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Greetings,
Am rooted, unREVOked, Clockwork recovery, s_off, froyo ROM and 2.XX radio and all of that working well. A couple of days ago my internal speaker blew, not sure why but is is all a buzz now and a replacement will be here in the morning. I am all clear and set with putting the old unit back to stock, but with a NANDROID backup, Titanium backup, and contacts backups all ready, can I just run unREVOked on the new one and do a NANDROID restore and all will be back, radio, s_off, and all ???? Or perhaps a good step by step so I do not break the new one ??? Thanks ;-)
no. you still have to run unrevoked, soff, and the 2.15 radio...after that, you can do anandroid restore
All done Grazi ;-)
I thought so,,,,all done flawlessly ;-)
Please report back
Sorry about your speaker ... I had to return 1 incredible over speaker issues myself.
I note that you ran S-OFF. I have avoided doing so for the exact reason that you are now experiencing ... blown speaker = warranty; S-OFF = no warranty; and one had NOTHING to do with the other.
There is some debate out there as to whether Verizon will figure out you ran S-OFF. Can you please report back and let us know if Verizon denies your warranty?
Thanks!
I would advise against restoring tha nandroid of the first device. There's a good chance that your old phone is going to be repaired and given out as a FRU. As such, both devices would share the same device id.
http://androidforums.com/all-things...05-warning-do-not-share-nandroid-backups.html
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Even if your apps aren't there, and no personal information has been entered on a fresh wipe.
If someone asks for a stock Nandroid backup, kindly tell them to get lost
contagous and I learned the hard way. I sent him a completely tweaked and clean nandroid, with none of my personal info or anything like that. He has been using it and it works great.
Until AppBrain fast web installer is used. See, it IDs your device by the Android_ID, which is unique to every phone, or is supposed to be.
Nandroid backups will record this device ID, and clone it onto another device. Well, when contagous installs an app using the web installer, I get it. Without a prompt or nothing.
While I can do the same thing, and it was fun sending him pron apps and sexy men wallpapers, it has a real potential for a security nitemare. I trust contagous, but let this serve as a warning to everyone. Its also not so simple as installing another ROM and factory reset. So far as I can tell, as long as you stay on the same build OS, you will keep the same ID. The only thing that changed my ID to something else was going back to 2.1.
So friends, don't let friends share nandroids. If you do, play it smart, and delete all but the system and boot images and recalculate the md5.
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Nope
najaboy said:
I would advise against restoring tha nandroid of the first device. There's a good chance that your old phone is going to be repaired and given out as a FRU. As such, both devices would share the same device id.
http://androidforums.com/all-things...05-warning-do-not-share-nandroid-backups.html
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While I do not intend to get into a debate about facts (facts are facts), the above is false.
I am on Incredible # 3. Each time I have nandroid restored on my new device. Each time I did so, I got a ton of FORCE CLOSES from Mobile Defender, which had to be uninstalled and reinstalled. Why? BECAUSE THE DEVICE ID WAS DIFFERENT.
If i log into Mobile Defender now, I see all 3 of my Incredibles all 3 with different device ID. Please understand, that's 3 phones, all of which used the same Nandroid, and all showing DIFFERENT Device IDs.
Ok steering my own thread, is that ok ????
Sort of still on the same tack but to address the above, I hope that the device ID thing being cloned by nandroid is false because I did not even think of it happening and I hope that I do not get whacked because of it. My old one was visually perfect so I hope they just replace the speaker, do a magic factory flash of some sort, which will hopefully S_ON the thing, and send it back out. An interesting thing is that I think some 3rd party company does the refurb because the box has a return label sending it to some other company, so maybe if they are not on the lookout then they will not check, just pass it thru like cattle on to the next customer. I will report back if VZW gives me any grief later on. If they do not honer warranty and charges me full price for the new one then they better send me my old one back and I will find the speaker myself from HTC and do an ESN swap with my old TP2.
On another note, steering my own thread yet again, when I did my restore I lost my pictures because I did not set the camera to store to SD card, but I assumed that they would be contained in the NANDROID backup, but they are not back in the new phone. I have serceral backups I could look thru but does anyone know how or what to use to open an .img file and which one they would be in ???? Thanks ;-)
Hi all, I'm thinking of rooting and possibly installing Cyanogenmod on my Incredible. I just had a few questions before starting, and would really appreciate some help. I'm planning on using unrevoked3.
1. I've seen a few warning messages in some tutorials I've read involving the type of screen on the phone, but I'm short on specifics of the dangers. How can a find out whether I have a AMOLED or SLCD screen, and what are the precautions involved with the rooting/installing Cyanogenmod for each type?
2. When installing Cyangenmod, will my texts, contacts, settings, apps, etc. be wiped? It it right that most of these can be backed up with Titanium Backup or other apps? Will I have to re-purchase any paid apps? Can I just restore backups, or do I need to re-download?
3. If for any reason I'd like to return to the stock HTC ROM, is that possible? How? Is this done with Nandroid backups? Is there a way to reset to defaults?
4. Is there any compelling reason to purchase ROM Manager and Titanium Backup, or will I be fine with the free versions?
5. Is flashing the radio necessary at any point in rooting or installing Cyanogenmod? (I am most unfamiliar with this topic)
More questions may follow. Thanks, and sorry if I'm being a nuisance.
Responses/opinions are below your questions, in blue.
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Hi all, I'm thinking of rooting and possibly installing Cyanogenmod on my Incredible. I just had a few questions before starting, and would really appreciate some help. I'm planning on using unrevoked3.
1. I've seen a few warning messages in some tutorials I've read involving the type of screen on the phone, but I'm short on specifics of the dangers. How can a find out whether I have a AMOLED or SLCD screen, and what are the precautions involved with the rooting/installing Cyanogenmod for each type?
Your device, if purchased recently is most likely SLCD. How to know? Do you still have the box? It should indicate type. Type of 3 or greater is SLCD. There are a few threads here on XDA you can search for to verify screen type from device, but idk how to tell you that.
2. When installing Cyangenmod, will my texts, contacts, settings, apps, etc. be wiped? It it right that most of these can be backed up with Titanium Backup or other apps? Will I have to re-purchase any paid apps? Can I just restore backups, or do I need to re-download?
Foremost, you should wipe all user data/factory reset before you flash CM or any ROM other than what you are currently running. See stock ROM and backup guidance below.
Unless you back up your texts, they will be wiped - there are apps that do several things with them, search for what works for you - such as having them e-mailed, stored, etc. Your contacts, if phone and not google-based will also be wiped. There are threads detailing how to convert phone to google contacts. Paid apps are tied to your gmail account, and will be available for d/l when gmail is reactivated on CM. Don't recommend TB to restore backups, especially not system apps, but to each his own, and ymmv.
3. If for any reason I'd like to return to the stock HTC ROM, is that possible? How? Is this done with Nandroid backups? Is there a way to reset to defaults?
Return to stock HTC ROM is done via RUU. Plenty of RUU threads to be found. Recommend just after rooting to back up your 'stock' setup, then you have the stock ROM, only rooted. The default settings will remain, but with root access. Going through the RUU process to go fully stock will remove root. Conversely, Virtuous ROM is a nearly 100% stock ROM, rooted, with enhancements. A best practice in modding your device is to periodically back up the contents of your SD card to your PC so you will have those contents if/when the SD card fails.
4. Is there any compelling reason to purchase ROM Manager and Titanium Backup, or will I be fine with the free versions?
In order to get the CM nightlys through ROM Manager, you will need ROM Manager Premium. Absent that, TB Premium is well worth the money. Supporting the developers via premium/paid apps keeps them developing for the device.
5. Is flashing the radio necessary at any point in rooting or installing Cyanogenmod? (I am most unfamiliar with this topic)
If your device is new, you probably do not need to flash the radio. Read the several very good radio threads on XDA for granular explanations. Many ROMs specify in the feature list the minimum radio version required. Note that flashing a radio can be risky if done incorrectly. Opinions vary on best version. I've had no issues with any ROM I've flashed with v 2.15.00.07.28. Also take note of the HBOOT version required/recommended in a ROM's feature list.
More questions may follow. Thanks, and sorry if I'm being a nuisance.
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No nuisance worries. ALL of us were asking the same/similar questions at one point; knowledge sharing is the embodiment of the open-source community.
Thanks for the useful information. Another question, hopefully someone can respond to this one quickly. I went ahead and started rooting, and unrevoked has just been sitting there saying Pushing Recovery... (3575808 bytes) for the past 10 minutes, at least. Nothing is happening to my phone, it's acting normal. Is the process supposed to be so slow? I've installed the proper drivers.
That is normal.
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Wow, that was quicker than I expected. Thanks a bunch!
are you rooted?
Nope. Still "Pushing Revovery". Hopefully this is still normal...if not could someone let me know what to do?
Just want to say it's better not to pay for ROM Manager in my opinion. I do have the premium license and it is handy for CM7 nightly downloads, but I don't even use if for that purpose any more. Other than that it doesn't offer any advantages, as it still requires you to perform certain functions manually.
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Just want to say it's better not to pay for ROM Manager in my opinion. I do have the premium license and it is handy for CM7 nightly downloads, but I don't even use if for that purpose any more. Other than that it doesn't offer any advantages, as it still requires you to perform certain functions manually.
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^^^^^^ +1 on that - there used to be more stuff in the premium section, now it's just CM. So if you want CM nightlys, go for it, else stick to the free version.
Duly noted, thanks. BTW, that root yesterday went nowhere. I closed up unrevoked and unplugged my phone, it seems fine. I'm gonna try again when I get some time, but does anyone know what might have happened? It never got past that pushing recovery stage.
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so i just rooted my phone...im a noob and i was just asking which cyanogenmod should i install? the stable 6 or the 7 rc?
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so i just rooted my phone...im a noob and i was just asking which cyanogenmod should i install? the stable 6 or the 7 rc?
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Depends of if you want leading/bleeding edge stuff - CM7 release candidate, or a stable version.
As a first ROM other than stock, you gotta choose whether you want solid/smooth and issue-free, or participate in the things that come with a release candidate.
My opinion - gingerbread is not all that compared to what we have now - but that's just my opinion.
I have another question. Which Rom has the most stable and mostly stock HTC sense 2.0 found in the desire z or desire hd/inspire 4g? I really am liking sense and I tried out the cm7 rc, it was good but I had some problems like when I install an app for the first time, it force closes unless I uninstall and install again. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, let me know. I'm willing to try out other Roms but I wanna be safe and not do much.
Try IncRom - stable, fast, insane battery life. For a more tricked out Sense Rom, try Incredibly Reengineered.
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I have another question. Which Rom has the most stable and mostly stock HTC sense 2.0 found in the desire z or desire hd/inspire 4g?
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Sky Raider 3.5 is an excellent Sense ROM as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764787
Warm Z is a good choice as well.
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I have another question. Which Rom has the most stable and mostly stock HTC sense 2.0 found in the desire z or desire hd/inspire 4g? I really am liking sense and I tried out the cm7 rc, it was good but I had some problems like when I install an app for the first time, it force closes unless I uninstall and install again. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, let me know. I'm willing to try out other Roms but I wanna be safe and not do much.
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Okay, I need help. Every time I try to run unrevoked it's either communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted or failed to push recovery image. I installed the HBOOT drivers and I'm 99.9% positive I never installed HTC sync. Any ideas?
Are you connected to PC with the original USB cable? Some aftermarket cables don't work well communicating w/ PC, and are said to only charge but not transmit data.
Is there a one-click UnrEVOked out now? Think I saw that somewhere....
Other guides:
http://jonsuh.com/2010/11/root-your-droid-incredible-how-to/
http://dougpiston.com/?p=29
Edit: SD card has ample room, and is formatted FAT32, yes?
Yeah, I'm using the original, with charge only and USB debugging. I should mention that these errors happen the instant I plug my phone in. However, I do notice that "CD Drive (E Verizon Mobile" and two inaccessible F and G (which would normally be the internal storage and the SD card when set to disk drive) drives appear under my computer when I plug the phone in on charge only. Could this have anything to do with it?
The only versions of unrevoked I know of are unrevoked3, which roots and flashes Clockworkmod recovery as soon as you plug in your phone with the program open. There's also unrevoked forever which sets your security to S-OFF, but I'm pretty sure that's not what I'm looking for.
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Yeah, I'm using the original, with charge only and USB debugging. I should mention that these errors happen the instant I plug my phone in. However, I do notice that "CD Drive (E Verizon Mobile" and two inaccessible F and G (which would normally be the internal storage and the SD card when set to disk drive) drives appear under my computer when I plug the phone in on charge only. Could this have anything to do with it?
The only versions of unrevoked I know of are unrevoked3, which roots and flashes Clockworkmod recovery as soon as you plug in your phone with the program open. There's also unrevoked forever which sets your security to S-OFF, but I'm pretty sure that's not what I'm looking for.
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Stock unrooted ROM, getting errors on USB plugin? That may be something else.
For context, the version of unrevoked that's out does S-OFF automatically, users get no choice in that. Make sure you follow the steps in the guide(s) -
It sounds like you may have a toggle yet to click on the device so it's not giving you wonky errors on plugin - the guide(s) will tell you what needs doing.
Edit: There shouldn't be any popup prompts for Verizon Mobile when you plug the device into the USB when connected to PC.
Also, the elements of unrevoked must be unzipped, and they don't execute until you click on them - after device is successfully connected to PC.
The step-by-step guides should fix you up.
Hello XDA-Community,
I am in a little bit of trouble with my HTC Desire and I was unable to find any documentation on here on via google to help me out so I am hoping anyone of you guys can give me a hand. Any input is very much appreciated, thank you beforehand!
So, the situation is as follows:
I have a branded T-Mobile HTC Desire (not a T-Mobile customer, though) with Froyo 2.2 stock running, I am a regular user and haven't messed with the software previously apart from installing apps as usual. Until today, where the mess started..
It is one of the old Desires with AMOLED, I think HBOOT version 0.93 or something?
I just want to say I am not bad with computers but I've only started to wrap my head around anything android-tech related as in rooting, flashing, etc. , which is why I'm here.
Now today I decided I want to go and first off, root my device so I can have a titanium backup and possibly tomorrow or sometime soon flash the oxygen rom because I hear I can have increased batterylife with that, which is my main concern (and app2sd for everything) with the HTC Desire.
So I read through lots of guides and arrived at using unrevoked³ to root the phone which worked fine. I then went and bought Titanium Backup Pro so I could make a backup of the entire thing and start flashing sooner or later.
Now I guess I made the first mistake right at that point when I did not make a backup immediately but first used TB to delete some T-Mobile bloatware which I dont use, I used the Filter option and then Remove Bloatware in the Settings to tag the apps in question ("TopApps" and "MobileTV", they are silly and just for customers anyway). TB said I have to restart the phone to remove them, which I did. I wanted to remove them before I did the backup because it was already complaining about low space after I put TB on (you know the desire and its space limitations..). And what good are useless apps in a backup, anyway?
Now, when it rebooted, at first everything looked fine, it starts up normally and goes on with loading all the stuff, I have a few widgets, GoLauncherEx, etc. which takes a bit to load at first start. But having loaded for about 1 minute after pressing the button, and when I can already see some of the UI elements properly in place (I can actually enter SIMcode and everything, or just wait at the code-login-form) - the phone just soft-resets itself and starts booting again. and again. and again. always up to the same point, I reckon.
I have tried getting the SDK and look into adb logcat while it boots (where I am an absolute noob, admittedly), and I was going to paste the entire thing here but my windows 7 "cmd" only has the last 300 lines of output selectable and I can't figure out how to "save" the rest of the log flying by when booting. It shows a lot of k9-mail errors in the log but I am not sure of that is the problem because I havent messed with k9 for months (using it as push mail client).
I am now unsure if the problem is because of TB or because of the removed bloatware, or what is going on. Right now, the phone is unusable.
I wonder if anyone can help me get the phone going again or how I could access the phone data to retrieve the phone's calendar entries and SMS, and possibly as much of the settings/data so I can just go and flash oxygen on it. I would, however, love to have a complete backup of the stock thing running, with TB and NANDroid backup, so I require a running phone I guess. I have previously synced the phonebook entries to MyPhoneExplorer on my desktop but it apparently didnt catch anything else.
I have attached the logcat output that I could capture in the txt file, if it helps with anything.
Thanks anyone for help really! Much appreciated!
Teaches you not to mess around without backing up first. You can get quite a bit of stuff to sync to your Google account like contacts and calendar entries. It also backs up other bits of data too.
From now on, it looks like you can only flash another rom or use an ruu, either way your data is gone like SMS and all that good stuff.
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Honestly, you probably won't be able to get your data if it doesn't even get passed the first lock screen cause you may have deleted something compulsory for it to boot.
Just flash a new rom or the stock rom if you want then after you've set it all up run a titanium backup batch to save everything. Then and ONLY then should you consider installing Oxygen because Oxygen will require a number of modifications to your desire.
thanks for reading through all of it, I didnt realize the post grew so long when I posted it last night.
I know it is a prime example for the backup sense, Meape.. :/
Aegishua, It does get past the first lock screen. if I enter the SIM Code (or just leave the SIM Out), I can actually interact with the phone for several seconds, it loads widgetlocker and requests the unlock pattern, but there's not enough time to actually do anything when I see the the home screen.
I was wondering if there is a possibility to, say freeze the bootup sequence via USB adb commands or something, like you would press Pause on a desktop PC during the POST screen (yeah I know, the comparison is a little off). So at that point I could at least have time to fetch stuff from the phone to the PC.
and I noticed, if it helps anything: when the backlight is off (display dimmed), shortly before the reset the backlight flashes a couple of times which it doesnt usually do at that point of booting.
oh, and a little question for the next probable step: aegishua, what do you mean only then? I was following this guide http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/gen...esire-wildfire-evo-incredible-with-unrevoked/ , and would I not just get the oxygen ROM and follow Pt.3 From Step 2 onwards? Since I cannot do Step 1 anymore (full TB). I.e. just put the rom on SDcard and wipe + flash? btw, the original Oxygen thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971904 ) does not say what Radio I need to flash (do I ?)- anyone care to point me in the right direction? Thanks again, I know I'm a noob at this.
Thanks a lot for any input guys
I will not be able to look at this thread for the next few hours but here's a quick update, I now started the phone without sdcard or SIM and it actually works! I mean, lots of apps are missing and icons and stuff, but the phone stays on regardless. I'm gonna go figure out whats wrong with the sdcard content, but first: backup time
Hello,
I got my Desire HD a few weeks ago, it was locked on Three UK and I rooted and sim unlocked it to use it in Italy where I live.
I was playing with the application manager and noticed that there are a few apps that are installed on the phone (some Three UK apps, Bejeweled and so on) that are not showing at all in the apps list. They are in the installed applications of the application manager, but I can't do anything with them as all the controls for these apps are gray (not selectable). Anyone has any idea about what is happening?
I was also thinking to flash a stock ROM to get rid of all that unusable stuff and speed up the phone a bit (the Three splash screen makes boot crazy long), but I want to be sure I can go back to this ROM, if needed. I have a backup made with ClockworkMod, is it all I need or should I save something else first?
What stock ROM would be better for me to flash?
I am currently with OS build 1.37.771.3 and Radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Thanks in advance for the help!
No advice at all?
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My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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Okay, I think I explained myself the wrong way
I didn't want somebody to tell me what ROM is better as I know it really depends on personal preferences, that's the reason why there are so many different ones, right? What I meant is: what is the latest stock ROM that allows me to root the phone using Visionary+? Do I have to worry about OTA updates or can I just download and apply them?
For now I just want to have a "clean" phone, custom roms and further playing will come in the future
And, the second part of the question is if a system backup done using ClockworkMod is sufficient to get back to what I have now, if ever needed, or I do need to backup something else first.
Thanks!
I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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Would I need to somehow backup Radio too? Or CWM backup saves it as well?
First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way. This is when I found out that my old Blackberry and even iPhone had much more complete backup solutions that non-rooted Android. I have totally recovered the other devices without losing anything in the past so I thought Android would be a snap as well.
Any way to the point now. After searching I have found great work done by the members and I feel pretty comfortable proceeding to root my stock ICS and getting Titanium to do a full backup. I will fix my keyboard and few other things while at it.
My questions are:
1. When the next official release comes from ATT / Samsung will I have to reflash to the stock boot.img (found in another thread) to be able to get the upgrade and then root my phone again?
2. Once rooted, is it better to just come back here and get the updated ROM and flash manually?
3. Is the best way to achieve the complete backup solution I am looking for?
I am pretty happy with the stock ROMs but I want to be able to get a good and full backup going forward since it takes so long to reinstall everything. I could even live with the bloatware if I was confident I could completely restore at anytime.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Roy
Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
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Shawn said:
Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
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Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.
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Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.
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A nandroid backup is more like an image backup of the flash, so you would have to restore the whole thing to get back any files you may have lost. It's mostly for backing up prior to flashing a new ROM, so if you don't like it you can go back to what you had easily.
If you want to back up pictures and things like that you should be able to plug the phone into a computer and mount the flash as a drive (I've done this on my Linux and Windows systems many times). Then you can copy the files you want to save to your computer, or copy a new ROM to the phone so you can flash it with CWMR.
You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
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You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
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mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.
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mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.
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You will need to root again once you update. Replacing stock recovery with CWMR will not make you lose any data.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
VideoRoy said:
First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way.
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It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times
ZeroHour064 said:
It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times
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I am with you all the way.
I have installed CWMR now and completed a nandroid backup. After tracking down the backup I copied to my laptop for safe keeping. Also installed the keyboard fix only and it worked fine. Later tonight I will give root a try with Titanium.
BTW I was having SMS issues with the stock ICS. No alerts and basic funky things. I have loaded Go SMS Pro and am happier not only fixing the app issues but giving me Group text mode so I am not an outcast with the rest of my iPhone family
Thanks for helping me get going here.
ICS has a bunch of issues, including the bad notifications.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
As others have posted. I back up all my information per app via Titanium backup and every few months I make a new Nandroid backup. This gives me the best of both worlds. A full backup that I can get back to via Nandroid backup and little backups from Titanium backup if I choose to uninstall and re-install an individual app later on in the future.
Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001
ZeroHour064 said:
Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001
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Great information thanks!!
The backups I am most worried about are all the system settings, app settings and data mostly. I am probably older than most folks here and I do not really text much except family and a few co-workers. I honestly never worried about backing up my SMS / MMS but I will check on my APNs because I had that problem on a Blackberry once. Email is where I store most important stuff and talk about paranoid I have multiple copies of my emails on different computers on different operating systems. 20 years working in storage will do that to you
I believe that if Google or Samsung even came up with a backup solution that did what Blackberry or Apple could do it would solve a lot and I probably would not even be working on this. Blackberry saved my bacon more than once with the complete backup they do in their clunky software and last year when my daughters iPhone would no longer power off, I was able to use iTunes to do a complete backup and she was up and running on a new phone in 15 mins exactly where she left off.
Thanks for the advice!