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Hi all - has anyone ever seen a small, distinct black spot in photos and videos coming from the main, rear camera? Pictures attached at various zoom levels - it becomes much more obvious at higher zoom levels, and it doesn't move from the spot it's in. The lens is perfectly clean and appears completely unmarked. This leads me to believe it's either sensor dust, or dust on the back side/ inside the lens. The spot wasn't there when I first got the camera.
Anyway, I'm planning on sending to Samsung to have them fix it under warranty, unless someone's got a better resolution.
Thanks!
Attached photos at 4x, 3x and 1x magnification, with the spot (bottom left) appearing most obvious at 4X.
Definitely looks like crud under your lens. Yeah get that fixed for sure. keep this updated I really would like to know what the hell that is and how it got there.
Either that, or there is damage or defect to the sensor itself. I'd take a good magnifying lens, and inspect it to try to see what's going on in there. Either way, I'd try for a warranty claim.
It looks like a physical object on top of the cmos sensor itself.
The dimensions are about 0.01 x 0.02 mm (about 1/10th of the human hair width).
Looks like it might need replaced, take it in to a service store if you can, we generally keep a good amount of harvested cameras on hand. It's an easy fix...
If for any reason they don't have any or you don't have any S&R stores nearby, and if you're feeling adventurous enough, we might be able to work something out getting you a camera...
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Thanks all. Samsung's got it, and I believe they're replacing it under warranty. I'll update when I know more.
Just got it back after an unnecessarily protracted time at Samsung in Texas. Looks like they swapped out the camera module. No word on what the exact problem was, but it was repaired under warranty. Also looks like they may have fixed two minor issues I had with the earpiece and speakerphone, though I can't be sure.
Thanks for the advice, all.
I was sliding my Glide open yesterday, and I noticed it didn't seem to slide just right. Upon a closer examination, I can see something that has come detached from the slider, possibly a clip of sorts, about 3/8 inch towards the earpiece from the volume up key. The reason it doesn't slide correctly is that that piece is catching/rubbing on the outer black edge of the keyboard. The case is also slightly bowed outward above the piece. I called AT&T and they gave me a run around on it, but the most common answer seems to be "you dropped it, we won't fix it" (no, I didn't drop it or put it through any kind of added stress). My last resort is going to probably be a replacement from AmEx (don't leave home without it!), but I would like to know if this is actually major damage. If AT&T won't fix my phone, is this something that I could maybe fix myself? Has anyone else had this problem?
(P.S. - I'm not sure if my description made sense, so I can post some pictures of it too)
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Go to the ATT store, be a pain in the ass if you need to be. But they will eventually give in and fix/replace it for you. If theres damage to your phone when you obviously didn't drop it, they'll fix it. The phone people you call are just pawns anyways. You probably talked to someone reading off a sheet in a country you can't even say properly. Going to the store should yield much better results. Good luck!
I'll go talk to the fine people (funny joke isn't it?) at the AT&T store. There is absolutely no exterior damage to the phone, only that. If the store says no, is there another step? Also, has anyone had an experience with AmEx and AT&T on replacing a phone?
EDIT: Got back from the AT&T store. The guy I spoke to (he had a nicer shirt on - manager perhaps?) looked at it, compared it to the demo (it was the same store I purchased from), and did notice that something was wrong. He said there was no exterior physical damage, which means that it wasn't dropped. He sent me to the local AT&T Device Service Center, and he said that they would have the final say, but he had good hopes for it. On another related note, would anyone be able to tell me the extent of the damage (and the ease of repair) if I posted pictures?
I know this is outside of the usual Q/A the forum presents, but I'm hoping you guys have some answers?
Recently, my phone suffered some water damage when a bottle leaked in my bag, and it failed to boot for 18 hours, but works successfully now (after putting the battery and phone in rice).
However, now, my front-facing camera has a sort of "white frost", or a white covering on it. It means photos are now of a bad quality, and it's basically unusable.
Image showing this: http://i.imgur.com/NnaLpfB.jpg
Any ideas on how to fix it? Would I have to remove the back cover, and manually remove the front-facing camera like on the S4? I'd rather not do that, but if needed.
(This is also the International LTE GT-19195 version of the phone)
EDIT: If you encounter this problem, wait at least a week, it could go away naturally!
arrivance said:
I know this is outside of the usual Q/A the forum presents, but I'm hoping you guys have some answers?
Recently, my phone suffered some water damage when a bottle leaked in my bag, and it failed to boot for 18 hours, but works successfully now (after putting the battery and phone in rice).
However, now, my front-facing camera has a sort of "white frost", or a white covering on it. It means photos are now of a bad quality, and it's basically unusable.
Image showing this: http://i.imgur.com/NnaLpfB.jpg
Any ideas on how to fix it? Would I have to remove the back cover, and manually remove the front-facing camera like on the S4? I'd rather not do that, but if needed.
(This is also the International LTE GT-19195 version of the phone)
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Must be the calcium etc that was dissolved in the water that is left when it evaporated, I can't think of any other way of getting rid of it other than taking the phone apart, I'm sorry to say. Though I've not taken the S4 apart it shouldn't be too hard as camera should be quite accessible. Though the sub assembly is a sealed unit (quite likely) that may be a whole different story .......
PS. Could it be related to this?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...6-plastic-covering-galaxy-s4-camera-lens.html
IronRoo said:
Must be the calcium etc that was dissolved in the water that is left when it evaporated, I can't think of any other way of getting rid of it other than taking the phone apart, I'm sorry to say. Though I've not taken the S4 apart it shouldn't be too hard as camera should be quite accessible. Though the sub assembly is a sealed unit (quite likely) that may be a whole different story .......
PS. Could it be related to this?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...6-plastic-covering-galaxy-s4-camera-lens.html
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Thanks for replying, but no worries! After about 3 days it started going away naturally. I was going to delete/redact this post, but I felt it'd just look weird.
arrivance said:
Thanks for replying, but no worries! After about 3 days it started going away naturally. I was going to delete/redact this post, but I felt it'd just look weird.
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No worries. Must just have been condensation then I guess.
When I'm trying to take a pic in the dark, I noticed that the viewfinder and post picture has smudges/spots on them. It seems to only be on the main camera and in really dark scenarios. Can anyone confirm they have this as well?
@26donny There have been similar reports on Android-hilfe.de
look here: https://www.android-hilfe.de/forum/...le-pixel-6-pro-flecken-auf-kamera.989463.html
If you don't speak German you can use a web translator but in any case you will find that some users there have posted pictures very simiar to yours. The problem should also be visible when taking a completely dark photo...
Here is a collection of example pictures that other users have posted in regard to this problem. As you can see, it's a serious issue. I'd encourage everybody who bought a Pixel 6 to check if they have the same problem and write to Google support if so. They sooner they learn there is something wrong with some lenses the sooner they can do something about it.
Hmmmm, I don't seem to have that but maybe it needs to be darker?
You just need to move the phone slowly over a fairly dark uniform image, the marks will then become clear because they will show up as static parts of the image. This is very similar to the dirty screen effect on OLED and LCD screens. It looks like contamination on the sensor itself, either it hasn't been washed properly or a coating hasn't covered correctly when it was manufactured. Definately a hardware issue, if effected get the phone sent back, it can't be fixed by software.
I've checked mine and no sign of a problem, thankfully.
Batfink33 said:
Hmmmm, I don't seem to have that but maybe it needs to be darker?
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I'm quite certain not every phone out there is actually affected by this. Maybe yours thankfully just is fine. But everybody should definitely check theirs. Also since I don't have one myself yet I'm not sure whether the problem only occurs when shooting in night mode or not.
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I'm quite certain not every phone out there is actually affected by this. Maybe yours thankfully just is fine. But everybody should definitely check theirs. Also since I don't have one myself yet I'm not sure whether the problem only occurs when shooting in night mode or not.
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I'll try again later when it's dark. Looks like a hardware problem.
I've got the issue. Any further info on this in English? I translated the website looks like no info from Google yet
I purchase my Pxl 6 Pro and the camara is showing just a black screen (
Has anyone had any further contact with google about this? They were supposed to contact me by friday after closing out my original ticket without ever actually talking to me... Here's a video of what it looks like through my view finder.
I just read an article about how Google doesn't recognize this as a hardware problem. I'm sorry for you guys here.
If it really is a hardware issue, we need to make more waves and get more attention so Google starts to act.
By the way, did you guys clean your camera lens properly? Did you try to look into it with a flashlight, to see if there is some dirt in there? And did you try a factory reset to see if it's not just a software issue? Or try it out in safemode?
chalan30 said:
Has anyone had any further contact with google about this? They were supposed to contact me by friday after closing out my original ticket without ever actually talking to me... Here's a video of what it looks like through my view finder.
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Oh boy, that looks terrible.
It's not on the camera lens, if it was you would see the pattern move as OIS moved the lens and most likely it would be out of focus and hardly visible if at all.
The problem is on the sensor, it's either happened in the assembly process of the phone and some solvent has ended up on the sensor then evaporated leaving a dirty mark, or the sensor was already marked when put into the camera module.
It isn't software causing that.
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It's not on the camera lens, if it was you would see the pattern move as OIS moved the lens and most likely it would be out of focus and hardly visible if at all.
The problem is on the sensor, it's either happened in the assembly process of the phone and some solvent has ended up on the sensor then evaporated leaving a dirty mark, or the sensor was already marked when put into the camera module.
It isn't software causing that.
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That makes sense, but you still never know with Google and their glitchy software, so a factory reset/safemode try might still be worth, well, the try.
A hardware issue like the one you describe wouldn't surprise me, as already discussed in other threads, we know because of the leaked Assembly video, that a human assembles the P6 Pro almost entirely alone by, well, hand. Which means there are lots and lots of rooms for error, it might even be just a protective film over a sensor that the human responsible forgot to remove.
As reference, a copy of the video that has not yet been taken down by Google
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As you can see in 01:51, there are several protective films (2 layers, one on the backside of the chassie, one on the lens module part) that need to be manually removed by hand, without a tool. Even if the human removed them correctly, he might have smudged the lenses accidentally by having a contaminated glove.
Besides that, as you mentioned, it might also be a defective module from the beginning, because the sensor itself was contaminated in the assembly process. Even though that would greatly surprise me, since it's a Samsung sensor and we haven't heard about this problem with other phones that use the Samsung GN1 - and since Google doesn't use a custom one, but will get the finished lens module from Samsung and then just pack it on top of the pre-assembled 3-lens camera module... that would be odd.
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That makes sense, but you still never know with Google and their glitchy software, so a factory reset/safemode try might still be worth, well, the try.
A hardware issue like the one you describe wouldn't surprise me, as already discussed in other threads, we know because of the leaked Assembly video, that a human assembles the P6 Pro almost entirely alone by, well, hand. Which means there are lots and lots of rooms for error, it might even be just a protective film over a sensor that the human responsible forgot to remove.
As reference, a copy of the video that has not yet been taken down by Google
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As you can see in 01:51, there are several protective films (2 layers, one on the backside of the chassie, one on the lens module part) that need to be manually removed by hand, without a tool. Even if the human removed them correctly, he might have smudged the lenses accidentally by having a contaminated glove.
Besides that, as you mentioned, it might also be a defective module from the beginning, because the sensor itself was contaminated in the assembly process. Even though that would greatly surprise me, since it's a Samsung sensor and we haven't heard about this problem with other phones that use the Samsung GN1 - and since Google doesn't use a custom one, but will get the finished lens module from Samsung and then just pack it on top of the pre-assembled 3-lens camera module... that would be odd.
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thanks for that video. I have done 4 factory resets (no safe mode though) and the problem persists. The person who pointed me to this thread said google support told them to wait for the december update and if it was still there to contact support again.
chalan30 said:
thanks for that video. I have done 4 factory resets (no safe mode though) and the problem persists. The person who pointed me to this thread said google support told them to wait for the december update and if it was still there to contact support again.
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If you are still in the return window, DO NOT wait. Demand a replacement device. Never wait when you are in the return window. AS LONG as you are in the return window, you have power and Google wants to make you happy. After that, you will live in the shadow of their grace, which can be awful.
Other than that: If you tried 4 factory resets, safe mode will most likely not help in any way. Factory reset is always "stronger" than a safemode, since it rans a completely empty device (at least if you tried the camera app without having set up your backup, which would just create your old software problem, lel).
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If you are still in the return window, DO NOT wait. Demand a replacement device. Never wait when you are in the return window. AS LONG as you are in the return window, you have power and Google wants to make you happy. After that, you will live in the shadow of their grace, which can be awful.
Other than that: If you tried 4 factory resets, safe mode will most likely not help in any way. Factory reset is always "stronger" than a safemode, since it rans a completely empty device (at least if you tried the camera app without having set up your backup, which would just create your old software problem, lel).
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They just said I could send it to their repair team or take it to a place locally. Im going to send it back to them and see what happens. FML oh well
chalan30 said:
They just said I could send it to their repair team or take it to a place locally. Im going to send it back to them and see what happens. FML oh well
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Did you buy it directly from Google?
A repaired device is usually a ****ty device. It will no longer have any decent seal and therefore your dust and water resistance is out the window. The assembly process is being done in a sterile environment, the repair process not so much. Which means that it has a lot of potential faults.
Especially this early on when Google didn't even have the chance to repair anything, it should be relatively easy to get a replacement.
Morgrain said:
Did you buy it directly from Google?
A repaired device is usually a ****ty device. It will no longer have any decent seal and therefore your dust and water resistance is out the window. The assembly process is being done in a sterile environment, the repair process not so much. Which means that it has a lot of potential faults.
Especially this early on when Google didn't even have the chance to repair anything, it should be relatively easy to get a replacement.
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Yeah you are right. And yes I bought it from the google store. I am going to get in touch with them again and let them know that I need a replacement.
I suspect this issue is more widespread than it looks.
I initially thought I didn't have it, but it have it too. Not that marked, but i have it.
To replicate the test better:
- turn screen brightness at max.
- go into a very dark room, close to pitch black.
- open camera, point it to a homogeneous textured wall.
- move the camera around and notice if there is a stain that stays in a fixed position on the camera.
If you have the stains, contact google and let them know.
Attached a photo that makes you see where mine is.
My Pixel 6 Pro came with a weird dark blemish on top of screen when I first got it. I lived with it but recently the phone has developed 2 perfectly round clumps of dead pixels with a faint light line going across the screen
Phone has never been dropped or in water.
So uBreakiFix said they can fix this under warranty but they either have to wipe my device or run Google diagnostics.
I do not want my phone wiped. I don't care about the Google "test" they have to run but will that work on a rooted device running stock Android? It should right?
Just trying to make sure I know what I'm getting into here
You should be good. But I'd raise the possibility that the fingerprint sensor will require pain in the @SS recalibration. I say pita cuz many peeps have issues trying to even d/l the tool but that's been awhile, dunno if it's still a hassle or not. Ask them if google includes a new FPS sensor with the new screen or not. I've read that they are sold/installed as a single unit. Either way, I'd tell 'em to make damn sure the FPS for sure works b4 giving it back. For all I know this may no longer be an issue, not sure. Sent P6a in and it came back with a new screen and a completely unreachable FPS! Thing is...it went in for a completely unrelated issue! My screen & fps were just fine. A few 'words' x2 were said and I got a brand new replacement. But, that was google, not ifixit. Just ask/mention the the fpr. I'm sure they've done tons of 'em.
May be they should rename it to "uBreakiFixKinda". I had my Pixel 6 Pro screen replaced and they didn't seal the screen properly and just simple splash of water ruined the camera and Bluetooth radio. I had my Pixel 6 Pro taken in the swimming pool before the screen replacement and I didn't encounter this issue. Anyway, I went back to the store and asked then if they applied the water resistance sealing and their reply was yes. And when I showed them the issue, they said it's not their fault
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May be they should rename it to "uBreakiFixKinda". I had my Pixel 6 Pro screen replaced and they didn't seal the screen properly and just simple splash of water ruined the camera and Bluetooth radio. I had my Pixel 6 Pro taken in the swimming pool before the screen replacement and I didn't encounter this issue. Anyway, I went back to the store and asked then if they applied the water resistance sealing and their reply was yes. And when I showed them the issue, they said it's not their fault
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Well that's kinda scary. Were there any visual cues or everything looked and felt right after the repair?
Hand76 said:
Well that's kinda scary. Were there any visual cues or everything looked and felt right after the repair?
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My wife's Pixel 5a randomly stopped working about a month ago; we used UbreakIfix for the warranty repair. I'd say it was perfect.
Hand76 said:
Well that's kinda scary. Were there any visual cues or everything looked and felt right after the repair?
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Everything looked and felt quite right to me until this water thingy happened.
I had a bad experience and ended up needing to send the phone in for replacement. I specifically wanted to keep my device and avoid this, but I should have just done this in the first place. I will never go to a shop individually again.
So I just had my display replaced and I wanted to update with my expierice and some advice that may help.
I'm on Long Island, we have uBreakIFix shops in almost every town. I called several locations to ask the same questions till I landed on someone who was not only very friendly but very knowledgable. His buisness card actually says Google Representative on it.
So first advice, actually only adivce lol (((Ask if they have or know a store that has a Google Representative)))
I went in to see him. He quickly told me the black circles on my screen were not dead pixels but blemishes, a form of "leaking" from the oled display and that its either a manufaturing defect or damage from falls. He never questioned me. No factory reset needed. One hour later he came back out from the back, appologized for the delay, and gave me my phone back looking brand new.
He even confirmed before his work that he uses the special adhesive supplied to keep the phone waterproof. Something that probably wasn't done for the user above (krips2003)
So I dont want to jinx it...But as of now I have a perfect screen again.
Overall expierience 10/10 (For Now)
Anyone in NY or on Long Island PM me and I will give you his info. He is also a Pixel 7 Pro user so he really knows and uses our phones
Hand76 said:
So I just had my display replaced and I wanted to update with my expierice and some advice that may help.
I'm on Long Island, we have uBreakIFix shops in almost every town. I called several locations to ask the same questions till I landed on someone who was not only very friendly but very knowledgable. His buisness card actually says Google Representative on it.
So first advice, actually only adivce lol (((Ask if they have or know a store that has a Google Representative)))
I went in to see him. He quickly told me the black circles on my screen were not dead pixels but blemishes, a form of "leaking" from the oled display and that its either a manufaturing defect or damage from falls. He never questioned me. No factory reset needed. One hour later he came back out from the back, appologized for the delay, and gave me my phone back looking brand new.
He even confirmed before his work that he uses the special adhesive supplied to keep the phone waterproof. Something that probably wasn't done for the user above (krips2003)
So I dont want to jinx it...But as of now I have a perfect screen again.
Overall expierience 10/10 (For Now)
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Yeah, it could be the case with the uBreakiFix store in my place in Louisville, KY. I think sometimes these sort of things happen for good/bad. But for me it turned out good. Since I needed a phone back then that could handle to splash better, I bought the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra. This was my first Samsung device after Galaxy 7 Edge. Initially, I was missing some of the P6P exclusive features, but then I discovered some other goodies on this phone and now I'm hooked. And with the Android 13 with One UI 5, it's on a different level.
So I used to work for one. They should be using factory screens and seal when fixing the phones along with samsungs. I would say to not expect it for iPhones unless they are warranty repairs where your warranty provider sends you to one.
Usually though the repairs should be done well and most are tested as well as they can. There is a water proof testing for samsung but unless google implemented the same test to test its case pressure I am not sure it can be tested.
I also suppose the amount of damage to your screen will also help determine how well sealed the new screen is as well.