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Has anyone else come across the problem where the micro SD card seems to just stop being available to the phone? I'd say maybe once or so a day, anything that reads data from the SD card, such as the music app, stop working. If I try and play a song, it just hangs and does nothing.
I tried a search and somebody in the G1 forum had a similar problem but it didn't really contain any conclusions on what it is likely to be.
Anyone else had this issue? What is it most likely to be, the phone or card?
Thanks.
yeah I've had this occasionally with the camerea and seperately the 3d gallery software I installed.. have no idea why
Yea I've had that a couple of times actually. Just have to turn it off and on again and its ok, but its annoying.
Yeah, rebooting does sort it out, but it's starting to happen every day now, sometimes a couple times a day. If it's just a dodgy card or whatever I'd rather get T-Mobile to sort it sooner rather than later.
hmm a dodgy card.. included with the phone, that sucks
Backup your SD Card data and then try formatting it to see if that helps.
Cheers, will give that a go tomorrow. I might ring up T-Mob tomorrow anyway just to make them aware of the issue I'm having.
If I format it, will I be able to copy all the contents back on to it?
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Cheers, will give that a go tomorrow. I might ring up T-Mob tomorrow anyway just to make them aware of the issue I'm having.
If I format it, will I be able to copy all the contents back on to it?
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Yes, back it up to hard drive on your PC, then after you have formatted your SD card, copy back the contents from the hard drive to your Removable disk (SD card).
I've had this a few times Took the card out, reinserted and restarted the phone. Seemed to fix it, but it is annoying.
Sorry I can't remember when and how I know this.
But backup the card on your PC
Then format it in/with the phone and this should solve the problem I believe
I had killed one of my 16 GB card in Nexus one.
I found a problem that if i use Win 7 or Vista i must remove the device by using safely remove the USB device. Since now am doing this way i never had any problem.
Word of warning you could simply kill a card if you just remove a device.
My first thought was it has something to do with the USB connection. If you safely remove device in Windows - the phone 'prepares' the SD card.
I was having the same issue. I connected to the PC and mounted the SD card. I performed a disk check on the card and it found some errors which it then repaired. I then unmounted the card
I haven't had any issues since.
I formatted my card yesterday and haven't had any problems so far. thanks for the advice.
I ended up replacing the card. All of the previous advice didn't work for me or if it did it didn't last. I reckon there was a bit of a dodgy batch supplied by SanDisk.
~Since replacing I've had absolutely no problems whatsoever, it used to happen at least every 48hours. Very annoying when you try to take a photo and it tells you there's nowhere to save it.
I've been having problems too when taking pictures, which is really annoying!
And i'm not sure whether this is a related problem or not, but it could be...when trying to receive a file over bluetooth it sometimes says it doesn't have permission to receive the file or something along those lines, could this be the SD card playing up?
I'm on T Mobile, would they replace the SD card?
Not sure if it is the same reason, but I had all kinds of problems including the one you've described.
I'm on Orange, they told me that my SD card wasn't covered by Orange Care (the orange phone insurance). I said I didn't have Orange Care anyway and that surely it comes under the 12 months manufacturers warranty. They said pop it into the shop which is a bit of a drive and would cost me more than the value of a new card to get there.
At the time I wasn't certain it was the card as I didn't have a 2nd to try it with. Given my problem was very intermittent I decided the bother of going into the shop - it wasn't worth it for a £5 card. Now that I've bought a new one that works perfectly, I'm going to head into the shop with the old one next time I'm passing. The problem is I don't really need it replacing now! You could always lie and tell them you've tried your friends card at home for a couple of days and it worked perfectly?! No harm in trying.
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I had killed one of my 16 GB card in Nexus one.
I found a problem that if i use Win 7 or Vista i must remove the device by using safely remove the USB device. Since now am doing this way i never had any problem.
Word of warning you could simply kill a card if you just remove a device.
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Mhh - maybe I've had luck, but I use my over 1 year old 8gb cl6 card from magic/mt3g and never use that win function while unpluging anything (not while data transfer). So maybe depends on quality or manufacturer?
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2-3 weeks since I've formatted my card and now I'm carefully unpluging my phone only when it's charging it hasn't happened ever since
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I've had this a few times Took the card out, reinserted and restarted the phone. Seemed to fix it, but it is annoying.
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I hate to say it, but it will happen again. Have card reader or other phone prepared, just in case your sd card stops working totally
Well, basically as the title says. This's happened several times to me already. Say I'll turn my phone on (from standby) I'll get a popup error saying that the backup was unable to complete because no SD card was found. Next, the music application won't load the songs because those're all stored on the card. Same for Photos/Gallery. When I go to ES File Explorer, the 'sdcard' folder reports that it is empty.
There hasn't been a pattern that I discovered. This just happened now when I woke up (phone left charging overnight; Wi-Fi & Sync enabled) and I decided to come post here. Happened again yesterday afternoon when I got my phone out to play some music on the way home.
Every once in a while, I'd get lucky and the files would show up by themselves, but the only fool-proof way I've found to get the phone working properly again is a restart, which takes several minutes to do.
I am NOT running any task manager (well, I was but when this problem started up I checked another thread which recommended to remove the task manager, so I did).
Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Do you know of a fix, or is it just me?
Mine's done this a couple of times, but I've put it down to the SD card not being quite pushed home properly. Worth taking it out and cleaning the contacts.
Nope, that doesn't work. I re-inserted it yesterday (contacts were clean) and this morning woke up with the same problem.
Please tell me this isn't just happening to me, cause it'll be a right pain in the ass to have this repaired (sending abroad/etc).
Is the SD Card the one you got with the phone (4Gb) or another make/model size? Please include details so others can help more.
I have left the given Samsung Class 2 4Gb SD card in mine and I have never had any issues with the SD Card unmounting. This is not saying it won't happen, but for me it has been fine. I was going to upgrade to my other Sandisk 16Gb Class 2 that used to be in my Touch Pro, but will do that hopefully this evening.
So all I can guess is either a faulty card or some issue with Class/Size/Manufacturer of Card (if you changed from the Samsung one) ?
It's the stock 4GB card that came pre-installed in the phone. Phone's unlocked too, bought from Clove. If it helps/is relevant: when I loaded up the camera it gave an error saying something like 'no sufficient read permissions for SD card'*, maybe that'd be a clue to the problem.
*I can't quote exactly cause I've since restarted the phone and can't remember it word for word. If/when this happens again I'll post the exact error.
EDIT: There, it just happened again. Restarted the phone not even an hour ago, it's getting ridiculous. Anyway, the error from the camera reads "Unable to save file to SD card due to insufficient file permissions".
FWIW, when I go to SD & Phone Storage settings i CAN see the total and available space on the card. It's just completely inaccessible by the programs. Have also tried the 'SDMount' widget, did absolutely nothing.
Happens to me too but only when I've been letting go of my phone to put it down rather than placing it down, or if I have to drop it on my bed or chair quick.
Happened to me a lot too when I was using one of the lock screen info apps, to get my calendar info on the lock screen. Uninstalled and the SD card problem went away.
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Never used that :/
I've uninstalled all apps that seemingly access the SD card and will start reinstalling one by one to see if the problem does come back. Only way I could think of.
It is happening to me also. The last 3 days is doing it at least twice a day , i have the desire almost one month and neved had this problem earlier.
And i though it was something i did.
i had the same camera permissions problem. restarted and havnt seen it again since. 4gb card that came with the unbranded device. no idea what caused it, could be any number off new apps etc :S
I've got the same problem.
I've already tried to reformat my SDcard, but the problem still exists. Another problem when the SD card unmounts, is the CPU usage. This rises to ~10% constantly. Probably cause of this are apps which are trying to write to my SDcard.
Still no solution found, maybe I'll try another SD card in a couple of days.
FWIW, I gave up on the stock card and copied all my stuff over to another 4GB card I had running around (straight copy) and it seems to be working fine now. Haven't had a problem yet, although it hasn't even been 24 hours.
Will report back if/when something comes up, and when I start re-installing the apps that I previously removed.
I wrote to HTC earlier yesterday describing the same problem, and I just received this reply:
Dear Mr.Matthew Thank you for contacting HTC. Maybe you mount it on the pc to copy nd paste something and you forgot to unmount it from the pc.. Are you using the inbox SD card? Did you install any third party applications to the phone? Please use the phone in Safe Mode. Safe mode terminates all installed running applications, in case if they caused this issue. Please backup what you have on the SD Card and Format it. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com
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Only thing I have not yet tried is the Safe Mode. Will see if it needs to get to that.
i had this issue when I installed 'ebuddy'... uninstalled it and the problem is no more
It's started to occur on mine at least twice daily now, it wasn't so before about 4 days back. I've just actually restarted the device on getting such an error and apps complaining that they can't read/write to the SD card. Really after some sort of fix here.
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i had this issue when I installed 'ebuddy'... uninstalled it and the problem is no more
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You're right it seems that was my problem too.
I got rid off ebuddy and all is fine now
I've had this problem once so far, and reading the reply from HTC reminds me that I have unplugged my phone from my mac without unmounting it a few times...
I am also having this issue and have ebuddy installed! I shall uninstall it and see if it fixes it! I really hope it does because its starting to get annoying
I too have ebuddy installed and shall also try removing it and see if that fixes it!
I don't have ebuddy installed but just experienced the SD card error with the camera today.
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Hello!
I'm wondering if there's anything out there that does what Apps2SD+ does but takes out the unfortunate bit of me needing to reformat and restore every other day because of the SD card becoming damaged.
Thanks guys!
Are you disconnecting your phone from pc only while in "charge only" mode?
That is the main reason for corrupted sd cards, there are no issues with a2sd+
You mean if I plug the phone into my computer to charge only, there's a step I have to take before I simply pull the plug?
No, file transfer to/from sd card (disk drive mode), you need to return it to "charge only" before unplugging usb, as it can cause sd card to unmount by itself, and finally stop working
Ahh. I see. Thank you, I'll do that then from now on.
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Hmm.. did everything right and it broke again. *sigh* now to start the several hour long process of extracting everything off the damaged MicroSD card that I want, formatting it (which only Windows XP can do for some reason) and restoring the ROM on the internal phone storage (since it now can't boot up with or without the damaged card in).
Apps2SD+ is just too great to abandon for this reason, so I guess I won't use disk mode again. Kind of a pain in the *** if I want to transfer anything big. Dropbox is pretty awesome, but it'll only get you so far.
This makes me wonder if there's some kind of threshold or number of apps you can have installed through Apps2SD+ where if you do anything over that number, there's just too much going on to enter and exit disk mode successfully.
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Hmm.. did everything right and it broke again. *sigh* now to start the several hour long process of extracting everything off the damaged MicroSD card that I want, formatting it (which only Windows XP can do for some reason) and restoring the ROM on the internal phone storage (since it now can't boot up with or without the damaged card in).
Apps2SD+ is just too great to abandon for this reason, so I guess I won't use disk mode again. Kind of a pain in the *** if I want to transfer anything big. Dropbox is pretty awesome, but it'll only get you so far.
This makes me wonder if there's some kind of threshold or number of apps you can have installed through Apps2SD+ where if you do anything over that number, there's just too much going on to enter and exit disk mode successfully.
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there must be somthing wrong with your sd card pal. im using apps2sd+ with a 1gig ext3 partiton, i must have 2 or 300 apps easly and its never happened to me, maybe you should move the dalvik cache back to your fone as the constant i/o does wear down sd cards quickly
Can't wait till the next webOS device...
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Can't wait till the next webOS device...
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you can shove webOS up ya ass lol im waiting for the samsung galaxy Q
That the prequel to the S?
Xephrey said:
That the prequel to the S?
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no its the successor to the s, its a galaxy s with a qwerty keyboard and a 1 gig hummingbird cpu
I gotta see this!
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And again today... I've finally retired my 8gig MicroSD (the problematic one) to my Canon. I guess it's that 2nd partition that just pushes it over the edge. Or it's just plain defective, as has been suggested. Looks like I'll be falling back on the 4gig the Desire came with. It won't be my main music / podcast player, so that capacity should be more than enough.
Good eveneing dear community
I realize that FroYo was a major leap forward for quite a few of us, especially those limited in phone storage (I'm talking about Nexus One and Desire owners in particular). However, I think there is something seriously wrong with those App2SD capabilities.
I recently got the impression that moving applications to SD storage is killing SD cards too fast. Just after the first official FroYo OTA, I discovered and used the posibility to force move applications to SD storage using ADB shell. The result was that virtually any application could be moved out of the phone's internal storage. So far, so good.
But considering that we get updates from the market every few hours, SD cards are under much more pressure now than they were designed to, aren't they? I'm saying this, because in the exact same configuration I mentioned above, my cards keep dying. Before the OTA, I bought an expensive class 10 Kingston microSDHC card and the performance was indeed remarkable. However, after the OTA and my ADB stunt, my card would get mounted as read-only every few days now. In addition to that, I can't run any applications on the card anymore and the entire system becomes unstable. Unmounting the card using the Android system settings is not possible and neither is formatting. Instead, my phone would sometimes reboot. At first I thought this was a problem with my Kingston SD.
When I ran some tests and did the same things with the official 4 GB card that shipped with my phone as well as with another 8 GB card that came with an older Nokia phone of mine I realized that it wasn't a problem specific to my Kingston card. All of them showed the exact same behavior. This is not just annoying, it also causes data loss, which in my case is unnacceptable!
Has anybody experienced the same? Is this a problem of Android 2.2 or is it just the way microSDHC works? What, besides mounting said damaged cards in a Laptop in attempt fix, can we do about it?
Thank you for any suggestions.
My next phone must have at least 8 GB of internal storage...
Define "dying".
If by dying you mean Android reports there's something wrong with your card, then more likely the problem is software-related rather than the SD being overused.
I got the "your card is fubar" message from my phone but it was as a result of me damaging the file system with a sketchy file manager app. I put it in my computer, did a scandisk. This found the problem, fixed it, I put it back in my phone, voila, perfect again.
Or your problem might be related to the method you're forcibly moving the apps to your SD card. Since you're doing it with ADB rather than through the operating system itself, it's possible apps are corrupting your card's file system as a result of not realizing where they're located. Just a guess.
In any case, SD cards don't (and won't) die from the sort of use you're describing. What might be harmful is storing frequently-used cache on your SD card, but that's not something that you're doing.
Keep in mind that SD cards are intended to be used in cameras, camcorders, etc, and these things write a lot more frequently and aggressively to the card than a little app storage here and there.
I'm not exactly an expert but I'm definitely what I'd call an enthusiast, and let me tell you with certainty: you really have nothing to worry about. Your problem is most likely a software (or related file system issue) or else caused by a one-in-a-thousand random hardware defect. Android, or more specifically, app to SD, isn't a problem.
Maybe you've heard of solid state drives for computers, these are becoming more common. I use one in fact. They operate using technology similar to SD card storage and if ANYTHING was going to stress these things, it would be running a whole computer off them, temp files and all.
Finally, if you're still a little afraid, let me remind you that in fact your phone itself uses the same kind of flash storage as an SD card. Every phone, MP3 player, and similar device does. So in a sense, if wearing out your storage is a concern for you, isn't it better to wear out a replaceable SD card than your phone's irreplaceable internal storage?
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So now assuming you trust me that there's nothing to worry about, I would suggest you stop forcibly moving apps to your SD card as a possible long-term solution. If you stop getting card problems, you know what the problem was. Since this means you'll run low on storage, I'd then suggest you install a custom OS that allows you to force-move apps from within Android itself, such as Cyanogenmod.
I've been using this mod since it came out and have had no problems. As mentioned above it must be software related to your phone.
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Thank you so much for calming me down. I just got the impression that my cards are toast. However, as long as there is a possibility to fix this using my laptop, I'm on the good side.
I disabled that ADB stunt, let's look what the next few days bring.
Just an idea: if your phone (or the sd slot, for that matter) would be somehow messed up, wouldn't that show the same symptoms? It would even explain why _every_ card acts that way. Maybe it's a bad contact in the slot, who knows...
Hi all,
I have an Epic 4G for Sprint, never unlocked, stock ROM Android 2.2.1 EC05.
I recently bought and inserted a 32 gb microSDcard from Amazon (search "Patriot Signature 32 GB Class 10 MicroSDHC Flash Memory Card PSF32GMCSDHC10", can't insert hyperlinks yet).
I once made the mistake of NOT unmounting the card when disconnecting from my Windows 7 64-bit desktop. The phone told me the card was damaged and had to be formatted. I did this and everything seemed back to normal, although my card was wiped clean.
Since then the phone has randomly shown me with the same message twice, even when it has not been plugged into a PC or a wall charger for hours. Wiping the card clean has been my only option both times.
Ever since the failed Froyo update and the patch, my phone has had multiple annoyances, sudden freezes of the notification pulldown etc. I can't exactly pinpoint when the MicroSD failure happens or if something causes it. otherwise the card is fast and read/write speeds are excellent - 30.91 gb available. Both times the phone was at low battery, but not zero battery.
I do have Advanced Task Killer (start when Android starts) and a free app to move apps 2 SD. Both were downloaded from the Market.
Please help! Not having reliable memory means I can't do much with my phone at all. If its a bad card, then oh no! But if there are ways to troubleshoot or just discard this card and get another one.
When you format the card, are you doing it from within the phone or Windows?
Always from my phone. It won't let me do anything else unless I format it.
Try taking it out of the phone, then formatting it directly from the computer, FAT32 format.
Put it in an SD card adapter, formatted to FAT 32 in Windows. That took half an hour. Everything is good so far. Any other precautions I can take ? Thanks again.
Alternately, is there a SD card and/or phone contacts backup utility you guys recommend.
If your contacts are saved to your google account it should automatically sync them.
Alternatively, you could save them to your SD card and then copy the entire contents of your SD card to your computers HD.
There is a bunch of generic micro sd 32gb cards that do not function properly even they are not truly 32gb as they say, I had one of those and nothing but problems I think it was like around actual 4gb but they made to appear like 32gb.
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Fyi: loose advance task killer. There is no need for it on newer android devices and causes more problems
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Fyi: loose advance task killer. There is no need for it on newer android devices and causes more problems
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I'd disagree. Don't run it in the background or use the autokill functions, but it does let you kill more apps than the built in task manager. That's useful for when some apps freeze or get started in the background but aren't showing in task manager.
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Fyi: loose advance task killer. There is no need for it on newer android devices and causes more problems
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I'm surprised there aren't many more advocates of Watchdog on here. It's a very efficient monitor of app activity, much smarter, and gives you much better options to decide whether you really need to kill an app process or not (rarely should you need to). The widget on my home screen has become essential for me.
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I'm surprised there aren't many more advocates of Watchdog on here. It's a very efficient monitor of app activity, much smarter, and gives you much better options to decide whether you really need to kill an app process or not (rarely should you need to). The widget on my home screen has become essential for me.
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I use watchdog and os monitor. Between those to I have a much better experience work my phone.
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