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!!!SOLVED!!!: Stable HangUPs in 3D CPU intense games on all ROMs

Hey guys,
i got stable hung ups in 3D intense games (asphalt5, dungeon hunter 3D, crusade of destiny)
some 3-10 mins of play and bang! you got complete stall - have to plug out the battery to reboot.
all other games (2D arcades, tetrises, arcanoids, pacmans) are working quite stable.
i've already tried almost all available ROMS (except stock non rooted one, btw - i dont want to update HBOOT to 0.8, full reset with wiping all the caches inc. dalvik and ext3 part before each ROM.)
pays ROM (several vers)
MCR r2-r3.1 (with richard's kernel either with OCUV or with OC only or without any UVOC and with original MCK 1.1 kernel)
amer_mod des final
all are behaving the same....
what the heck? My phone is generic and certified for Russia (PCT) and it's from white shipment.
the only idea i have is slow SD, cause i use the one which was with the phone - 4GB class2 SD.
please ideas? i wanna play some time not only tetris!

just noticed one moment. it happenes not only in 3D games, it also happenes when using the phone intensively, i.e. now I got stable instant reboot when using internal browser (even with pictures and flash turned off) and opera beta for android. the most interesting part is that just before reboot the back bottom part of the phone becomes noticeable warmer, let's say about 40°c and then instant reboot. (just as it is in 3d games) I use Richards OC only (no UV) kernel v14 with Max freq. set to 998 and MCR r3.1 (everything was wiped upon flash)

Re: Stable HangUPs in 3D CPU intense games on all ROMs
Maybe its some kind of thermal protection of the cpu?
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i thought so too...
does any one knows some king of CPU thermal monitoring tool with logs for android?

Happens to me as well. The phone heats up like crazy particularly on badly coded games like the ones gameloft released. For example polarbit's armaggedon squadron runs perfectly well for any amount of time but realfootball for example causes the phone to overheat.
They really botched their ports.

just did a thermal monitoring with tempmonitor lite - but on Desite it only monitors BATTERY temp - it's about 32-33 degrees - so far i found no CPU temp mon which works. and still phone reboots during hard flash playing in about 10 mins with battery temp about 32-33 degrees. i also noticed an infinite boot loop when turning on the phone with AC plugged in. (it starting to load sense and just after SD card preparing notification STABLE instant reboot, though it may not be related)
will try to use stock ROM today (i still have the very first nandroid backup)

Try to uv without oc...should get the temps down.

Any of you guys still experiencing these problems? Have an untouched desire (sim free) that hasnt been unlocked or rooted and sometimes (although rarely) the phone just restarts itself.

Prema999 said:
Try to uv without oc...should get the temps down.
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UV only kernel reported to have some stability probs....
when u use OC only kernel and, as in my case, set up max. freq to 998 it literally means that you just dont user any OC. so overclocking is not the issue...

jaymit said:
Any of you guys still experiencing these problems? Have an untouched desire (sim free) that hasnt been unlocked or rooted and sometimes (although rarely) the phone just restarts itself.
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My phone reboots when I'm playing robo wars, when the battery is LOWish and Im charging the phone at the same time. No battery warning, just reboots. If I have a good charge on the phone, and am charging then it seems fine. This is NOT a lock up, like the original thread starter, but a straight old reboot... Annoying, but I dont play robowars when there is low charge from now on!

gunja99 said:
This is NOT a lock up, like the original thread starter, but a straight old reboot... Annoying, but I dont play robowars when there is low charge from now on!
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i got complete lock ups with only one game (heard rumors about it's bad coding style) the rest issues just reboots the phone. also i noticed that it reboots more frequent when using the phone and it's connected to charger simultaneously.

!!!UPDATE!!! 27.06.10
got back my Desire from the service after 10 days. They've changed motherboard (IMEI also changed) and no more overheating problems!!! HOORAAAY!!!!!!
It's working now even under high load!!!!

[Q] Desire Z crashes after overclocking

Hi
I have permroot and s/off my phone using gfree method and i flashed a kernal
that i downloaded (Cyanogen Kernel v1.3) the kernal allows overclocking upto over 1400 mhz ,at 1094 mhz everything is fine and my phone is stable but as soon as i set the frequency over that using setCPU my phone freezes ,i dont know what i am doing wrong this is the first time i tried overclocking a phone ,i hope i am wrong but i am thinking since every cpu is unique maybe thats the max mine can handle ??? i apprentice any tips, advise , help ,suggestions
Thanks.
i have also tried EZDZ_Godspeed_update03 but using this kernal my phone doesnt even boot up it crashes immediately when i turn my phone on.

bahmanxda said:
Hi
I have permroot and s/off my phone using gfree method and i flashed a kernal
that i downloaded (Cyanogen Kernel v1.3) the kernal allows overclocking upto over 1400 mhz ,at 1094 mhz everything is fine and my phone is stable but as soon as i set the frequency over that using setCPU my phone freezes ,i dont know what i am doing wrong this is the first time i tried overclocking a phone ,i hope i am wrong but i am thinking since every cpu is unique maybe thats the max mine can handle ??? i apprentice any tips, advise , help ,suggestions
Thanks.
i have also tried EZDZ_Godspeed_update03 but using this kernal my phone doesnt even boot up it crashes immediately when i turn my phone on.
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You might be right. Not every CPU is created equal and since the phone is only supposed to run 800Mhz you can't exactly complain that it "only" does ~1.1ghz
On the other hand a little more juice can make a reluctant CPU run a little faster. I'm not sure how the voltage tables work out for different Kernels but you might want to look in to that. The higher the voltage, the better the chance your OC will work, typically.

That's true, every cpu is unique. But for now, since the kernels are still going through development, I would assume it's perfectly fine that overclocked speeds are still quite unstable

Thanks for the replys i am not really complaining i just wanna make sure that i havnt messed up somewhere i thought the crashing might be happening because i messed something up or maybe it happend to others and its a common problem or there is a fix for it .
Also i would appreciate it if someone could put me in the right direction in regard to changing the voltage.
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just wipe my original stock sense rom and flashed it with virtuous-vision_froyo_rom-v0.8.0 and applied all the patches but still the same problem
my phone freezes instantly as soon as i change it to just over 1100 mhz
its so strange its very very stable at 1094 mhz hasnt crashed even once.
any ideas?

The current overclock kernel that Flippy has over in Development (1.4) causes my phone to freeze when I'm trying to play Angry Birds. CyanogenMod's kernel runs it at 1.4Ghz, and I'm using an older, more stable version of Flippy's kernel.

bahmanxda said:
just wipe my original stock sense rom and flashed it with virtuous-vision_froyo_rom-v0.8.0 and applied all the patches but still the same problem
my phone freezes instantly as soon as i change it to just over 1100 mhz
its so strange its very very stable at 1094 mhz hasnt crashed even once.
any ideas?
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It could be simply that your CPU isn't capable of over-clocking that high. Its hard to say as the kernels are still being developed but the ability to overclock a processor can vary greatly from unit to unit...
I have CM 6.1 and the last few days I have been running my phone at 1017 to compare the performance difference against the 1497 and thus far, I haven't really seen a drastic difference... That may change as the Gingerbread based ROMS start to trickle out but for now 1ghz seems like plenty of power.
You could always try a different kernel and see if it yields different results.

bahmanxda said:
Hi
I have permroot and s/off my phone using gfree method and i flashed a kernal
that i downloaded (Cyanogen Kernel v1.3) the kernal allows overclocking upto over 1400 mhz ,at 1094 mhz everything is fine and my phone is stable but as soon as i set the frequency over that using setCPU my phone freezes ,i dont know what i am doing wrong this is the first time i tried overclocking a phone ,i hope i am wrong but i am thinking since every cpu is unique maybe thats the max mine can handle ??? i apprentice any tips, advise , help ,suggestions
Thanks.
i have also tried EZDZ_Godspeed_update03 but using this kernal my phone doesnt even boot up it crashes immediately when i turn my phone on.
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you should check/edit the overclock scripts..
I found wrong configuration script (650 Mhz using Androidiani OR)

Screen on screen off problem Vision rom

I just flashed the vision rom on g2 about 6 hours ago earlier today from Rom Manager and its running great except that when the phone goes into screen off mode, and then i try to turn the phone back screen on the screen stays black but the bottom 4 buttons still glow, and when i click stuff on the screen it clicks them but its black and there is NO brightness at all NO LIGHT lol, now this isn't the phones problem because on the normal froyo backup i have it works fine, but i am in love with sense, except it really pisses me off that it does this, if anyone can help it would be great or if someone has experienced this issue and found any way to solve it, please let me know how. If you want a video let me know i can make one.

TheRealEvo said:
I just flashed the vision rom on g2 about 6 hours ago earlier today from Rom Manager and its running great except that when the phone goes into screen off mode, and then i try to turn the phone back screen on the screen stays black but the bottom 4 buttons still glow, and when i click stuff on the screen it clicks them but its black and there is NO brightness at all NO LIGHT lol, now this isn't the phones problem because on the normal froyo backup i have it works fine, but i am in love with sense, except it really pisses me off that it does this, if anyone can help it would be great or if someone has experienced this issue and found any way to solve it, please let me know how. If you want a video let me know i can make one.
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You have overclocked right?
this is a very common problem
what you need to do is set up a screen of profile on setcpu
min:245
max:368
scaling : powersave
and make sure you tick Enable on profiles menu
this should solve your problem.

bahmanxda said:
You have overclocked right?
this is a very common problem
what you need to do is set up a screen of profile on setcpu
min:245
max:368
scaling : powersave
and make sure you tick Enable on profiles menu
this should solve your problem.
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Thank you for the information, just set everything up the way you said to and gonna give it a test now, thank you!!
Edit: also, i have it clocked at 1420 max and 800 min, and a set profile for the one that you gave me and one so if it overheats to clock itself down, should i keep the min to 800 or should i make it lower, this is for when the phone is on, when it goes screen off it goes into the profile you gave me, thanks.

TheRealEvo said:
Thank you for the information, just set everything up the way you said to and gonna give it a test now, thank you!!
Edit: also, i have it clocked at 1420 max and 800 min, and a set profile for the one that you gave me and one so if it overheats to clock itself down, should i keep the min to 800 or should i make it lower, this is for when the phone is on, when it goes screen off it goes into the profile you gave me, thanks.
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why do you have your min at 800 mhz anyway?
there is no need for that put the min at 245 your phone will scale up when it needs
to. and for scalling, ondemand works for me best ,you can can try different ones to see which on gives you better performance and battery life. dont use performance scaling for everyday use though .

[Q] Sleep mode/ screen off problems

Okay does any one have this same problem or am i just doing something wrong?
Every time i let my kindle sit with the screen off after about 30 minutes or so, and I assume it keeps going and getting stuck in sleep mode but the only way for me to get it turned back on is to do the whole power button for 20 seconds and then reboot. Am I not being patient enough with it or is there some trick to getting the screen back on that i haven't found yet? Because I've tried multiple different things and there isn't a disable sleep mode option in my rom just the option to extend the time, even though its pretty much useless. But can anyone help me with this?

what rom are you on?

Right now I'm on Hell Fire 1.1 but last week i was running CM9 Reloaded and it did the same exact thing.

I was going to give a long speech about how people need to READ before installing any new roms but considering the Hellfire thread doesn't list what works and what doesn't, I guess it's not entirely your fault
It's called "sleep of death" (SOD). Some ICS roms have problems with it and some don't. The same could be said about certain individual devices. You could boost your minimum CPU usage to 600Mhz or more, or try a different rom. Though, it should be noted that changing your CPU settings will affect battery life.

okay that makes sense i had no idea that most of the new roms have problems with it. but I'll probably try to up the min cpu usage i suppose the difference between 600 MHz and 300 MHz isn't going to be a true killer for the amount i use it but which rom or roms would you recommend? That don't have this problem I'd really like to try barebones but every time i try to flash it my Kindle goes crazy so i gave up on trying with it.

Is my Note 4 defective?

I need somebody's help. The coolest my Note 4 CPU/GPU seems to get is about 53 degrees C and that's when I turn it on after it's been asleep on my desk. It is not a rogue app or anything like that because I have done both Factory resets and I have install custom roms, so everything has been factory reset multiple times. The water damage sticker indicates no water damage whatsoever. I know phones can get hot when gaming, my Note 4 gets to anywhere between 70 to 85 degrees Celsius and I am just wondering if that's normal I reduced my screen resolution to 720P and disabled two cores of the quad core processor and it does not seem to help one bit. Is this temperature normal or do I need to get rid of the phone?
PS when doing normal browsing it seems to hover around 60 to 67 degrees C
And the battery does not seem to go over 37 degrees Celsius

bucs9115 said:
I need somebody's help. The coolest my Note 4 CPU/GPU seems to get is about 53 degrees C and that's when I turn it on after it's been asleep on my desk. It is not a rogue app or anything like that because I have done both Factory resets and I have install custom roms, so everything has been factory reset multiple times. The water damage sticker indicates no water damage whatsoever. I know phones can get hot when gaming, my Note 4 gets to anywhere between 70 to 85 degrees Celsius and I am just wondering if that's normal I reduced my screen resolution to 720P and disabled two cores of the quad core processor and it does not seem to help one bit. Is this temperature normal or do I need to get rid of the phone?
PS when doing normal browsing it seems to hover around 60 to 67 degrees C
And the battery does not seem to go over 37 degrees Celsius
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Okay, so I got rid of my Note 4 so this is off of memory (full-disclosure). My Note 4 always ran pretty hot when it had to do anything. When flashing ROMs I'd be lucky if the CPU was below 70 C and any time I'd be playing a GPU intensive game it would get too hot to touch. I never had a lot of issues with the battery temp being too high though despite this.
As far as solutions go:
1) Screen res might help.....but I would try my other suggestions first
2) I wouldn't recommend disabling cores, it just makes the other two have to work harder to accomplish the same tasks and may be worse overall.
3) Kernel adiutor will allow you to do two things: adjust thermal throttling and adjust max GPU/CPU frequencies. I always reduced the max GPU frequency on this phone to lower the temps and adjusted thermal throttling to 55 C. The only CPU adjustments I did were to make sure the CPU wasn't overclocked.
4) I know you said it wasn't a rouge app, but get a task viewer (this is a good one) just to make sure (I had Nova taking 25% CPU usage in the background because I restored it from TiBu).
I saw your post in the NSeven thread and decided to respond, but please in the future try not to post errors in other threads unless you have the issue in that ROM. It sounds like you might have the same issue in that ROM as well, but you didn't say so in your post.

Well first of all I would like to say thank you! I have been hoping for a while that someone would have some knowledge on the subject and I very much appreciate yours. Secondly, I apologize and I will try to refrain from posting the wrong thing in the wrong area in the future. Thirdly I have kernel auditor when I changed their frequencies on my CPU cores they just change right back. If I set a minimum it will stay but then if I try to set a maximum it resets them both to the default setting. I will turn my other course back on though thank you for that information do you have any idea why I may be having this frequency issue?

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Well first of all I would like to say thank you! I have been hoping for a while that someone would have some knowledge on the subject and I very much appreciate yours. Secondly, I apologize and I will try to refrain from posting the wrong thing in the wrong area in the future. Thirdly I have kernel auditor when I changed their frequencies on my CPU cores they just change right back. If I set a minimum it will stay but then if I try to set a maximum it resets them both to the default setting. I will turn my other course back on though thank you for that information do you have any idea why I may be having this frequency issue?
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You're welcome, and no worries for the post . As for your third point it would be really helpful if you tell me what you're running.
Could you list: kernel, ROM, root method, Android version, and any kernel mods (govtuner, skynet, etc)?
Also, does the same thing happen when you set a GPU max frequency? Have you tried having the settings run on boot and then reboot the phone?

Yes I have tried that a couple of times I am currently running the nseven ROM with the CPU frequencies set at a minimum of 300 megahertz and a maximum of 1190 megahertz, or at least that's what I'm attempting to do LOL I have not tried changing the GPU Max frequency. The N7 ROM I believe is Android version 6.0.1. here is what I have tried
Wiping cache in recovery
Starting in safe mode
Factory resetting
Turning off certain settings such as WiFi calling, data Etc.
Using apps such as greenify to limit background processes.
Changing screen resolution to 720P
I actually installed this ROM hoping that it would make a difference because I have the same exact issue on the stock ROM before I ever unlock my bootloader or rooted my phone at all. And according to the sticker on the back of the phone it is not nor has it ever been water damaged. The picture I have attached shows my phone's activity just while writing this reply to you. In the bottom left-hand corner you can see the statistics. Sorry for the Inception lol

bucs9115 said:
Yes I have tried that a couple of times I am currently running the nseven ROM with the CPU frequencies set at a minimum of 300 megahertz and a maximum of 1190 megahertz, or at least that's what I'm attempting to do LOL I have not tried changing the GPU Max frequency. The N7 ROM I believe is Android version 6.0.1. here is what I have tried
Wiping cache in recovery
Starting in safe mode
Factory resetting
Turning off certain settings such as WiFi calling, data Etc.
Using apps such as greenify to limit background processes.
Changing screen resolution to 720P
I actually installed this ROM hoping that it would make a difference because I have the same exact issue on the stock ROM before I ever unlock my bootloader or rooted my phone at all. And according to the sticker on the back of the phone it is not nor has it ever been water damaged. The picture I have attached shows my phone's activity just while writing this reply to you. In the bottom left-hand corner you can see the statistics. Sorry for the Inception lol
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Since you're replying to both threads I'll keep my responses to your other Q&A thread to make life easier .