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Hey everyone,
I have bought myself a Galaxy S 2 which is brilliant and has taken over from my Desire as my main device, but this has led me to the question, is it worth rooting my Desire and playing with custom roms now I do not have to rely on it as my main device?
It is on Orange, android 2.2, and if I mess it up, I suppose I could just drop it in a pool of water and return it on insurance lol
Reason I ask is because all the rooting threads confuse the crap out of me, but I have always been interested in messing around and seeing just what this phone is capable of or just what could be done to speed it up or have it looking super cool with new user experience.
I suppose the main question is, can you customise the phone to the same level without rooting and custom roms, and is it really that much better when rooted?
Any opinions are very welcome.
Also, it is an SLCD, orange branded but network unlocked using the CD method I found on the forums. Is there anything I need to know about my phone, before I root, if I decide to root.
Anyway, thanks for any and all opinions or help on this.
Biffy.
Root and s-off if you want to be able to to anything.
After that you have to chose the rom ... The most difficult !
I currently use LeeDroiD 3.0.8.2 (GB + sense) in A2SD+ version. Fast, stable and enough features inside for me.
to me installing custom rom is more because of curiousity. I learned quite a lot because of this custom roms thingie, since i was too worried to try it and done a LOT of reading here and there. until now, lol
Thanks for the replies So do you guys think that the custom roms improve the phone? If not improve, is it fun again playing with the phone when you've installed a rom?
I'd love to install something with a new version of sense to see what it's like, as playing with the Desire HD in a shop, it seemed really good.
Anyway cheers for the replies I'm gonna read more about rooting..
Cheers.
I was also worried in the beginning but I read all the tutorials on forum and it is very easy to put custom ROM. Also I'm using 2.1+3.0 sense and it is very nice + ROM is fast and stable
start from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Brilliant Thanks I'll take a look there as that sounds perfect
Biff.
Just done Unrevolked and phone is in ClockworkMod Recovery now, seems it is rooted lol.
I will leave it there and read more see what else I can do or what my next step is...
Ok, i'm getting excited now, as i've rooted and S-Off'd my phone now, and have gparted ready to sort out the SDCARD
This is where i'm stuck as I don't know which ROM to use, although I believe a gingersense (If I can convince myself I don't want to use camera?) or a HD Rom would be best for me to try.
I think the AOSP? Stock android roms are a little .. shall we say .. ugly, and the MIUI (iphoneish) ones are too iphoney.
So what do you guys reckon are the best gingersense or HD roms about?
Cheers for all the posts and suggestions, it's going well I think
Biff.
I'm using this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
it's fast and stable, cheers
Awesome, that one looks great i'll see if I can get it installed later.
Tried to install Cyanogenmod 7 CM1 through ROM manager, but I am getting what I believe is referred to in the trade as a boot loop lol
Will have a play to sort it out
Hi Folks,
sneaking around all the Forums and Threads about HTC-Desire I came to the conclusion that I urgently need a new ROM on my smartphone. OK, to be honest, it is more-or-less because off this permanent message that my memory is running low.
So I started to gain knowledge about 'root', 'S-Off', 'HBoot', 'Recovery' and all that stuff. It took a while by I managed to 'root' my Desire without any issue.
Bye the way I learned a complete new language and had to jump between several threads to understand all these abbreviations.
Now I struggle with myself as I am not able to decide on which ROM to choose. My favorites are MIUI and Oxygen. But, what confuses me most are the different versions of each ROM. Yes, I read all the threads of most every single ROM but that made the decision not easier.
Is there someone around who can provide some experience with MIUI and/or Oxygen ROMs.
What I really looking for is a nice looking, state-of-the-art, stable and fast ROM as I am not of that kind to flash updates every day.
Did I ever mentioned that my grandchild is laughing at me, so please help me proof that even someone not familiar with all that new stuff will be able to flash a new ROM.
Cheers !!
My suggestion for MIUI is this one:
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/archived-miui-versions-desire-gb.16551/
It's stock version from MIUI England, without many modifications. You can also check out on MIUI Germany site.
In my signature you have something I made that's based on CM7 with just a few mods.
I'm using the MIUI ROM too, the response I get is way faster than the stock HTC rom. Although it's a shame that development stopped at GB (I really want the scrollable widget in ICS), but some of the guys here are working on ICS/JB ports, might jump onto one of those when they mature.
Hi guys, I am a BASIC android user with BASIC phone needs. Unfortunately I own a HTC Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread) and the very crapy HTC Sense 2.1 thats keeps on slowing down the phone and mostly rendering it beyond the point of regular usage.
I want the cleanest possible, fully functioning Android version available, like on Nexus phones. Just a plain, simple, clean and basic Android version. No need for overclocking, Sense crap, MIUI interfaces or other spectaculair may-work-may-not-work-brick-my-phone stuff, just a simple working smartphone, you can call with, send text messages with, Viber, Skype or Whatsapp with. You know, kinda like old people do with the phone
So 2 questions:
1. Which version would you guys recommend as being the cleanest one available on the forum?
2. How on earth do I get there? I have basic/bit advanced knowledge about rooting phones, Kernels, radio versions, etc, but this HTC phone is beyond me. Should I first root it, then CID Unlock/ s-Off it, do I first have to downgrade it to Froyo, etc etc etc. I know the easiest answer is RTFM, or use the search function on this forum first, but with my basic knowledge I cant seem to figure it out with the tons and tons of information thats out there on the forum.
So please, a few pointers, short first-this-then-that guidelines, and I'm sure I will get there.
Have a great weekend, DaMO
First of all, you're in the wrong section.
Second : The best rom without any trouble is this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480
If you want more feature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Both are very stable. Very fast. No problem at all.
But I have to say, these time, most of recent roms are pretty reliable.
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
damo666 said:
Many thanks, overdose. As you are a mod, just move it to the right section.
And like I said, kind of a noob. So the post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242480 is kind of a question mark for me. As far as I understand, this release is based on a CM7 Rom, with added features? And do I only need the ILWT CM7 Kernel, or also the ILWT Deamon? What is a Deamon???!?? and why would I need it? Found a downgrade/upgrade guide from Strawmetal, hopefully it won't brick my phone and I will be able to upgrade to a normal workeable ROM.
Again, many many thanks, and tonight I will either have a useless paper weight, or a normally functioning phone
DM
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The deamon allow you to control overclocking, voltage, I/O, governors.
Witch you dont need, if you dont want to play with it.
i.e mimicry's already set to 1000 mhz cpu. You dont need to touch anything if you're satisfied with this cpu speed.
It's hard to find a complete guide for newbes. Back in years, I remember that I had to look at multiple thread to be sure how to root/backup/flash and make sure not to brick.
The major difference between the two (I was using Mimicry myself for the longest time, but I'm currently testing the Flinny Jellybean build) is one is Gingerbread (CM7) and the other is Ice cream sandwich. So if you're find with android OS 2.3, you will for the most part have the most compatibility with the phone's hardware (since all the drivers are avail), and will run better on the phone. But Mimicry will give you the features of ICS (4.0.x), but may lack in some areas like camera capabilities with 3rd party apps such as instagram (which is fixed in the jellybean rom I'm currently using).
But as a "basic" user, I think sticking with gingerbread will do you just fine.
I personally found this guide most useful and very easy to follow. The only problem might be that it needs adb and the respective drivers, but installing it should not be too difficult.
My favourite ROM, when it comes to speed and stability, is the "cm-7.2.0-vision.zip" found here. It might have some extras, but compared to everything else I tried (and I tried a lot), it worked like a charm.
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
damo666 said:
Hello guys, many many thanks for all your advice. After about a day of work, I have a fully functioning Desire Z, with cyanogen 7.2.0 release. I had some difficulties getting there ( a faulty PC10IMG file, a bootloop after finally flasing the CM zip that seemed endless, a bootloader that gave up on me, etc), but learned a lot along the way. My conclusion: as enthusiastic and capable all the people at XDA are, nothing beats the official manufacterers release of the software. Sure, here and there also original roms have glitches and FC's, but basically everything works the way it should work, all the drivers are present and mostly updated. So my motto is: if it aint broken, dont mess with it
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I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
fletchb said:
I hear ya!
Which guild did you end up using? I found the one here too convoluted to take a chance on bricking my phone. Like it says to download ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0 and 5.8...well which is it? The cyanogenmod wiki instructions are easier to follow but it looks like they stopped developing at gingerbread which I already have. What I did was get the unlock code from HTC and then used busybox to install su for root access.
If CyanogenMod ever comes out with a more current version, I may give it a try but I am guessing they are only going to develop for the latest phones.
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I used a mix of guides, basically the procedure was: downgrade to Froyo, unlocked and temporarly rooted (S-Off), got it permanent rooted, and then installed CM 7.2.0
Thats all
Hi guys, im a total noob here so please take it easy on me, i rooted my s4 today and installed CWM and used TWRP to install cyanogenmod heres exacty what i did in order, note that i forgot to flad gapps can i install it later?
rooted s4
installed CWM root manager
downloaded cwm 10.2 to sd
went into recovery and installed Cyanogenmod and now im stuck on the logo with the circle spinning around it
even if i cant get into cyanogenmod, how could i get into my normal stock touchwiz? i selected backup rom when going into recovery
thanks guys i know someone will be able to help me thanks in advance
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Hi guys, im a total noob here so please take it easy on me, i rooted my s4 today and installed CWM and used TWRP to install cyanogenmod heres exacty what i did in order, note that i forgot to flad gapps can i install it later?
rooted s4
installed CWM root manager
downloaded cwm 10.2 to sd
went into recovery and installed Cyanogenmod and now im stuck on the logo with the circle spinning around it
even if i cant get into cyanogenmod, how could i get into my normal stock touchwiz? i selected backup rom when going into recovery
thanks guys i know someone will be able to help me thanks in advance
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Of all the custom roms to pick from you picked CM, for a noob your not doing to good.
You forgot to read or didn't read it enough, you where supposed to do a factory reset before flashing CM.
CM and Touchwiz don't like each other, so you can't have any trace of the former os before you flash that's where the factory reset comes in.
If you can boot into recovery do a factory reset and start all over again.
If not then you try for download mode, and use Odin with a stock firmware to start all over again.
With touchwiz you never forgot the apps.
Pp.
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thanks bro, while i was stuck i played around in the recovery and wiped cache, factory reset phone and re installed CM 10 and gaps and it is now working perfectly, hopefully this thread can help someone else
You got it, read read and read some more. To go back to TW you do the same with factory reset.
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
You got it, read read and read some more. To go back to TW you do the same with factory reset.
Pp.
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thanks so to get to touch wiz i just wipe cache, factory reset and then...?
You d/l and flash a Rom custom or stock modified like Fenny's TMO 442 stock base Rom.
True stock you do firmware with Odin.
Pp.
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did the same
I installed the same version of cyanogenmod but didnt like it. So i restored from my backup of touchwiz and now my baseband and imei are unknown. Ive been working on this for about a week now with no luck
PanchoPlanet said:
You d/l and flash a Rom custom or stock modified like Fenny's TMO 442 stock base Rom.
True stock you do firmware with Odin.
Pp.
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thanks man! I'm Liking CM 10.2
fixed my problem also
no_username_available said:
thanks man! I'm Liking CM 10.2
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I also fixed my problem if anyone is interested. i reverted to an earlier version for cwm and restored and everything is good.
PanchoPlanet said:
Of all the custom roms to pick from you picked CM, for a noob your not doing to good.
You forgot to read or didn't read it enough, you where supposed to do a factory reset before flashing CM.
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This comes across as being a little nasty to a new users who's politely asking for help.
And the repeated jabs at Cyanogen by you are not welcome here. No one says you have to like CM, but it's rude and insulting to the phone modding community to continue to badmouth the most popular custom Android ROM and the basis for most other AOSP roms.
If you have criticism of Cyanogen or anything else, there are more mature ways to discuss them. But telling a new member that he's doing a bad job of picking roms by choosing CM is insulting to the member and to the entire CM development team that has deep ties to XDA Developers.
Skipjacks said:
This comes across as being a little nasty to a new users who's politely asking for help.
And the repeated jabs at Cyanogen by you are not welcome here. No one says you have to like CM, but it's rude and insulting to the phone modding community to continue to badmouth the most popular custom Android ROM and the basis for most other AOSP roms.
If you have criticism of Cyanogen or anything else, there are more mature ways to discuss them. But telling a new member that he's doing a bad job of picking roms by choosing CM is insulting to the member and to the entire CM development team that has deep ties to XDA Developers.
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I think my post will help someone in the future if they "read" and search the forum, sometimes a little assertiveness goes a long way Mr.
I spoke no lies. After all I was thanked, In case you didn't notice. !
I think it's called "freedom of speech" .
Some body has to impart some sort of warning, some devs aren't very clear about what they are making available to the community, and think that all that show up at there thread know what they are doing. Many times don't provide support on their own threads and post a cm Web site where your suppose to go for answers.
I have ran Cm on my previous phones successfully and choose not to because of its BUGGY nature, especially on a device that needs to be reliable, my Tab 2 is different it's just for basic use and reliability is not essential. Currently running Cm10.2.1 JB on my Tab 2 and loving it.
And besides you never forget your apps with TouchWiz.
Pp.
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PanchoPlanet said:
I think my post will help someone in the future if they "read" and search the forum, sometimes a little assertiveness goes a long way Mr.
I spoke no lies. After all I was thanked, In case you didn't notice. !
I think it's called "freedom of speech" .
Some body has to impart some sort of warning, some devs aren't very clear about what they are making available to the community, and think that all that show up at there thread know what they are doing. Many times don't provide support on their own threads and post a cm Web site where your suppose to go for answers.
I have ran Cm on my previous phones successfully and choose not to because of its BUGGY nature, especially on a device that needs to be reliable, my Tab 2 is different it's just for basic use and reliability is not essential. Currently running Cm10.2.1 JB on my Tab 2 and loving it.
And besides you never forget your apps with TouchWiz.
Pp.
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No one cars if you were thanked for a post. If you care about how much you get thanked then you have missed the entire point of the thanks system.
Freedom of speech does not apply here. That is a protection against government encroachment on speech. XDA can prevent you from saying anything on XDA Developers that they want to. Even if they couldn't (they can) your post is still rude. There are mature helpful ways to discuss rom problems.
Developers here are under no obligation to provide ongoing tech support. Nor are any promises made to anyone that ongoing tech support will be provided. This is NOT a support site. This is a development site. Development threads ARE SPECIFICALLY NOT support threads. For that reason users exploring the development threads most certainly ARE expected to know what they are doing. Even then, MANY rom developers, including CM rom developers, DO provide regular tech support. Some of them are great about it, going well above and beyond what is expected here. So your claims about CM developers are inaccurate.
Your complaints about stability are also wrong. Cyanogen STABLE RELEASES are very stable and reliable. (They aren't the most commonly used AOSP rom by accident). Any bugs that do exist in CM stable releases are well documented. So you should know what you are getting prior to flashing.
Nightlies are a different animal. They may be and often are buggy. That's why they are not called STABLE RELEASES. They are released so that users can find the bugs in them. If you run CM nightlies, don't complain about stability or bugs. (Help fix them, but don't complain)
Finally, the CM development team (and all ROM development teams for that matter) build their roms for free in their spare time and them give them to the world asking nothing in return. To contribute nothing to the development of a ROM then complain about the quality of the software and of the developers after they gave their ROM to you FREE OF CHARGE is beyond rude.
If you have problems with ROM stability or bugginess, you have 2 options. 1) Don't use it. or 2) Help contribute to it's further development by improving on code.
Option 3) "complain about the rom and the developers and try to tell other people CM is awful" is not an acceptable alternative.
I'm going to be the adult here and put a stop to this silliness.
Pp. :sly:
Sent from my Touchwiz device that never forgets apps.
PanchoPlanet said:
I'm going to be the adult here and put a stop to this silliness.
Pp. :sly:
Sent from my Touchwiz device that never forgets apps.
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Thank you. So no more complaining about or talking bad about free roms that other people work hard on then?
You do put a lot of time into trying to help people here. You have 10 posts a day trying to assist people with various problems. That is all in the great spirit of XDA and is highly appreciated. Its only that extra post with the negativity that needs to stop.
Thank you for your understanding.
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.
Well as a long time user of scottsroms
Thank u for the cleanrom ace
I have never found the stability that offers on any rom thus far
With the advent of lollipop and every dev out there giving it their all...im just wondering which rom atm could give me the streamlined and no bug experience in kitkat and above...I really liked the omnirom project but that stopped and went offtrack a bit coz the dev was busy elsewhere
But he gave us something of a miracle coz it was so glitchfree and finally we had a rom base to compete with cm on beauty speed and bug fixes
So I would really appreciate ure suggestions..
P.S im not wanting on tw roms but something that feels like the complete package...
P.P.S I have seen the firmware and stock images one stop shop and installed them stock rooted too but I keep losing files into lost.dir so imma keep away from them
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