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[Q] Sense Apps for vanilla/cyanogen

is there any way to get sense apps like the Music, camera, and phone onto vanlla phones or on cyanogen

I was hoping there was a way to get the dialer from a sense rom onto any stock rom. I actually may try that out later this week and see if it works (doubtful).

It requires sense framework for the Widgets as I've asked this before, as far as camera mods and what not I've seen that on vanilla roms but I'm sure there are geniuses that dwell on XDA that could figure it out.
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Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.

Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ

Lennyuk said:
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).

Your sig claims you've owned 4 android phones. So you're obviously not a super noob. So my question to you is -
Did searching just not occur to you, or did you honestly believe you were not the 7,548th person to ask this question?

I am not asking about sense widgets because im aware that i need to have the sense framework running but im just wondering about the 2 apps Camera and Music. i know that enmothers rom gives you the option to install the 2 if you want and am just wondering if its possible to do the same for cyanogen.
also i have used the Sense Roms for the G2 but i was never really a fan of non Vanilla android.

the orange bandit said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
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A couple of apps may have been REBUILT to work without sense, but its not an easy job and certainly isn't something a lot of people have done.
the HTC IME keyboard was pretty much an entire rewrite of the code based on what the htc one looked like, its not the apk from sense just moved over.
I can't comment on the camera or music, but I imagine these are the same.

Lennyuk said:
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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There has been a sense app ported to stock. Enom ported the HTC camera to his stock ROM for the Nexus... I remember running it.. That was a great ROM
Sorry, I see this has already been covered... But I know the app wasn't rewritten, it was a straight port, with the stock framework rewritten, so it was a straight app port
JD
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I really like the browser from sense, I use lpp for widgets so I'm good there. I asked about getting some sort of plug in for google translate onto vanilla browser and got nothing but flame. Hopefully gingie brings this to us... I mean is there any other plug ins other then flash? Honest question
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Brother asking me why isntall a Sense ROM over a stock rooted EVO ?

Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
What would you Sense ROM's guys/gals have to add or say to this ?

In my opinion, some roms might have a few tweaks in them but most of the roms that I see now are just themed stock roms.
I don't want to seem like I'm not giving credit to the devs for everything they do, but it seems like many "roms" should just be in the theme section as they are just built off some other devs work.

Zorachus said:
Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
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You are not alone and Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5 is one of my favorites and IS my favorite Sense rom.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
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First of all, understand that his "stock phone" is Sense-based. HTC Sense comes default on the EVO 4G. Anyway, your brother seems to be totally satisfied with what he has and has no plans to switch. If that is the case, let him be. If he wasn't impressed with the classy and elegant look of Myn's rom then I doubt he'll be convinced to change from the stock Sense look....
What would you Sense ROM's guys/gals have to add or say to this ?[/QUOTE]

Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.

cloud007 said:
Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.
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Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.

Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...

surrealmethod said:
Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
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Sure, but what kinda tweaks are we talking about? Thats what Im asking more or less.
CM for instance, to me, feels like a stock AOSP rom with their custom Kernel. They obviously did a good bit more by customizing the kernel n such, but as I said before... I could just flash their kernel + use whatever themes I want, no?
surrealmethod said:
Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.
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My understanding is that battery indicator, boot animations, etc fall into the theme category.

Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
Sense is a launcher. There are launcher replacements such as LauncherPro, ADW, and SPB Shell 3D. LauncherPro and ADW are more a lot faster than HTC is. LauncherPro has widgets for calendar and Friends which is similar to Sense. Beautiful widgets can give you a Sense like clock and weather animations.

sekigah84 said:
Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
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Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
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CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.

dougjamal said:
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them made it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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Good post, I agree

dougjamal said:
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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I also totally agree with this. It should also be noted that along with an upgraded sense, some of these other ROMs give you an update to Gingerbread. Just something else to take into consideration when it comes to reasons for switching ROMs.

cloud007 said:
Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
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CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.[/QUOTE]
In the past yes. I was on a sense based ROM for awhile but constantly switched between that and CM. Finally when CM7 reverse engineered 4G and HDMI, I've been rocking that out like it's going out of style. I just love how speedy and responsive it is. Thought honestly, in my opinion, if you put enough widgets and crap on the home screens like there are in Sense based ROMs the speed will even out. Just from what I've experienced though.

Can I use Lock ring on Sense 2.1 ?

Hello everyone
I am using Ginger 2.3.4 and Sense 2.1 but I want to use Lock ring of Sense 3.0 will there be or not
Please tell me a way for the best. Thank you so much

Download Agile Lock. Easiest way.

Product F(RED) said:
Download Agile Lock. Easiest way.
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Thanks but it's not smooth like Sense 3 and doesn't have 3D on home phone after unlock

Dream232 said:
Thanks but it's not smooth like Sense 3 and doesn't have 3D on home phone after unlock
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The real Sense 3.0 lockscreen requires the 3.0 framework (Sense 3.0), which isn't ported for your phone. So it's pretty much impossible aside from that app.

Ummmmm, download and flash a sense 3.0 ROM... Easy fix.
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Product F(RED) said:
The real Sense 3.0 lockscreen requires the 3.0 framework (Sense 3.0), which isn't ported for your phone. So it's pretty much impossible aside from that app.
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there is sense 3.0 for this phone through custom roms ..and sense 3 patches for 2.1 roms

Dream232 said:
Hello everyone
I am using Ginger 2.3.4 and Sense 2.1 but I want to use Lock ring of Sense 3.0 will there be or not
Please tell me a way for the best. Thank you so much
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check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260128&page=6

I'd take a look at the GingerBangSense ROM with the Sense 3.0 Patch. Been working perfectly since install last week. I am an admitted flashaholic, and it is going to take something pretty cool to make me move away from this ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219471

Any stock ROMs that fix up the stock experience?

I like the current stock ROM that comes with the phone when you buy it Android 2.3.3 HTC Sense on the HTC Incredible 2 as it runs smooth and all. But I was wondering if there was a ROM that is the same as the stock ROM, but without that annoying location icon on the top. And added more stuff into the quick settings, and fixed the alarm clock issue were the phone freezes the clock app by it self.

jakob95 said:
I like the current stock ROM that comes with the phone when you buy it Android 2.3.3 HTC Sense on the HTC Incredible 2 as it runs smooth and all. But I was wondering if there was a ROM that is the same as the stock ROM, but without that annoying location icon on the top. And added more stuff into the quick settings, and fixed the alarm clock issue were the phone freezes the clock app by it self.
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andyBONESTOCK is based off the stock ota that was just released a month ago and he has a mod to get rid of the location icon at the top. Might wanna check it out.
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Skyraider Zeus 1.3 sounds like the rom for you.
Has all of the above requests that you have mentioned.
http://teambamf.net/showthread.php/2725-ROM-GB-SkyRaider-Zeus-1.3-Inc2-UPDATE-11-22-2011

If we are going to start mention a good stock rom,we are not going to finish jajaja.i am using Magnolia 2.0 and is awesome but the best way to know wish one is better is try a different rom and then you deside.

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If we are going to start mention a good stock rom,we are not going to finish jajaja.i am using Magnolia 2.0 and is awesome but the best way to know wish one is better is try a different rom and then you deside.
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Magnolia isn't stock.
Stock? Sabotage is close and a damn good ROM.

I"m assuming he wants to stick with a rom that has a sense 2.1 base such as skyraider or twisted. Magnolia is nice and all, but sense 3.5 isnt everyone's cup of tea, and it can be a bit laggy at times (every 3.5 rom ive tried has had some wierd issue).
As mentioned before, Skyraider Zeus is my fallback for a stock feeling rom. It's got some sense 3.0 features, which would feel like an upgrade to you, but it's still fast, stable and setup on the 2.1 base, where everything works...just better

Just got Zeus, love the ROM except I don't like the notification bar that much, any way to change it to look like stock Sense 2.1? And I think the battery is dying faster with this ROM not sure though...

Try Nitsuj's Gingerbangsense. Great rom, pretty stock and he has a good 3.0 patch to put on top if you want some of those features
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Sense Lockscreen Porting for 4.2

Just a question.
There is a porting of Lockscreen(ring) by Sense for Android Jelly Bean 4.2?
I don't want Agile Lock and similar but a little modify also for rooted phone.
Thank you.

darkvision said:
Just a question.
There is a porting of Lockscreen(ring) by Sense for Android Jelly Bean 4.2?
I don't want Agile Lock and similar but a little modify also for rooted phone.
Thank you.
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It is my understanding that you need the whole Rosie e.i. the Sense framework for the sense lockscreen to work so there is no way (at least not an easy one) for just porting the app because it's system integrated... You're better off with a 3rd party lockscreen like go locker etc. Just to let you know that there is sense 4 + JB in development so keep an eye on the dev thread in about a month

ilans93 said:
It is my understanding that you need the whole Rosie e.i. the Sense framework for the sense lockscreen to work so there is no way (at least not an easy one) for just porting the app because it's system integrated... You're better off with a 3rd party lockscreen like go locker etc. Just to let you know that there is sense 4 + JB in development so keep an eye on the dev thread in about a month
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So, there is not a method for the porting of Rosie "lockscreen".
I don't want go locker, agile lock or similar because they are not perfect. They drain more battery than stock JB locker and occasionally the stock launcher appear without permission.
Good news about sense 4 + JB. It's what I need, because JB is very smooth, light and with poor battery drain, Sense instead is awesome but too expensive about ram.
Thank you for your information, i'll be waiting for news.

darkvision said:
So, there is not a method for the porting of Rosie "lockscreen".
I don't want go locker, agile lock or similar because they are not perfect. They drain more battery than stock JB locker and occasionally the stock launcher appear without permission.
Good news about sense 4 + JB. It's what I need, because JB is very smooth, light and with poor battery drain, Sense instead is awesome but too expensive about ram.
Thank you for your information, i'll be waiting for news.
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No, like I said, there is no way of porting just the lock screen. You need the entire sense framework to make it work because it's tightly system integrated... Well just have to wait for the jb + sense

ilans93 said:
No, like I said, there is no way of porting just the lock screen. You need the entire sense framework to make it work because it's tightly system integrated... Well just have to wait for the jb + sense
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Ok, thank you for your time!