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I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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I charged mine up til it was 100%, then monitored the battery widget. It kept going at waveform like this for another hour and a half - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ - however as time went on, the peaks would be at lower and lower amplitudes. Eventually, the charging current decreased significantly, and there was an occasional spike every 5-10 min. At that point, I turned it off and let it charge for another hr or so. Rebooted (while still plugged in) into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted to the desktop. Once the phone was fully booted, I unplugged.
I can get a good 2 days with light usage, or a solid 1 day with heavy. There after, I charge it til green, then give it another 1.5-2 hrs more - You can tell by the battery widget when it actually stops charging.
Note, i'm not using an SBC based kernel.
What battery widget are you using?
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I just received my seidio 3500 extended battery and extended rugged case. What's the best way to charge it using the stock phone charger? I've seen alot and most reviews and threads recommend external charger. I don't want to have to deal with that and shell out more money. I don't remember the link but I've also seen how your supposed to charge while on till full then unplug, turn off the phone then charge while off for an hour turn back on for 2 minutes while unplugged again then charge again for another hour while turned off again. I'm new to the evo and extended batteries so any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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It's all bull man you dont really need an external charger. When I was in the process of getting my 3500 mah I was also preocuppied about the external charger, however I began to use and you really dont need it.
Just understand that when the 100% sign comes up and the green light turns on it's not really charged all the way, the phone can only recognize upto 1500 mah..if I remember correctly. You have to leave the phone plugged in for another hour or so for it to actually get it's full charge.
Even then, it will seem like it is not working because the battery will go from 100 to 90 in around 5 minutes ITS CRAZY!! But dont worry thats a fault on HTC's part. After that 90% mark the phone will have really good battery life. I usually get around 15 hours of heavy usage, extremely heavy trust me! If you just use it for phone calls and dont really use GPS and stuff you should get maybe a day and a half.
So dont worry about the external charger, it's not true. What I did when I first got the battery I charged it 100% let it drain all the way and then recharged it. This is just so the phone understand the capacity of the new battery. At first it may seem a bit "iffy" but dont worry it'll live upto it's potential.
Hope this helps. Later!
Thanks obloivior72,
I'm going to charge it up now and try it.
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Just remember let it sit for another hour after it says it's full, Actually leave it for 2 just to be safe. I can't emphasize this enough! Glad I was able to be of some help! Enjoy your new battery.
Graph looks something like this.
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Each tick mark on the X axis is 10 minutes. It took about 2 hrs to get the battery from 20% to 100%, then another good 90 minutes to really complete the charge (light green during this time).
Im using an SBC kernel. Its a little bit taboo on these forums right now but if you can get your hands one one it will def do the trick without jumping through hoops. Just read up on it first. Search the forums and do some reading about it before flashing. There's a lot of conflicting opinions on both sides about it so read about it then you decide.
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I looked into the sbc kernels but with the bad info and everything I cant make the jump. I charged for 2 hours after full so I'm going to test it now till it dies while running calkulins 1.7.7. I'll let everyone know how it goes. I appreciate all the tips. Hopefully this makes my evo complete.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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So far 18 1/2 hours unplugged with med usage and still 62% battery left.
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WHOA!!!! I told you!!! Thats awesome bro, congrats!
I'm stoked. Now I don't have to always take my charger with me.
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This is what Seido told me to do if it isn't charging adequately:
"Please try to fully drain the battery until the phone completely shuts off automatically and then charge with the OEM AC charger that came with your device. Repeat this process 3 consecutive times. This will recondition and also recycle battery usage for best performance.
Thank you,
Seidoonline Technical Support"
However, doing this when the battery is new really doesn't do any good. It would be useful after some time using it since these are "smart batteries".
Just charge it normally and should be good to go.
I bought new 3500 battery and I'm using sbc kernel. I am getting same use time as stock. Wtf is goin on?
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What sbc kernel are you using? I use nets 4.3 bfs sbc more havs and I get great battery life.
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Recalibrateb ur battery and wipe ur battery stats
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Recalibrateb ur battery and wipe ur battery stats
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This.
Also when it's green doesn't mean it's fully charged.
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I bought new 3500 battery and I'm using sbc kernel. I am getting same use time as stock. Wtf is goin on?
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theres 2 main questions, are you using sbc or a wall charger and two, who makes the battery
and if its a non-seidio, some of them just plain suck. i've bought 4 different ones from ebay/amazon only one actually works well after calibration and many cycles of usage.
I am usung netarchy sbc
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I have alao reset battery stats
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You need to condition your battery
I've been dealing with this for ever and I thin kI finally haqve a routine figured out that is getting me CM7 like battery life on a Sense ROM.
1st, I've had the Sedio 3500 for a few months, and like you, I was getting ridiculous drain, until I started sdoing some reading and experimenting.
Here's what I do.
First, off, I have GPS, WIFI and Data disable all the time, unless I need one of them, and then I turn off again when I'm done. I keep my screen off all the time, unless I'm using the phone. I also only use minimal widgets. Calender, Fany Widgets Weather and Forcast, Messages widget, the Beautiful toggle widget for silence and my MIUI Music player on 3 screens, using Rosie. The other 4 screens are just empty.
Second, as for the battery itself, charge the phone for about 8 hrs, and this is the HTC method, unplug it, turn it off, and charge it for another hour, while off.
Unplug it, turn it on for 2 minutes, then power down and plug it in for another hour.
Now, before powering I up, I do the Hoodoo-voodoo-like 10 time unplug thing.
Basically, unplug, light goes off. Plug it in, light is red, wait til it turns green, unplug it and do this 10 times.
Reboot to recovery, wipe battery stats, power up, all while plugged in, and once fully booted, unplug.
I did this today, using the new Koni 3, with Netarchy 4.3.2 SBC HAVS, and riding then used the phone pretty steadily to play Klondike, text, etc an an hour later was just dropping to 99%.
THAT is pretty good, compared to what it used to be like, when it would drop about 1 percentile per minute, even when it was in sleep mode.
Reconditioning is not going to work when you buy a crappy battery. Someone said voodo? You're kidding, right?
Please understand there is no regulation that prevents people from stating their cheap batteries on eBay are 9800mAh but only providing 1000.
I bought 1500mAh eBay batteries that are only 900mAh, verified with equipment.
Check www.batteryboss.org to see what I'm talking about.
Best thing to do? Buy a $1 battery wall charger, two OEM/non-generic htc batteries and carry in your wallet. I wouldn't be surprised if your 3500mAh battery actually packs less juice than the original battery. Oh and your phone is looking like a brick for nothing.
yeah this is why i asked, if you bought a very cheap extended battery, well its rating is different than what it is providing you with
I think I have battery problems solved; Just turn Data off when you're not using it. My phone has been off the charger since Friday night @ 6:30pm. Now it's Sunday @ 9:30am. That's 39 hours and I'm sitting at 63% and I've been texting, making calls, playing a few games, and anytime I need data, I just turn it back on til I'm done and then back off again. That's the only thing I'm doing different now, and before I made that little change, my battery was a good or bad as anyone else's
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I think I have battery problems solved; Just turn Data off when you're not using it. My phone has been off the charger since Friday night @ 6:30pm. Now it's Sunday @ 9:30am. That's 39 hours and I'm sitting at 63% and I've been texting, making calls, playing a few games, and anytime I need data, I just turn it back on til I'm done and then back off again. That's the only thing I'm doing different now, and before I made that little change, my battery was a good or bad as anyone else's
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When I am home, I have WiFi enabled all the time, no 3G/4G. I heard WiFi is better(with good signal) for your battery than 3G enabled. Is this true? My battery lasts about 7-8 hrs of moderate-heavy usage.
Also, here's a thing with all of you trying to tweak your battery to get best performance. From my own experience, I am never a step or two away from a charger be it while I'm on my computer at work, at home or in the car. So what good is it to have the phone out of the charger for days?
I understand WiFI is better, too, from what I've read.
Also, if I can find it, I found a thread on androidfrums from htc that recommends you let your battery drain to below 50% before charging it.
Like you, I have chargers all over, so it's not a big deal, but to be at where I am now, with this experiment on turning data off is simply amazing to me.
Almost 42 hours and at 59%
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Almost 42 hours and at 59%
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That is definitely a huge performance improvement but I wonder what's happening with all your apps that need the data sync in the background. I have apps like Pulse, Facebook, K9, Handcent, etc that update every couple of hours or have "push" enabled. What is the trick to allow 3g, 4g, wifi to be enabled automatically only when sync is required and then disabled?
Good question.
All I use is the weather bug and Fany Widgets weather, ad far as widgets that need updating. I think, once they try to update and can't connect, they "freeze" for lack of a better word, until you reconnect and manually update.
It's a little bit of a pain, but for this kind've battery life, I'm not gonna complain
I think what would work is an app that puts the phone in "Airplane Mode" (bad Moment memories ), but allows the calls to come thru. This way there's absolutely no Internet traffic but your Evo is still usable as a phone.
That's probably, basically what I'm doing, but like you, coming from the Moment, Airplane Mode is a bad word....
Fully charged my LTE Nexus while it was on and then fully charged while it was off. Restarted the phone, haven't done anything with it in 30 mins and it's already down 4% to 96%. What's the deal?!?!?
Someone said in another thread... if you look at your Android System usage in the battery meter, its way too high... sounds like a bug - apparently a custom kernel has fixed this, but I havent rooted yet to test it.
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Fully charged my LTE Nexus while it was on and then fully charged while it was off. Restarted the phone, haven't done anything with it in 30 mins and it's already down 4% to 96%. What's the deal?!?!?
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Check here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387243
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Although I prefer the GN, laptopmag.com found that the Rezound and RAZR have clear advantages when it comes to web surfing time on 4G. GSM GN wasn't too impressive either.
"On the LAPTOP Battery Test (web surfing over 4G on 40-percent brightness), the Galaxy Nexus lasted just 3 hours and 40 minutes. That's a full 3 hours less than the smartphone average (6:38), and about 1:20 less than the unlocked Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile's network. By comparison, the HTC Rezound lasted 5:03 and the Droid RAZR lasted 4:48. Verizon Nexus owners may want to turn off 4G when they don't really need it or find other ways to conserve juice."
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-nexus-verizon-wireless.aspx
After just a couple days mine is doing just fine. I'm at 18 hours right now with 23% left. You have to condition the battery always.
Mine did the same thing as they always do. I only got 4 hours first full charge. After 2 more full cycles it's great!
Storm T said:
After just a couple days mine is doing just fine. I'm at 18 hours right now with 23% left. You have to condition the battery always.
Mine did the same thing as they always do. I only got 4 hours first full charge. After 2 more full cycles it's great!
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I forget this every time I get a new phone!! It's odd considering I load roms very, very frequently on whatever phone I have at the time and I know I have to wait a couple of battery cycles for battery life to get acceptable with any new rom, but I can't seem to remember it with a new phone!
I'm going to chill and wait and see.
Also, let it die completely and then charge it up 100000% (leave it charging overnight if you can). This is a good way to "train" the battery.
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I forget this every time I get a new phone!! It's odd considering I load roms very, very frequently on whatever phone I have at the time and I know I have to wait a couple of battery cycles for battery life to get acceptable with any new rom, but I can't seem to remember it with a new phone!
I'm going to chill and wait and see.
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Oh yeah, that will work for you. Mine is up to 20 hours now and 14% left.
20 hours of standby show me screen time 3 hours of screen time it's really bad
Im at 39% with around 2:55 screen on... I am on wifi right now though
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For me that's bad 3 hours damm
z06mike said:
Also, let it die completely and then charge it up 100000% (leave it charging overnight if you can). This is a good way to "train" the battery.
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Do NOT do this whatever you do. You should never completely drain a Li-Ion battery except when calibrating it after flashing a rom. Draining li-ion batteries hurts its battery life.
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For me that's bad 3 hours damm
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How much u get?
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edgeicator said:
Do NOT do this whatever you do. You should never completely drain a Li-Ion battery except when calibrating it after flashing a rom. Draining li-ion batteries hurts its battery life.
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Ok, so should he do it or not? You say not to unless you're calibrating.
Well, that's what the other poster is talking about. "training" = calibrating.
It doesn't harm a thing letting them drain all the way to the point of the phone shutting down. I've been doing this for all my phones, new roms, etc. I always end up with excellent battery life.
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It doesn't harm a thing letting them drain all the way to the point of the phone shutting down. I've been doing this for all my phones, new roms, etc. I always end up with excellent battery life.
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Sorry, but you are wrong.
Deep discharges do "harm" a LiIon battery physically (there is damage done to the membranes in the battery at a molecular level).
You will get about ~500 full (deep) discharges from your battery, but you will get more than double of that if you only discharge to 50% and more if you discharge even less. So the best thing is to charge your LiIon cell as often as possible, with the exception that it's also not healthy for the cell to be at full charge voltage (4.20 V) for a prolonged time either.
Yikes. You people with good battery life are lucky haha. I'm on my 6th charge and I still get around an hour and forty minutes of battery life. I'm at like 50% after an hour or so... and that's with LTE off too...
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This thread is redundant, please continue the conversation in one of the older battery life threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386201
I've had this phone for about a month. Started off on stock, and rooted it and flashed different ROMs and kernels. I never really got good battery life with any ROM. Typically I would get around 7 to 10 hours of moderate usage.
I fully went back to stock firmware and kernel using ODIN, to flash 2.3.6. I rooted it and removed some bloatware apps. BUT, the battery life seems so bad.. it's been 2 days, I've done calibration 2 or 3 times.
Leaving my phone idle, in one spot, I lose about 4-5% an hour. 4G Data on, wifi off, 2/4 bars of signal, sync on (only gmail, google docs, contacts, calendar).
But today, I think it got worse, as shown here: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-230121.png
Graph: http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-230126.png
Note: the data icon on top shows that it's on 3G, because I moved out of good signal area when I took the screenshots. The phone was idle in a spot with 4G getting 3-5mbps.
What's wrong with this? The phone is a month old, so I don't think it's a battery problem. I've calibrated 2-3 times since I went back to stock.
Also, don't recommend me to use Juice Defender. I use Google Voice to call and text, so I need data on all the time. And I know this phone can last over a day with data on (my friend has the same phone and it has lasted 2 days on one charge, completely stock firmware).
ALSO, when I press "Android System" on the battery history, here's a list of what it shows:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-231629.png
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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f380/wordk4/SC20120319-231651.png
IS THIS NORMAL? :O
8-10 hours heavy usage? That seems like a lot...
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Sensation-al! said:
8-10 hours heavy usage? That seems like a lot...
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Actually that would be more of light/medium. Checking facebook every 30mins, a few texts now and then, playing a game for 30 minutes, listening to music for an hour, a call or two about 2mins each, a few instant messages on facebook, GPS use for 5 minutes, and idle for about 5 hours. Brightness at 50% or below. All on data connection, no wifi.
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Actually that would be more of light/medium. Checking facebook every 30mins, a few texts now and then, playing a game for 30 minutes, listening to music for an hour, a call or two about 2mins each, a few instant messages on facebook, GPS use for 5 minutes, and idle for about 5 hours. Brightness at 50% or below. All on data connection, no wifi.
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Well what do you think is suppose to happen when you USE your phone? Lol
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cashyftw said:
Well what do you think is suppose to happen when you USE your phone? Lol
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I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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I see easily over 12 hours on a charge with my phone, and i use it heavily... 2 to 3 hours of phone time (at the least) wifi tether here and then, a lot of facebook iming and checking. Reading....
Something i noticed though. I got the phone in October or so, and the battery life started off pretty bad. I didnt do anything special, i figured it would be bad with such a massive screen. Over time though the battery improved, and now im seeing wonderful battery life. I usually unplug it at about 6:30 or so in the morning when i head to work, and yesterday at 10-something is when it started *****ing it had low battery life.
Moral of the story? Be patient, itll get better as time goes by.
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I know, but overall the time the display is on is 1-2 hours.. I know other people have been getting 16+ hours, 4 being with display on. With 4G data on.
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Your battery looks fine. Playing games rapes the battery. Also 4g rapes the battery.
There are ways to improve the battery but like you said... You need to use all of these features.
Go get a spare oem battery or a reputable extended battery.
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Im at 52% right now, 34% display, time on 3 hours 14 minutes, and sitting at 1d 1h 39m on battery. Light usage.
Something is definitely draining your battery. As you can see your phone is awake when the screen isn't even on. It's just likely an app you downloaded or something in the background. good luck narrowing it down
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Teo032 said:
Something is definitely draining your battery. As you can see your phone is awake when the screen isn't even on. It's just likely an app you downloaded or something in the background. good luck narrowing it down
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Lol way to back up your answer.
His battery is fine...
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G1ForFun said:
Your battery looks fine. Playing games rapes the battery. Also 4g rapes the battery.
There are ways to improve the battery but like you said... You need to use all of these features.
Go get a spare oem battery or a reputable extended battery.
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Just right now i'm on a bus and lost 5% in less than 10 minutes. Listening to music. All i did was send five texts, check Facebook for a minute and read the posts on this thread. That doesn't seem normal at all. 4G on, sync on.
blackangst said:
Im at 52% right now, 34% display, time on 3 hours 14 minutes, and sitting at 1d 1h 39m on battery. Light usage.
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this is more than what I'm expecting, but definitely shows that something is wrong with my battery life.
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I see easily over 12 hours on a charge with my phone, and i use it heavily... 2 to 3 hours of phone time (at the least) wifi tether here and then, a lot of facebook iming and checking. Reading....
Something i noticed though. I got the phone in October or so, and the battery life started off pretty bad. I didnt do anything special, i figured it would be bad with such a massive screen. Over time though the battery improved, and now im seeing wonderful battery life. I usually unplug it at about 6:30 or so in the morning when i head to work, and yesterday at 10-something is when it started *****ing it had low battery life.
Moral of the story? Be patient, itll get better as time goes by.
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You give me some hope. I recently ordered an Anker 2050mAh battery for this, hopefully that will help in the meanwhile.
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xFrozen said:
You give me some hope. I recently ordered an Anker 2050mAh battery for this, hopefully that will help in the meanwhile.
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2050mAh wouldn't get you to much more out of thr battery..
Only 200mAh over stock, hows this supposed to help if you have a sleep mode issue or app issue?
Bringz me back to my first statement.
Your kernel is NOT allowing deep sleep mode for whatever reason, your best bet would be make a backup
Delete data/factory reset and try it over a day.. if it works good, its an app issue, still the same. It is undoubtedly the kernel. Why pay more for maybe an hour out of your phone?
Run some actual tests to clarify the issue first..
There. I said my peace
If you tried everything else try recalibrating the battery.
I have seen this happen most often when flashing new ROMs. Especially if you did not wipe your system, data, and caches before install it seems to encourage this.
To Recalibrate Battery (must have custom recovery like cwm):
Charge phone to FULL
(I highly recommend AC charger for this)
Reboot into recovery
Look for wipe battery stats (should be I'm advanced if not main menu)
Unplug phone and restart it
Now FULLY KILL THE BATTERY
(for faster results set mp3 or video on repeat and let her rip)
Fully charge one more time and done
(again I highly suggest AC adaptor)
Keep in mind if you set your CPU to Max frequency or leave a demanding app running and CPU is set to allow full usage ondemand or performance the phone will kill battery very quickly.
Same if you leave antenna on auto 4G and it is weak around you and phone is always searching it will go fast as well.
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xFrozen: have you downloaded cpuspy to actually see if your phone is hitting deep sleep?
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If you tried everything else try recalibrating the battery.
I have seen this happen most often when flashing new ROMs. Especially if you did not wipe your system, data, and caches before install it seems to encourage this.
To Recalibrate Battery (must have custom recovery like cwm):
Charge phone to FULL
(I highly recommend AC charger for this)
Reboot into recovery
Look for wipe battery stats (should be I'm advanced if not main menu)
Unplug phone and restart it
Now FULLY KILL THE BATTERY;
(for faster results set mp3 or video on repeat and let her rip)
Fully charge one more time and done
(again I highly suggest AC adaptor)
Keep in mind if you set your CPU to Max frequency or leave a demanding app running and CPU is set to allow full usage ondemand or performance the phone will kill battery very quickly.
Same if you leave antenna on auto 4G and it is weak around you and phone is always searching it will go fast as well.
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You sir, are a n00b, calibrating the battery is useless to this device and actually done automaticly.
So your post is useless and rather a waste of everyones time even reading. So thanks.
@above
Its obviously not hitting deep sleep, there's no way it can be and be draining the battery this quick.
@OP
As suggested above use cpuspy to check on the cpu when idle,
Sleep mode should kick in within 30sec to a minute.
Also chek my reply a few posts up and follow steps there..
Ignore Realn00b's post
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@Realn00b
Please take the time to read up on batterystats.bin and find out what its for,
You don't need cwm to delete, just root explorer.. its in:
Data/system/batterystats.bin
Also, the entire basis of this is stupidity and was takin way out of context.
Batterystats is used to cache the active information of running applications (uptime/cpu usage, etc. NOT battery percents)
And should only be deleted under very very rare occasions (effecting above)
Your battery percent, is actually the mAh
Your system collects the information from a chip on the battery, among the information read, max mAh and current mAh.
The device then calculates from these the value we know as the percent.
Meaning, no device with a lithium ion battery stores charge information for the battery, making the entire purpose of your post for this, or ANY device not only useless, but also a little pathetic considering you would actually try to post a tip on something you are obviously completely uneducated about.
Please don't provide tips unless you are 100% sure of the situation and are actually educated on the material. Thanks
doug36 said:
2050mAh wouldn't get you to much more out of thr battery..
Only 200mAh over stock, hows this supposed to help if you have a sleep mode issue or app issue?
Bringz me back to my first statement.
Your kernel is NOT allowing deep sleep mode for whatever reason, your best bet would be make a backup
Delete data/factory reset and try it over a day.. if it works good, its an app issue, still the same. It is undoubtedly the kernel. Why pay more for maybe an hour out of your phone?
Run some actual tests to clarify the issue first..
There. I said my peace
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I originally purchased it for two reasons:
1. For long trips or for when I'll be gaming a lot
2. It had no reviews, so I figured I should buy it and test it. It's cheap anyways, $11.
Also, I'm on stock kernel. Everything stock + rooted.
I just did a re-flash with ODIN, so it has all the bloatware back on. I rooted and installed most of the main apps I use (facebook, aim, xda, google apps, games, basic things).
Currently I have sync on for Google contacts, calendar, and gmail. Facebook syncs with existing google contacts. T-Mobile contact sync off. Dropbox auto uploads camera photos on wifi only (I rarely take photos).
It's charging right now, at 50%. I might not have time to leave it idle today, so I could try in the morning if I have time.
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I originally purchased it for two reasons:
1. For long trips or for when I'll be gaming a lot
2. It had no reviews, so I figured I should buy it and test it. It's cheap anyways, $11.
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Yea your right that is a good price.. is it same size as stock and have NFC? can you post link?
Thanks.
And please excuse realn00b up there..
He didn't know wat he was talking about.. read my post below it if you want an explanation.
Take a look at the safe to remove apps list aswell I'll see if I can find it on google pages for you. I definitely recommend
Deleting unndeeded applications and even replace stock with third party where applicable.
doug36 said:
Yea your right that is a good price.. is it same size as stock and have NFC? can you post link?
Thanks.
And please excuse realn00b up there..
He didn't know wat he was talking about.. read my post below it if you want an explanation.
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1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078WL4YO (i ordered this)
2. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Batteries-Skyrocket-SGH-I727-Multi-purpose/dp/B0078WR4KW/ (even better deal!)
xFrozen said:
1. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078WL4YO (i ordered this)
2. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Batteries-Skyrocket-SGH-I727-Multi-purpose/dp/B0078WR4KW/ (even better deal!)
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Thanks!
That is a good deal.. doesn't say if it has NFC though, got some tags comming now
So definitely want that lol xD i dont want one of those bulky ass ones though
I let my phone completely die last night because I wanted to get a full charge on this thing. I wake up this morning, and after 4 minutes, it had gone down 4%. It has now been 7, and it's down 7%. Anything I can do?
PS, it is now down to 90%.
Running Calk's rooted FC15 with ics4ics theme and the lockscreen mod.
88% now.
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How long have you been on that setup? I know my first couple of %s go quick but after that everything settles down. Do you have location services on by any chance?
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JohnCorleone said:
How long have you been on that setup? I know my first couple of %s go quick but after that everything settles down. Do you have location services on by any chance?
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Been on it since Sunday. Location services are not enabled. Yesterday I noticed it had gone down faster than before, battery only lasted just over 8 hours with minimal use, but the wifi kept disconnecting, as did the 3g when wifi was off (this didn't happen in gingerbread).
I wonder if I don't need a new battery. I have noticed battery performance getting worse and worse over the past couple weeks.
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Been on it since Sunday. Location services are not enabled. Yesterday I noticed it had gone down faster than before, battery only lasted just over 8 hours with minimal use, but the wifi kept disconnecting, as did the 3g when wifi was off (this didn't happen in gingerbread).
I wonder if I don't need a new battery. I have noticed battery performance getting worse and worse over the past couple weeks.
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I would take your battery and have it checked at Sprint. They will replace it for free if it's bad. My battery gets better after a day or two. I lose 2-3% while asleep on wifi and regularly get 4-6 hours of screen on time depending on how I use my phone. Did you check your wifi sleep policy?
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Check what accounts you have setup, and if anything is syncing.
Goggle+, dropbox, and other applications have auto picture sync options which will KILL your battery.
Also location services in google or westher applications, and as always poor signal or no signal.
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neudof said:
Check what accounts you have setup, and if anything is syncing.
Goggle+, dropbox, and other applications have auto picture sync options which will KILL your battery.
Also location services in google or westher applications, and as always poor signal or no signal.
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Yeah, I forgot to mention the sync options. That taxes the battery big time
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Sync is always turned off.
Well, I tried something: pulling the battery for a minute, then when back in, plugging it into the charger. I would give me a false full battery light, because when I unplugged, it showed 90%, and it kept doing this every percentage point, so I kept unplugging and plugging until it showed 100%. Well, 10 minutes have past, and it hasn't budged. So I'm chalking this up to false battery stats.
Thanks for your suggestions!
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Sync is always turned off.
Well, I tried something: pulling the battery for a minute, then when back in, plugging it into the charger. I would give me a false full battery light, because when I unplugged, it showed 90%, and it kept doing this every percentage point, so I kept unplugging and plugging until it showed 100%. Well, 10 minutes have past, and it hasn't budged. So I'm chalking this up to false battery stats.
Thanks for your suggestions!
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Yeah, I was going to mention wiping the battery stats but I figured someone would say that does nothing. I always do it when I set up a new ROM even though some do it on install
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How many apps do you have installed? Could be a rogue app in backround eating your battery up.
Also with wifi/3g constantly disconnecting also taxes that battery juice faster then a constant steady signal.
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FYI, I am having this same problem on the same ROM for the last couple days. I thought I had isolated it to a problem with having USB debugging running when charging from the computer but that's not it either. Last couple days battery is draining so fast that I lose charge while plugged in! Have to charge from wall plug to get an increase in battery. I am having Android OS AND Android System at the top of my battery stats eating 35% and 34% respectively. Clealry not due to syncing or email checks or anything similar as this is the exact same setup I have been running for months (other than the upgrade to Calk's ICS ROM). I'm baffled....
Install these 3 apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
This app will tell you what is holding wake locks on your device. Anything over 30 minutes over the course of a day would be problematic imo. But it depends on what you have installed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
This will tell you how much time your processor spends at each clock speed. Deep Sleep should be close to 80% with moderate use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain
This will show you your percent per hour usage of battery. It's optional, but it helps me debug battery use. Typically I run 3-6% per hour with moderate usage.
orb360 said:
Install these 3 apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
This app will tell you what is holding wake locks on your device. Anything over 30 minutes over the course of a day would be problematic imo. But it depends on what you have installed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
This will tell you how much time your processor spends at each clock speed. Deep Sleep should be close to 80% with moderate use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain
This will show you your percent per hour usage of battery. It's optional, but it helps me debug battery use. Typically I run 3-6% per hour with moderate usage.
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Thanks for that. Will give this a shot. Something is clearly running like crazy in he background...
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dr_gibberish said:
Thanks for that. Will give this a shot. Something is clearly running like crazy in he background...
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So it figures, downloaded those apps, rebooted the phone and now its not happening anymore. This has been the problem the last couple days, its intermittent so I keep thinking I've figured out what's wrong and then it happens again. I'm thinking about going back to Gingerbread or trying one of the AOSP roms to see if the problem persists...
I noticed FC15 has the worst battery of all the leaks so far. It a joke shouldn't have even been sent to sprint for testing.
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Since my "fix" I'm at 85%. Been off the charger since 6am. It is 10:30 now.
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MikeC84 said:
I noticed FC15 has the worst battery of all the leaks so far. It a joke shouldn't have even been sent to sprint for testing.
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Gonna have to disagree with you there, maybe you have a bad flash. I'm getting an average of 16 hours with fairly heavy usage. FC15 has been fantastic, no issues whatsoever.
Im having kinda the same problem. I just had to get my rooted phone replaced yesterday not that it matters it was rooted I had no roms or nothing on it just rooted at the time, but my battery was fine. I got a white one I havent rooted or nothing yet and battery is going fast. I kept the battery from the previous phone. I was looking through appbrain and seen the app "bad ass battery monitor" and my kernal is killing my battery as of today.
Argghhh Bricked it!
Tried going back to Gingerbread and hard bricked the phone! 5 years on android and four different phones and this is the first time I really truly bricked. Blue led on and not a thing else.
Well I guess getting a new phone is one way to get back to Gingerbread.... For now, I'm sporting a cutting edge Blackberry tour!
Why is this phone so easy to brick? I've had 4 other Android phones and I see more bricked posts for the e4gt than all the others combined...
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orb360 said:
Why is this phone so easy to brick? I've had 4 other Android phones and I see more bricked posts for the e4gt than all the others combined...
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Before the ICS leaks, this phone was virtually unbrickable. Once we get the ICS source and the recovery issues are sorted out it will be that way again. If you stay clear of wiping individual partitions and follow directions in OP you are safe
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Mine has been horrible and have no idea why. I haven't changed apps or anything from previous installs or settings but Android OS loves to eat 50% of my battery which is a good 25% higher than normal.