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I've just got my first Android phone (an HTC Desire from Telstra - quite a good phone from all reports but hobbled almost to the point of unusability by Telstra). My Android guru (also a member of this forum) has had little success rooting it so it can be made more useful because, although most of the process works, it seems that Clockwork is not going in successfully and doesn't seem to be able to recognise the SD card (8GB, partitoned at 7GB (FAT32) and 1 GB (EXT3)). It claims that it can't find several of the files it needs to work.
The upshot is that, although the screen comes up with the options of things to do (restore etc.), when selected it just hangs with a black screen.
I checked some other similar threads but couldn't come up with anything.
Please pardon any inanity - I'm very new to this.
Any help most gratefully accepted. Thanks
when selected it just hangs with a black screen.
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When selecting the option use the centre trackpad to select not the power button...
However i'm also new to a Desire (i have a desire hd) and have exactly the same on the Desire i rooted with Unrevoked last night, for example if i try to wipe system or data it just comes up with an error message...
Any ideas thanks...
Just tried to run unrevoked again to see if recovery would install properly this time.
Yesterday it said it was a triumph this time it says failed to get root is the software to new...
Is that because its already rooted or it didn't actually work properly yesterday ?
Thanks
After reading a bit on google and on this forum seems that Unrevoked may be the issue someone else with the same problem got it sorted by using Unrevoked 3.21 rather than the 3.32 that the unrevoked website installs...
Next question anyone know where i can get 3.21 been googling and can't find anything that will actually download..
Again many thanks
wakers said:
After reading a bit on google and on this forum seems that Unrevoked may be the issue someone else with the same problem got it sorted by using Unrevoked 3.21 rather than the 3.32 that the unrevoked website installs...
Next question anyone know where i can get 3.21 been googling and can't find anything that will actually download..
Again many thanks
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How about PMing the person who sorted the problem out to see if they still have 3.2.1 on their machine? I thought I did but on checking I've got 3.3.2 - sorry!
Hi
I had to use AlphaRev to be able to flash custom firmware. Unrevoked did root the phone but didn't s-off. If you plan to use Unrevoked VirtualBox method get VBox v3.xx, v4.xx has something messed with usb passthrough
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I managed to find a version of the unrevoked that was suggested but it hasn't made any difference...
I've been ages reading and going around in circles
The Hboot is 0.93.0001
The phone appears to be rooted as superuser is on it and appears to be working.
THe phone will boot into recovery but recovery doesn't work
I've tried using a different recovery with rom manager but it makes no difference when i boot into recovery its the same Clockworkmod recovery 2.5.0.7 even though in Rom manager it says its changed...
As it boots into recovery there are a few messages underneath
e:cant find misc:
e:cant mount cache : recovery/command
and a few other lines which i can't remember but similiar
I've tried removing and flashing a different recovery via adb and i get a message saying "remote not allowed"
I've tried flashing recovery with a terminal emulator but can't get it to work either.
Do i need to do the alpharev to get S-Off first before i can sort out recovery ? and if so any info on how to do this, again many thanks and sorry for so many questions.
I've rooted Magic's, Legends, HD2's and my Desire HD but this desire for my missus does have me a bit stumped...
I wonder if fake flash would help in this situation?
Might be a viable way to get recovery functioning...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698403
As it boots into recovery there are a few messages underneath
e:cant find misc:
e:cant mount cache : recovery/command
and a few other lines which i can't remember but similiar
These look like about the same as the ones I get
OK... I don't know why, but this worked for me (and my guru). Instead of pressing the power button as the enter button during the rooting and restore process, we pressed the mouse button and it all worked fine. The errors still showed up but they didn't cause any problems. I think this might have been one of the first suggestions but I seem to have missed it (this is what you get when you stay up 'til stupid-o'clock trying to sort stuff out).
I'm up & running now and I hope this helps some others having the same issues.
Thanks to all those who provided suggestions.
gen_scheisskopf said:
Hi
I had to use AlphaRev to be able to flash custom firmware. Unrevoked did root the phone but didn't s-off. If you plan to use Unrevoked VirtualBox method get VBox v3.xx, v4.xx has something messed with usb passthrough
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Just to clarify this point, Rooting and S-OFF are 2 totally different things.
Root access is to the loaded ROM on the phone. It allows you to gain access to places you normally can't go inside android like \system and \recovery
S-OFF is turning signature verification off in the Bootloader. the bootloader is the lowest system level you can go and as such can do some pretty serious things there.
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Just to clarify this point, Rooting and S-OFF are 2 totally different things.
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Yes, I know this. S-Off option was selected in Unrevoked menu (and didn't work). AlphaRev 1.8 (LiveCD) didn't work on unrooted phone but after rooting did it's job
Finally success i think sometimes you can read so much info you get confused.
Did alpharev via CD and installed alpharev-cwm recovery option and its all working as it should be, can't believe how simple it turned out to be in the end...
Thanks to all who replied much appreciated...
Hello, i am using oxygen 2.0.3 ROM now. I had been flashing roms with recovery for a few times. But now, it seems like recovery is unable to detect changes to my sdcard.
Whenever i boot into recovery to install zip from sdcard, it will show me the folders and zip files that i had before. Any changes i made to the sdcard was not reflected.
I search through the web and this forum and you seems to have the closest issue that i am experiencing. It would be great if you can advice if your method can solve my problem as well and what are the detail steps you took to solve it. Thanks alot man.
Hi mate the issue i had was that recovery didn't seem to install properly at all and i could see the rom etc on the sdcard and any changes i made but it wouldn't work, i also had issue's with not being able to push commands through adb.
What worked for me was creating the Alpharev ISO image on a CD and running it following the instructions, it was incredibly simple but i had a stock rooted rom on my desire.
The alpharev instructions are here
http://alpharev.nl/
Downloadf the Flash utility then burn the flash utility (still zipped) to a CD shut down your laptop press F12 as it boots choose boot from CD once the laptop screen goes black plug your phone in (i had mine on charge only) you also need to make sure USB debugging is checked...
And follow the instructions for me it S-Off'd the phone and installed the Alpharev-CWM recovery which is working as it should...
Not sure thats going to cure your issue though as it seems you have an issue with your recovery reading the SDcard this wasn't an issue for me...
cheongster said:
Hello, i am using oxygen 2.0.3 ROM now. I had been flashing roms with recovery for a few times. But now, it seems like recovery is unable to detect changes to my sdcard.
Whenever i boot into recovery to install zip from sdcard, it will show me the folders and zip files that i had before. Any changes i made to the sdcard was not reflected.
I search through the web and this forum and you seems to have the closest issue that i am experiencing. It would be great if you can advice if your method can solve my problem as well and what are the detail steps you took to solve it. Thanks alot man.
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Do you see changes made to sd card when booted rather than in recovery i.e. if you add a zip to SD and reboot to your rom, do you see the SD, then you don't see it if you reboot again to recovery?
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Do you see changes made to sd card when booted rather than in recovery i.e. if you add a zip to SD and reboot to your rom, do you see the SD, then you don't see it if you reboot again to recovery?
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Yes. I see the changes made to the SD card in my ROM. But the changes don't get reflected when i am in recovery.
Is your issue occurring after you mount the card in usb mode in recovery and then adding file and then trying to flash that zip? if so, then you can see that file by choosing reboot recovery option
Swyped with my Starburst Classic based Desire with Intelligent Data2sd
I transfer the files while i turn on the usb for data transfer in the rom. Do i have to do the file transfer while i'm in recovery?
I used to be able to do it previously. I am not sure what happened along the way and it stopped working now. I did delete all the files on my SD card before having this issue. Not sure if thats the course and if there is a fix for that.
Thanks!
Well if you were doing it while booted up, sorry I have no idea why it doesn't work then.
Solution is to reflash your recovery
Swyped with my Starburst Classic based Desire with Intelligent Data2sd
So, I don't really post on forums because I'm pretty tech-savvy, but I have a big problem that I can't fix, and I can usually fix everything (thanks to you guys!)
This morning, my incredible acted up as I was checking an e-mail and it froze, so I decided to battery pull because restarting my phone didn't work. (Note, my incredible has been running VERY solidly on a CM7.1 nightly). As I tried to boot up the phone again, it would stay on the white HTC Incredible screen. When I rebooted into recovery thru HBOOT, i realized that there was an error mounting something, like recovery_log, or something like that (i didn't mind this because I thought I knew what I was doing), but I tried restoring my old nandroid backup that was working well, but it didn't work. It said it couldn't format /data or something... It ended up staying on the white HTC incredible screen. So, I wiped data/cache like 10 times, and dalvik cache as well and tried re-flashing a clean install of cm7.1 stable, but didn't work again - led me straight to the white Incredible screen. So, installing a fresh rom AND restoring a solid backup didn't work... so...
I found the RUU 2.3 stock rom on the development forums, and tried to install that like I do with the radios (PB31IMG.zip) through HBOOT, but no cigar. It did go PASSED the white screen, but boot loops at the Droid eye.
So, I thought I'd find a different stock img, and found the 2.2 official OTA .zip and installed it the same way, but got the exact same result (boot loops, forever).
Any suggestions? I can't think of anything else.... I feel like my phone is bricked, but I didn't do anything to make that happen.
I feel like something happened that made me not able to format the /data, and stuff. I even formatted my SDcard in case it was the problem.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Load the RUU onto a different fat32 sd card and see if you are able to boot.
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i'll try that and give an update. thanks for the reply!
*update* no luck. same thing happens. i tried on three different sdcards formatted fat32...
Can you factory reset and flash a ROM from a different sd than the one you were using? Description sounds like bad sd, and AOSP roms interact with the sd on boot. If original (CM 7) sd is toast, it'll never boot, hence different sd card and prefably RUU
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I had this happen once where no matter what rom i flashed all i got was bootloops. I had to get the stock froyo ruu.exe that you run from your pc and install it that way. Then once installed boot up and go to settings/sd & phone storage and do a factory reset from there. This factory reset is a true reset as it wipes out vzw programing also. After reset folow on screen steps to reactivate your phone, you can skip the rest of the setup. Once thats done your good to go just flash clockwork or amon ra recovery and then flash what ever rom you want. No guarantees but it worked for me.
NOTE: This assumes you are s-off, if your not after flashing the ruu you will have to use unrevoked to regain root and s-off again.
You can also try wiping /system and /boot.
*token post to get my post count high enough to ask for help in the hacking section, dumb rule btw. FAIL*
Mine is now stuck in a continuous boot as well. It's not rooted and have no idea how to fix it.
I see instructions in this thread but they mean nothing to someone who doesn't know what the abbreviations stand for or how to go about the commands required.
sl4m said:
*token post to get my post count high enough to ask for help in the hacking section, dumb rule btw. FAIL*
Mine is now stuck in a continuous boot as well. It's not rooted and have no idea how to fix it.
I see instructions in this thread but they mean nothing to someone who doesn't know what the abbreviations stand for or how to go about the commands required.
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if you are non root. you will need to download the RUU.exe for 2.2 and install if from you pc.
http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-...mplest-instructions-ever-windows-xp-only.html
follow that and your phone will be back to the day you got it out of the box.
All the recommendations prior to Synisterwolf's post require root.
Some of the "abbreviations" are detailed in the Droid Incredible Development section. If you head over there you can read up on a beginners guide to root terms and helpful links in one of the top four threads namely:
If You're New to Modding/Rooting, Read This First! (Updated 08/05/10)
I will say though:
CM7.1 = CyanogenMod 7.1 (this is a rom)
OTA = Over The Air
2.2 = Froyo (Android software version 2.2)
RUU = basically refers to a file that people use to revert back to the Droid Incredible's pre-root status. Although there are additional steps as well.
SlimSnoopOS said:
All the recommendations prior to Synisterwolf's post require root.
Some of the "abbreviations" are detailed in the Droid Incredible Development section. If you head over there you can read up on a beginners guide to root terms and helpful links in one of the top four threads namely:
If You're New to Modding/Rooting, Read This First! (Updated 08/05/10)
I will say though:
CM7.1 = CyanogenMod 7.1 (this is a rom)
OTA = Over The Air
2.2 = Froyo (Android software version 2.2)
RUU = basically refers to a file that people use to revert back to the Droid Incredible's pre-root status. Although there are additional steps as well.
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RUU = ROM Update Utility
no luck, I installed the program on my XP machine, but the app can't connect to the phone.
The phone literally keeps rebooting over and over.
sl4m said:
no luck, I installed the program on my XP machine, but the app can't connect to the phone.
The phone literally keeps rebooting over and over.
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Then its gotta be a hardware failure.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (AMOLED HTC Incredible)
wow... what a bummer. thanks for the help anyway, it's much appreciated.
sl4m said:
no luck, I installed the program on my XP machine, but the app can't connect to the phone.
The phone literally keeps rebooting over and over.
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Does it give any specific error code when it says it can't connect to the phone?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to have HTC sync installed on your pc to use an ruu.exe? Do you have that installed?
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I'll try it again to verify the code, I'm pretty sure it was "170"
sl4m said:
*token post to get my post count high enough to ask for help in the hacking section, dumb rule btw. FAIL*
Mine is now stuck in a continuous boot as well. It's not rooted and have no idea how to fix it.
I see instructions in this thread but they mean nothing to someone who doesn't know what the abbreviations stand for or how to go about the commands required.
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I had this issue the first time i rooted my phone and attempted to put on a ROM, and i resolved it when i found this post to get back to stock. I also used this to fix a problem where my phone had a black screen with a line through it on booting to recovery or attempting to do a nandroid back up:
droidforums.net/forum/droid-incredible-hacks/95406-how-correctly-unroot-incredible.html
All i did was basically use the PB31IMG Method without turning s=on, ( i had stock radio and still have 7.28 )
1) download that PB31IMG.zip and drop it on the root of your sd card ( it has to be named ( PB31IMG.zip ) so make use you have file extensions showing on your PC.
2) boot to hboot and and let see the file and install it
3) used unrevoked ( remove sd card ) to aquire root again.
idk if this helps, but this seems to get me out of the few weird situations i had
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I'll try it again to verify the code, I'm pretty sure it was "170"
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Check this out to fix your 170 error.
http://androidforums.com/incredible...170-171-solution-windows-7-a.html#post1472468
This low key happened to me and I booted in to HBOOT and went to clear storage and it did its thing and booted up, from there I had to activate it then I was set!
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I apologiz if this has been answered, or beat into hte ground, or what. I cant really find an answer, and not sure what to search for either.
I recently noticed that my hboot is "s-on". I still have root, and su and everything. ?I want to update hboot from .76.2000 to the latest, which is 2.16.00.
I see I can go to this revolutionary website and generate a key which allows me to get s-off, but it looks like thats for rooting a brand new ohone. mine is already rooted, just has S-ON.
can I flash hboot 2.16.00, then flash that revolutionary patch/s-off and be in good shape, or would that mess something up? I'm trying to flash the anthrax kernel, and I need something higher than .76
Interestingly I had a very similar issue yesterday. If you have some qxdm files on the root of your sdcard, and can't mount the sdcard, this may work for you. I had to execute a couple of commands in fastboot mode. I am assuming with these steps that you have a computer, win/lin/mac whatever with adb already configured, etc.
Power off phone
Remove sdcard
Power on holding vol down
Select Fastboot
Connect USB to computer
Open cmd prompt/terminal on computer
Execute
Code:
fastboot oem enableqxdm 0
Execute
Code:
fastboot oem eraseconfig
Power off phone
Insert sdcard
Rejoice!
I really hope this works for you, I wasted a couple of hours digging around google to find this.
Flash the unrevoked forever zip through recovery, not sure if it's compatible with your hboot or radio, but it's worth a shot.
You can always RUU to like 3.70 and run unrevoked. I'd prefer that over updating to the latest and running revolutionary since unrevoked doesn't use a different hboot and is easier to unroot, but you can do either if you don't find a different way.
Happy New Year!
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jasongthang said:
I apologiz if this has been answered, or beat into hte ground, or what. I cant really find an answer, and not sure what to search for either.
I recently noticed that my hboot is "s-on". I still have root, and su and everything. ?I want to update hboot from .76.2000 to the latest, which is 2.16.00.
I see I can go to this revolutionary website and generate a key which allows me to get s-off, but it looks like thats for rooting a brand new ohone. mine is already rooted, just has S-ON.
can I flash hboot 2.16.00, then flash that revolutionary patch/s-off and be in good shape, or would that mess something up? I'm trying to flash the anthrax kernel, and I need something higher than .76
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What recovery where you using? And what did you wipe before this happened? You seem to have hit the sake thing as me, but my recovery was gone, as well as my Rom.
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I'm using Amon Ra
I was following this guide [Guide][31 Dec] Rooting and Sense Guide! to try and flash everything decently and how it should be. I flash the newest radios/nv/wimax the way it shows. I got to the kernel, he recommended Anthrax, so I downloaded it and flashed it. The phone wouldnt boot past the splash screen.
So I pull the battery, and pwr+vol down because I want to get into recovery. Well it boots normally into the white hboot screen, and I happen to look at the security, it says S-ON. Huh, thats weird, but everything is working normally (i think) so I just go into recovery, and flash ChopSuey's kernel. THAT doesnt let me boot past the splash screen.
So looking more at Anthrax thread, I notice that you need to have a higher hboot int order to flash the Anthrax kernel successfully, i have .76.2000. Someone has a link for a .93 hboot, so I download and flash it. I flash the Anthrax kernel from recovery, but now the phone wont boot, it just keeps going back to the white hboot screen. I have the phone working now by just re-flashing the rom (evo classic), but I want to get the S-ON situation fixed, I want to have the proper hboot that I need, and I would LIKE to get the Anthrax kernel working, although I could go to another one if its just not going to work.
Is there a good write-up on just what exactly the hboot is and what it does? I never read up on it because it never seemed to be something I needed.
Thanks for your replies.
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Flash the unrevoked forever zip through recovery, not sure if it's compatible with your hboot or radio, but it's worth a shot.
You can always RUU to like 3.70 and run unrevoked. I'd prefer that over updating to the latest and running revolutionary since unrevoked doesn't use a different hboot and is easier to unroot, but you can do either if you don't find a different way.
Happy New Year!
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Are you pretty much saying to just completely flash back to stock un-rooted, and start all over again? That would be fine with me, would that straighten out any hboot problems as well, as far as putting the hboot back to the way it should be, or was?
It's not a bad idea. RUU back to stock, accept the updates, then root using whatever the most current version is.
Ok, messed around and updated with a back-to-stock pc36img, the hboot version was still .93... So now I've successfully rooted with unrevoked. s-off, super user, everything is fine, but i'm still at the .93 hboot.
What exactly is hboot, and can I update it to 2.16.0001? How do i know which hboot i should be on?
Also, I apologize again but its been a while. My phone is running clockwork recovery. Can I just flash the amon ra recovery zip through clockwork?
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Ok, messed around and updated with a back-to-stock pc36img, the hboot version was still .93... So now I've successfully rooted with unrevoked. s-off, super user, everything is fine, but i'm still at the .93 hboot.
What exactly is hboot, and can I update it to 2.16.0001? How do i know which hboot i should be on?
Also, I apologize again but its been a while. My phone is running clockwork recovery. Can I just flash the amon ra recovery zip through clockwork?
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No reason the upgrade your HBoot. Latest doesn't necessarily mean best. I wouldn't go any higher than 0.97, personally, since that's the last version that's downgradable.
You'll be fine with what you have.
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No reason the upgrade your HBoot. Latest doesn't necessarily mean best. I wouldn't go any higher than 0.97, personally, since that's the last version that's downgradable.
You'll be fine with what you have.
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Captain, any idea why some of us seem to be having trouble restoring back, while others aren't?
I'm almost at my wits end here. The hours I've put into this makes me feel like I'm close, but the honest truth is that I've yet to so much as get my device to stop showing up as a Qualcomm Diag Mgr, when I first turn the phone on, & haven't even gotten root or S-Off yet.
I've got a HW0004 evo, which I'd previously rooted with unrevoked & 2 - 3 months ago had rooted with unrevoked forever. I was running Decks, with a 32 gb sd card, which I was constantly having to run parted on b/c my sd-ext was losing it's filesystem, and my last attempt to fix this without going back to a 16 gb card was to switch from amonRA to TWRP 2.0, then repartition with a ext4 partition this time. It had been running smoothly for a week, if not longer, so I decided that I could go ahead & flash firerat's mod again, this time with a more accurate (and smaller) system partition. When I rebooted I started having this issue.
I'm somehow back to S-ON, 2.10.0001, 2.15.00.11.19 radio, with no access to adb. When I tried to flash the RUU that you posted over on MikMIk, to go back to stock 3.70, i had a ton of problems getting it to actually complete (everything from stopping in the middle of it, to going to a black screen, as if it had stopped, then coming back on & looking like it was going to finish, to stopping when I got to the reboot screen, but I'm pretty sure that it did finally flash. The only problem is that it still won't recognize my phone when I run unrevoked3, and it won't stay on long enough to let me figure out why.
ncadden said:
Captain, any idea why some of us seem to be having trouble restoring back, while others aren't?
I'm almost at my wits end here. The hours I've put into this makes me feel like I'm close, but the honest truth is that I've yet to so much as get my device to stop showing up as a Qualcomm Diag Mgr, when I first turn the phone on, & haven't even gotten root or S-Off yet.
I've got a HW0004 evo, which I'd previously rooted with unrevoked & 2 - 3 months ago had rooted with unrevoked forever. I was running Decks, with a 32 gb sd card, which I was constantly having to run parted on b/c my sd-ext was losing it's filesystem, and my last attempt to fix this without going back to a 16 gb card was to switch from amonRA to TWRP 2.0, then repartition with a ext4 partition this time. It had been running smoothly for a week, if not longer, so I decided that I could go ahead & flash firerat's mod again, this time with a more accurate (and smaller) system partition. When I rebooted I started having this issue.
I'm somehow back to S-ON, 2.10.0001, 2.15.00.11.19 radio, with no access to adb. When I tried to flash the RUU that you posted over on MikMIk, to go back to stock 3.70, i had a ton of problems getting it to actually complete (everything from stopping in the middle of it, to going to a black screen, as if it had stopped, then coming back on & looking like it was going to finish, to stopping when I got to the reboot screen, but I'm pretty sure that it did finally flash. The only problem is that it still won't recognize my phone when I run unrevoked3, and it won't stay on long enough to let me figure out why.
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Well I know quite a few people that used TWRP had similar issues (sd card issues aside). But it could be firerat's that was the last straw. Let's say that you have bad blocks on your system partition, but then you use the mod to reduce the size if the partition to a size that *should* be big enough to accomodate everything, but due to your bad blocks, actually isn't. That would likely lead to corruption of your system partition, and everything would go downhill from there. Personally, I've tried to reproduce most of these issues on my device with TWRP and haven't had any success. My phone always works fine. I think it just comes down to everyone's devices being different, and the bad blocks causing device corruption one way or another with the ones that fail.
jasongthang said:
I apologiz if this has been answered, or beat into hte ground, or what. I cant really find an answer, and not sure what to search for either.
I recently noticed that my hboot is "s-on". I still have root, and su and everything. ?I want to update hboot from .76.2000 to the latest, which is 2.16.00.
I see I can go to this revolutionary website and generate a key which allows me to get s-off, but it looks like thats for rooting a brand new ohone. mine is already rooted, just has S-ON.
can I flash hboot 2.16.00, then flash that revolutionary patch/s-off and be in good shape, or would that mess something up? I'm trying to flash the anthrax kernel, and I need something higher than .76
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I know how to fix this had the same problem a few months back
1 : Download the stock RUU executable for your PC
2 : Make sure you have the htc sync drivers installed on your PC
3 : Enable USB debugging in your phone's settings menu
4 : Hook your phone up to PC and run the RUU (This will return it 100% to stock)
5 : You will know need to root again. (this is the only way I got through this problem)
6 : After you root s will be off (delete or rename any PC36IMG.zip after you have used them from your SD card)
Here is the RUU that got me out of the same problem they won't let me post links yet just google this....
RUU_SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.53.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.0808_NV_2.15_release_209995_signed
My phone is back to....somewhat normal now, i think lol.
I may just be having issues with the particular rom I'm on. But everything seems fine.
I have reverted back to hboot eng .76.2 because I wasnt able to fastboot with .93, and I wanted to flash a custom boot image. When I flashed the .76 hboot, I wasnt able to boot my phone, i could only bounce between recovery and hboot. What seemed to fix this is reflashing the rom. I only wiped dalvik and cache, nothing else. This allowed me to boot right up normally, and I have fastboot commands. But I'm back to square one in that I don't have that anthrax kernel running anymore. I'm thinking of jumping back on the MIUI train though.
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace the phone. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
wigmuke said:
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace it. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
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You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
synisterwolf said:
You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
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The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
wigmuke said:
The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
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actually its better to keep it s=off so this type of situation wont happen. Your carrier cant see your hboot from my understanding on how this phone works. They dont care if you have root or not, unless you are trying to exchange the phone for another one from them or for insurance reasons. With root you only void your warranty on the phone and not your contract or anything to do with VZW. S=off is just a NAND lock, meaning you cant add your own custom recover to the phone, and you are limited to builds that come from VZW themselves (ie the security signature check).
If you ever want to take the phone back to them because its defective or call insurance then you need to remove root and S=on. but thats the only time you need to toggle the NAND lock.
ok so you will need to ruu to stock, downgrade then gain s=off over again:
for the ruu for GB:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227279
a guide to do this all after you ruu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
wigmuke said:
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
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You might have lost root if you did the ruu from hboot. to check download the app "super user" from market that will tell you if you still have root or not.
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you recommend?
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
wigmuke said:
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you all recommend?
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unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
Edit: fixed link
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wigmuke said:
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
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lol now worries. easiest way to get to the 10 limit is just pad the count in here. ie just say something 10 times and you are good to go.
synisterwolf said:
unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
Edit: fixed link
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Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
wigmuke said:
Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
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Nope I'm RunNing that one and it works well.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (AMOLED HTC Incredible)
Ok so I'm an extreme noob with roms and themes. I recently rooted my wifes evo 4G and she wants a rom and theme on it and I have no clue what im doing. So I'm hoping this post will point me in the right direction. I rooted the phone per this exact method succesfully here. I also have a screenshot of the software versions if that helps. If there is anything else i can provide to further help my quest please let me know.
easy stuff
to change the ROM on the EVO is easy you can download ROM Manager from the market and it will give you and option of downloading custom roms for your device, choose one and rom manager will do the rest to include backing up your current rom. Themes are to easy also again on the Market download ADW and you can browse thru many themes and again once you find one you like it will do install it for you. I hope this helps.
Bulldog's Right
ROM Manager is the easiest way to play around with ROMS. (Have to pay up for the Premium version for the good stuff, though.)
I've use Swagged Out Stock and it's good.
~Jason
Rom manager +evo = waste of time root your phone flash amon RA recovery and use it to install roms unless you want to spend all your time trying to get your phone working again then by all means use rom manager and cwm, cwm doesn't wipe properly causing serious issues when you boot into the rom, everything from force closes to stuff just plain not working
We are legion, for we are many
Sent from my Anonymous DeathStar in the depths of GalaXy S2
Per your post if you are s-on(unlocked) and not s-off I'd advise following captain throwbacks guide to downgrade your hboot and attain s-off, if you are s-off search for and locate amon RA recovery in pc36img.zip format place it on SD card and let it search for and update your recovery by pressing volume+ once it finds the PC36IMG.zip , once you have amon rRA find a rom you want to install and download it to you SD card, now boot to amonra and navigate to nandroid(backup/restore) and create a backup selecting the preselcted options plus wimax(this will take some time between 5 and 30 mins)back to the main menu and navigation to the wipe menu, select and wipe each option except battery stats and SD card atleast once (I do each 3x personally just to make sure they are thoroughly wiped) now back out to the main menu and select install from SD card, navigate to your ROM zip wherever you placed it if you downloaded it from the phone itself it will most likely be in the folder named download, select the zip and then install it, let it update may take a few mins to complete depending on the roms size now navigate back to the main menu and reboot you phone you now have a custom rom, to install a theme you will need to find one specific to the rom you choose wipe only cache and dalvik.cache install the theme zip and reboot and you're now themed.
We are legion, for we are many
Sent from my Anonymous DeathStar in the depths of GalaXy S2
thank you thank you thank you so pleased with the answers this helps a ton. just one question what is "s-on/s-off"?
power off phone. Then power on by holding volume down while pushing power button. That takes you to hboot. Hboot will show your status. If you want s-off (and believe me, you do), follow the link provided above.
Follow everything EVIL-KONCEPT has said,....its all true. And stay away from ROMmanager and CWM, unless you wanna spend all your days trying to figure out why the ROMs you flash are all Fd up. CWM doesn't work worth a damn on Evo. Use amonRA.
Welcome, and good luck. Great community, all will help.
Sent from my PC36100 using xda premium
Another great place to look at is
HipKats guide - it has some great information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=138691
sent from my EVO running some version of ICS
So should I start from stock? If so how do I do that? Sorry bout so many questions I am used to my epic and the evo is way different. Also that link to the other thread is not working.
Just click the link in my signature
HipKat said:
Just click the link in my signature
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so i did this and already have a problem. i downloaded the amon ra and it was named PC36IMG.zip already so i put it in the root of the phone and when i booted to bootloader it says "main version is older!" then "update fail" any ideas how to get amon ra on this phone?
if it says main version is older, then it's trying to read a radio image. Do you have 2 PC36Imgs on root of SD?
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no only one pc36img. im trying to unroot atm.
Like everyone else I use AmonRa to flash roms etc. rom manager is good for a noob thats how I started off, but Know clockwork is not that good, all i can say is read, read, read, and when you think u got it read it again, its really not that hard.
lol yeah i know that that is what i been doing for what seems like ever. i have yet to be able to find anything that talks about my issue and i was unable to return the phone to stock it went to the progress bar got to 14% "checking header" and stayed there for an indefinite amount of time. so I am pretty confused and i guess ill try the rom manager route and see how that goes.
sephirothkadaj said:
lol yeah i know that that is what i been doing for what seems like ever. i have yet to be able to find anything that talks about my issue and i was unable to return the phone to stock it went to the progress bar got to 14% "checking header" and stayed there for an indefinite amount of time. so I am pretty confused and i guess ill try the rom manager route and see how that goes.
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If you were able to use the HTCDev.com method from that thread to unlock the bootloader, you should be able to easily flash a custom recovery (RA-supersonic). I can walk you through the steps to do that. Once that part is done, flashing a new ROM is easy.
Avoid ROM Manager and CWM recovery.
If you can report back what it says on the HBOOT (Bootloader) screen, it would be helpful, just so we can confirm that you are only UNLOCKED and S-ON, not S-OFF (it makes a slight difference).
well per the OP i have an unlocked evo per the htc website and this thread and the hboot screen says unlocked s-on. my issue is i am unable to flash amon ra recovery because when i do it says main version is older and i named it correctly checked re-checked and re-re-checked a thousand + times. i dont have another pc36img.zip anywere in the root of the sd or even on it for that matter. and i tried to return it to stock and it freezes at checking header. i will try whatever you guys want me to with the exception to rom manager. too many people advise on not useing it for me to risk it. anything else? i take a pic of the hboot screen if you need. and i have a pic attached to the OP of the system settings.
The main thing you wanna get is s-off, or generally you're s-ol... So you did use revolutionary, generated the key, talked to your main OS, and it said you were good? You'll know when you volume down and power on your phone, it'll say revolutionary s-off... It's all downhill from there... Are you saying your phone won't boot at all? Maybe I'm missing something, just trying to help;-)
Edit, I agree vvvvvvvv although sometimes things don't always go so well and even seasoned people as well as noobs get stuck and then ya kinda have to take it step by step... Hopefully he got it figured out but kinda hard to tell from what I read;-)
Do whatever captain_throwback says. He knows all.
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Sorry for all the confusion. Let me try to explain it better. I went to htcdev and did the whole process to unlock the phone. The thread I used to unlock had me put cwm recovery on the phone. That was fine until my wife wanted a diff rom and theme on her phone. So I got told to flash amon-ra recovery. The process for flashing amon-ra was to go to the amon-ra thread and download supersonic, then rename it exactly "PC36IMG.ZIP" so I did that. I checked md5 made sure it wasn't pc36img.zip.zip made sure there wasn't a copy in the root and even in the whole sd card. Now I still get an error when I flash amon-ra. It says "main version is older!" Then "update failed." I have the 2.18 hboot 2.3.5 android. And if there is any other info I can give to get assistance I would appreciate it. O yeah forgot, I also tried to return it to stock via the .exe file and it just freezes on checking header so I can't even start all over from stock :-( I hope that clarefied everything.