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gone a bit laggy

when I got my desire it was super fast (anything is compared to the hero)
however ive noticed that over time it has become a little laggy when live wallpapers are running
i have very little running in the background as far as I can tell
the screen movements dont seem as smooth
ive still got 50+mb of program memory left
the only things i have running in the background are
weather and toggle widgets
seepu (processor monitor program)
Gmail counter (screen widgets)
messaging counter (screen widgets)
I also have the following installed
advanced task killer
appbrain market sync
appremover
explorer
ezcam
google service
google translate
mixzing
moodpaper
navigon
oi file manager
onoff widget pack
places directory
pkt auction ebay
shop savvy
spotify
skype
trafficintel
traintimes
xda
i have done a hard reset and it still is sometimes laggy ... gets worse when i install programs ... ive tried to work out which is causing the lag but have give up
any idea#s
i regularly flush the cache also
its still faster that my hero however its annyoying that it appears to get slow
perhaps ive got use to the speed and now want faster speeds however thought id ask if anyone else is having problems

I never use live wallpapers, it makes it slow. You also have lag without live wallpaper on? And I think its very easy to get used to the speed.
I hope we get some update soon (or even the 2.2 eventually) and see some nice speed improvements.
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Live wallpapers altogether make my phone laggy. The nexus live wallpaper seems OKAY though. And yeah, 2.2 will hopefully fix the lag.
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I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.

scotch whisky said:
I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.
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+1 Completely agree.
ATK is the most likely cause of the slowdown.

yeah mine lags only when a) I use live wallpaper (which I dont anymore)
and b) when its installing an app after downloading (for a few seconds) other than that its fine.although I do wish for a fix in the new 2.2 or something

i agree live wallpapers slow mine down a bit (although nexus one seems ok)

I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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I use it too and I don't feel as if it slows down.

jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????

lambrospower said:
where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????
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just search for nexus one live wallpaper in the market. it's there.

Arc is slow and laggy

Actually Im really fascinated about the design and the screen of my arc. But hey my Arc is slower than my desire. Few days ago I just received the update. This increased the speed a little bit. But in my opionion for a mobile device with a cpu of over 1ghz its definetly not fast and smooth enough. And I dont have many apps installed. Ihave the feeling the longer I use my Arc the slower it becomes. I think SE already noticed this. Why else should they release and Arc S (Speed). I hope the announced update in october will solve the laggy and speed problem. What do you think? Am I overacting or do you have the same opionion like me?

There is a blurb about frequent system software re-installs on the PC companion support page, I wonder why they would put that up there, yes it is occasionally laggy like X10. Arc is feature rich but sometimes I want speed. It runs fast after a fresh install but it slows down as you install apps. Also widgets slow it down...

Because the 1ghz processors are becoming difficult to get hold of..?
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Where exactly do you see this lag? And how is Arc slower than Desire? I know the default launcher from SE is laggy but I don't think it is that much. Even better when I switch to ADW Launcher EX there is no lag at all.

1. When I am switching between pages on the homescreen. Its very laggy.
2. When I am going back from an application to the homescreen I can really see how the SE-Launcher builds the bottom dock bar up. It needs 1-2 seconds till I can use my phone.
3. Im using the app SwipePad for multitasking. Sometimes I cant switch to the right app cause its to slow and the app menu is not build up properly

Use Launcher Pro or another launcher, problem solved.
One of my mates had a Desire and has a Desire Z now. He said once, wow, that thing is fast when I used my Arc at that time. And now with 2.3.4 it's even faster
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Thanks for the advice. Now. I'm using launcher pro. Faster definitely. But when I'm switching from standby to homescreen I still have a leak. When the homescreen with all the widgets is finally loaded then it's fine. Normal phenomenon?
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Finally I wiped my phone. Reinstalled almost everything. Now its really fast.

ST4YSTR0NG said:
Where exactly do you see this lag? And how is Arc slower than Desire? I know the default launcher from SE is laggy but I don't think it is that much. Even better when I switch to ADW Launcher EX there is no lag at all.
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Tried ADWLauncher EX for a week, it everything went slow. No problems with SE's default launcher, and it's not bad either.

[Q] is the nexus laggy?

Hello all!
I'm currently looking into buying the gsm galaxy nexus (S. Korea) and am torn between it and the Galaxy s3, which hasn't been released here yet. I was just hoping to hear from Nexus owners, is there any choppiness or lag to the Nexus (stock version) at all? (app drawers, moving in homescreens, transitions to menus, etc.)
I saw the video posted by xda demoing the S3 and was impressed by how smooth and seamless all the transitions were! Honestly, I love the Nexus design more than the S3 and don't really like the way touchwiz looks.
I don't mind that the Nexus falls behind in terms of specs, I'd just love to hear that day to day use of the phone is a smooth and frustration-free experience...
Thanks!

Not really, and if there is, you can root and fix it.

No.I take it for daily use（no game）and it just runs like flying.
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Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494685&highlight=laggy

After about 6 months of having this phone I can tell you I've had no lag issues whatsoever with stock. I've used animated wallpapers, multiple browsers, graphic intensive games, hd movies and do not remember the phone staggering at all.
In contrast my transformer prime does lag all the time, which doesnt make sense, since the hardware specs are better. But thats not related to your question.
Anyway, if you have the chance to try it somewhere, do so. It's always better to see it for yourself.

Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.

Well said wiredpirate. I have no lag issues here.

WiredPirate said:
Not if you know what you are doing, people who complain of lag do not.
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Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.

mataee said:
Awesome! good to know, thanks guys.
Wiredpirate, do you think you can tell me what you mean by "knowing what I'm doing?" Does that mean using compatible roms/kernels combinations? Moderate widget use?
Do you have any recommendations on kernels? (I'd like to keep stock rom)
Factors that are important to me are:
-smooth, stutter-free performance
-good battery life
-good phone reception/ 3g signal (don't know if this can be influenced by the kernel)
I DON'T plan on doing any intensive (3D) gaming. Web browsing will be fairly important. Customization is not important whatsoever; I love the completely vanilla ICS. Any recommendations would be amazing...Thanks!
Sorry if I'm not supposed to ask another question mid-thread like this.
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As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.

WiredPirate said:
As far as a kernel I am happy with Franco. Definitely moderate widget use. Don't have to many apps that run in the background, or that stay awake with a background process. Use spare parts to set window animations and transitions to fast. Use a third party Launcher like Nova and set the speeds to fast, or in the case of Nova "faster than light". Don't have too many accounts syncing in accounts & sync. Set other apps not to sync or to rarely sync. Use "full power" setting in kernel. There has to be 10-20 other things I can't think of right now, when in doubt don't change the settings. Somebody else jump in with things you know helps. It's easy for me to change something and be able to tell if it slows down the phone, then I know not to use those settings.
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Im running an AOSP Rom and get easily a full days use with an on screen time of about 3.5 hours and 75% brightness. This phone kills my HTC Vivid on battery and performance. There is NO lag. I highly recommend it
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Live wallpaper jumping

After several updates this bug is still with us..! You would think that a phone with 4 cores and a gpu that can handle complex 3d shading, could handle sense moving from one screen to the next without stopping..?? Now my question is this.. Is it a HTC problem or Nvida problem and who should sort it out?
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I think this is a Sense problem to save GPU / CPU power. There are 3rd party launchers out there that have this option to make the launcher more responsive. I also believe (but not tried) if you install and use a 3rd party launcher this problem is not there. I'm unsure if HTC will fix it and that is meant to be like this by design (just like the multitasking).
BTW there was no real need to start a new topic for this...

chris_lyon82 said:
I think this is a Sense problem to save GPU / CPU power. There are 3rd party launchers out there that have this option to make the launcher more responsive. I also believe (but not tried) if you install and use a 3rd party launcher this problem is not there. I'm unsure if HTC will fix it and that is meant to be like this by design (just like the multitasking).
BTW there was no real need to start a new topic for this...
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100% sense every other launcher doesn't have this, I don't use live wallpapers battery hog.
There is a nice launcher called Regina and it is 100% 3d graphic launcher runs really nice on tegra 3
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chris_lyon82 said:
I think this is a Sense problem to save GPU / CPU power. There are 3rd party launchers out there that have this option to make the launcher more responsive. I also believe (but not tried) if you install and use a 3rd party launcher this problem is not there. I'm unsure if HTC will fix it and that is meant to be like this by design (just like the multitasking).
BTW there was no real need to start a new topic for this...
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Apex Launcher doesnt have this problem. Works fine

whats weird is that live wallpapers were actually pretty smooth on 1.19 firmware (the one my HOX shipped with) in rosie. but yeah just use any other launcher and you wont have issues with live wallpaper.

I still get the same issue with another launcher, when I unlock the screen. The live wallpaper is static like it was closed by the android task scheduler.
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sense launcher freezes the widgets while scrolling, maybe thats related to the bug we have when using live wallpapers

I mailed HTC about this, and after some time they mailed me back saying that the problem was sent to their development in Taiwan for further investigation and to find out if the problem can be solved with an update. I can give you a copy of the mails, but it's in danish
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[TIP] Remove widgets to decrease homescreen redraw

I'm unsure how much "news" this is, but my GS III kept redrawing the homescreen, if I stayed in another app for longer than 30 seconds (even opening Settings!).
After some Google'ing, I saw that widgets may be an issue. I was just using two small ones, the built-in calendar (2x1) and email (4x2): nothing for a 1.4GHz dual-core with 2GB of RAM, right? Well, I removed both of those and now my GS III is as zippy as I got it. Everything is faster: the Apps menu loads faster, no homescreen redraw, everything is way more fluid.
This "tip" might be uber-common knowledge, but coming off an iPhone, I had no idea widgets were so draining. I'm just really happy and I thought I would share my happiness, just in case someone else is trying to diagnose their GS III.
~Ibrahim~

Or just install the v6 supercharger script. It modifies how android handles memory. Also, using nova launcher I almost never have home screen redraws.
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I run about 3 times the widgets you were with no issue, but neither of the ones you did. Perhaps the issue isn't with widgets entirely but one of those widgets malfunctioning. Have you tried other widgets to test your thesis? Did any combination of two regardless of the widget cause redraw? I would test it further if I were you, I'll run those two also and see if I can recreate it.
Additionally, are you running stock Rom? Rooted? Custom Rom/which? Uv or oc?etc...
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theraffman said:
I run about 3 times the widgets you were with no issue, but neither of the ones you did. Perhaps the issue isn't with widgets entirely but one of those widgets malfunctioning. Have you tried other widgets to test your thesis? Did any combination of two regardless of the widget cause redraw? I would test it further if I were you, I'll run those two also and see if I can recreate it.
Additionally, are you running stock Rom? Rooted? Custom Rom/which? Uv or oc?etc...
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Well, the homescreen redraw is a little sporadic. I just know that for the few hours I removed the two widgets, the phone felt faster and I experienced no homescreen redraws (in comparison to the weeks where I had many homescreen redraws and a bit of lagginess). I placed 9 widgets on for about 10 minutes (but did not include the two "bad' ones): no redraws. I then put the two "bad" ones again and I had a homescreen redraw after about 3 minutes of using Boat Browser.
Stock as can be: i747 running UCALG1. No root, no custom ROM, no UV/OC, nothing. Just bought it out the store and took that one OTA update that removed universal search.
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Or just install the v6 supercharger script. It modifies how android handles memory. Also, using nova launcher I almost never have home screen redraws.
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I tried Nova and Apex, too, but I didn't like their style and they didn't seem quite as smooth as TW. But, I did see the V6 Supercharger script as a fix (I think it lowered the OOM priority of the TW launcher?)

And I eat my words!
I needed those two "bad" widgets and the redraws were slowing my mojo. Tried a few launchers apprehensively, but pleasantly surprised. Currently a fan of Nova which-unlike my previous try-is blazing!
You may think stock should be faster because Samsung should know more about their device than an app developer...but my experience is beginning to show that is not true. Already replaced the SMS app because of bugs and now the launcher, too.