also, did you flash a MCR custom rom that already includes Apps2SD? if you did, then all you needed to do was partition your SD card while still in Recovery Mode. You only need to install Apps2SD separately if the rom you want to flash does not have Apps2SD incorporated into the rom.
If you have a rom with Apps2SD already installed, then in Recovery Mode, perform a full wipe, flash the rom, partition your SD card, and then convert ext2 to ext3. All steps should be perfomed while still in Recovery Mode and before you reboot your device.
MasDroid said:
Also, did you flash a MCR custom rom that already includes Apps2SD? if you did, then all you needed to do was partition your SD card while still in Recovery Mode. You only need to install Apps2SD separately if the rom you want to flash does not have Apps2SD incorporated into the rom.
If you have a rom with Apps2SD already installed, then in Recovery Mode, perform a full wipe, flash the rom, partition your SD card, and then convert ext2 to ext3. All steps should be perfomed while still in Recovery Mode and before you reboot your device.
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The rom doesn't contain apps2sd.
And with a full whipe, do you mean a factory reset?
Burrid said:
The rom doesn't contain apps2sd.
And with a full whipe, do you mean a factory reset?
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Yep, try going back into Recovery Mode menu and select Wipe > Wipe Data/Factory Reset using the optical trackpad. If you still get stuck, then I would suggest that you follow this guide:
http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/
It is very easy to follow and explains how to install Apps2SD separately. Try flashing the rom file (rootedupdate.zip) it mentions because you would otherwise be stuck in bootloop if you re-flashed your MCR rom having no way to load the Sense UI again and place the r1-a2sd-desire-dalvik-fresh-signed.zip onto your SD Card (unless you maybe downloaded it using ROM Manager or had another smartphone available where you could take out your sd card, insert it into the other phone, mount it, and place the downloaded r1-a2sd-desire-dalvik-fresh-signed.zip onto your sd card, then re-insert it back into your phone to flash)
Just remember to perform a full wipe in Recovery Mode menu (Wipe > Wipe data/factory reset, Wipe > Wipe cache, Wipe > Wipe Dalvik-cache). Then re-flash the rom and follow the guide to install Apps2SD.
Sorry to answer this late, I was away for the weekend.
It's a nice guide, but I don't have those files on my sd card, and I don't have an sd card adaptor.
I don't want to send my phone in
Try wiping everything (data, ext and dalvik-cache) and either try your nandroid backup again or reflash the rom.
Burrid said:
Sorry to answer this late, I was away for the weekend.
It's a nice guide, but I don't have those files on my sd card, and I don't have an sd card adaptor.
I don't want to send my phone in
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tkirton said:
Try wiping everything (data, ext and dalvik-cache) and either try your nandroid backup again or reflash the rom.
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I always tried the factory wipe and cache clear from my custom recovery but that didn't work.
Then I did a factory wipe and cache clear from my standard recovery and he started up again
I think everybody was telling me to do this, but I always did it in custom recovery.
Thanks a lot for the help tkirton and MasDroid!!

Stuck on Why So Serious ?

I tried twice to flash the new roms with all this partitions ... and twice got into trouble (tuck on logo , soft brick - like that).
How do i install it right ?
this is what i did:
1. S-OFF
2. Flash Bravo Stock HBOOT img
3. Create partitions
4. Full wipe
5. Flashed the LeeDroid 3.3.1 HD
And got stuck on the joker screen.
Twice !!!
Why is that?
Why did you flash stock hboot after you S-OFF? You was stock prior to S-OFF process lol.
Try to flash CM7 hboot and then flash leedroid data++ version.
If you will still get stuck on booting means you did something wrong with SD partitioning.
Sent with smoke signals.
Once again...
Always check md5 no matter what you flash. Just do it
...aes eht rednu
peed morf tneS
OK, so the SD partitions are Fat32 X (all the rest) GB and EXT3 1024MB ?
then i flash the CM7 hboot, after i flashed it, i need to restore the nandroid backup ?
then wipe everything and install ..?
Correct except restoring nandroid backup. Just flash from 0 after full wipe.
Sent with smoke signals.
OK it worked .
But i want to use other SD card, how to i switch between them ?
Do i need to install the ROM again from 0 ?
ofek said:
OK it worked .
But i want to use other SD card, how to i switch between them ?
Do i need to install the ROM again from 0 ?
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If you want to move it to another SD Card:
1. Make a Nandroid backup in recovery
2. Move Nandroid from SD to PC
3. Insert new card, copy the backup from PC to new SD
4. Go into recovery and restore the backup
Just remember to repartition new sd card, if you forget to create ext partition you end up with bootloop.
If you are not scared to work with linux:
1.) Connect your phone to your computer and unmout sd card
2.) Put new sd card in your computer
3.) Create the partitions on the new card, you have on the old. For example you have one fat and one ext. Create fat at first, then ext (both primary)
4.) Copy the content of the corresponding partitions from the old to the new sd card.
5.) Insert new card in your desire and you are done.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
Thank you, everything works now.
The windows steps worked for me.

[Q] customROM, root, or something else

hi guys
i know another thread about htc desire low internal memory, but since im new can you suggest me what to do.
do i need root my phone and is there any SAFE way to remove phones apps (like fm radio,footprints, gmail,mail,music,stocks,teeter basicly all i find useless on my phone...)
or do you sugest to build in customROM and which one do you suggest (small but working - best solution would be that i can use google play and phone for normal use other apps i can just download what i need)
Night5talker said:
hi guys
i know another thread about htc desire low internal memory, but since im new can you suggest me what to do.
do i need root my phone and is there any SAFE way to remove phones apps (like fm radio,footprints, gmail,mail,music,stocks,teeter basicly all i find useless on my phone...)
or do you sugest to build in customROM and which one do you suggest (small but working - best solution would be that i can use google play and phone for normal use other apps i can just download what i need)
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S-off + Root + Titanium Backup + 4ext recovery + Custom Rom + ext partition + int2sd script = a Desire with a ton of space.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
S-off + Root + Titanium Backup + 4ext recovery + Custom Rom + ext partition + int2sd script = a Desire with a ton of space.
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which root do you suggest?
and will soff work without rooting device first?
i see you have redux will that be good custom rom?
is that correct order for doing what i need?
Night5talker said:
which root do you suggest?
and will soff work without rooting device first?
i see you have redux will that be good custom rom?
is that correct order for doing what i need?
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After s-off, you will install 4ext recovery. From recovery, you will install SuperSu flashable zip, which you can get from the official thread. Google it.
Thats the rooting process.
Redux is very fast, stable, and a good rom to start with.
That is the exact order, except installing 4ext recovery comes right after s-off.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
After s-off, you will install 4ext recovery. From recovery, you will install SuperSu flashable zip, which you can get from the official thread. Google it.
Thats the rooting process.
Redux is very fast, stable, and a good rom to start with.
That is the exact order, except installing 4ext recovery comes right after s-off.
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i follow some video guide and s-off it and root it with recovery.
do i need some backup(ROM backup) before i set new ROM? titanium or nand? and what to do with it when i do that?
and can i remove custom rom same way as i remove stock ROM?
You do a backup with titanium, so you can restore your apps later, on your new rom, and you make a nandroid backup every time you do major changes to the phone.
If you want to restore the stock rom, just restore the nandroif backup from recovery.
Night5talker said:
hi guys
i know another thread about htc desire low internal memory, but since im new can you suggest me what to do.
do i need root my phone and is there any SAFE way to remove phones apps (like fm radio,footprints, gmail,mail,music,stocks,teeter basicly all i find useless on my phone...)
or do you sugest to build in customROM and which one do you suggest (small but working - best solution would be that i can use google play and phone for normal use other apps i can just download what i need)
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Rooting your phone is a must. Post that you can search from a variety of ROMs available here. Can go for redux as suggested above, or any other GB based rom - MildWild is the most recently updated.
With stock hboot - you get 150MB as user memory. You can change your hboot to cm7r2 and get about 300MB in user memory. However, not all ROMs are compatible with cm7r2 hboot. Check before you change hboot.
i manage to root the phone, is there any way now i can move facebook app to SD card without using PC and mobile just mobile by itself? i tried with few programs (app2sd, link2sd, titanium backup) and its still gray and not allowed to transfer to SD or in link2sd i get msg faliure to move app to SD
Night5talker said:
i manage to root the phone, is there any way now i can move facebook app to SD card without using PC and mobile just mobile by itself? i tried with few programs (app2sd, link2sd, titanium backup) and its still gray and not allowed to transfer to SD or in link2sd i get msg faliure to move app to SD
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Did you make an ext partition? If not, backup all your sd-card contents on your pc, go in 4ext recovery, choose tools>partition sd-card, and make a 512mb-1gb ext3 partition. Swap-skip, sd-ext2-skip.
Then, you can install an a2sd script, like Mounts2sd ( google it) and move apps, data or dalvik, or all of them to sd.
i followed some guide he didnt had that 4ext on it...
anyway i installed 4ext recovery now and i stuck on 2 things in there
when i go on online install - it say Your version of 4ext recovery is undetected... i download top red (newst) not testing build (is that ok)
and other message i have busybox couldnt be found on your system... do i need busybox ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uresNXhrX4
thats what i done so far on phone
i dont have 4ext but revolutionary instead - can i overwrite it?or im stuck with revolutionary and can i do all things from there too?
i found this soulution http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219802&page=2
1. will it work?
2. and it say download downgrader - there is zip and img file which one do i need to download and rename zip or img one?
3. when i flash RUU file i put it in root on SD card too right?
ps i have some RUU bravo froyo that i download but its exe found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
so which one do i use at the end and how? (to get it back to stock) so i can get 4ext this time or i can just get 4ext somehow?
To install 4ext recovery, simply download the recovery control from the Play Store, then flash the recovery with it. I recommend the latest touch version.
You just rooted your phone. Why would you want to flash a RUU?
thanks... i have downloaded it instead of install it...
i heared something about moving apps to SD card have anyone tried that? what is the safe guide for that
i found app link2SD but i need 2 partitions on SD will that work when i done it?
how muh partiotions do i need and how large - i read somewhere 2 somewhere 3
system, data, swap
Night5talker said:
thanks... i have downloaded it instead of install it...
i heared something about moving apps to SD card have anyone tried that? what is the safe guide for that
i found app link2SD but i need 2 partitions on SD will that work when i done it?
how muh partiotions do i need and how large - i read somewhere 2 somewhere 3
system, data, swap
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System and data are internal memory partitions. You can change their layout by changing hboot.
You only need one sd-ext partition. You can make one using 4ext recovery.
Simply backup all the contents of your sd-card on your PC. Then enter recovery, select Tools>Partition sd-card, and make a 1gb ext3 partition ( or ext4, depending on the rom you're using). Skip swap and sd-ext2, and anything else.
Then, copy everything you had on your sd back, and use an a2sd script, like Mounts2sd (google it).
And.. Voila.
I recommend only moving apps and dalvik to sd-ext. Leaving data on internal makes the rom run faster.
Night5talker said:
thanks... i have downloaded it instead of install it...
i heared something about moving apps to SD card have anyone tried that? what is the safe guide for that
i found app link2SD but i need 2 partitions on SD will that work when i done it?
how muh partiotions do i need and how large - i read somewhere 2 somewhere 3
system, data, swap
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You need to create only an EXT partition. you can skip swap. The size of EXT partition may be minimum 512MB (If you have a small SD Card). The recommended is 1GB (Don't go for more than that).
Then you can go on flashing ROMs on your phone. Most of the ROMs have in-build apps2sd script. If not, you can flash one of the scripts or may use s2e (Simple2ext) which is available on Google Play...
If you just want to move the apps to sd, keeping your ROM, you will need to flash one of the scripts. But what the hell, why not try to flash some ROMs

HTC desire Clockworkmod corrupted/deleted

Hi people, I have a HTC Desire that I has Clockworkmod installed. I gave it to my girl and she deleted Clockworkmod I think. The phone gets the splash screen but bootlooped, I did the power vol down and got into the bootloader, go to recovery, phone loads into cwm everything i do in cwm hangs the phone, I tried flashing recovery files from fastflash and android flasher but nothing works.
Its like the cwm is corrupted and wont let me do anything how do I get into the phones recovery not Clockworkmod recovery.
Cheers Glenn
sorry i;m new at this
- You can't really accidentally delete a recovery. If you can get into clockworkmod recovery it, it is not deleted
- You can only flash a different recovery if you are s-off, are you s-off?
- Does performing any action within cwm cause it to hang immediately? Can you try to full wipe (wipe data/factory reset), and then flash a ROM.zip file such as cyanogenmod? Does it boot?
- If you can't get it to boot, then you will likely have to flash an RUU to get it booting again. Use the 2.3.3 GB RUU, details how to flash are in the troubleshooting guide stickied to the top of Q&A.
- Once you get it booting and if you still want to install a custom ROM, use revolutionary to s-off, then flash 4EXT recovery instead, use that recovery to (re)partition your sdcard and install the ROM.
eddiehk6 said:
- You can't really accidentally delete a recovery. If you can get into clockworkmod recovery it, it is not deleted
- You can only flash a different recovery if you are s-off, are you s-off?
- Does performing any action within cwm cause it to hang immediately? Can you try to full wipe (wipe data/factory reset), and then flash a ROM.zip file such as cyanogenmod? Does it boot?
- If you can't get it to boot, then you will likely have to flash an RUU to get it booting again. Use the 2.3.3 GB RUU, details how to flash are in the troubleshooting guide stickied to the top of Q&A.
- Once you get it booting and if you still want to install a custom ROM, use revolutionary to s-off, then flash 4EXT recovery instead, use that recovery to (re)partition your sdcard and install the ROM.
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Yes I'm S-off, the phone wont start(boot all the way to working) I get into the (power vol down) menu, I go into recover, anything I do in there hangs the phone all I get is the cwm hat icon, I have to tske the battery out and put it back in. the only thing I think is, I have change micro SD cards the one that used to be in it is in my new phone and have deleted all the old files on it.
WHENEVER I do anything CWM it hangs can I recover without CWM it seems it controlls everything i do....
i had Rom manager installed too thet could be deleted, if rom manager is delete will that stuff up the phone, i think the partition is delete tooo... can i re partition it from windows??
vk2wgw said:
Yes I'm S-off, the phone wont start(boot all the way to working) I get into the (power vol down) menu, I go into recover, anything I do in there hangs the phone all I get is the cwm hat icon, I have to tske the battery out and put it back in. the only thing I think is, I have change micro SD cards the one that used to be in it is in my new phone and have deleted all the old files on it.
WHENEVER I do anything CWM it hangs can I recover without CWM it seems it controlls everything i do....
i had Rom manager installed too thet could be deleted, if rom manager is delete will that stuff up the phone, i think the partition is delete tooo... can i re partition it from windows??
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- I've never seen CWM hang like this. Within CWM, are you using the power button to select the options? You need to push the trackball to select (the middle button on the front of the phone)
- If you were using a custom ROM which used the sdcard in some way like a partition, you can't simply switch sd cards without backing up and transferring the necessary files to the new sdcard
You are s-off, so that's good. Assuming you still want a custom ROM:
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Backup your sd card, and use 4EXT recovery to completely reformat and partition your sd card (maximum 2GB ext4 partition)
- Copy backup back to sdcard, and ROM.zip of your choice
- (Optional but recommended) For maximum app space, flash optimal hboot for your ROM using fastboot, read the ROM's install instructions for information.
- 'Wipe all partitions except sdcard' option within 4EXT recovery (this is a 'full wipe')
- Install ROM.
EDIT: once you get it booting again, DO NOT use ROM manager in any way on this phone. You don't need it, has caused problems on this phone, could have been the reason for your issues in the first place.
eddiehk6 said:
- I've never seen CWM hang like this. Within CWM, are you using the power button to select the options? You need to push the trackball to select (the middle button on the front of the phone)
- If you were using a custom ROM which used the sdcard in some way like a partition, you can't simply switch sd cards without backing up and transferring the necessary files to the new sdcard
You are s-off, so that's good. Assuming you still want a custom ROM:
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Backup your sd card, and use 4EXT recovery to completely reformat and partition your sd card (maximum 2GB ext4 partition)
- Copy backup back to sdcard, and ROM.zip of your choice
- (Optional but recommended) For maximum app space, flash optimal hboot for your ROM using fastboot, read the ROM's install instructions for information.
- 'Wipe all partitions except sdcard' option within 4EXT recovery (this is a 'full wipe')
- Install ROM.
EDIT: once you get it booting again, DO NOT use ROM manager in any way on this phone. You don't need it, has caused problems on this phone, could have been the reason for your issues in the first place.
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Dont know what I did but I got it going, Thanks Eddie for the help, is there a rom that i can download that will take it back to the factory rom...its running cyanogenmod 7 atm, and what about Rom Manager and CWM can I uninstalll them and put 4EXT on it instead?? Thanks heeps man:good::good::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
vk2wgw said:
is there a rom that i can download that will take it back to the factory rom...its running cyanogenmod 7 atm
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A factory ROM is not a custom ROM. If you want a full factory / stock ROM, you will need to flash an RUU (use the 2.3.3. GB WWE RUU)
If you intend to still use the phone, and install a few apps on it without running out of space, then you still need a custom ROM. With CM7, for maximum app space you need:
- cm7r2 hboot (flash with fastboot)
- partitioned sd card (using 4EXT recovery or gparted only, NOT CWM or minitool partition wizard)
- an app such as S2E or Darktremor A2SD to move apps and dalvik to the partition, or flash a compatible app2sd script
Or pick a ROM of your choice. The correct hboot, partition and A2SD method still apply to virtually all custom ROMs
and what about Rom Manager and CWM can I uninstalll them and put 4EXT on it instead
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Like I said, you don't need ROM manager. CWM recovery is ok as long as you only use it to backup, full wipe and install ROMs. don't use it to partition the sd card.
4EXT is better as it can partition and backup/wipe/install ROMs all in one. Flash it using fastboot, or install it using the 4EXT app in the thread.

[Q] Custom Rom -> Factory Reset ?

Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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Try mildwild 14 based on redux2
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Free mobile app
Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
conjro said:
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
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Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
Thanks for the help.
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD .. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
I don't use this phone that much anymore, but i wanted to have a backup phone in case my newer one gets broken or something, therefore i wanted to do a clean install on this one.
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
eddiehk6 said:
You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
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Mascarponi said:
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD
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You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
.. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
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If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
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Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
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To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Mascarponi said:
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
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S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
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Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
eddiehk6 said:
S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
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When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Its a script so if your apps are on internal it will automatically trick them to move them to your sd ext which is the partition you have made which is 1gb recommended...
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Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
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This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
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No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
Listen to eddie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
eddiehk6 said:
This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
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Ok Eddie, you got me convinced
Will follow your instructions , do a full whipe, re-partition it and perform a clean install like you mentioned in a couple of posts earlier .. thanks !
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
Mascarponi said:
Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
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When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
jmcclue said:
When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
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Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
Mascarponi said:
Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
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Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
jmcclue said:
Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
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Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
Mascarponi said:
Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
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Yh that looks right.
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lilsafbig said:
Yh that looks right.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Free mobile app
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Okay thanks.
I thought that the whole SD-card would be partitioned as 4ext.
Is it true that A2SD now only uses the 4Ext partition (2gb) to trick apps to ?
Anyway, i'm happy to have my desire now set-up properly, so thanks for your help
I tried 2 Mildwild roms already, but didn't find a way to encrypt SD-card within these roms , does anybody knows if that's possible somehow ?
Any suggestions for other (Mildwild) Roms ? (tried MildWild MW-14 and MildWild CM-8.0 JG Stable)
Thanks.

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