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Application Space

I have the HTC Desire on Telus.
I have Apps2SD installed, as well as Android 2.2. Currently I am unrooted but was rooted before and the same issue.
I can move some applications to the SD card, but not all of them. Also its only part of the application. I am still running out of space all the time.
Am I missing something, how do you install and run an application from the SD card?

Root. Youre using stock a2sd which doesnt fully move the app to the sd so it still uses storage space. Root and a2sd+ is what youre after
Sent from my HTC Desire

As I said in my post, I was Rooted before, still didn't install the full application and cache and everything to sd.

Well if you rooted but didn't partition your SD card for A2SD+, then you did nothing extra.
Root > partition SD card > reinstall ROM

Link to the instructions on how to do it exactly, make sure I do it correct this time around.
Thanks.

So I did that, you can only partition the SD card as 512MB, which is clearly the same as internal memory. Also, the applications still only move some of itself over to the sd card.......

I can't use Gparted for reasons, is there another program that does the same that works with windows?

Anyone....really......come on....

MiniTool Partition Wizard (google it) works under Windows and can create ext3 partition SD Cards. It's the only one i found that actually works, and it's free.
As an alternative, you can instal ROM Manager on your phone and use it to create ext3 partition, although it's limited to 512MB.

Thanks for that application.
So I formatted my SDcard, reinstalled the rom and I still have only 114MB free, and 2GB missing from my SDCard now...WTF

Yeah, but data will be stored on ext3 partition so you will be able to install more apps. I now have 200mb of apps, and still have 40% free in internal memory.

The new Adobe Flash update increases the already ludicrous amount of space this app takes up on your phone. Was 10.96MB, now 11.29MB.
No Froyo move to SD.

Can someone please give me instructions from start to finish on how to do this because clearly I'm doing it wrong, I have 114MB internal free with fresh install.

Just install applications, you'll see they now take way less space in phone memory. You won't see that partition as available space.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Would still be nice to have instructions for next time.
And so your telling me there is no point to making a 2GB extra partition, since you can't move the apps fully over, that's what I thought, and this was a waste of time.

Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Evil_Cid said:
Instructions can be found all over the xda forums...seriously its not that hard to find..u need a rooted phone, a ROM that supports A2SD and an ext2 or ext3 partition on ur sd-card.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol

bmancell said:
Yea, these forums are bloated with topics and new posts every 5 seconds, its hard to find anything. And I found a tutorial or 2, obviously I did it wrong.
So a direct link, or a new step by step would be great. Everyone is acting like its easy, so shouldnt be hard to write a quick step by step or give a link..lol
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Okay....what ROM are you using? Stock 2.2 only supports Google's way of moving Apps (i.e. moving some of it and leaving the rest behind). Even with rooting, the stock ROM WILL NOT move everything to SD. So you need a new ROM which will support the A2SD feature.....so selecting a new ROM (even a modified version of the stock one) would be your first step. Make sure this ROM has support for A2SD or A2SD+....
Edit: If you do decide to make the "full" switch, it is recommended to S-OFF if possible.... I am fairly confident that you are following the right steps but the ROM isn't supporting it.

I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM. And i dont know what S-OFF is. I am assuming a way to power off.

bmancell said:
I am currently running your ROM, the Oxygen v2.0-RC6 Gingerbread ROM.
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Have you also got a custom recovery? like ClockworkMod (can be found on the Market) or AmonRa (i don't use this).... you will need one of them if you want to enable A2SD with Oxygen ROM. This is because the oxygen ROM, by default, writes app data into the internal memory rather than into any external partitions.
Basically once you create your ext3, you have to boot into the custom recovery and flash this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2263716/dalv...2SD-signed.zip
and reboot..and that should do the trick.
That's the general summary of the steps. Read the link for more details on partitioning:
Link on SD card partitioning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910290
EDIT: Put simply, S-OFF (security off) allows you to install custom HBOOT image (such as the one I have..) which give you more space in you internal memory. Alpharev Oxygen HBOOT for example (HBOOT is the bootloader) gives around 337MB as internal space for your apps....which kinda makes EXT3 partitions unnecessary...
You have to be a bit careful with S-OFFing as newer Desire models have new security feature which makes it unsuitable to flash a new HBOOT. Read more about this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583

[Q] Partition SD card while still on phone?

I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at

Mount the sdcard to Windows & run Minitool Partition Wizard. Resize the FAT32 partition & make an EXT4 partition of any size you'd like. Unmount it from from the PC & run Link2SD.
Link2SD doesn't require S-OFF for the Play.

To mount it, is it just the normal state when you plug in the usb cord to the PC? ie, mass storage mode? or do I need to unmount the sd card in settings somewhere first. Just want to make sure I get the order right.
What would a good size ext4 partition be on a 16 gb card?

Mass storage mode is fine. Doing so in CWM is probably better though since the OS isn't trying to access anything.
2~4GB should be fine.

Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.

ROM Manager.

I hate to be the guy that asks a lot of questions that should be obvious, but how does ROM Manager answer my above questions? I hope that doesn't come across as rude, I meant it from my ignorant standpoint. I looked up the app on Google Play, and it sounds like it is used for backing up your current ROM, loading new ones, and a couple of other ROM related features.

Fuegeaux said:
Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.
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If you get CWM installed, you can mount the sdcard while in recovery.
Use SyncToy to do the syncing
http://www.everything-microsoft.com...our-windows7-files-and-folders-using-synctoy/
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=15155

What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!

Fuegeaux said:
What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!
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ROM Manager = Android app that works with CWM. Installs CWM on phones that support it. Xperia Play isn't supported for CWM installation from the ROM Manager but the other features within it do work.
CWM = recovery image that boots when invoked via ROM Manager or at the bootloader/kernel.

Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?

Fuegeaux said:
Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?
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No... you need to get into recovery mode to access CWM properly. The ROM Manager can reboot the phone to get into that mode.

I downloaded ROM Manager from the market. I see two options in ROM Manager that I think are what you are talking about. The first one is under Recovery->Reboot into Recovery. The second one is Utitilities->Partition SD Card. Can I just check the Parition SD Card option or do I need to Reboot into recovery first? Also, above Reboot into Recovery, there is an option which says "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. You must have the ClockwordMod Recovery installed to flash and restory ROMs!" But you said that the Xperia Play does not support this. I assume that I don't need to do this. (but, for future reference, I can't use ROM Manager to flash ROMs, right?)
First off, do I even need minitool Partition wizard if ROM Manager will do it for me using the Partition SD card option? Will that let me do ext4 as well as FAT32 and select differing sizes?
Second, if Partition SD card will not do what I want it to do, or do it fully, then what are the steps to do? My thought is plug phone into PC. Use ROM Manager to reboot into Recovery (using ROM Manager option). Once PC detects SD card, use Minitool Partition wizard to reformat/partition SD card with FAT32 for main portion and EXT4 for seperate portion for Link2SD use.
Will EXT4 also work for the dalvik2cache tweak?
Sorry for all of the questions and thanks again for all the help!

You need to have CWM installed that's made specifically for the Play. It CAN'T be installed from the ROM Manager.
Use this app to install it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pvy.CWMinstaler
The Partition SD Card option will erase everything on the SD card & it creates a small EXT2 or EXT3 partition. I don't recommend using it.
Use the Minitool & do as I recommended earlier on...
Don't mix dalvik2cache with any sdext script... I recommend using Link2SD or mount2SD apps for utilizing the ext4 partition to move the dalvik-cache.

I will test these things out when I get home today, or maybe this weekend if I can't find free time before then.
One thing I noticed when I went to the thread mentioned in the Xperia CWM app is that in big red letters it says "Do NOT use this recovery if you are not using stock 2.3 firmware". I guess that means when ICS comes out from Sony, we won't be able to upgrade through ROM Manager, right? This also means that going from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 would be okay using this version of CWM, right?
Also, if I wanted to upgrade to a 2.3.4 build, then ROM manager is the way to go, right?
Thanks again!!

I can't use the ROM Manager with ICS until something changes. Upgrading through CWM is always possible though, just as long as you know that spamming the home key (about 10 times) at system startup will get you into it.
Yes, ROM Manager/CWM Recovery can take care of any upgrades that don't involve flashmode or fastboot mode (ftf, img, & sin files).

Thanks again for all of your help. I find myself having more questions about ROMs, but that is kinda hijacking my own thread. Plus, I don't think I am ready to flash any ROMs just yet. I don't know, it just makes me kinda nervous doing that, plus it is a big pain having to redownload all of my apps and setting things up again.
I will try and partition my SD card soon and report back with the results.

Use Titanium Backup to capture all of your settings with the apps. Quite simple to achieve.

All right, so I finally repartitioned my SD card. I had to use FAT32 for the second partition because Link2SD did not recognize the EXT4 partition. I did make the mistake of not putting it as primary, but I fixed this and it still didn't work.
It looks like all is working, but I can't seem to link the davlik cache over, though it acts like there is none. Could I clean up the davlik cache and would that make any problems? It just seems like there is still a lot of memory being used and I can't figure out where it is coming from.

Fuegeaux said:
I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at
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connect your sd card to computer and use minitool partition wizard to partition your card. it is so convenient and easy to operate.

HTC Sense, Lee Droid or a new ROM?

Hello,
I am a noob and I hate myself.
I recently purchased a second hand HTC Desire with Lee Droid on it. Everything was working fine.Then the phone asked my if I wanted to update? I tried to update but it would not work. Then after a while it stopped asking me to update. Then a little while later it was on a start up loop. I took out the SD card and it work but I had no apps, etc.
Now I have a serious problem with internal storage. I did a factory reset (still has the Lee Droid ROM on it) and it shows I have 92mb of internal storage...instead of up to 1GB!
So....I decided to try a few things. After doing a bit of quick reading I decided to go with the original HTC Sense software. In trying to do this I get a 140 bootloader error...so I must be using the wrong ROM?
Getting slightly more frustrated now...
I figured out I had to partition the original SD card again to get it working and that had worked but now I only have 112mb of internal storage using that Sd Card (I had purchased another one when this stopped working). So the internal storage issue still applies. And the main thing with this for me is that apps such as facebook and more will not transfer to the SD card whereas I thought I could do this before? So even to have Facebook on it and upgrade the apps with the phone gives me a 'low memeory' notification.
SO I guess my question is..
Should I just go back to HTC Sense and what ROM do I use?
or
Should I try out a different ROM?
Bear in mind I did not flash the phone originally, and while not a complete computer noob I would be quiet nervous about doing this with out some experienced help.

Everything you need to know is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
As a rough guide:
When you format your card you need an ext partition of say 1gb for app storage space (a2sd). The rest of the card should be fat32. This is to solve your low memory issues.
Download the custom rom of your choice to the fat32 partition of the sd card and boot the phone into recovery (volume down and power button then choose recovery). You probably have clockwork mod recovery or similar. Choose the option install zip from SD card.
Before you do this, in recovery you should wipe the dalvik cache and perform a wipe/factory reset.
Depending on the rom you use you will probably need to download and flash and a2sd script such as darktremour. This will make downloaded apps save to the ext partition automatically rather than to the phone memory.
It is worth doing as much reading up as poss before embarking on this and make sure you have enough charge in your phone when flashing or you might end up with a brick!
As for the choice of rom you need to decide if you want a rom with HTC sense included or an AOSP rom.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Ok thanks. Do you know any way I can find out which HTC Sense ROM is for my phone?
No matter what I do the internal memory is always lower than 120mb. It should be 512mb max right? I just did a factory reset again and it's at 77mb without any apps installed ot gmail or facebook profiles added! It these any way to fix this first off before I read more into flashing the phone with a different ROM?

Centurionmark said:
Ok thanks. Do you know any way I can find out which HTC Sense ROM is for my phone?
No matter what I do the internal memory is always lower than 120mb. It should be 512mb max right? I just did a factory reset again and it's at 77mb without any apps installed ot gmail or facebook profiles added! It these any way to fix this first off before I read more into flashing the phone with a different ROM?
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Unless u use a2sd,ad2sd,int2sd or some script to move something to your sd partition,
you aren't going to have any more memory.

I think I should really go back to Sense before I do anything else or drive myself mad!
I tried another Sense ROM and it says I need to have my battery over 30pc but it's nearly fully charged!!!

colin_404 said:
Unless u use a2sd,ad2sd,int2sd or some script to move something to your sd partition,
you aren't going to have any more memory.
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But I had more internal memory before. How do I install these?
And how can I find out what Sense ROM is for my phone?

I have downloaded the app 2 sd and done the sdk thing...
but it still does not solve my internal memory issue and why was it so big before on a rooted phone? The phone is still rooted. So it should be the same? Do I need to get my SD card to count as internal storage somehow. Any links?

Centurionmark said:
I have downloaded the app 2 sd and done the sdk thing...
but it still does not solve my internal memory issue and why was it so big before on a rooted phone? The phone is still rooted. So it should be the same? Do I need to get my SD card to count as internal storage somehow. Any links?
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The guides for installing the customs roms u download r probably in the rom thread where the rom came from.
If it says ur battery is < 30% then u r using a RUU and u will need the correct one for ur phone.
Or use the 2.3 Ruu upgrade for Desire from HTC/Dev.

I think this is your best solution - CM7 which is a great rom without HTC sense.
If you have not created your ext partition yet do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932824
Then flash this rom:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=bravo&type=stable
Installation instructions for the rom are here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum-36/announcement-23-cyanogenmod-72-released-2012-jun-16/
Then install S2E from the play store. This includes an a2sd script and has tick boxes to chose what to send to your SD ext partition.
Then you are done
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

hans moleman said:
I think this is your best solution - CM7 which is a great rom without HTC sense.
If you have not created your ext partition yet do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932824
Then flash this rom:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=bravo&type=stable
Installation instructions for the rom are here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum-36/announcement-23-cyanogenmod-72-released-2012-jun-16/
Then install S2E from the play store. This includes an a2sd script and has tick boxes to chose what to send to your SD ext partition.
Then you are done
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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OK...a friend did the following:
Updated my android because I was still on 2.2
Updated the root to Andreev
Installed Ice Cream Sandwich...the current BETA I think...which works fine but lately the phone freezes sometimes
First I thought you were on about memory to SD swap apps on the market so I did a bit of reading. I installed S2E but cannot or do not know how to get it working. It asked me to install something else which kept giving me a 'cannot respond' message.
I tried to install A2SDGUI as per some guide but it says that either my phone is not rooted, I do not have an EXT partition or A2sd scripts are not installed.
I tried to install EXTions on both my SD cards both manually using partition software and using ROM Manager. They both show up as having a regular FAT32 partition, and EXT one and a Linux one. They still do not work.
I have tried using various different partition softwares and my head is in a spin form them and different guides. I cannot get Gparted to work, how do I get the Image from the download or install it on my PC?
I also think I have moved my Dalvik Cache to my original SD card and not the phone tells me I have 141mb free internal memory but I get 'insufficient space' messages when trying to download apps or update them. Since I did this, even when putting on my manual SD backup from my new SD card back onto it I get messages saying 'app does not exist, even on the Play Market one. Play Market works fine on the original SD card which I think I have moved the Dalvik cache to.
There is also no nandroid backup on the new SD card as I get an error message...
Please please please someone help me. All I want to do now is get more internal memory and have everything working with my new 4GB SD card in the phone. Thanks to everyone who posted links to guides but I am still getting to terms with some of the terminology and may need guides to do some of the things that are listed in the guides. As it is now I cannot download any new apps. When the phone was rooted to Ice Cream Sandwich I could only download about 3 apps and cannot update youtube, maps, google, mail, etc.

Centurionmark said:
OK...a friend did the following:
Updated my android because I was still on 2.2
Updated the root to Andreev
Installed Ice Cream Sandwich...the current BETA I think...which works fine but lately the phone freezes sometimes
First I thought you were on about memory to SD swap apps on the market so I did a bit of reading. I installed S2E but cannot or do not know how to get it working. It asked me to install something else which kept giving me a 'cannot respond' message.
I tried to install A2SDGUI as per some guide but it says that either my phone is not rooted, I do not have an EXT partition or A2sd scripts are not installed.
I tried to install EXTions on both my SD cards both manually using partition software and using ROM Manager. They both show up as having a regular FAT32 partition, and EXT one and a Linux one. They still do not work.
I have tried using various different partition softwares and my head is in a spin form them and different guides. I cannot get Gparted to work, how do I get the Image from the download or install it on my PC?
I also think I have moved my Dalvik Cache to my original SD card and not the phone tells me I have 141mb free internal memory but I get 'insufficient space' messages when trying to download apps or update them. Since I did this, even when putting on my manual SD backup from my new SD card back onto it I get messages saying 'app does not exist, even on the Play Market one. Play Market works fine on the original SD card which I think I have moved the Dalvik cache to.
There is also no nandroid backup on the new SD card as I get an error message...
Please please please someone help me. All I want to do now is get more internal memory and have everything working with my new 4GB SD card in the phone. Thanks to everyone who posted links to guides but I am still getting to terms with some of the terminology and may need guides to do some of the things that are listed in the guides. As it is now I cannot download any new apps. When the phone was rooted to Ice Cream Sandwich I could only download about 3 apps and cannot update youtube, maps, google, mail, etc.
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I forgot to mention I also installed the a2sd scripts in the Terminal but still no joy.

Centurionmark said:
I forgot to mention I also installed the a2sd scripts in the Terminal but still no joy.
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Most of the scripts will show your internal storage as normal, then report a a2sd partion.
The only two that report your internal AND est partion as one block are data2sd, and the ammurlez script. Both of these are flashable with Lee Droid, but afterwards. If you did a factory reset this would restore your Lee Droid ROM but wipe your data2sd or ammurlez script. This is why before updating anything, or flashing a new zip CWM backups are your friend.
Just "factory reset" it again, this DOES NOT" change your hboot or SD partions, then flash the ammurlez or data2sd scripts. Your phone will be as before reporting 1gb internal memory.
Or......play with all the awesome ROM and script possibilities on this forum till you find a setup you love......speed versus storage, sense versus aosop versus mui etc.
Most peoples signatures list their setup, try em all!
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

The gparped image needs to be burned to cd rom. Just google how to do it. Then boot your pc with the cd in the drive and gparted will load up.
If you follow the guide I left earlier methodically step by step using the actual rom suggested it should work. Please note S2E only works on CM7 or CM9 roms only.
If try CM7 and don't like it you can flash something else after but at least you will have everything working and also gain an understanding of the steps you need to go through to do it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

Bootloop issue

Hi,
I have rooted, unlocked bootloader and unlocked sim on my friends Desire, but I have tried flashing several Roms. They at first appear to be successful, they boot happily but with every ROM (Ive tried 5) on second boot it gets stuck in bootloop.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks

Need a bit more detail:
- Unlocked bootloader using 'revolutionary' to S-OFF?
- What ROMs are you trying?
- Are you performing a full wipe before you flash any of them?
- Do any of them require an sd partition? If so have you correctly partitioned your sd card using 4EXT recovery or gparted (not minitool or CWM recovery)

Ive tried Mildwild stable, Mildwild 5.0, Touchwiz 4.2.2, and two others I cant remember. Ive done everything you say apart from Ive partitioned using CWM.
Maybe thats it!

Yes that's it. Cwm creates badly aligned partitions. Those Roms try to move bits to the sd-ext hence bootloops
- you're s-off, flash 4ext recovery through fastboot
- backup your sd, then partition your sd card using 4 ext.
- you will gain more app space for some of those roms by flashing a compatible hboot using fastboot. Check each rom thread for individual requirements

eddiehk6 said:
Yes that's it. Cwm creates badly aligned partitions. Those Roms try to move bits to the sd-ext hence bootloops
- you're s-off, flash 4ext recovery through fastboot
- backup your sd, then partition your sd card using 4 ext.
- you will gain more app space for some of those roms by flashing a compatible hboot using fastboot. Check each rom thread for individual requirements
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Thanks am just giving it a go, can you reccommend a ROM that works with revolutionary?

johhnyhotrocks said:
Thanks am just giving it a go, can you reccommend a ROM that works with revolutionary?
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Sorry your question doesn't really make sense.
'Revolutionary' is merely a method to unlock bootloader (s-off), has nothing to do with ROM compatibility.
If you're referring to CWM (clockworkmod) recovery, you should still be able to install ROMs with it as you have discovered. However it is not suitable for partitioning your sd card.
So in your current position, you should be able to install a ROM with CWM as long as it doesn't need an sd-ext partition. However:
- Most ROMs require a partition
- You won't be able to install many apps without a partition.
You are s-off, so this gives you the power to do two things:
- change recovery -> 4EXT is better, will partition your sd card correctly
- change hboot -> allows for more optimum use of the Desire's actual internal nand memory (more space for apps).
Basically I recommend you find the guides to learn how to flash both using fastboot. Then you are in a much better position to install a ROM without issue + app space :good:

[Q] Custom Rom -> Factory Reset ?

Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.

try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .

Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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Try mildwild 14 based on redux2
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Mascarponi said:
Hi there,
I got a custom Rom installed on my HTC desire, but now a year later it's getting a bit slow .. I would like to re-install this rom (believe it was MildWild 8.0 ) but whats the best way to do this ?
Can i just make a 'factory reset' from the CWM recory menu ? Or should i wipe everything and flash the Rom again ? Or maybe some other option ?
Thanks in Advance.
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You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
conjro said:
try wipe cache and dalvik in recovery then reboot.
maybe help .
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Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.

Thanks for the help.
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD .. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
I don't use this phone that much anymore, but i wanted to have a backup phone in case my newer one gets broken or something, therefore i wanted to do a clean install on this one.
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
eddiehk6 said:
You should try to work out why it might be slow in the first place.
Are you using an sd partition for A2SD? How did you create the partition? Any other scripts?
If you want to simply reinstall the ROM, you can:
- make a nandroid backup just in case
- flash the ROM.zip straight over the top, no wipe
This may clean things a little on your /system partition, and you shouldn't lose your apps.
If you "wipe data / factory reset" within cwm, and do nothing afterwards, this will wipe the ROM and it will not boot as you won't have any OS.
You can reflash the ROM.zip after "wipe data / factory reset", this is simply a full wipe and reinstall from scratch. Make sure you have a nandroid, backed up your contacts to google, and a titanium backup of your apps etc before you try this.
Despite this being repeated millions of times in xda, it rarely ever actually solves anything. cache is just temporary files. dalvik is required for apps to function. after you wipe it, it simply rebuilds, which is why it takes so long to boot afterwards...
In other words don't bother wiping dalvik...save yourself the time.
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Mascarponi said:
It's probably getting slow because I run most apps via A2SD
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You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
.. Cant really remember how i created the partition back then, it's more than a year ago now...don't think i use other scripts.
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If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
So if i flash the ROM straight over this one, without wiping, i still got al my personal data on the phone ?
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Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
Does a Nandroid backup also backs up the apps ? Cause when i reinstall this backup it probably gets slow again right ?
Is there a way to backup only the system settings from the ROM, so that when i do a full wipe , reinstall the same ROM again, i can restore the changes i made in this ROM ?
Thanks.
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To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium

Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
If you can't remember how you did it, then there's a chance you did it wrongly. It should be done with 4EXT recovery or gparted only, not clockworkmod recovery or minitool partition wizard. You mention clockworkmod recovery, so I assume you are also still S-ON?
Yes, but make a nandroid backup first just in case
To be honest, these are kind of basics you should know before you try anything with your phone A nandroid backup is a backup of everything. When you restore it, it should be exactly the same: apps, settings, texts, home screens etc.
You should be making a nandroid backup before you wipe / install anything unless you know exactly what you're doing, as it is a safe point to restore to if anything goes wrong. You can even move them off your sdcard to PC or cloud storage to save space and for safekeeping (normally stored in the /clockworkmod folder)
You can backup anything you like with apps like Titanium Backup. It is best used for your normal apps and app data. You can backup and restore /system apps and data, but this is very risky and I don't recommend it.
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Mascarponi said:
Hey Eddie,
Thanks for you answer, really appreciate it.
I installed the custom rom on my phone more than a year ago, and back then i was really into it, now most of the details i forgot..
But it's S-OFF for sure, and i installed HBOOT also..i can't really remember how i formatted the SD card, is there a way to find that out ?
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S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
I will probably just install the same rom again, but first do a full wipe like you advised. Then it probably will work as smooth as it did in the beginning when i installed this ROM for the first time..
Do i need to reformat the SD-card again then, or is only a wipe enough?
Also, when installing apps, i now move them to SD card via the 'apps' menu -> move to SD , is that the right way to do it ? Or is there some other method ?
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Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.

eddiehk6 said:
S-OFF means you unlocked the bootloader, it's a good start but nothing more. Explain 'installed HBOOT', did you already actually flash a different hboot? Write what is says on top of your bootloader screen. If it just says 'Alpharev', means you are actually still on stock hboot.
Like I said, if you can't remember how you partitioned your sdcard, you may have done it wrongly. Please reformat it from scratch as advised.
Reformat your sdcard from the start, do it the right way so you know you've done it the right way, rather than be uncertain...then follow instructions as above.
Roms like Mildwild have A2SD built in, you only need to keep apps on 'internal' to trick them to your sd-ext partition. 'Move to SD' is redundant, and moves part of the app to the FAT32 partition of your sd card. A2SD moves all of the app apk (and dalvik cache if you choose to), to the sd-ext which is where you want.
Other ROMs you need to activate A2SD manually, read the first post. Same rule still applies, don't use 'Move to SD', because if you do, you are not actually using your sd-ext partition...
Some ROMs like MildWild are also better installed on smaller hboots like cm7r2 to use your internal memory more efficiently (stock hboot is wasteful). Again instructions should be given in the first post of each ROM.
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When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks

Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Its a script so if your apps are on internal it will automatically trick them to move them to your sd ext which is the partition you have made which is 1gb recommended...
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Mascarponi said:
When i boot up in bootloader it says:
- revolutionary -
S-off
Hboot-6.93.1002
Radio etc..
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This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
Repartitioning is probably not necassery because i already think i did, but maybe do it again then..
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No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
A2SD:
This is what i did wrong all the time..i moved them to SD card via 'apps' in settings'..maybe this is why it got a little slower by time.
However i cant find any app called A2SD or is this a script that runs automatically ?
When i check the app 'freespace' it says : internal, microSD, Sd-ext, system.
thanks
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Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you

Listen to eddie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513

eddiehk6 said:
This means you are still on stock hboot.
If you are on Mildwild ROM, you are wasting space
No, for the third time...
You think you already did it, and you have no idea how you did it...
Therefore: it is most likely is that you haven't done it, or you 've done it incorrectly.
If you've done it using clockworkmod recovery or minitool, they make bad partitions. It could be the exact reason you're having these slowdowns in the first place
You should do it with 4EXT recovery or gparted ONLY, nothing else. If neither sound familiar, then this increases your chances further that you have partitioned incorrectly...
Like I said, Mildwild ROMs have A2SD built in, it's not an app...
Have a look again at freespace. You see all that free empty space on your /system partition? This is completely wasted redundant space.
You have exactly the same internal memory layout as before you rooted / S-OFF. With S-OFF you can change your actual internal memory layout by flashing a different hboot, see alpharev.nl.
By flashing a different hboot, you reduce your /system and /cache size -> and therefore increase your /data size (internal memory) = more space for apps :good: This is probably why you rooted in the first place...
So I believe you have narrowed it down to two choices:
- Keep full wiping...and never understand what you're doing...
- Follow the instructions and try to learn what you're doing and how your memory is actually being used Set everything up from scratch. It is the only way to guarantee you have a proper setup.
Up to you
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Ok Eddie, you got me convinced
Will follow your instructions , do a full whipe, re-partition it and perform a clean install like you mentioned in a couple of posts earlier .. thanks !

eddiehk6 said:
You're supposed to run all your user installed apps via A2SD, that's why you rooted and partitioned your sd card in the first place. Otherwise you run out of space again
Personally I would recommend a full wipe and restore, setting everything up properly from the start as it should have been done in the first place. I'm assuming you're still S-ON:
- Install Titanium Backup, backup all your user apps and data (not system apps)
- Make sure your contacts are backed up to your Google account, backup SMS if you need to with another app
- Backup your whole sdcard to PC
- S-OFF with revolutionary
- Flash cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, this will optimise your actual internal memory more efficiently.
- Flash 4EXT recovery using fastboot
- Reformat your sdcard in 4EXT, partition with maximum 2GB ext4 partition, no swap
- Copy your sd card backup back
- Full wipe (wipe all partitions except sdcard)
- Flash ROM.zip
- Restore user apps + data with Titanium
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Click to collapse
Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.

Mascarponi said:
Hi Eddy,
Finally I got the time to set up everything properly on my (new) Htc Desire, cause i lost my old one
Here is what i've done so far:
- Got it Rooted via the method advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632
- Then I S-Offed with Revolutionary script, and installed CWM 5.0.2.0 .. not really what you advised me but i wanted to test if it was working, cause i had this recovery on my old phone also.
- Then I flashed cm7r2 hboot using Android Flasher. Could not get it to work via CMD->Fastboot on windows.
- Now i end up with a boot loop, only giving me the white HTC screen. When booting up in Hboot, it says:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
S-Off
HBoot-6.93.1002
I can enter CWM recovery, but it gives me some errors like 'E: Can't open /cache/recovery/log
And like i said: booting normally it ends up in a bootloop.
Did i do anything wrong, and what s the best way to move on now ?
Thanks in advance.
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When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.

jmcclue said:
When u change hboot u have perform full wipe then reflash rom or restore nandroid backup. So in recovery wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache then reboot recovery then flash rom or restore nandroid backup if u have one.
Also ul prob need to partition ur sdcard for a2sd in roms so u must use 4ext recovery or gparted only. So again, flash 4ext recovery.
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Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?

Mascarponi said:
Ok thats clear, thanks for your reply.
I'd like to install 4Ext recovery, but it seems installing this recovery is done a little different from other recoveries right ?
Cause on their website it's done via an app frome the market..
Should i install a new rom first, then install 4Ext recovery ? Or can i flash 4Ext recovery from a zipfile in clockworkmod recovery ?
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Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.

jmcclue said:
Go to desire general and ul see a thread by me "4ext recovery as PB99IMG" download and extract the file and flash the recovery.img via fastboot commands then once u have a rom installed u can download the 4ext app and update the recovery to latest version.
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Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?

Mascarponi said:
Thanks.
Installed it , and am trying to re-partition my SD-card (8 Gb) in the 4Ext recovery mode.
I followed this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2125513
Set 1st sd-ext partition to 2048 mb, skipped second, and skipped swap.
But then i get the message:
You new partiotion table would look like this:
Fat32: 5580 mb
SD-ext: 2048MB
Is that correct ? Shouldn't be all the memory on the SD-card partitioned to SD-ext ?
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Yh that looks right.
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lilsafbig said:
Yh that looks right.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Free mobile app
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Okay thanks.
I thought that the whole SD-card would be partitioned as 4ext.
Is it true that A2SD now only uses the 4Ext partition (2gb) to trick apps to ?
Anyway, i'm happy to have my desire now set-up properly, so thanks for your help
I tried 2 Mildwild roms already, but didn't find a way to encrypt SD-card within these roms , does anybody knows if that's possible somehow ?
Any suggestions for other (Mildwild) Roms ? (tried MildWild MW-14 and MildWild CM-8.0 JG Stable)
Thanks.