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Hey everyone,
I haven't seen this angle mentioned any. In trying to fix some verrrry frequent rebooting, I upgraded my hboot to 2.10. (Don't snicker, I had tried everything else and figured I might as well give that a shot too.)
Through some magical combination of things, my phone got back to being fairly stable with CM7. And then a few days later I developed a dead strip towards the top of my screen. So looks like I have to send it in for repair.
I've successfully unrooted, setting S back to ON and installing a stock ROM. Then I got to thinking and wondered if they'd be able to tell I've rooted by my hboot number. I'm guessing that's something that isn't exactly updated OTA and they might notice that my hardware version shouldn't have the updated bootloader.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
If you've got s-on, stock rom, ran and update immediately afterward, and deleted any "rooting" file off your internal memory and sdcard, you've got nothing to fear.
I doubt they'll notice. Running an RUU updates your hboot, doesn't it? I might be wrong, but if I'm right the OTA update should do the same.
If they do notice, just play dumb.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
plainjane said:
I doubt they'll notice. Running an RUU updates your hboot, doesn't it? I might be wrong, but if I'm right the OTA update should do the same.
If they do notice, just play dumb.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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It tried to update the hboot, but said it couldn't. That's what prompted my thought, that maybe the hboot was "too new" or something.
grifta67 said:
It tried to update the hboot, but said it couldn't. That's what prompted my thought, that maybe the hboot was "too new" or something.
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Regardless, 2.10 is the latest hboot, so I don't think you need to worry. If you had the .76 eng bootloader, I'd be worried.
Ive taken my rooted evo with stock rom into sprint twice to have the screen fixed, which broke twice. They didnt even notice there was anything different with my phone.
kvnbrkbl said:
Ive taken my rooted evo with stock rom into sprint twice to have the screen fixed, which broke twice. They didnt even notice there was anything different with my phone.
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Well of course, stock rom But personally, I would, just to be safe.
kvnbrkbl said:
Ive taken my rooted evo with stock rom into sprint twice to have the screen fixed, which broke twice. They didnt even notice there was anything different with my phone.
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The OP said HTC not Sprint. From what I've read in the forums, HTC does somewhat check on your phone whether or not it was rooted.
The OP mentioned his screen broke which is a hardware defect. I would just take it to Sprint see what they say instead of going through HTC.
Ok so i know that gingerbread doesnt have root yet, but i installed the mod for the sense launcher it didnt work but my s-on isnt on its off... i dont know if this means anything to anybody ill upload a pictureee. Does this mean we might be closer to root?
i think i uploaded the picture ?
Yup. U r a lucky Guy. Put a copy of amon RA onto the root of ur SD card. Boot onto the bootloader and when it asks if u want to update say yes. U will then be able to flash whatever u like
If you were s-off before, you should still be s-off after. I have two s-off EVOs that I was going to sell, so I restored them to latest OTA (yea I'm a jerk!) but they stayed s-off (lucky for those when I do decide to sell).
I don't get the point of this, unless you had an S-ON phone and somehow got it S-OFF after the 2.16 hboot and 2.3.3 android upgrade.
YES! thats the thing! I unrooted, got the gingerbread update, after installation and what not it said S-ON. now it says s-off and i have no idea what i did, i been doing so much crap to my phone i dotn even remember what i did. I wanted to try the sense launcher from tommytomatoe and it froze my phone and couldnt do nothing. So i pressed power volume down and it now said s-off.
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YES! thats the thing! I unrooted, got the gingerbread update, after installation and what not it said S-ON. now it says s-off and i have no idea what i did, i been doing so much crap to my phone i dotn even remember what i did. I wanted to try the sense launcher from tommytomatoe and it froze my phone and couldnt do nothing. So i pressed power volume down and it now said s-off.
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If what you say is true, you might be able to help the rooting effort by pulling some info off your phone that could be valuable to the devs. I would explain the situation to them, and offer whatever info they need from your phone.
They'll probably call shenanigans on you-- I know I would. But maybe-- just maybe, your Evo carries the mutant X gene that we need to crack this puzzle.
Nice man! maybe just maybe your phone is the "root" of all hahahahaha
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If what you say is true, you might be able to help the rooting effort by pulling some info off your phone that could be valuable to the devs. I would explain the situation to them, and offer whatever info they need from your phone.
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This!
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scoot16 said:
Ok so i know that gingerbread doesnt have root yet, but i installed the mod for the sense launcher it didnt work but my s-on isnt on its off... i dont know if this means anything to anybody ill upload a pictureee. Does this mean we might be closer to root?
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Did you have root before at all? Did you use Unrevoked3 to root before? If you did, how did you unroot?
Yes i used unrevoke 3 to root but i installed a stock froyo ruu unrooted because after i tried to unroot with unrevoked it didnt work. After i installed the froyo ruu it said S-ON, i then went on to install gingerbread, went back to check the hboot to see if everything was right and it still said S-ON, then i went thru every process to root my phone just to see if i could try soemthing but failed of course. I then wanted to try tommytomatoe sense launcher for unrooted and after my phone froze alot i went to clear data by pressing power and volume down. That is when i saw it was S-OFF. do you want to know anythingg else?
Please unroot again and post pics , you are still trying to unroot are you not. Go go.
Im cant unroot, im not even rooted, im running stock gingerbread ota 4.24.651.1
Did you flash the s-on tool when you unrooted?
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Did you flash the s-on tool when you unrooted?
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Yes sir. I did all that was needed to unroot my phone.
Don't think running a ruu will turn s-on. Once you are s-off, you are s-off until you run the s-on tool. Correct me if I am wrong.
Swyped from my Supersonic
i am so tempted to try this....
can you provide the link to this tommytomato mod , at this point, i dont care if i brick my evo ill just go harass sprint and get a refurb or something if i do
LCL22 said:
i am so tempted to try this....
can you provide the link to this tommytomato mod , at this point, i dont care if i brick my evo ill just go harass sprint and get a refurb or something if i do
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This didnt do nothing it was because of the mess up on my end did i go and find the s-on.
You need to write down everything you did and the order you did it. Also please provide the links that you used.
Also, was it the 4.22 or the 4.24 that you updated to?
*Edit* Nevermind I just saw your earlier post
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Yes i used unrevoke 3 to root but i installed a stock froyo ruu unrooted because after i tried to unroot with unrevoked it didnt work. After i installed the froyo ruu it said S-ON, i then went on to install gingerbread, went back to check the hboot to see if everything was right and it still said S-ON, then i went thru every process to root my phone just to see if i could try soemthing but failed of course. I then wanted to try tommytomatoe sense launcher for unrooted and after my phone froze alot i went to clear data by pressing power and volume down. That is when i saw it was S-OFF. do you want to know anythingg else?
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I say somehow some way when u attempted to re-root it went thru cuz that's the only logical way s-off could've been attained. Clearing ur data won't and u were s-on before u took the OTA update so it wasn't present before hand. Have you tried flashing another rom from recovery just to see if it works? You my friend maybe the "MVD" lol!!!
Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
What problems are you having with the RUU that you flashed? You can't downgrade, as you found out, so being stock S-ON you don't have many options other than flashing a different 2.3 stock image, and/or waiting for the actual OTA.
resyek83 said:
Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
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The only way i know to get back to 2.2 is to s-off your phone then ruu the 2.2. which will get you back to s-on 2.2, but you will be get the update nag every day once they start pushing the OTA out again.
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Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
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For the moment, I think you are SOL, only because the same thing happened to me.
If you have 2.3.4 and S-ON, there's not really a way to downgrade back to 2.2, as HBOOT won't allow a downgrade. In fact, only PB31IMG.zip files that are signed by HTC will allow to be flashed. All others will not be recognized by HBOOT.
Unrevoked will no longer root after you have flashed RUU and have S-ON. You will get the error you are describing.
I have also tried newer root tools, such as Revolutionary, which is in the Beta phase.
Unfortunately, this method is not supported for the Incredible, and per Unrevoked's support channel on IRC, this is not likely, as apparently a phone that is only over a year old is considered a 'Legacy' device.
At this point we can only hope for the following:
HTC unlocks the Bootloader for the Droid Incredible on HTCdev.com. Only a handful of devices are listed at the moment.
Team Unrevoked releases a new version of Unrevoked that can find an exploit for 2.3.4 and enable root.
Revolutionary adds support for 'legacy' devices such as the incredible.
We are in a small minority, but hopefully enough devices will get the OTA, or refurbs get sent out with 2.3.4 that users will eventually require a new way to root.
Hang in there.
Yeah, if you're s on then from everything I've read, your screwed for now.
ahh ok....yea i kinda figured. I should have done a tad more research before I did it....everything works ok at the moment, except my battery life isnt as good as it was, but its not terrible. I guess I'll wait for the official OTA or wait and see if Unrevoked can come up with a solution.
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-off flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-on.
TheBr0ken said:
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-on flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-off.
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Doing that with S-On is what has OP in this position in the first place. You have the right idea but mixed up S-On and S-Off.
TheBr0ken said:
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-on flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-off.
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Thank you, Captain Hindsight. In my situation, I was coming from a Rooted, 2.3 Sense 3.0 ROM, with S-Off.
I believe S-off is swicthed back to S-ON when you flash the RUU.
In the mean time, my phone is borked. Too new of a firmware on too "old" of a device.
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Doing that with S-On is what has OP in this position in the first place. You have the right idea but mixed up S-On and S-Off.
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yup, fixed.
deadsoulboy said:
Thank you, Captain Hindsight. In my situation, I was coming from a Rooted, 2.3 Sense 3.0 ROM, with S-Off.
I believe S-off is swicthed back to S-ON when you flash the RUU.
In the mean time, my phone is borked. Too new of a firmware on too "old" of a device.
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what killed you was you musta flashed the s-on patch for some reason. I ran the same file you did. I still have s-off
The RUU does NOT turn the security flag to -ON. You do lose root until you flash a custom recovery and superuser, which is done easily.
Any hope for us S-ONs with 2.3.4? Is there something by way of unrevoked or something we can flash to try and get back to root?
There has to be something...
So I have a droid inc that I'm sending back in, and I want to revert it to stock. Right now, I'm running s-off, with a rooted stock OTA 2.3.4 (Incubusj's, I think) with the latest CWM. What do I need to do to make this thing bone stock to return it? I've done a search, and maybe I just suck at searching, but I can't find good, concise directions, and I don't want to screw it up.
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So I have a droid inc that I'm sending back in, and I want to revert it to stock. Right now, I'm running s-off, with a rooted stock OTA 2.3.4 (Incubusj's, I think) with the latest CWM. What do I need to do to make this thing bone stock to return it? I've done a search, and maybe I just suck at searching, but I can't find good, concise directions, and I don't want to screw it up.
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Search for the Ultimate get back to stock thread. It'll tell you what you need to to to get back to Stock 2.2 with S-ON.
That thread seems rather old. I'm running the 2.15.10.07.07 radio on hboot .92. Do I still just run the s-on and then run the RUU?
Well, was probably unnecessary, but I reverted to the old radio, flashed a rooted stock rom, then ran s-on through recovery, then a stock pb31img rom through bootloader. So it is bone stock again.
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That thread seems rather old. I'm running the 2.15.10.07.07 radio on hboot .92. Do I still just run the s-on and then run the RUU?
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True, that thread is old, but the info is still good. Good call on reverting back the radio, as you don't want that to cause any troubles. Pretty easy to get back to stock and S-ON huh?
Ok, a few users here have offered advice/assistance, but I fear this problem has been forgotten.
I am stuck with an S-ON, 2.3.4 Droid Incredible, and am looking for a way to acquire root again.
This happened a few weeks ago, with the leak of the 2.3.4 OTA. Flashed S-ON via CWM (not aware I would permanently lose Root), then flashed the OTA as PB31IMG.zip in HBOOT.
Now, Unrevoked no longer roots the device. HBOOT will not allow downgrading to a 2.2 IMG, nor will it flash any downgraded Radio/HBOOT versions. I've tried them all from Dougpiston.com, even the signed ones.
I've attempted to contact the folks at Unrevoked about this issue on IRC, but I can't ever get a reliable dialogue going with anyone, and I believe they are busy working on Revolution, for Incredible 2/S & Newer devices.
Throwing my hands up, I even called Verizon, gave them an excuse to send me a replacement, just so I could start fresh with a 2.2 phone, but I am out of warranty.
I really want to enjoy Sense 3.0/MIUI, even Cyanogenmod, but the outlook is not so good.
Is there any solution I haven't tried yet? Please help.
Unless Unrevoked or someone else finds a new root method you're pretty much out of luck.
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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That's most likely true. 2.3.4 is being pushed out to the Incredible now, so they would probably run the newest RUU on their Incredible devices.
I feel your pain deadsoulboy, and I've seen your posts lamenting your situation on other threads. Only solace I can offer you is that generally the source code and RUU are made available within 30 days of the OTA, at which point the developers are completely free to tear into them with reckless abandon and hopefully the folks at unrevoked figure things out.
It's also distinctly possible that HTC will unlock the bootloader the way it has with others of its handsets, in which case you'll be back in business.
Until then, my friend, I believe you are rootless.
i have the same problem. its been a couple months.... am i still hosed?
Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
I used Scotty1223's instructions a few weeks ago and it worked like a charm.
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
alexyaz said:
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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Check this out. http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
Ok, I rooted with unrevoked a long time ago. Broke my screen and need to unroot. I followed the unroot unrevoked guide as closely as I could, but the rom in the link was not found. So I downloaded a different ruu.zip of factory rom, don't ask me which one, because I can't find the link anymore, but currently here is where I stand. Hboot kept saying that the img was older or something, and wouldn't flash. So I did a stupid thing and pushed the zip with clockwork. So now I'm running s-on with clockwork recovery and a stock unrooted rom. So, I tried the next thing, downloaded an 3.7 ruu .exe and tried to run that from windows, but it gives me an hboot usb connection error f*ucking **** 1 thing after another.
This is the unrooting guide I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
I got s-on, and tried that pc36img but it wouldn't work, originally. Before I went on to screw things up.
I've been at this for hours, something that should have taken 10 minutes if I wasn't an idiot, or bad links, or what ever. Can someone tell me or point me in the right direction, of what to do here, preferably not to a 2 year old thread with outdated links? What should I do?`
A List of android stock RUU zips with radio, pri, recovery all in one would be great, but I give up on trying to find that, its buried or does not exist.
I found this list http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs but its just the rom not everything.
So here is where my phone stands
S-ON
Hboot .97
Clockwork recovery 2.5.0.7<<<<<<
Android version 2.2.2
Build number 4.54
PRI 1.90_003
Angrychair420 here is a stock RUU that I know is good you should be able to run the RUU from windows.
http://geekfor.me/evo/ruu/evo_ruu_1326511/
thanks, that says its img version 1.32.651.1, assume thats safe to use. I assume thats andoid 3.26 which is what came on my phone. Ugh I'm in over my head. Why did my screen have to break, i was totally happy with CM7 and everything the way it was.
what if I wipe my data and caches, remove SD card, put on a PC36IMG.zip and boot the phone into hboot, will it still give me the older version error?
edit: the link you gave me gives me the same error as the other ruu.exe:
The ROM Update Utility cannot update your android phone
Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again
Possibly but I did have to return mine for repair and I know that using it as a .exe file trough windows I had no problem. Not sure about making it into a PC36IMG.zip file though I have not tried it that way.
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thanks, that says its img version 1.32.651.1, assume thats safe to use. I assume thats andoid 3.26 which is what came on my phone. Ugh I'm in over my head. Why did my screen have to break, i was totally happy with CM7 and everything the way it was.
what if I wipe my data and caches, remove SD card, put on a PC36IMG.zip and boot the phone into hboot, will it still give me the older version error?
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It might. There are 3 PC36IMG files in the first "My Links" link in my signature. You can try them in order if you'd like, if you get the "main version is older" message, but if the first two don't work, the last one definitely will.
Thanks cpt, about to give them a try. Sigh man, this is frustratingly harder than rooting :-D If it was as easy as doing the s-on and copy the pc36img.zip to the root of sd and booting into hboot and DONE, I would of been having a much better day.
Try the latest RUUs from this link man:
http://www.filefactory.com/f/acf0b850b0f70d7b/
Have you tried this?
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g/
You can also try this
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/03/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g.html
I appreciate the help guys. I will keep posted. You know how much it sucks to slide on a touchscreen thats broken? lol
partyman1971 said:
Have you tried this?
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g/
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Yes, that's the first RUU.exe I tried. said this RUU can't update
ok i got a pc36img.zip installing from hboot right now.
edit:dang main version is older error. Trying a wipe then hboot then pc36img.zip
Same outcome, main version is older.
partyman1971 said:
Have you tried this?
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g/
You can also try this
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/03/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g.html
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yes, they are basically the same method I used in my OP from xda forums.
On to captain_throwbacks second ruu.
Just to make sure, this all isn't in vain, and make you all hate me, after applying one of these successfully, my recovery should go back to factory and no longer be clockwork, right? or wrong, because I'm starting to think I am. But won't taking your device in for service with clockwork be a dead giveaway that it was rooted.
I think I'm just going to go get a new phone for a $100 deductible at this point. and replace the screen my self on my old one and keep it as a backup/test device. Thanks for all the help, but I am surrendering :-D hopefully I can reroot this thing again with unrevoked, since my hboot is still .97 and fix the screen my self.
It generally doesn't matter if its rooted. I've never unrooted since launch day. And I've had 3 screen replacements, 3 speaker rwolacements , a bezel replaced, and camera lens cover replaced (last time, I dropped it off with ICS), about to go get my 4th screen (just cracked it again lol).
Sorry for your experience/frustration.
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well last stupid question i promise, since i still have clockwork isntalled, i can just restore my CM7 backup, but how do i get s-off back, re unrevoked it i assume?
If your'e worried about the warranty thing, just flash a stock rooted rom, or use a phone repair service. i see three or four repair places on craigslist (granted, that you live in a large city).
yeah no worries. Got it back to S-OFF, and CM7 back on it, just going to fix the screen my self, ordered one for $15.
thread can be locked, deleted, or what ever.
Seriously. Dude, isn't there a sprint store near you?. Just take it in. Put a stockish rom on it if you're that worried about it. They should replace it for free.
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