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Phone back on and off??????

ok recently when im using my evo, and i do some multitasking, the freaking phone keeps turning off and restarts itself, at the beggining i thought ok maybe it frost or something, but now every other day im using it and im in the internet and facebook and other apps, it freezes for a bit and restarts itself. which is annnnoyyyying me cuz i loose everything i was doinggggg....ANY SOLUTIONS WHATS THE PROBLEM, IS IT THE PHONE???

Are u rooted.... if u are have u tried other roms with multiple wipes before the flash? Also my old evo did that after i rooted it and i could not find a fix but luckily i broke the screen an got a new one that dosent have that issue!
i forgot to ask are u saying a full reboot or just to the boot screen?

My first guess would be that you deleted something that the system needs to run. I believe you cannot delete friendstream, calender, etc some stupid apps that you might believe are completely useless but somehow HTC integrated them into the system as necessary system files.
Also did you fiddle with your SetCPU or kernals? Using setcpu to alter your CPU frequency can result in system crashes and different kernals have different set vcores. If the vcore is too low for your chip it does not have enough juice to operate properly and therefore crashes.
If you are stock then I'm not sure what it could be...

no this phone is not rooted (itz cuz i dont know how too lol), and its exactly how it came when i first got it,
the only things im running is
launcher pro plus as my default launcher. and just normal widgets like fancy widget and custom icons nothing major.
everything works perfect, but it keeps restart itself after a do alot of multitasking, cuz usually a app will get the "Force close" when its not working but for me it just freezes and restart itself , it goes to the "Sprint logo & 4g start up" just like how it would do when you first start your phone, the only thing is doesnt do is that it doesnt shot the HTC EVO 4G IN THE BEGGINING, JUST THE SPRINT AND 4G LOGO, than everything reloads itself on the screen.

and it was like this before u switched to the new launcher?

Interesting... Have you scanned your phone for any malware? Perhaps there is something there that should not be.
Here is what I would do:
Factory reset and run the phone stock without any apps for a day. If you still have issues - switch phones ASAP.
If you do not have issues after the reset, start installing one app at a time till you find the one that is buggy.
Hope this helps.

lgevo said:
and it was like this before u switched to the new launcher?
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yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.

I'm really surprised your phone is not rooted. I was going to guess you were OC'd just a little too high. My Dad had similar problems with his unrooted EVO before the 2.2 update. I never narrowed it down but I think it was a problem with Beautiful Widgets. I loaded a bunch of non-root apps on his phone (LP, handcent, BW, etc.), trying to set him up, and he was plagued with reboots so he wiped it all and went back to 100% stock. I still can't convince him to root.

aalopez10 said:
yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.
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Its a combination of things really.
1) HTC is not known for having the best build quality. Motorola, for example, is light years ahead.
2) The Android marketplace is not regulated like the Appstore. You will frequently get force closed apps because 1) Apps are regulated by the devs, not Google and 2) there is just a huge abundance of Android phones with many differences between them.
Your phone should not be resetting itself. A force close is different than a reboot. I would call HTC/Sprint and ask for a different phone. Might want to add the fact that none of your friends Evos do this so it is singled out to yours specifically.

thanks, i might just do that but all sprint ever freaking does is that they gonna do a reset of the phone and i already did that, I KNOW WHAT IM DOING WITH MY PHONE,
and it would be nice to learn how to root, cuz i been thinking of doing for a whileeee after 2.2 update...and see if i can fix this problem.

aalopez10 said:
thanks, i might just do that but all sprint ever freaking does is that they gonna do a reset of the phone and i already did that, I KNOW WHAT IM DOING WITH MY PHONE,
and it would be nice to learn how to root, cuz i been thinking of doing for a whileeee after 2.2 update...and see if i can fix this problem.
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My 2 cents:
Don't root with a problem already present. 99% of the members here will not be able to help you with any of the issues you might run into. Only the developers will be able to help with real issues. That being said, since you already have a problem the worst thing you can do is void your warranty by rooting.

werxen said:
My 2 cents:
Don't root with a problem already present. 99% of the members here will not be able to help you with any of the issues you might run into. Only the developers will be able to help with real issues. That being said, since you already have a problem the worst thing you can do is void your warranty by rooting.
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This is not accurate..
80% of the members here ARE able to help, but 90% of those members will choose not to if you are rude and disrespectful like some other people choose to be.
Rooting your phone may very well fix your problems.
It may not help at all, but many of the roms available are far more stable than stock.
Uninstall all of your non-stock apps and see if the problem persists. If it does not then you know it was a software problem and you can either take the plunge and root and go from there, or reinstall your apps one by one and see when you start having problems again. If you uninstall all non-stock apps and you still have issues then you may have a hardware problem in which case you should try to get your ohone replaced especially if you are still in your 30 days.
Keep in mind that even if you root and technically void your warranty a) your warranty being void is at the discretion of the CS rep you talk to and b) rooting does NOT void your insurance and your insurance covers manufacturing defects at no cost to you.
Try to learn some basic troubleshooting habits and avoid things like: homophobic comments, advising members to kill themselves, excessive swearing, calling people trolls when you are clearly being a troll yourself, and you will get all the advice you ask for.
Unrevoked has been pulled temporarily for some bugfixing so rooting 2.2 is actually not possible right now until they re-release it, or you find a copy of Unrevoked 3 somewhere (which is a bad idea, only use an official copy made available by the Unrevoked team) so take some time to read up, ask questions and understand some of the fundamentals of what you are getting into before you do something like break your wifi and not realize it's an easy fix then come on here and freak out.
Rooting is intimidating before you do it the first few times, but if you follow the guides to the letter and stay calm you'll be just fine. Just don't forget the staying calm part. There isn't much you can do to your phone that is irreversible, it's just a matter of preparing for potential problems and knowing what steps to take to recover from them.
If you are remotely inclined to learn how to root your phone then do it!! But only if you have enough time to devote to what will soon become your new hobby/obsession, it's that much fun

werxen said:
When was the last time you actually gave anything to a thread or these forums? Honestly bro everything I have seen you post is useless and non-technical in every aspect. Not trying to be mean to you but stop trying to help when you don't give good advice. We get it, you have a high post count. Good for you.
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You're an idiot, the only posts of mine you've probably seen are responses to your offensive drivel. I don't care what you think of me, and am not about to provide you with proof that I know my ****. I don't care about post count and the advice I give is sound.
Look in a mirror.

No offense, but why is this still an issue? If OP did a factory reset, which is assumed to bring the phone back to a clean stock, and this problem still persists then the obvious solution would be to get a replacement. Yes, a replacement could take some time to arrive, but if this is a hardware issue, any amount of troubleshooting on the software side wouldn't matter. Then again, maybe you have a faulty micro-sd card and could be simple as swapping for a new one. Anyways, if you did a MSL/factory reset to a clean slate and your phone still intermittenly reboots, go get a new one. Good luck.

mizzos4 said:
No offense, but why is this still an issue? If OP did a factory reset, which is assumed to bring the phone back to a clean stock, and this problem still persists then the obvious solution would be to get a replacement. Yes, a replacement could take some time to arrive, but if this is a hardware issue, any amount of troubleshooting on the software side wouldn't matter. Then again, maybe you have a faulty micro-sd card and could be simple as swapping for a new one. Anyways, if you did a MSL/factory reset to a clean slate and your phone still intermittenly reboots, go get a new one. Good luck.
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Agreed! Refrain from rooting because that will void your warranty.

aalopez10 said:
yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.
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I think what he meant was weather or not this still happens without installing launcherpro at all, when you're just running the default launcher. Also, does it still happen if you remove/uninstall all of your widgets/apps? If yes, and this still happens with no widgets running, and no apps installed, you may want to talk to Sprint about an exchange.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

T-Mobile 2.2 is here

Seems guys on the Androidforms are saying 2.2 is getting pushed OTA as of this morning...good news for T-Mobile users

Can confirm that, updating now yippee at last.

And me 30% in about 3 mins over WiFi

Camera seems unchanged. Controls still on the left (top). Can anyone point me in the direction of a definitive list of Desire froyo improvements/changes. Thanks

update
All done
We now have portable WiFi!!!!

Just out of curiosity, what sort of branding is on the T mobile desire? I mean is there any changed apps, boot screens?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Things I've noticed so far...
MS Exchange password no longer required
720p video recording enabled
Wifi hot-spot deffo there and working
annoying t-mo bloat splash-screen as well as the pink circle at startup
browsing on internet seems loads quicker - not tested speed for sure yet
Install Apps to SD
took about 15 mins to update and didn't erase anything, kept all existing apps.
Nothing negative yet

What are the version numbers? Radio?

ROM: 2.12.110.2
Radio: 32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2
Only negative is the removal of the "privacy" settings - now has to be located using search.

Calendar entries lost...
If you get the 'You have no calendars'. Just go to Settings and Calendars. I checked my Gmail and PC - and they all back. With a bit of delay, so you might have to be patient to let it update it!

orange user
It seems t mobile haven't done too much
We still have a splash screen. And we have a new top apps icon
Well done t mobile.you said september and delivered without problems...

sticking with my rooted device, although the radio might work better seeing that my desire is a t-mobile

I root with the Unrevoked 3.21rc on 2.1, but now that I tried installing the 2.2 OTA update it's stuck in a boot loop. Any advise on how to get the phone working again?

Also just noticed a fix to the audio playback volume using a headset, it seems approx 40% louder and more bass. One happy bunny here
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I've got a rooted Desire done with unrevoked3. As I understood it I could update using T-Mobile OTA and would then have their branded, bloated 2.2 and lose root.
I'm now reading that I have to unroot the phone before updating.
If this is the case, I'd like to consider updating to the vanilla HTC Sense version of 2.2, so please humour this n00b and clarify the following:
1: Which ROM is the vanilla one, I've done a search and must be missing something obvious!
2: Are there any downsides to having the stock rom as opposed to the T-Mob uk one, e.g. network performance, etc?
3: Unrooting - bricking potential?
4: Apparently the T-Mob rom is >80mb and the standard Sense one is apparently about 25mb. So far I can only find anecdotal evidence on the T-Mob forums to say the bloat is a bunch of irremovable links to 'top apps' (sigh), German voicemail and web TV things which I can't imagine are so huge. Am I misinformd regarding the 2.2 Desire sense vanilla size?

only T-Mo thing I can see in addiction is a new app called "TopApps". It just shows some T-Mobile recommended apps. Pretty useless really.

Apparently using anything other than Sense will reveal the other useless apps.
So, filling the device with pointless things then hiding them. Thanks, T-Mobile.

I've encountered a few problems prior to and after updating. For some reason unbeknownst to me I couldn't back up any of my messages (which means they are gone forever) also, Handcent SMS refuses to work now. I've uninstalled and reinstalled and it still just black screens me and then I have to reset my phone.
I'm not too pleased with the Tmob Froyo so far.

Mine is being awkward and won't update!
I download the update, it backs up my data and when it restarts I see the round circle and then it goes to a black screen and nothing happens.
I haven't rooted it, so I'm wondering why it's being annoying.

I wonder what are all those apps doing in the Manage Applications - Running? Some of them are widgets, but not all... I just restarted my Desire and it already fills up with Mobilbox Pro, Photoshop, Open GPS tracker etc... do they now start automatically?
Otherwise... Froyo feels really really good! mmmm!

[Q] rooting my htc incredible

I own an HTC INCREDIBLE and I've been told to "root" my phone to get rid of all the bloatware. What is rooting and how do I do it? A lot of my apps and all of my music and all photos are saved to my mem card. There are some HTC apps I would actually like to keep. Also, is there anyway I could get swipe on my phone?

Yep - you can root your phone to get rid of bloatware and allow you to do all sorts of other things, basically, rooting the phone allows you to be the administrator of your phone, whereas now you just have a user account on it ... As for how to root, that's been done a lot of different ways and is explained in a number of places - you should read several how-tos so you'll have an idea of what you're getting yourself into (and whether you want to bother)... The contents of your memory card should be safe, but you should back them up anyway, since memory cards do fail during normal use. Simply rooting won't automatically remove any of your apps, so your good there, but it will give you the ability to remove apps, or even break (or even "brick") your phone, so take it easy and don't take any steps 'till you understand what you're about to do.
Here are some resources you can check out :
Ok, actually I'm not allowed to be helpful by posting links since I'm a new member, but google these terms: root droid incredible Jonamerica - that'll get you started...
As for swype the legit way to get it is to sign up for their beta (it's available on their website which I can't link you to) and go from there.

Thanks so much. I'll check it out!

Just a few newbie tips for you.
I'm new to all of this also.....rooting and flashing.
1. Read a lot before you do anything. Its not hard but readup first!
2. Be patient......2 or 3 times while I have rooted or flashed I have thought that maybe my phone is dead. Sometimes there is no visible indication that the phone is actually doing what you want it to do. Let it sit there and do its thing. DO NOT PANIC and pull the battery!
3. Backup backup backup backup BACKUP!
Have fun.....I am

wildland said:
Yep - you can root your phone to get rid of bloatware and allow you to do all sorts of other things, basically, rooting the phone allows you to be the administrator of your phone, whereas now you just have a user account on it ... As for how to root, that's been done a lot of different ways and is explained in a number of places - you should read several how-tos so you'll have an idea of what you're getting yourself into (and whether you want to bother)... The contents of your memory card should be safe, but you should back them up anyway, since memory cards do fail during normal use. Simply rooting won't automatically remove any of your apps, so your good there, but it will give you the ability to remove apps, or even break (or even "brick") your phone, so take it easy and don't take any steps 'till you understand what you're about to do.
Here are some resources you can check out :
Ok, actually I'm not allowed to be helpful by posting links since I'm a new member, but google these terms: root droid incredible Jonamerica - that'll get you started...
As for swype the legit way to get it is to sign up for their beta (it's available on their website which I can't link you to) and go from there.
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Thank you for this search link. Guide is very helpful, fills in alot of the blanks I've been having.

You're welcome.
There are numerous other guides and threads out there, so googling and reading is a good idea... I just researched it again since I rooted my wife's Inc. last night and since it has an SLCD screen I wanted to make sure that unrevoked had been updated to work with these screens - turns out it has and it worked fine. I actually had a scary moment when the phone wouldn't boot into recovery (five vibrations and a blank screen) but a google search and a battery pull saved me and so far so good since then - and I was able to uninstall verizon's backup assistant which was killing her battery every day.

Is that the only reason you rooted your wife's phone, was to remove some of the bloat? I might end up doing the same.

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Is that the only reason you rooted your wife's phone, was to remove some of the bloat? I might end up doing the same.
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Yeah, that was the main reason - when she upgraded from her dumbphone, we used Backup Assistant to transfer her numbers over, but lately it's been hanging during sync and killing her battery (and/or it may be syncing over the poor 1x data connection rather than available wifi - not sure about that but it sounds like something Verizon would do (it would both be a bit more secure, and use more data they could bill us for)). Since Verizon in all their wisdom made it so you can't uninstall that app or disassociate it from your account, I figured the I'd use force and just root the phone - worked too, now her battery's lasting all day, no problem.
I also would recommend rooting to anyone concerned about certain apps wanting internet permissions - DroidWall is a great app allowing you to prevent apps from accessing the internet (or you can block just wifi or just 3g for a specific app, potentially allowing you to better manage your data usage).

make sure to read alot about what ur getting into.. And remember to always backup before you do anything (incase of errors/problems) you can always boot back to stock...happy rootin!

Check this out: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones.
That guide is specific to Cyanogenmod, and it's a little outdated, but it's a good starting point to learn what applications are required for the phone to run, and which applications are simply "extra."

Help! Borked my WiFi (from removing bloatware?)

Hoping someone has some insight. Yesterday I got bored and rooted (wanted to use 'GL to SD,' install the Roboto font, and get rid of some factory boatware), despite my previous decision to wait until CWM.
Anyway, I got a little careless with System App Remover in yanking some of the Acer pre-installed apps like Agenda, SocialJogger, etc. (didn't make backups or even write down what apps I was deleting), because I was pretty confident they were all worthless (and I did not have them on my Asus Transformer, so I knew they weren't integral to Honeycomb).
When I restarted my A100 this morning, however, the WiFi connection would simply never get past "obtaining IP address." Anyone have any idea of what went wrong, or what app I shouldntve deleted? Am I wrongfully assuming it had to do with removing some of the bloatware?
Right now I'm downloading a system dump, I guess my plan is to dig through the .apks and reinstall all the ones I removed in hopes of restoring wifi connectivity.

Did you try forgetting the network and start from scratch on that network?

Yep, and rebooted, and restarted my router.
Edit:
Darndest thing, suddenly decided to connect. Gremlins, man.
Also, some questions for the field: do we have a definitive answer as to whether or not we can get OTA updates if we deleted system apps? Also, can we regain root after we lose it from updating, or did Acer close that down?
I'll permanently trade root-access for ICS when the time comes if I have to, but not for that update that hit two weeks ago.

quote "Also, some questions for the field: do we have a definitive answer as to whether or not we can get OTA updates if we deleted system apps? Also, can we regain root after we lose it from updating, or did Acer close that down?"
I just froze the bloat ware with TBU. Just in case.

[Q] Safe Removal Bloat?

Hey guys, I'm looking to see if anyone knows of what bloat is safe to remove or not
The list on my titanium back-up is super populated and I can see some that I want to freeze for sure but I'm worried if they're tied in to any system apps that could cause my phone to go out of whack.
Any input is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

I can tell you that you need S-off before you do anything. TB used to be all you needed (I.e., root)...But now without S-off TB won't do anything to system apps.
Plus, I don't know if anyone has worked out this yet for TMO. I disabled Amazon, File Manager, Facebook for HTC, and Kid Zone...And my WiFi calling stopped working.
I'm pretty sure it was f*cking Kid Zone which did it... I've now successfully disabled Amazon and Facebook with no problems They disappear from your app drawer when you disabled them, so no point freezing them. If you disable them, you can then un-install them (if S-off), but again, no one has reported all the potential collateral problems by doing this, so I'd hold off.