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First off, thanks for all the help so far, this site is the best!
I just rooted my Evo using the unrevoked3. Had a little bit of trouble, nothing major, and overall it was a success. I also installed ROM Manager and Titanium Backup, based on suggestions found here.
The problem is, I'm not quite getting how to flash the roms... I downloaded one through ROM manager, and it seemed to work, but I didn't notice a single thing different. I tried to install CyanogenMod, and it downloaded, but it would always fail during the install.
I tried downloading on my computer, then moving the .zip file to my sdcard. Then I select "install rom from sdcard" and everything seems to go ok, I end up having to go into recovery and "rollback" my phone to the stock rom, because twice now I've almost bricked my phone.
Really, what I'm wanting is a setup like that "Kuma Style" one (without the animal), and a different bootscreen. I have spent a lot of time searching around, and it seems simple enough, I just seem to be missing some integral part of the proccess.....
Any help is appreciated!
Mark_Hardware said:
First off, thanks for all the help so far, this site is the best!
I just rooted my Evo using the unrevoked3. Had a little bit of trouble, nothing major, and overall it was a success. I also installed ROM Manager and Titanium Backup, based on suggestions found here.
The problem is, I'm not quite getting how to flash the roms... I downloaded one through ROM manager, and it seemed to work, but I didn't notice a single thing different. I tried to install CyanogenMod, and it downloaded, but it would always fail during the install.
I tried downloading on my computer, then moving the .zip file to my sdcard. Then I select "install rom from sdcard" and everything seems to go ok, I end up having to go into recovery and "rollback" my phone to the stock rom, because twice now I've almost bricked my phone.
Really, what I'm wanting is a setup like that "Kuma Style" one (without the animal), and a different bootscreen. I have spent a lot of time searching around, and it seems simple enough, I just seem to be missing some integral part of the proccess.....
Any help is appreciated!
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I am not familiar with Unrevoked, but just running unrevoked doesn't completely root your phone. You need to do the second parts of rooting which unlocks nand.
Ah, so there is more to do. Maybe that's the problem then.... *off in search of how to unlock nand
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Ah, so there is more to do. Maybe that's the problem then.... *off in search of how to unlock nand
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Unlocking nand just unlocks something so that you can save full image backups. That wouldn't lead to your phone not installing a ROM right, it's just something you'll want just in case things go wrong. So still finish the root and get nand. But that's not what you're missing here.
Possible error: Did you wipe settings &factory reset and wipe cache in ClockworkMod before flashing the ROM? I think that could lead to some problems.
Try flashing the alternative Amon Ra recovery through rom manager (will state that rom manager won't be fully functional unless clockworkmod is installed) and loading the roms onto the sd card then reboot into recovery. Amon Ra seems to work better imo than clockworkmod. When you're talking about something like "kuma style," those are themes that are usually flashable in recovery also. The boot animation could alse be flashable in recovery but if not, there are instructions on how to adb push custom ones onto your phone.
rugedraw said:
I am not familiar with Unrevoked, but just running unrevoked doesn't completely root your phone. You need to do the second parts of rooting which unlocks nand.
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just fyi, the latest unrevoked (3.21) unlocks nand so u dont need to do it.
"unrevoked3 will permanently unlock NAND write protection by default on the following phones:
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Sprint EVO 4G"
i'd link the wiki but i cant cuz i'm a new user lol
Gah! So I downloaded the enamored theme, moved it to the sd card, then went to ROM Manager and selected "Reboot into Recovery"and selected the enamored.zip. It said the install was a success, but when I rebooted, the phone stuck on the bootanimation. I tried restarting a couple times, but it always gets stuck in the same place.
I booted into recovery (if thats waht you call the hold the volume button down while pushing the power button trick), and selected recover, then nandroid, then a time under yesterdays date. Phone recovered fine.
WtH am I doing wrong? I realize I am way out of my league, but I'm not completely retarded. Again, GAH!
Are u wiping data and cache when flashing a ROM? I have been stuck at the CM6 boot animation when coming from a different Rom and not wiping.
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Gah! So I downloaded the enamored theme, moved it to the sd card, then went to ROM Manager and selected "Reboot into Recovery"and selected the enamored.zip. It said the install was a success, but when I rebooted, the phone stuck on the bootanimation. I tried restarting a couple times, but it always gets stuck in the same place.
I booted into recovery (if thats waht you call the hold the volume button down while pushing the power button trick), and selected recover, then nandroid, then a time under yesterdays date. Phone recovered fine.
WtH am I doing wrong? I realize I am way out of my league, but I'm not completely retarded. Again, GAH!
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When you flash a theme, it could take up to 2-5 minutes to finish. This occurs during the boot animation. I flash themes all the time and I notice it's usually around 2-3 minutes wait. Maybe faster for others but that's just been my experience. If it's over 5 minutes than there's probably something wrong with your zip file or maybe clockworkmod recovery doesn't flash it properly. Also, it could be an issue with the kernel you're using...I noticed on kingklick cfs #10, I was stuck on boot animation for about 7 minutes and so I reverted back to the stock kernel and the theme was applied within 3 minutes.
ok, apparently I've been missing that step...
where do I do that again?
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When you flash a theme, it could take up to 2-5 minutes to finish. This occurs during the boot animation. I flash themes all the time and I notice it's usually around 2-3 minutes wait. Maybe faster for others but that's just been my experience. If it's over 5 minutes than there's probably something wrong with your zip file or maybe clockworkmod recovery doesn't flash it properly.
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I waited a good long time. Am I at least headed in the right direction? Sorry to sound whiny, it's just that there's a few little things I want to do, and I'm intimidated as hell by actually doing any command line, so I'm hoping to avoid that- aka riding someone else's coattails
First, which rom are you using and is it stock or custom kernel? Are you using clockworkmod recovery? Try flashing the alternative amon ra recovery in rom manager then boot into recovery and apply your selected theme.
if you are using a stock rom it must say stock 2.2 deodexed
if it is not a deodexed rom.. of any kind.. then themes will say they flashed but they will either brick your phone or not work at all.
and stop using clockwork.... just use amon ra
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I could be way off here, but I've seen some people who rooted using unrevoked, and run into trouble flashing things (or maybe I'm thinking of trouble with terminal commands) and it turned out they couldn't find flash_image anywhere in there SD card, Which should be installed (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).
I saw a lot of reports of this in chainsDDs superuser thread, if I remember correctly. They had to install flash_image.img (which is a file available on toasts part 2 root tutorial)
I obviously could be wrong about this, I've never used unrevoked, I rooted via toast, and his method included everything.
@ V_lestat
Thanks for the heads up about themes having the ability to brick your phone if not deodexed, I never knew that. I flash roms and kernels a lotbut never messed with themes much.
At OP, have a look at virus Rom thread. It's a great ROM, and he has built some different themes to go with it. Beautiful stuff, great ROM, great thread.
Good luck
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See, some people say use clockwork, some people say Amon.
I looked around a lot beforehand, and people kept saying to use unrevoked, so I did. Now people say I should have used Toast?
Thanks for everybodies help so far, I am reading everything and taking it all in.
I Don't Mean to add any Confusion to your situation. I am new to this also.. I went with unrevoked also and when I booted into recovery with clockwork mod. I did a nand back up first to make sure if anything went wrong I could just boot back into recovery and load my backup. Then I wiped my Data & Davlick Cache all of the caches. Then I installed my Rom and it worked like a charm. I will add it did take about 5 to 7 mins to boot only on the first time though. I hope that helps some as to the process and what to do first don't give up XDA rocks with the smartest mind on the planet.
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ok, apparently I've been missing that step...
where do I do that again?
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If you are using ROM Manager to "install zip from card" it presents you with a dialog with two unchecked check boxes. One of them is "wipe data + cache". make sure you check it before hitting ok on that dialog.
If you are manually booting into recovery then in the recovery choices you will see one that says wipe data and one thats says wipe davlik cache. first do a nandroid back up then wipe those data and davlik then install the rom. By the way are you just installing a theme or a full rom that might be the issue i am just wondering maybe a senior member can help on wether you can install a theme over a rooted stock theme or not?
Success!
I went into ROM Manager, backed up current ROM, went into recovery manually, wiped the cache, then installed from zip, and it worked! I tried a cool theme I found, and I like it, but it seemed old. I just installed fresh, and the enamored theme, and all is working great!
A couple more questions,
1) how do I get my contacts back?
2) How do I get my apps back onto my phone? I have them backed up on appbrain, but I haven't been able to find how to get them back to the phone.
So far, I've tried a couple of ROM's (and/or themes) and I've ended up flashing back to my own "safe" one, until I figure these two things out.
A tremendous thanks to everyones help! I seriously couldn't have done it without you guys
Edit; Oh yeah, one other thing. How do I delete the other nand backups? There's like 5, and I need to free up some memory. I tried going in and selecting one to see if it gave me the option to delete, but I didn't see anywhere that it did.... Got it. Search feature to the rescue
help with flashing myns 2.2
Hey guys I've been reading the threads for a while and finally decided to root my evo last night using unrevoked..I made a nandroid as well ad a ti backup. I download myns last night and I think I put it into the root if my SD card according to directions I found using astro. I keep on trying to flash the Rom from my recovery and it goes about 3/4 of the way then aborts and states E:can't symlink/system/bin/ then e: failures at line 15. Then finally symlink busybox system : xbin.. I have not partitioned my SD card yet since I have read places there is no need to.. if anyone could shed some light on this is really appreciate it..BTW I'm on stock froyo atm
Hey guys I've been reading the threads for a while and finally decided to root my evo last night using unrevoked..I made a nandroid as well ad a ti backup. I download myns last night on my phone and I think I put it into the root if my SD card according to directions I found using astro. I keep on trying to flash the Rom from my recovery and it goes about 3/4 of the way then aborts and states E:can't symlink/system/bin/ then e: failures at line 15. Then finally symlink busybox system : xbin.. I have not partitioned my SD card yet since I have read places there is no need to.. if anyone could shed some light on this is really appreciate it..BTW I'm on stock froyo atm
are you s-off, what recovery?
Could be a corrupt download so I would try to redownload the rom and then reinstall. But what hardware version and hboot do you have?
Yes s is on..and the recovery is clockwork..
Wrong section bud, don't post questions in here especially since you already posted in Q&A. But you need your S-OFF thats why your having problems.
definitely need s-off, but have you tried to DL it again?
yea i thought it might be on the wrong forum so i reposted it there after, i apologize. how do i get the s off. Im not very good at this.. im interested in alt his stuff but not very good yet..i thought when i rooted it would turn s off..and yea ive tried installing it several time with no luck and same error
in another thread someone told me that its not working bc im still s-on..how do i turn that off.. hardware version 0003
First, you need to verify whether s is on or off. To do this, power down your phone, and hold the volume down button while you power it back on. It will boot into a white screen with 3 Androids on skateboards at the bottom. The very first line at the top of the screen will indicate if s is off or on.
If you rooted with Unrevoked, s should be off. However, I believe that before you can flash custom roms, you need to unlock NAND by flashing the engineering SPL onto your phone. On the same screen where you see if s is on or off, it needs to say Hboot: 0.76.2000 on the second line. If it has any other version of the hboot, you will not be able to flash custom roms.
This is what I did 1 week ago when I rooted my girl's Evo (also a 0003):
1) Ran Unrevoked for root.
2) Installed ROM Manager to flash recoveries & TI for back-ups.
3) Put Myn's RLS 4 on root of SD, and tried to flash via recovery; got errors similar to yours.
4) Downloaded engineering spl and placed on root of SD
5) Went back into recovery and flashed the eng. spl (at this point, I tried to boot it and the phone had no rom and would loop at the white HTC EVO 4G screen).
6) Got the phone back in recovery by doing a battery pull, powering on while holding volume down, and selected recovery.
7) From the recovery, I flashed Myn's RLS 4, my favorite kernel, a custom boot screen, and then rebooted.
8) Opened a beer and relaxed.
Don't forget to wipe everything twice! Also, before you flash the eng. spl, make sure you go into ROM manager and use the option to "flash an alternate recovery" so you do everything with Amon recovery which does a better job wiping. However, with Amon you cannot navigate through all the folders on your SD card to find what you want to flash. All flashable files MUST be placed in a .zip format in the root of your SD card (meaning out in the open and NOT inside any folders)
I hate using ADB, and if you follow these steps precisely, you will not need it.
Good luck!
i will try what you say to do..im just nervous bc that sounds complicated with my limited computer skills..i just dont understand why s-on is still there..isnt that the point of rooting.. can i unroot and run unrevoked forever?..is there any difference ?
firmbiz94 said:
i will try what you say to do..im just nervous bc that sounds complicated with my limited computer skills..i just dont understand why s-on is still there..isnt that the point of rooting.. can i unroot and run unrevoked forever?..is there any difference ?
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Check your hboot version, and see what it is. If it is hboot 2.02, that is your problem. Unrevoked doesn't work (yet)with that hboot version. Currently, the only way to root that hboot version is the "boss" method. Can be found in the development section. You can check by doing the same thing the guy before mentioned, hold vol down, and power button together. Then you will see the version, at the bottom I think. When did you get your Evo? What hardware version are you? ( settings, about phone, hardware info) software info the same way, see if your build 3.29 or 3.30.
Edit: looks like the thread is now "like a pinecone" rather than "like a boss"
OP: Rooting does not turn s off. Root allows you to run programs that require root access. With root, you can run wireless tether, ROM Manager, Titanium back up, Shootme app for screen shots, etc.
However, to flash custom roms, you need to have NAND access and that is done by flashing the engineering hboot. You can find the engineering hboot here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=342668&d=1276481802
Like k2buckley, if you have the 2.02 hboot, you need to follow this root guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
It requires lots of ADB and this is for more advanced users. If you are going to try it, make sure your battery is completely charged before you start messing with it. I HIGHLY recommend you search YouTube for video tutorias on the root method you need to use and watch it from beginning to end (twice if you need to) to make sure this is something you feel you can do before you dive in.
Merged 2 threads.
I finaLly figured it out..I got frustrated and figured I'd flash unrevoked forever..I downloaded to SD card and flashed it..that turned nand off..then I flashed myns..and it worked..i couldn't believe it..thanks for your help guys..
I downloaded shootme to take a shot of my software to so you guys. But when I try to attach a file it doesn't do anything when I press search..anyways so far I really like the Rom and netarchy kernel..I think I'm gonna be addicted and flash often although I nandroid backed this one since I like it..any other suggestions for sense roms..I just want to have a blazing fast Evo..not sure if I wanna go aosp though..
This post was originally a question to see if I got all the steps correct. Now that I have completed the process myself I thought it would be better to update it so other noobs might benefit from it.
First of all:
I do not take credit for anything. This is just a list of all the steps I had to take to get my standard phone to a rooted state with a custom ROM (LeeDrOiD in my case). Almost every word you will read is copied from the tool-makers guides. I hyperlinked the programs to their pages because they deserve all the credit and because there is a wealth of information to be found there. My attempt is merely aimed to streamline it for easier reading. This doesn't excuse you from reading their guides and information!
You will be messing with the core of your phone and risk bricking it. If you don't know what bricking is you should not try to modify just yet. First understand what you are trying to do. Just messing about because someone told you it is "cool" could leave you with a dead phone and an hole in your wallet.
If something goes wrong, don't blame me nor anyone else who gave you information. I can only say that I did exactly what I wrote in this post and it worked for me.
Your actions = Your responsibility
Now that the serious part is over; let's start messing up our expensive communication devices.
When you start a process and it appears to lock your phone or make it non-responsive; WAIT! Do not try to interrupt by pulling the battery. Just have some patience and if nothing happens after, let's say, 30 minutes; go to the XDA forums and ask for advice in the threads created by the makers of the tools. You could ask here, but since I am just a noob myself you really don't want my advice.
I first downloaded all the files I needed and then disabled internet on my computer. This way I could turn of the virus scanner and firewall off safely. This was just to make sure those two programs would not interfere with anything.
All this was done on a pc with Win7 Pro 64-bit.
Requirements:
Windows XP SP2 or higher
.NET Framework 4.0
HTC Sync (or ADB drivers)
Desire HD with stock kernel (or Apache14's 1.0.7 / 1.1.4 Sense)
It will not work on 1.72.405.3 or higher build, or new radio. Downgrade first!!
Step by Step:
Getting Root
1. Install Visionary
2. Open Visionary and tap temproot, then attempt permroot now.
The phone will reboot.
Getting Radio S-Off
3. Connect your phone to a computer (make sure you have USB Debugging enabled.
Connect charge only!)
4. Install "Desire HD easy radio tool" on the computer, run it and choose the first option, click "Do it"!
There may be a SuperUser request on your phone, allow it.
Getting ENG S-OFF
5. Install "Desire HD easy s-off", click "S-OFF it"! There will be a SuperUser request on your phone, allow it. There could be force closes after the process, just reboot and everything will be fine.
6. (Optional) I backed up all my apps using the free "My Backup Root" app from Android market. Not going to restore after installing the new rom because this might mess up things. Just using it as a reference so I can manually redownload all my apps.
Installing ROM Manager and ClockworkMod
7. Download and install "ROM Manager" through Android Market.
8. Disconnect phone from computer
9. Launch "ROM Manager" app, select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" and follow instructions.
Allow SuperUser request.
Installing LeeDroiD
10. Download LeeDroiD HD ROM (and check MD5 hash). I used v2.0.0. Connect your phone to the computer (Disk Drive mode) and copy the file to the root of the SD card.
11. Make sure you have enough room on the SD card for a complete backup. Mine was 750MB.
12. Make sure the battery of the phone is charged and disconnect it from computer.
13. Boot into recovery by starting "ROM Manager" and selecting "Reboot into Recovery"
Moving the cursor in recovery is done using volume up and down buttons. Power button functions as "select/enter"
14. Once booted, select "backup&restore", then "backup" (this will backup your current ROM a.k.a. Nandroid backup to your SD).
15. When the backup is complete, select " +++++Go Back+++++". select " Reboot system now".
Connect to the computer in Disk drive mode and copy the created backup (in clockworkmod folder) to your computer. If something goes wrong with the SD card during wipes/flashes, you will at least have your backup safe. After copying the files run the MD5 hash in the backup folder on your computer to make sure all files are intact.
Now we are going to wipe stuff, so if you are getting cold feet: NOW is the time to stop.
16. Boot into recovery by starting "ROM Manager" and selecting "Reboot into Recovery"
17. Select "wipe data/factory reset". Scroll down to "yes" in the next screen and press the powerbuttton
18. Select "wipe cache partition".
19. Under Advanced select "Wipe Dalvik cache" (Some people report Market problems when not wiping Dalvik)
20. Select " +++++Go Back+++++"
21. Select "install zip from SD card". Then "Choose zip from sdcard". Then find and select the LeeDroiD zip file on your SD card.
22. Wait for the process to complete. Select " +++++Go Back+++++". Select " Reboot system now". This can take a long time since it is first boot. DO NOT reboot until you have completed the boot sequence and completed the HTC introduction/setup sequence.
Installing new Radio
-Reboot the phone again. Just to make sure everything is still working
-Connect to the computer and set to charge only
-Make sure USB debugging is enabled.
-In theory almost every radio (for your type of phone!) should work. It's just that one version might give better reception while another might have better battery life. Flashing the radio is another possible brick-moment so don't rush it.
23. Install Radio Flash on the computer
24. Open the Radio Flash folder which was created in the previous step
25. Download the recommended radio for your selected ROM and check the MD5 hash
26. Extract the Radio.img in the zip file to the Radio Flash folder
27. Run "Start here" in the Radio Flash folder and a dos window will open
28. At the prompt type "adb reboot bootloader". This will take the device directly to fastboot. It takes a little while (DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING)
29. Wait for the phone to reboot in to bootloader screen.
30. Type "fastboot flash radio radio.img" in the dos window
31. Once it says finished in the window type "fastboot reboot"
YOU ARE DONE! Enjoy your upgraded phone.
it looks good
Well i did it this way and it went well but i switcht from Lee droid to DcMV
and the phone runs well
sorry for OT , but what is DcMV?
guess all what u've written is correct since u made some good readings with the guides on xda dhd forum.
a few points might help u , well since i rooted my DHD 3 days ago
-always downgrade to 1.32 (which u already have)
-temp then perm root with visionary
-before installing the custom rom u chose , try to find the appropriate radio for it and flash that radio BEFORE flashing the custom rom (flash with with stock rom) to avoid incompatibility errors with the awesome S-OFF tools
-always make Nandroid backups (with CWM) before flashing stuff so u can return to your original point
-use titanium backup, as far as i know its the best featured backup app avaliable now (backups : apps+apps data + system apps and data).it will save u lots of time restoring stuff.
-follow the guides "litterally" and there is no need to rush
Wow... A new user who knows how to read! =)
You should post this as a tutorial
There shouldn't be any problems with that.
Gaining ENG S-OFF can brick your device, so be careful at this stage. You're flashing hboot and with a faulty hboot your DHD is nothing but a paperweight.
But I never heard of bricked DHD, so don't worry
Ah yeah, also flashing radio could brick your device.
Thank you all for the feedback.
I forgot about titanium backup. Will come in handy to transfer some apps and their settings.
Goodm7sn, I don't quite understand what you are saying here.
"-before installing the custom rom u chose , try to find the appropriate radio for it and flash that radio BEFORE flashing the custom rom (flash with with stock rom) to avoid incompatibility errors with the awesome S-OFF tools"
What do you mean with "flash with stock rom"? I mean, why flash something that is already there? Also considering the fact that I don't have a stock rom file.
And what kind of compatibility errors are you referring to? I did some googling and the consensus seems to be that it doesn't matter if you flash radio or rom first.
Your steps were nicely arranged and helped me to doublecheck my own steps. Now happy owner of a rooted LeeDroid 1.5.1, in part thanks to you. Suggest that you consider tweaking this into a short tutorial as it could help other newbies too. Cheers!
think yeah i made some confusion there, my bad . what i was trying to say is exactly what happened to me when i was rooting and doing the the other stuff . stock htc rom v1.32 has an old radio and the one that came with v1.72 is newer and more recommended with many other custom roms like leedroid and android revolution hd.
in my case , i installed a custom rom (android revolution HD 2.0.9) and noticed my radio version was the old one and not the one recommended,and since i only had only radio s-off , i ran the ENG S-OFF tool to install the new radio, there the tool displayed errors of rom/kernel incompatibity and i was forced to restore my htc rom v 1.32 where ENG S-OFF was succecfull only then. new radio flashing went smooth as well.
the point is, if u want full freedom and functionality of tools and mods then dont do only radio s-off but do both radio s-off and eng s-off (using the tools) then u r free to flash anything from roms , radios to kernels
Ah, that makes sense. But I got both those locks covered right after root.
Once I get access to using links in the post I will polish it and add my own experiences. I am probably not the only noob scared of messing up, so the more detailed the guide the better. Just hope I get some time in the coming days to upgrade the phone. Making notes on the go will slow it down, but I am not in a hurry. Slow and steady wins the race.
And now it's time for the superbowl.
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Just kicking up the thread so people can decide if this is of any help.
Have just spent the day reading up and trying to figure out how to get my brand new HD sorted.
Its locked to Orange and has the branded firmware. I want it nice and clean, and unlocked (as I need to use an o2 sim card).
Heres the info from my software info page...
Android version - 2.2
Baseband version - 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02_M
Kernel version - 2.6.32-gf3f553d
[email protected] #1
Thu Oct 28
Build number - 1.40.61.2 CL284185 release keys
Software number - 1.40.61.2
Browser version - Webkit 3.1
Do I literally just follow the steps in your original post? Will this unlock it? And, can I make a backup of the phone firmware as it is now in case I need to restore it?
Thanks for your help. Like I say, have spent hours reading and am getting myself confused. First time with Android.
Well if I am not mistaken the radio s-off tool will remove the simlock. And from what I understand this should work with your software version. With the nandroid backup you should be able to restore your phone, but if you are thinking about warranty; I am pretty sure techies will be able to see what you did. If it is absolutely vital you can restore everything you might want to ask in the threads of the developers.
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thanks for the guide briand77, just want to clarify something before i do it , after you run visionary and do the temproot the permroot now is that when you use titainium backup before you do the rest of your steps .
Also he main reason I want to do this is because I want to increase the battery life is that reason enough do you think
Correct. Backup after you achieved root but before modifying stuff.
As for battery life: I didn't really notice a major improvement over stock. While on stock I performed the charging sequence to improve it and that did help a lot.
Leedroid's new kernel 2.0.5 is supposed to be great for battery life but I have not installed that yet I'll wait to see if bugs appear first . If you want to install a new kernel just use step 21 in my guide. No need to wipe or anything.
Radio versions can also have a serious impact on battery life. But that is a trial and error thing since it depends on your location and such.
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Thanks again for this post. Its good to have everything in one thread, then you can refer to the individual threads for further info. It helped me do my first ROM install and have since played and messed, upgraded kernels etc.
Just about to wipe and start again
Cheers Braind77 i followed your tutorial and now i have r2d2 on reboots thanks very much, what seemed to be daunting at first read was very concise and easy to follow .
So now that I have done this I can remove anything off the phone i don't want now , tha's correct I assume
very detailed guide there for noobs like me. but i like to know if i want to use Titanium Backup to backup my stock rom n i want to flash my rom to Revolution HD, how do i do it?
@Kaptone. Once you are rooted and have ENG S-OFF (engineering security off) you can do pretty much everything you want. Be careful though. Deleting things can mess stuff up pretty bad. Don't delete unless you really know what it is you are deleting. And custom roms are pretty clean to start with.
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foccacia said:
very detailed guide there for noobs like me. but i like to know if i want to use Titanium Backup to backup my stock rom n i want to flash my rom to Revolution HD, how do i do it?
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TiBackup is only used to backup data, apps and settings. The real safetynet is the "nandroid" backup (step 14), which is sort of like a system image.
I recently read posts about problems with the latest CWM Recovery (the actual backup program) so it might be a good idea to check that out. After all, what is the use of a bad backup?
It doesn't matter which ROM you want to use. The procedure is the same. The only thing that might differ is the recommended Radio.
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@briand77 -- Nice tutorial, it's good to have everything in one place, if only this was available a few months ago it would have save me a lot of forum searching lol!
Might be best though to see if you can move it to the Development Forum? I'm not sure Q&A many people would find it properly. It'd be a shame for not many people to find it.
@superdon -- I too was with the pain-in-the-ass that is Orange with all their Orange software/wallpapers/ringtones/general rubbish. That was my main reason in rooting mine. In terms of warranty purposes, I made an Orange backup as soon as I was able to boot into recovery mode so that the only thing that had changed to my stock ROM was S-Off and root. Apparently there are ways to put S-Off back on but in my eyes, if the phone is broken and this was down to a software problem, you'd have to be seriously unlucky to brick it. I've not read up on anyone bricking theirs yet. There always seems to be a way back as long as you follow instructions properly!
Battery wise I'm on the 2.0.5 kernel, doesn't seem to be much change to battery but then it's always going to be different for different people. I don't use many widgets, got rid of friend stream/stocks/twitter/news etc so mine lasts quite well. I only lose 6% battery overnight and am pretty much able to go two days now with moderately heavy usage out of it.
Hello all.
I have a t-mobile g2, currently S-OFF, which is sitting in hboot/fastboot right now. I will not boot past the HTC screen.
I attained root last night using this method, and it worked without problems. I then gave a few apps (terminal and shark, to be precise) superuser access. Went to sleep.
This morning, I wanted to delete some apps and change some system fonts around (wanted to use the ubuntu font instead of droidsans). deleted photobucket at amazon mp3. while trying to change the fonts, I changed permissions on the /system/ folder to 777 (chmod 777 /system/). Changing the fonts wasn't working out, so i decided to leave it alone and just reboot my device. upon reboot, it would no longer boot past the htc boot screen. It will, however, go into hboot/fastboot mode without a problem. I tried going into recovery mode and using the update.zip (e4aaacea73af.OTA_Vision_TMUS_1.22.531.8-1.1.19.531.1_release_signed.zip renamed). No luck. Also, i tried researching on the forums and using adb to try to unbrick, but adb doesn't recognize any device being plugged in. fastboot did work, though, and i wrote the original recovery.img file into the phone (although I don't know where it goes when this is done...) and now I don't know where to go next. any help?
Try wiping your data and flashing a new rom on there. Some roms have a OC kernel so I would also make sure u know what kind of kernel the rom has. If its OCed I would download o non OCed kernel. Reason being some are like OCed to the max which makes the phone not boot, and when turned off sleeping doesn't want to turn back on.
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Vandale said:
Try wiping your data and flashing a new rom on there. Some roms have a OC kernel so I would also make sure u know what kind of kernel the rom has. If its OCed I would download o non OCed kernel. Reason being some are like OCed to the max which makes the phone not boot, and when turned off sleeping doesn't want to turn back on.
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I had stock android that came with the phone, I just got it about a week ago. Is there any way to find the standard/stock android rom for the g2? if anyone could link it and let me know how to flash it, that would be amazing.
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I've been doing a bit more research, and I found that it might be possible to flash a stock rom (PC10IMG.zip). I downloaded the TMOUS one provided in this thread and shortened it to PC10IMG.zip. Once I do that, I go into Hboot, and when it checks for the different nbh/zip images, it always tells me "no image"/"no image or wrong image!". HELP!!!
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Update:
I've been doing a bit more research, and I found that it might be possible to flash a stock rom (PC10IMG.zip). I downloaded the TMOUS one provided in this thread and shortened it to PC10IMG.zip. Once I do that, I go into Hboot, and when it checks for the different nbh/zip images, it always tells me "no image"/"no image or wrong image!". HELP!!!
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Which one did you download? The first few on there were pre-release ROMs. The 1.19.531.1 ROM was the release ROM originally. Most recent G2's come with 1.22 (the OTA update) pre-installed, which we do not currently have a PC10IMG.zip for. If your G2 had 1.22 (e.g., you already had wifi-calling and tethering), you won't be able to use the 1.19 PC10IMG unless you used gfree to obtain S-OFF. If you did not (i.e., you only flashed the engineering HBOOT), you should not try to flash this file (it will replace your HBOOT with the shipping version and then quit mid-flash because it sees you already have a higher version installed). Even if you did obtain S-OFF with gfree, flashing this file will cause you to lose your engineering HBOOT and root (though you will still have S-OFF, so it's easy to re-root).
As was stated earlier, the easiest/best thing to do at this point is flash a custom ROM. If you still want the stock look-and-feel, here is a pre-rooted stock G2 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836042. You want to flash it through ClockworkMod recovery. I'm assuming you hadn't installed this already or you would have a backup of your ROM that you could have simply restored. You can install ClockworkMod recovery through fastboot though (there is a thread in the dev section or you can search for one of the many guides on it).
Also, you will probably want to get the de-odex version of the stock ROM. If you are doing any kind of theming or UI modifications, that is usually required (or your changes will cause a bootloop). Without knowing the details of what you tried to do, I'm guessing this is what happened to you (since the stock ROM is odex'ed).
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As was stated earlier, the easiest/best thing to do at this point is flash a custom ROM. If you still want the stock look-and-feel, here is a pre-rooted stock G2 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836042. You want to flash it through ClockworkMod recovery. I'm assuming you hadn't installed this already or you would have a backup of your ROM that you could have simply restored. You can install ClockworkMod recovery through fastboot though (there is a thread in the dev section or you can search for one of the many guides on it).
Also, you will probably want to get the de-odex version of the stock ROM. If you are doing any kind of theming or UI modifications, that is usually required (or your changes will cause a bootloop). Without knowing the details of what you tried to do, I'm guessing this is what happened to you (since the stock ROM is odex'ed).
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Do you mean this thread? I have been trying to follow along and it's a bit confusing (although I feel that's due largely in part to grammatical/usage errors). what you are saying does help a lot though. I just need to learn how to install Clockworkmod Recovery through fastboot. *googles away* in the meantime, feel free to link me to another thread which helps me do this. Thanks a million.
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I finally figured out what I was doing. So I used fastboot to flash a clockworkmod recovery.img onto my g2. When I went to recovery, after booting into hboot, it went to the HTC screen, as it should. Guess what I got? loopboot, once again T_T. Luckily I still have the official recovery.img, and reflashed that. Did I do something wrong? Please let me know.
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UPDATE:
I finally figured out what I was doing. So I used fastboot to flash a clockworkmod recovery.img onto my g2. When I went to recovery, after booting into hboot, it went to the HTC screen, as it should. Guess what I got? loopboot, once again T_T. Luckily I still have the official recovery.img, and reflashed that. Did I do something wrong? Please let me know.
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Wait, so what exactly happened? You entered the bootloader (white screen with green Android guys at the bottom), selected to enter recovery (using volume down and power button to select), and then was presented with an HTC logo? That means ClockworkMod recovery did not successfully flash. Did you get any errors when you used flashboot?
That's exactly what happened, and no, not at all. It said it flashed successfully. Maybe I don't have the correct version of Clockworkmod? If you could please link me to a good one, that would be great.
UPDATE!!
So I found an official clockworkmod 2.5.1.2, and now when I boot into recovery, it shows the HTC logo and then goes to clockworkmod. This is amazing. Thank you guys for all your help, I have learned something new today.
Now, can someone explain the difference between odexed and deodexed? please? lol.
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Wait, so what exactly happened? You entered the bootloader (white screen with green Android guys at the bottom), selected to enter recovery (using volume down and power button to select), and then was presented with an HTC logo? That means ClockworkMod recovery did not successfully flash. Did you get any errors when you used flashboot?
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Looks like I cried victory too quickly. While I do get the menu for clockworkmod (every time I boot, for that matter), every time I issue a command, such as reboot now, or install from SDcard, and even advanced, the screen goes black. GRRR, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? I've been at this since about 1 today T_T
Just wanted to say that I'm the biggest noob on the planet. While I did upgrade to cwm 3.0.0.5, i didn't know it allowed the use of the main controls. I got my phone up and running now. Thank you for all the help. Good night :]
Hi all!
I have recently joined the forums because I have heard that you guys are the best when it comes to smart phones including rooting and what not. I have scoured the forums looking for direct answers on how to root my EVO 4G and what I need to use for the best and easiest root. I work as a Network Administrator so I am familiar different technologies and different O/S's including many variations of Linux.
So, moving forward, I want to root my EVO. I have installed all of the latest updates released by both Sprint and HTC. But I have seem so many different ways to do this most notably using Unrevoked. But I've read in the forums that Unrevoked may not work well with the Kernel or Software I have?
I found the leaked Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 image (I believe it was an image) on the forums here and thought about using that one but with so many different ways to "root" an EVO I have no idea on where to begin. I know that many have posted about this before and I hate to be "that guy" whom posts it again but I truly need some expert advice here.
First off, which root method should I use? Secondly, which custom ROM should I use or should I use a custom ROM? I backup my data and apps with myBackup Pro by the way.
And here are the exact specs for my phone:
Software Information:
Android Version:
2.2 (Froyo of course)
Baseband Version:
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel Version:
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
htc-kernel"ampersand"and18-2 #15
Build Number:
3.70.651.1
Browser Version:
WebKit 3.1
PRI Version
1.90_003
PRL Version:
60677
If I'm posting in the wrong forum please do not hesitate to move my thread, I will not be offended like some people are. Lol!
Thanks guys!
Use unrevoked, it should root all versions of the Evo. There were compatibility issues at one point, but I believe that has all been fixed.
You will need to uninstall HTC Sync if you have it installed. If you haven't installed it, do so & then uninstall it. You will also need to install the modified hboot drivers if you're using Windows. You can get those from the unrevoked site. Make sure you have usb debugging turned on before you start the root process & that you've uninstalled anything that syncs with your phone - Doubletwist for one example. If you have problems, disable your antivirus as well.
If unrevoked works for you, I would make sure to do a nandroid backup via recovery before you do anything else. Unrevoked flashes Clockworkmod Recovery. I prefer Amon Ra, but whichever you use is up to you. You can switch recoveries through Rom Manager.
Also make sure you've backed up your RSA keys. Clockwork does this automatically with each backup. You can choose to include/exclude with AR, or do a separate backup of only your wimax keys.
The new GingerSense roms, while neat, are probably not a good idea for a first rom... or even a daily driver. They're going to be really buggy.
If you need anything else or another method to root, I'll be around. Good luck & have fun!
Sweet!
Thanks a ton PlainJane!
I won't be able to try this until tomorrow but rest assured I will try and most likely succeed with your advice. Speaking of Nandroid, I haven't been able to find it on the Android Market, unless I'm over looking it. So if you were doing it, which recovery/backup method would you use and where can you find it if not in the Android Market?
Again, thank you so much and I will probably wait until I get Nandroid or one of the others before I proceed. Hopefully that will be tomorrow.
Regards!
PAinguIN
Nandroid is just the name for the backup made in recovery. If I remember right, ClockworkMod doesn't call it that, nor does Rom Manager (the dev that made Clockwork made Rom Manager to go with it). Recovery is where you'll be doing all of your flashing & backing up. Titanium Backup (or MyBackup) will be needed to back up your apps + data so you can restore them after flashing a new Rom. Doing a nandroid backup is needed in case anything goes wrong or you just want to go back to the ROM/setup you had before. Nandroid backups take an image of your phone at that given time. When you restore a nandroid, it looks exactly as it did when you made the backup. Your rom/kernel are restored as well as your homescreens, apps, everything. They really come in handy. I'd suggest keeping at least one, along with your RSA keys if they're done separately, on your computer just in case. You cannot restore backups made with Amon Ra with Clockwork or vice versa, so I would go ahead and decide which recovery you want to use to avoid having to switch around later.
To get to recovery, you need to power down the phone. Hold the volume down button & the power button at the same time until you see a white screen - that's the bootloader. At the top in should say Supersonic something something ship S-off. The s-off means that you're nand unlocked, fully rooted. Use the volume buttons to move up & down through the menu. Hit the volume down button to highlight "recovery" then the power button to select it. You'll see the white Evo splashscreen & then you'll be in recovery. I'm not sure how Clockwork is laid out because I haven't used it in a while, but there should be a backup/restore option in the recovery menu. Choose that & the rest is pretty self-explanatory. In Amon Ra, choose backup/restore then nandroid backup. You'll be given options what to backup (only in AR, not CWM). Leave the first three checked and do your backup. If you want to include wimax keys, just use the volume down button to highlight it & power to select it. You'll see the box next to it checked. I would suggest doing a separate backup of only your wimax keys after doing a full backup. Just uncheck the first three and then check only wimax.
Remember, before flashing a new ROM, wipe everything in recovery but the SD card. When flashing anything else that goes with the rom - kernels, themes, add-ons, etc - just wipe cache & dalvik cache. In Clockworkmod, I think dalvik is under advanced.
Let me know how it goes!
EDIT: I'm not sure of what wipe options are in Clockwork, and I don't want you to accidentally wipe something on your SD or something else that you shouldn't. So if you use CWM, just wipe data, dalvik, and cache. Or you can use a format all zip (King's format all will work with Clockwork) to do it. In Amon Ra, it's safe to do what I said before, even though data & dalvik/cache should be all that's necessary.
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Nandroid is just the name for the backup made in recovery. If I remember right, ClockworkMod doesn't call it that, nor does Rom Manager (the dev that made Clockwork made Rom Manager to go with it). Recovery is where you'll be doing all of your flashing & backing up. Titanium Backup (or MyBackup) will be needed to back up your apps + data so you can restore them after flashing a new Rom. Doing a nandroid backup is needed in case anything goes wrong or you just want to go back to the ROM/setup you had before. Nandroid backups take an image of your phone at that given time. When you restore a nandroid, it looks exactly as it did when you made the backup. Your rom/kernel are restored as well as your homescreens, apps, everything. They really come in handy. I'd suggest keeping at least one, along with your RSA keys if they're done separately, on your computer just in case. You cannot restore backups made with Amon Ra with Clockwork or vice versa, so I would go ahead and decide which recovery you want to use to avoid having to switch around later.
To get to recovery, you need to power down the phone. Hold the volume down button & the power button at the same time until you see a white screen - that's the bootloader. At the top in should say Supersonic something something ship S-off. The s-off means that you're nand unlocked, fully rooted. Use the volume buttons to move up & down through the menu. Hit the volume down button to highlight "recovery" then the power button to select it. You'll see the white Evo splashscreen & then you'll be in recovery. I'm not sure how Clockwork is laid out because I haven't used it in a while, but there should be a backup/restore option in the recovery menu. Choose that & the rest is pretty self-explanatory. In Amon Ra, choose backup/restore then nandroid backup. You'll be given options what to backup (only in AR, not CWM). Leave the first three checked and do your backup. If you want to include wimax keys, just use the volume down button to highlight it & power to select it. You'll see the box next to it checked. I would suggest doing a separate backup of only your wimax keys after doing a full backup. Just uncheck the first three and then check only wimax.
Remember, before flashing a new ROM, wipe everything in recovery but the SD card. When flashing anything else that goes with the rom - kernels, themes, add-ons, etc - just wipe cache & dalvik cache. In Clockworkmod, I think dalvik is under advanced.
Let me know how it goes!
EDIT: I'm not sure of what wipe options are in Clockwork, and I don't want you to accidentally wipe something on your SD or something else that you shouldn't. So if you use CWM, just wipe data, dalvik, and cache. Or you can use a format all zip (King's format all will work with Clockwork) to do it. In Amon Ra, it's safe to do what I said before, even though data & dalvik/cache should be all that's necessary.
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PlainJane,
Thank you again for your advice. So from what I understand this is what I need to do. First, I need to "root" my device using Unrevoked. Once rooted I then boot my phone up in "Recovery Mode" and at that point I will be able to make my Nandroid image via the recovery method I choose. Correct?
But, where and when do I install these mods? For instance, just for an example, if I wanted to use ClockworkMod would it already show up in Recovery since my phone is now rooted or do I have to install it separately?
This gets more and more confusing as time goes by. I would certainly want to make my Nandroid backup before I would root the phone I would imagine but doing so is not possible unless the device is already rooted correct?
I'm going to give this a shot right now starting with the first set of instructions you gave me.
I hope all goes well.
Thanks and please feel free to respond with any additional information I may need or if it sounds like I have confused myself, which I believe I have.... Lol!
PAinguIN
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PlainJane,
Thank you again for your advice. So from what I understand this is what I need to do. First, I need to "root" my device using Unrevoked. Once rooted I then boot my phone up in "Recovery Mode" and at that point I will be able to make my Nandroid image via the recovery method I choose. Correct?
But, where and when do I install these mods? For instance, just for an example, if I wanted to use ClockworkMod would it already show up in Recovery since my phone is now rooted or do I have to install it separately?
This gets more and more confusing as time goes by. I would certainly want to make my Nandroid backup before I would root the phone I would imagine but doing so is not possible unless the device is already rooted correct?
I'm going to give this a shot right now starting with the first set of instructions you gave me.
I hope all goes well.
Thanks and please feel free to respond with any additional information I may need or if it sounds like I have confused myself, which I believe I have.... Lol!
PAinguIN
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Unrevoked automatically installs ClockworkMod Recovery, so no need to do that. If you want to use Amon Ra - I think it is the more popular, easy to use option - you will have to flash it over CWM. You can do this easily by downloading Rom Manager from the market & choosing "flash alternate recovery". Other functions of Rom Manager won't work without Clockwork, but trust me, learning to do everything manually will really help you out.
Since it seems that you're a little confused on this point - you only have one recovery at a time. For the Evo, there's ClockworkMod & Amon Ra. You have to have one or the other to boot into recovery, otherwise you'll get a black screen with a red triangle in the corner.
If for some reason flashing AR doesn't work from Rom Manager, let me know & I'll walk you through the manual installation. If you just want to learn that method, I'm all for that too. I just don't want to confuse you with that information unless you need it.
You cannot do a nandroid backup until you root the phone. It's just one more limitation of not being rooted. You have to have a custom recovery installed, and I don't think this is possible without being rooted. You can go ahead & do the backup once you've rooted, just be sure to switch recoveries first if that's something you plan on doing. I'm not saying Clockwork is bad, I just recommend AR for multiple reasons... one of them being that Amon Ra supports both edify & amend scripting. With newer versions of ClockworkMod, you can only flash edify scripted zips, older versions are amend only. If you flash enough you'll run into a problem with this one-or-the-other way of doing things.
Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. I found that watching videos on YouTube helped me feel more at ease before my first time rooting and my first time flashing. Once I saw how easy it was, I felt more comfortable doing it. Read the stickies and any kind of guides you can find in the Evo forums. I've learned a lot just by reading the Evo Q&A section.
If you want to pm me with any more questions, go ahead. You can ask them in the thread too, if you want... either way.
I'd like to hear how everything goes for you. Most people are happy with how easy unrevoked is, but a few do have problems. Anyway, good luck!
PlainJane,
Well, I've installed the modified HBOOT drivers successfully. I have ran UnrEVOked3 and am now in the process of creating my first NANDROID backup. I just stuck with ClockWorkMod because once I actually ran UnrEVOked3 and it finished it reboot my EVO into recovery mode. So rather than rebooting my phone again and flashing Amon Ra (and possibly running into any problems) I just stuck with CWM. I may regret this later but at this point I am just glad that my phone hasn't been "bricked". Lol!
It's still running the NANDROID backup right now. Now I need to clarify what needs to be done when that has finished. I guess I need to flash a custom ROM of my choosing right? Will I do this using ROMmanager or do I need to d/l one from the net somewhere first?
Also, you mention something about wiping the data on my phone aside from the SD Card. I only need to do this just before I flash a "New ROM" correct? Or should I go ahead and do this now?
Anyway, it looks like "so far so good" in my case. Thanks to you that is! ; ) And the backup has completed, I'm going to see if I can boot into my phone now.
Oh, and this is what I am seeing in CWM:
ClockworkMod Recovery v2.6.0.1
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- install zip from sdcard
- backup and restore
- mounts and storage
- advanced
- +++++Go Back+++++
So that's what you see with ClockWorkMod these days.
Now, back to what I was saying. Do I choose a custom ROM now or am I good with what I have? Also, about wiping, that's only done when I flash a new ROM?
Thanks yet again PlainJane!
PAinguIN
I created the attached document for myself when I was learning how to root and what all steps that need to be taken. Its not perfect, but when i root a phone for my friends, i still reference this and make changes when needed.
/*** Follow these steps at your own risk. Like is said, these are the steps that I use and this is NOT an "official" guide.
/*** I take no responsibility for "bricking" during this process
I have to put some sort of disclaimer in here, lol
fikusunc said:
I created the attached document for myself when I was learning how to root and what all steps that need to be taken. Its not perfect, but when i root a phone for my friends, i still reference this and make changes when needed.
/*** Follow these steps at your own risk. Like is said, these are the steps that I use and this is NOT an "official" guide.
/*** I take no responsibility for "bricking" during this process
I have to put some sort of disclaimer in here, lol
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Thanks!
So what ROM/Kernel is the best or coolest to have these days? I already tried to uninstall some factory installed apps with no luck. I also tried to use the "Root" features in JuiceDefender and when I allowed the app to scan to see if my Kernel/Rom supported CPU controlling it said that it was not supported. So I certainly need to get a new ROM/Kernel.
Perhaps you guide will hold the secret!
Thanks guy!
PAinguIN
yw, check out this site. This person put together a page that makes looking for roms very easy. http://evo4g.roms-db.com/
As far as what is the "best" or "coolest", that just depends on what you want. I basically wanted a rom that that was stable and had hotspot and tethering enabled and working. I think that I have had almost every rom that is on above link and I finally decided on sticking with the Eternal Prophecy rom. I kept going back to it so now im sticking with it until I get more knowledge to build my own.
I dont know enough about Kernals to flash one or make modifications, yet.
to uninstall some apps that come default on a rom, I use "root explorer".
just check out the section of the file called:
######## TO REMOVE BLOATING HTC / SPRINT APPS, FOLLOW THE STEPS HERE OR KEEP READING ########
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So I downloaded the Eternal Prophecy v5.7 ROM. Do I place this in the root of my SD card? Also, can I flash this rom using ROM Manager or do I have to do it through ClockWorkMod recovery? Do I have to wipe my phone beforehand if I use ROM Manager?
One other question, how do I choose a Kernel and what is the benefit of using a different Kernel. For instance, if I use this Kernel "Netarchy 4.3.4 CFS HAVS SBC More Aggressive" what will it do for me? And do I have to have a custom kernel for a custom rom?
Thanks!
By the way, your guide was helpful. I like what has been done in the Eternal Prophecy Rom, I haven't installed it yet but based on the change notes I've read it sounds great. Although I don't see why someone would want to remove Adobe Reader. I have to work with PDF files a great deal and I also read e-books in PDF format as well. I guess I'll just install it after I flash the ROM.
Thanks again,
PAinguIN
Wow, I missed a lot overnight apparently, hah.
First off, don't wipe data unless you're about to flash! Otherwise you won't have any data. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm not familiar with the Rom you chose, but I'm sure it'll be fine. The most popular roms are usually on the first couple of pages of the Evo Development forums, but popularity shouldn't be the deciding factor. Run through the thread for the rom & just make sure it's stable & people aren't having a lot of problems. It's usually best to choose a rom that's up to date, but I stuck with CM6 until CM7 nightly 20-something was out because I liked how stable it was & didn't feel the need to jump on the Gingerbread bandwagon.
Okay, since you downloaded the ROM externally, you can't flash through Rom Manager... I think. I've never used it so I'm not sure. But for learning purposes, go ahead and do it manually. Read the thread for the rom - at least the first few posts, not the whole thing - and make sure there isn't anything else that's required before flashing. If you don't need anything else, you can go ahead and flash the rom by itself. You can flash kernels, etc later. Now I'm not exactly sure where things are in Clockwork (thanks for showing me the first level, it sounds odd compared to what I'm used to), but you need to wipe cache, dalvik cache & data. I have heard that dalvik is under advanced, but I don't remember if the rest is under wipe data/factory reset or not.
After you've wiped, choose install zip from sd card. All of the zip files are at the bottom, so it's easiest to hit the volume up button to take you to the bottom unstead of going down from the top. If I remember right, Clockwork makes you choose yes in the middle of a bunch of noes. I think that's what I miss the least about CWM, lol. When it finishes flashing just choose to reboot, and hopefully you'll be done with that ugly boot animation & sound from Sprint :]
Okay, on to kernels. Most likely all you need is a CFS kernel. BFS kernels give you better quadrant scores, but quadrant scores are just a competition for teenage boys. You can use them for testing purposes, but take them with a grain of salt. There's a great kernel starter guide. I have it saved, but just search for kernel starter guide & you should be able to find it. With a havs kernel, you can't change your cpu speed without interfering with the kernel. Havs kernels do a good job of undervolting to save battery when the phone isn't in use, eliminating the need for SetCPU or anything similar. You will still be able to use the app, but doing so will kind of fight the kernel. Make sure you choose an AOSP kernel for AOSP & Sense for Sense. Also take into account if you're on 2.2 or 2.3, but this mostly matters for AOSP right now. You do not need a custom kernel, every rom comes with one. You can choose a different one to suit your needs.
I'm sure I missed something, so if I think of anything else, I'll let you know
Ok, well, I've already bought SetCPU and I've purchase Rom Manager Pro and Bloat Freezer. Problem though, I was going to try and d/l and flash a rom using Rom Manager but when I press download ROM it tells me this: "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing! Install the recovery through ROM Manager first."
But I already have ClockworkMod installed because Unrevoked did it for me. If I click on Reboot into Recovery it works fine. But why does it tell me I need to install ClockworkMod recovery when it's already installed? It gives me the choice to install it but I don't want to reinstall it and cause any problems you know?
What should I do? Should I use Rom Manager at all now or should I just work manually?
Thanks!
PAinguINx said:
Ok, well, I've already bought SetCPU and I've purchase Rom Manager Pro and Bloat Freezer. Problem though, I was going to try and d/l and flash a rom using Rom Manager but when I press download ROM it tells me this: "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing! Install the recovery through ROM Manager first."
But I already have ClockworkMod installed because Unrevoked did it for me. If I click on Reboot into Recovery it works fine. But why does it tell me I need to install ClockworkMod recovery when it's already installed? It gives me the choice to install it but I don't want to reinstall it and cause any problems you know?
What should I do? Should I use Rom Manager at all now or should I just work manually?
Thanks!
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This was more of a curiosity question to be honest with you. I have copied the ROM and Calkulin's combo update to the root of my SD card and am performing my NANDROID right now. I decided to try out "Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo" ROM instead of Eternal Prophecy. I will probably flash a Cyanogen ROM later and perform a NANDROID of that as well so I can switch back and forth.
I really appreciate all of your help PlainJane, oh, and Fikusunc too!
This is truly the best forum for Android/Linux development and modifications. I'll spread the word about XDA to my friends for sure. ; )
Still curious about that Rom Manager thing though...strange....
I bought the Pro key too when I first rooted. I used it to download one ROM that I never flashed and I haven't touched it since. I learned to do everything manually from the get-go... I think I just didn't trust Rom Manager to do its job. As for the error, I got that too with the premium version. I think I downgraded to a previous version & it worked for me. You can also try reflashing the recovery through Rom Manager, that may help. If not, go to settings and clear cache/data for Rom Manager & then try again. I really think you'd benefit from learning to do it manually... it's not hard at all, and if you're in a pinch where your phone won't boot, it'll help to know your way around the recovery. If you can get Rom Manager working and want to use it, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with using it. You've already paid for it.
I think you'll really enjoy Myn's, especially coming from stock. It took me some time to flash a custom rom after I rooted, but once I did I was amazed to see what I'd been missing.
Let me know how you like Myn's, though. I've pretty much settled between CM & MIUI, but I feel it's time for something new. I haven't used Sense in what feels like forever, so I may give it a shot.
Wow! Quick learner! It took me some time to wrap my head around all this stuff! You had good coaches also. Good luck and have fun with your "new" Evo!
New EVO user as well and I'm eager to get rooted and get CM7 flashed. I've read that WiMax isn't working with most custom ROMs. I'm wondering, if I decide to restore back to stock ROM, would WiMax work again? (assuming of course I back up my RSA keys) or am I SOL after flashing a new ROM?
Thanks all! Just upgraded from an HTC Rhodium 400 and am still new to this whole thing.
BTW - thanks for the thread, It's been useful
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New EVO user as well and I'm eager to get rooted and get CM7 flashed. I've read that WiMax isn't working with most custom ROMs. I'm wondering, if I decide to restore back to stock ROM, would WiMax work again? (assuming of course I back up my RSA keys) or am I SOL after flashing a new ROM?
Thanks all! Just upgraded from an HTC Rhodium 400 and am still new to this whole thing.
BTW - thanks for the thread, It's been useful
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this is actually not correct. wimax works with most roms. EVEN CM7 NOW! it took 4 months for 2 guys to reverse engineer closed-source wimax drivers to the evo. so now you have 'MOAR GEES' as we call it, on cm7. even if you flash a rom w/o 4g, you'l still have it when you come back to one that does.
btw, SAVE YOUR RSA KEYS! have at least one nandroid bakcup wiht wimax.img so that if you keys (the way into sprint's 4g network) gets corrupted, you aren't sol.
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I bought the Pro key too when I first rooted. I used it to download one ROM that I never flashed and I haven't touched it since. I learned to do everything manually from the get-go... I think I just didn't trust Rom Manager to do its job. As for the error, I got that too with the premium version. I think I downgraded to a previous version & it worked for me. You can also try reflashing the recovery through Rom Manager, that may help. If not, go to settings and clear cache/data for Rom Manager & then try again. I really think you'd benefit from learning to do it manually... it's not hard at all, and if you're in a pinch where your phone won't boot, it'll help to know your way around the recovery. If you can get Rom Manager working and want to use it, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with using it. You've already paid for it.
I think you'll really enjoy Myn's, especially coming from stock. It took me some time to flash a custom rom after I rooted, but once I did I was amazed to see what I'd been missing.
Let me know how you like Myn's, though. I've pretty much settled between CM & MIUI, but I feel it's time for something new. I haven't used Sense in what feels like forever, so I may give it a shot.
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Painjane,
Actually I think I'm going to stick with your advice and handle everything manually from now own. While I could probably reflash recovery through ROM Manager and get it working properly recovery does work. So as they say, if it's not broken don't fix it right? Lol!
I'll keep ROM Manager though, since I've paid for it, and possibly try to use it when I flash my next ROM. Just to see what happens.
One of the guys posted in the thread something about how fast I caught on and that I had a good coach. Thanks! I think I did catch on pretty quickly, and yes I had a very good coach. Lol!
I've actually owned my EVO since its day of release. I pre-ordered that device once I heard of it and did my research. I originally wanted the Nexus One but settled on the EVO as the NEXUS One was only available through T-Mobile or something. Nothing against T-Mobile, they just don't offer good service in my area.
Anyway, it took me this long to buildup the courage to finally root my phone. The last thing I wanted was a $600 paper weight you know? Lol! But as smooth as this process went I would recommend this process to anyone.
And PlainJane, Myn's is working great! It has an amazing interface and is just plain (no pun intended) sweet!. Here's something for everyone else out there which I did differently.
Instead of wiping ALL of the data on my phone I only wiped the dalvik and cache instead of doing a complete wipe. This way everything was still setup exactly the way I had it before the flash. i.e. E-Mail, Contacts, SMS logs, music, photos, etc. Moreover, wireless tether works great, Wimaxx still turns on but we don't have 4G around here so I've never been able to use it. Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS work just fine too.
In fact, there is nothing that doesn't work the way it should. So, in my opinion, wiping your device of all of it's data is not necessary but I did not develop the ROMS so check with the devs before doing anything out of the norm.
; )
PAinguIN