At WWDC keynote, world saw a giant called Apple kill the paid MobileMe and launch iCloud. Now, the MobileMe killer service , MyPhone by Microsoft is about to see its own end!
Today, Microsoft announced that the service will stop syncing the content from Windows Mobile 6.x, 7th August, 2011 onwards. According to official documentation here, the service will stop saving content to the cloud. The contacts, calendar entries and photos saved till 7th of August will be moved to the Skydrive space corresponding to the MyPhone Live Id. Other content like videos, documents and browser favorites (if anybody bothers about IE favorites) will have to be downloaded and backed up on the local computer manually. Article also mentions that the MyPhone site will be shut down on October 6, 2011. Though Microsoft promises to preserve data for one complete year and to provide hard copies in form of CD and DVD, is says nothing about pricing, shipping charges and region support.
On the side note, Marketplace for Windows Mobile 6.x is also being shut down on July 15th, 2011. I wonder whether anybody even uses it. Developers who keep their apps on the marketplace might be concerned though.
So, it seems clear that Microsoft is in the process of discarding Windows Mobile completely, as expected. But we did want MyPhone service to be alive, didn't we? Correct me if I am wrong but, there's no service on any of the platforms which syncs content, especially SMS, so much smoothly.
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Argh So Saddly....
Will be it possible to use a skydrive app for windows mobile in order to synch our data after the end of MyPhone ?
We need to find an alternative !
We are a lot of WM user, so we need do it !
Nixeus said:
Argh So Saddly....
Will be it possible to use a skydrive app for windows mobile in order to synch our data after the end of MyPhone ?
We need to find an alternative !
We are a lot of WM user, so we need do it !
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Well as of now, we all know there isn't a decent alternative to MyPhone on any of the platforms! Though, WP7 and Android have contacts in sync with corresponding accounts. All we can officially and easily do is to use Windows Live on device to sync contacts along with mail or use Activesync and set it up to sync with Google as exchange server. Last but not least (and a bit annoying) use outlook and cable!
For all those peeps missing MyPhone
Have you tried this. I have found it to be a good alternative to MyPhone.
Lookout
actually i feel google sync is way better for contact and calendar sync as compare to myphone. Editing the data is much easier inside gmail "my contact" and google calander.
But for sms and document, i don't any decent piece of online sync that's as good as myphone.
I've been trying to upload a photo to Facebook using My Phone from my Motorola Q9h, but for the past few days, I've been getting the "Unexpected Error" message. Has anyone else been getting this?
akshay2000 said:
....there's no service on any of the platforms which syncs content, especially SMS, so much smoothly..
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+1
i will be missing it badly
Hey try FUNAMBOL . it can sync all your info to any platform ,be it apple ,windows or android .
I never use My-Phone, neither Marketplace I use.
It would be cool if MS close down Marketplace for WP7 too.
Laurentius26 said:
I never use My-Phone, neither Marketplace I use.
It would be cool if MS close down Marketplace for WP7 too.
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Do you use any Microsoft thing on your HD2? What you're going to do if they close WP7 marketplace? With WinMo it was okay as it was grown up installing CABs. But for WP7, generalized method is marketplace, and it just works! Anyway, if you don't use MyPhone, I guess you never gave it a try. Its one of very few things from Microsoft which work surprisingly well!
I did try My-Phone and don't need it.
To sync my contacts and calendar I use Google Exchange or sync with my desktop.
That's all I need.
And if I like to install a cab I install a cab, no Marketplace is needed for that as well isn't?
All these Marketplaces make people more depended to one manufacturer.
Cabs/apps can be provided in many other ways.
akshay2000 said:
Do you use any Microsoft thing on your HD2? What you're going to do if they close WP7 marketplace? With WinMo it was okay as it was grown up installing CABs. But for WP7, generalized method is marketplace, and it just works! Anyway, if you don't use MyPhone, I guess you never gave it a try. Its one of very few things from Microsoft which work surprisingly well!
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The m:IQ service seems to be good with Sync for Windows Mobile & Android devices for Contacts, Text Messages (SMS), Calender, Calls, Photos & Video and Bookmarks.
So over all this service seems to be promising (no mobile tracking though) all good so far. Also we can use MyPhone to get all my stuffs from MS and Sync back to m:IQ. We need to see how the sync is working for all supported components like 2 way sync for all components...
Cheers!!!
Laurentius26 said:
I did try My-Phone and don't need it.
To sync my contacts and calendar I use Google Exchange or sync with my desktop.
That's all I need.
And if I like to install a cab I install a cab, no Marketplace is needed for that as well isn't?
All these Marketplaces make people more depended to one manufacturer.
Cabs/apps can be provided in many other ways.
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You had said they should close WP7 marketplace. Its nice. Ya, nobody would want WM6.5 marketplace. And i don't think marketplace is going to make us dependent! We always perform out-of-way things. We have Android market and we install APKs too!
Regarding Google Exchange, it would be too great if it could do SMS!
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My-phone already denying to sync
ForgetfulGuru said:
Have you tried this. I have found it to be a good alternative to MyPhone.
Lookout
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It cant save your contacts & messages just data i guess. is anyone using it ?
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prabhat said:
The m:IQ service seems to be good with Sync for Windows Mobile & Android devices for Contacts, Text Messages (SMS), Calender, Calls, Photos & Video and Bookmarks.
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Not working .... always fail to connect to server
NOOOOOO
Why? I have tons of Texts, pictures
damn it, microsoft I really liked this service
what happens now? texts messages will be moved to skydrive space too?
How can I get my stuff out? can I make a backup on my computer?
Laurentius26 said:
I did try My-Phone and don't need it.
To sync my contacts and calendar I use Google Exchange or sync with my desktop.
That's all I need.
And if I like to install a cab I install a cab, no Marketplace is needed for that as well isn't?
All these Marketplaces make people more depended to one manufacturer.
Cabs/apps can be provided in many other ways.
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Rightly said dear....
I too, dont use market place neither myphone. If I need to install any utility I just need the cab for that. Simple...
its still on... just backed up all txt and other content to phone... here is the screenshot....
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WOW!!! So far this is sickkk..I love it. I'm still checking it out, once I'm done - I'll post some feedback.
Check it out guys, It's worth it.
lukybandit said:
WOW!!! So far this is sickkk..I love it. I'm still checking it out, once I'm done - I'll post some feedback.
Check it out guys, It's worth it.
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I used it for a day or so, and then promptly uninstalled it.
I found that it killed my battery twice as fast, overall made the phone really sluggish and never properly uploaded my contacts..
But hey that's just me
Oh Yeah? I've been using it for the past 30 mins, so far so good. hmm, wierd. Actually, the first time I did the sync, it didn't sync it properly, mean it did but some of my messages were missing, i resynced it 30 mins ago i.e. once again and now it's perfect so far. Well, I hope it's something I can use and not let go because so far I really like it.
Everyone else, whoever has used it or is going to use it, please post some feedback.
P.S: I've figured out everything except visual voicemail. How does that work?
lukybandit said:
Oh Yeah? I've been using it for the past 30 mins, so far so good. hmm, wierd. Actually, the first time I did the sync, it didn't sync it properly, mean it did but some of my messages were missing, i resynced it 30 mins ago i.e. once again and now it's perfect so far. Well, I hope it's something I can use and not let go because so far I really like it.
Everyone else, whoever has used it or is going to use it, please post some feedback.
P.S: I've figured out everything except visual voicemail. How does that work?
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ive been using it for a few months..good stuff.
I use it. I'll admit it's a startup hog but worth it. It can be a life saver. Only problem I have had is one. Now I'm eventually going to get around to fixing it lol. Here is the only problem.
All of us have at least one time or another had problems with Active Sync. I had to re-sync it and Outlook also saves my contacts. What occurred for me is if you have to reinstall Active sync it will add a double amount of contacts. I'm my case 4 of each...LOL. Basically when first installing Dashwire it will give you the options to overwrite some or leave them alone.
Either way I'm going to have to stop dashwire from syncing. Then exit it. Then thru active sync uncheck outlook contacts. Then delete All of my contacts. The thing that champs my @ss is I set up voice command on some of my contacts which is a pain.
I also can't figure out the custom way to save via contacts---sim manager---backup contacts. It tells you that you need to delete them first wtf?
Put it this way I always backup my stuff. I don't want to not be prepared for a crash.
Looks good, but it seems to drain the battery a lot faster. Good stuff but I will give it another shot once my extended battery comes in.
Appreciate the write-up and the feedback!
Battery drain is an issue that we've been working on for the past couple of weeks. We're still not done, but we've added some things that should make a difference. We do really suggest our users set Dashwire to automatic sync because with manual the sync technology isn't optimized.
And sorry to hear about the contact dupes. As you've discovered, contacts added to a new or reset phone using Dashwire will be duplicated if a user attempts to synchronize with Outlook via ActiveSync after the fact. You first have to add your contacts to your phone via ActiveSync before adding Dashwire to your phone. If you start with ActiveSync first, then you won't see any problems with contact duplicates. After that there shouldn't be any issues.
Visual Voicemail works through a 3rd party application called CallWave. You have to sign-up for it first, input your credentials, and then it should work straight from the dashboard.
Any more questions or feature requests feel free to let us know. We take what user's say and suggest pretty seriously.
dashwire said:
Appreciate the write-up and the feedback!
Battery drain is an issue that we've been working on for the past couple of weeks. We're still not done, but we've added some things that should make a difference. We do really suggest our users set Dashwire to automatic sync because with manual the sync technology isn't optimized.
And sorry to hear about the contact dupes. As you've discovered, contacts added to a new or reset phone using Dashwire will be duplicated if a user attempts to synchronize with Outlook via ActiveSync after the fact. You first have to add your contacts to your phone via ActiveSync before adding Dashwire to your phone. If you start with ActiveSync first, then you won't see any problems with contact duplicates. After that there shouldn't be any issues.
Visual Voicemail works through a 3rd party application called CallWave. You have to sign-up for it first, input your credentials, and then it should work straight from the dashboard.
Any more questions or feature requests feel free to let us know. We take what user's say and suggest pretty seriously.
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First off, I would like to Congratulate you and your team for making this happen. Very beautiful concept! Your team has done a great job! Keep up the good work.
Battery Drain:
I don't know if I've experienced battery drain but if other users are, that should be your #1 concern because you want people to use Dashwire and when it comes to the battery, people will prefer a ever ready battery over battery drain. I've set my account to automatic sync as I have an unlimited data plan. If I do experience battery drain, I will post feedback here. I'm glad to know your working on it, though.
Automatic Startup:
I got rid of the Automatic startup as my bootup process was taking longer then it should. I personally noticed a slow bootup so, I'd appreciate if you could work on that. However, from nowonwards I will manually start the program so it syncs when I choose to until you can work on a fix.
Duplicate Contacts:
No comments as I didn't experience this.
Visual Voicemail:
This is a great service but it sucks to know CallWave charges for their services. Could you not offer a free service for voicemail? I'm aware of youmail but youmail does not work for International users right now. If you can look into this, that'd be great. I'd be definitely interested and I'm sure others will be too.
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Personal Issues:
Contacts
So far, everythings work as it should but my contacts are out of order.
Page 1 starts with I, J, K, L, M, N, O, H, P, R, S.
Page 2 continues with S, T, U, V, W, Y, Z, A
Page 3 ends with A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H
Any idea how I could fix this? Please let me know, Thanks.
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Suggestions
1) Ringtones: Right now, they are only accessed from the phone storage. Any way to access the ring tones on storage card?
2) Real-time Home Screen: Maybe you could use this to control your phone, for screen shots etc
3) Transfer ringtones: Transfer directly from websites to dashwire which will sync to the phone directly. For example, you come across a ringtone site, you right click it and it says transfer to dashwire which automatically syncs it with the phone into the right folder and you can change your ringtone from the website. This could help when you don't have wires and you want to upload a new ring tone etc.
4) Change Wallpaper: Using the above idea, you can do the same with wallpapers.
5) Backup Text messages to PC: Download textmessages as a .txt file to PC
6) Download Pictures or Videos to PC: Using this option, you can download pictures or videos to PC.
Those are some suggestions for now. Let me know what you think. Finally, Thanks for making this FREE. Looking forward to more updates in the future.
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Anyone try this? If so, post some feedback.
tried it...hate it. only backed up 1/2 of my contacts..... slow as molasses below freezing...
I just registered on the site, and went to m.dashwire.com on my phone to get the app.
I got the app and tried to install the cab but right when it finished downloaded it said. "instalation of dashwire-wm-2.0.0.354.cab was unsuccesful"
Whats the deal?
Im running on windows 6.1 kavana
i'm experiencing the same problem....can anyone upload a working .cab file?
i'm on kavana 6.1 and had no issues at all. been running it for about 20 hours now.
mjp, you think you could post your cab file plz?
kingtaco11 said:
I just registered on the site, and went to m.dashwire.com on my phone to get the app.
I got the app and tried to install the cab but right when it finished downloaded it said. "instalation of dashwire-wm-2.0.0.354.cab was unsuccesful"
Whats the deal?
Im running on windows 6.1 kavana
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Sorry about that... looks like in preparation for the release of some new features we made some changes to the server. In the process something broke down on our end and users are unable to install the mobile client at the moment. We are working on it right now, and I'll report here the moment we get everything working again.
Dashwire - I posted suggestions, comments and personal issues I was going through. Please look into it when you get a chance, Thanks.
You should now be able to download the Mobile Client.
@lukybandit: Looks like a great response that you posted that addressed a lot of key issues. I'll respond to it when I get a chance. Thanks for all the help and the feedback.
I just started using it right now and its syncing everything up. Seems pretty cool so far...lets see if it lags my phone.
The ui looks very Slick, but let us take a look at how people are using phones (and i take myself as example)
My main point is that this phone is a solution in search of a problem. it is using hypes from 1 or 2 years ago and is not focusing on real functionality.
facebook or network sites on my phone!! who wants that. i do not twitter, i have no facebook account, i do not use msn. does that mean i have empty tiles on my start page?
Zune or Xbox. i do not have a zune or xbox, i do not want to play online, and especially not with my phone.
data plan needed. I do not want a data plan. all these nice options work with a data plan. show us something that does not need an internet connection.
where is the phone? is this a phone? show me how to call people. can i even enter phone numbers? can i send sms messages?
take and share pictures. who takes pictures with a phone? it is nice to have a quickcamera in your pocket, but you take pictures with your real camera. you do not make a bad picture with your phone to upload it to some website where everybody can see how terrible you look.
In short: I use my phone to make calls, send sms, navigate and some internet for hotmail or emergency need for information. I like to have an easy game when i am waiting, and some eyecandy like weather to look at. finally i want to be able to make appointments on my phone that are synchronized with my hotmail agenda automatically. that is it.
this phone is a nice gadget for young people who want to be connected to their friends all the time. not for the middle-aged who use their phone as a tool.
sandervanzijl said:
The ui looks very Slick, but let us take a look at how people are using phones (and i take myself as example)
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Being that you're on this site, you're a poor example. You aren't a normal person (nor am I or anyone else on this site). But, I'll address your concerns anyways.
sandervanzijl said:
facebook or network sites on my phone!! who wants that. i do not twitter, i have no facebook account, i do not use msn. does that mean i have empty tiles on my start page?
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I, for one, want facebook and twitter on my phone. Even HTC realizes this is popular and integrated them into TouchFlo/Sense. But no, you won't have empty tiles. The very existence of any/all of the tiles is up to you. If you don't use them, they won't be there. But They aren't really "apps" per say but they're integrated into your contacts and pictures so there really isn't even a facebook or twitter app to even pin there in the first place.
sandervanzijl said:
Zune or Xbox. i do not have a zune or xbox, i do not want to play online, and especially not with my phone.
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You don't need a Zune or Xbox. Think of Zune as the replacement for Windows Media Player + a music store. Xbox is just the branding for games. Again, if you don't want them on there you don't have to have them.
sandervanzijl said:
data plan needed. I do not want a data plan. all these nice options work with a data plan. show us something that does not need an internet connection.
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Ummmmm if you don't want a data plan with a modern smartphone I have to question why you want a smartphone in the first place. The whole point is to have data connectivity. There's no reason the phone won't work without one though. If your carrier has the data disabled (which I doubt they will do for you) the phone will still work.
sandervanzijl said:
where is the phone? is this a phone? show me how to call people. can i even enter phone numbers? can i send sms messages?
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Here's the dialer (was noted to be not done)
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Don't have a screenshot of what happens when you press it but yes, there's a button to send texts.
You can also send texts right from the person's details in the "People hub".
sandervanzijl said:
take and share pictures. who takes pictures with a phone? it is nice to have a quickcamera in your pocket, but you take pictures with your real camera. you do not make a bad picture with your phone to upload it to some website where everybody can see how terrible you look.
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LOL. Maybe you look terrible but not all of us do. Believe it or not, lots of people use their phone to take quick pictures and upload them. Do you bash windows mobile 6 because it can do this?
sandervanzijl said:
In short: I use my phone to make calls, send sms, navigate and some internet for hotmail or emergency need for information. I like to have an easy game when i am waiting, and some eyecandy like weather to look at. finally i want to be able to make appointments on my phone that are synchronized with my hotmail agenda automatically. that is it.
this phone is a nice gadget for young people who want to be connected to their friends all the time. not for the middle-aged who use their phone as a tool.
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WP7 does everything you want it to... just a whole lot more as well. Not sure why "extra" stuff is a problem. You can customize the home screen with whatever you want so you would just have the phone dialier, SMS, IE, Games (Xbox), a weather app/hub, and the calendar on yours. The rest would just be unused features that are there for you to use if you stop being so grumpy and enjoy yourself a little bit and listen to some music and share pictures with your friends/family.
sandervanzijl said:
The ui looks very Slick, but let us take a look at how people are using phones (and i take myself as example)
My main point is that this phone is a solution in search of a problem. it is using hypes from 1 or 2 years ago and is not focusing on real functionality.
facebook or network sites on my phone!! who wants that. i do not twitter, i have no facebook account, i do not use msn. does that mean i have empty tiles on my start page?
Zune or Xbox. i do not have a zune or xbox, i do not want to play online, and especially not with my phone.
data plan needed. I do not want a data plan. all these nice options work with a data plan. show us something that does not need an internet connection.
where is the phone? is this a phone? show me how to call people. can i even enter phone numbers? can i send sms messages?
take and share pictures. who takes pictures with a phone? it is nice to have a quickcamera in your pocket, but you take pictures with your real camera. you do not make a bad picture with your phone to upload it to some website where everybody can see how terrible you look.
In short: I use my phone to make calls, send sms, navigate and some internet for hotmail or emergency need for information. I like to have an easy game when i am waiting, and some eyecandy like weather to look at. finally i want to be able to make appointments on my phone that are synchronized with my hotmail agenda automatically. that is it.
this phone is a nice gadget for young people who want to be connected to their friends all the time. not for the middle-aged who use their phone as a tool.
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This is the phone you want then.....you are not the audience for the WP7.
The dialer looks really boring!
I hope they´ll put more effort in it.. and the homescreen is a no go for me! Should fill the whole screen.. but overall 7 series looks great!
Just found a video showing Text messaging.
http://vimeo.com/9525086 around 8:50 mark.
Looks super simple and easy to use. Barely shows it though so it's hard to get a full sense of how it works.
sandervanzijl said:
The ui looks very Slick, but let us take a look at how people are using phones (and i take myself as example)
My main point is that this phone is a solution in search of a problem. it is using hypes from 1 or 2 years ago and is not focusing on real functionality.
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You're already wrong. Society is getting used to their phone doing more, and functionality is introduced here.
sandervanzijl said:
facebook or network sites on my phone!! who wants that. i do not twitter, i have no facebook account, i do not use msn. does that mean i have empty tiles on my start page?
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This shows you've paid no attention. You put whatever tiles you want on your Start page. If you don't have Facebook don't log into Facebook... Microsoft won't be angry at you. I for one have been needing this though
sandervanzijl said:
Zune or Xbox. i do not have a zune or xbox, i do not want to play online, and especially not with my phone.
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I don't have a Zune either, which is why I've been waiting for this phone. Zune on my phone! Yes! I don't have an XBox, but most people have friends and many people with friends don't mind sharing in an occasional game with them
sandervanzijl said:
data plan needed. I do not want a data plan. all these nice options work with a data plan. show us something that does not need an internet connection.
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A data plan is never usually needed on a smartphone.. but honestly, with the state of the industry these days, if you're never using the internet on your smartphone I'm not sure why you have one. The phone'll work fine over Wifi though, and it also works without any internet at all.
sandervanzijl said:
where is the phone? is this a phone? show me how to call people. can i even enter phone numbers? can i send sms messages?
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No, it's not a phone. They just rebranded it to 'Phone' for fun. The videos online of the dialer and SMS app being demoed were just flukes, and won't ship with the device
sandervanzijl said:
take and share pictures. who takes pictures with a phone? it is nice to have a quickcamera in your pocket, but you take pictures with your real camera.
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Me? All the time? The market decided long ago that phones need cameras, and Microsoft has decided that the minimum requirement will be 5mpx. Just like my last digital camera. So now your real camera is your phone, what's wrong with this? You can still carry around your 'real' camera in addition if you want, but I bet when you plug it in to charge it won't automatically sync to your PC over WiFi like this phone will.
sandervanzijl said:
In short: I use my phone to make calls, send sms, navigate and some internet for hotmail or emergency need for information. I like to have an easy game when i am waiting, and some eyecandy like weather to look at. finally i want to be able to make appointments on my phone that are synchronized with my hotmail agenda automatically. that is it.
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So do those things. Microsoft worked on the automatic syncing for you, and just because they did this for more than a calendar you complain that... actually, I'm not sure what your complaint is. What does "how is this functional" mean when you're saying that the phone has more functionality than you need?
sandervanzijl said:
this phone is a nice gadget for young people who want to be connected to their friends all the time. not for the middle-aged who use their phone as a tool.
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Because 1) once you reach middle age you have no friends and 2) young people of the social network generation don't deserve to have nice phones too
Ya it is a shame that many people don't get this phone. But I didn't get the iPhone as well at first either, but it was revolutionary and so is this device.
Multitasking won't exist in the way we are used to it, but I think services like Pandora will still be able to play music in the background. It doesn't bother me. In fact I have WinMo 6.5 set to close all apps. Only a few like Pandora are where I will just hit the home button to keep it open. There is hardly any need to keep other stuff open, it becomes complicated (most users are not gonna check their memory and close programs as needed).
But as for the start 'menu'. Its completely customizable. You can add applications as if it was a start menu and make it totally look like the iPhone (with square icons of course), or you can do a mix and match. If you don't sign into facebook, you'll never see facebook. Just think of the people hubs as your contacts. Zune is just a media player, and so much better looking than WMP and works much better.
As a Zune HD owner, I consider myself blessed in that I know how pinning something to the 'start' page already works. I also know how easy the software is to use, and even the Zune HD IE browser is great and it is based on IE6, so something based on modern IE7 and IE8 will be great.
And no you won't be able to install a shell like Xperia or HTC Sense. But the whole point is for a unified OS. That doesn't mean the phone isn't you, it just means that when a customer buys a Windows Phone that no matter who they buy the phone from, it will look and behave the same.
You need to really look at the videos again. The one on Channel 9 from MSDN is really good. It goes into depth and shows how you can move stuff around on the start screen.
Erm, I'm middle aged and I think Facebook is an excellent way to keep in touch with friends. Otherwise work and children just takes too much of my time.
Like just about everything out there, if you don't think you need the function, well, just don't use it.
Hi,
I just transfered ALL my text messages (3642 text messages) from my Kaiser to my TP2 with PIMBackup. I restored everything successful and wanted to see if everything has been transfered correctly.
Now I have the problem, that the Messaging-App takes DECADES to load the messages (about 1800 text messages in my inbox). Seriously it takes about 5 minutes, until the "windows-busy-icon" disappears. The Message app included in the slider, which only shows the newest 25 messages, takes "only" about 5 seconds, which is fine.
I have to admit, 1800 text messages is a lot, but my Kaiser had no problems at all with that amount of messages. As soon as I opened my Inbox on the Kaiser, I was able to open the messages right away.
On the TP2 on the other hand, I have to wait 5 minutes, until all the messages are loaded, before I can open a text messages.
My Inbox I have set to "Classic Mode" not the "Conversation Mode" (which I think needs even more resources).
For me, this is a BIG issue, because I text a lot - text message and Email - THATS why I bought the TP2 and not the HD2, because I appreciate the hardware keyboard. But having a Messaging App that needs 5 minutes to load makes me wanna go back to my Kaiser.
Does anyone know a solution???
Thanks,
Don
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€DIT 1:
I dont think it could be a memory problem:
Storage:
Total: 219.57
In use: 104.11
Free: 115.47
Program:
Total: 187.42
In use: 146.83
Free: 40.59
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€DIT 2:
By the way, if anyone knows a way how to create an extra folder (next to: inbox, outbox, sent items, drafts, deleted) in the messaging and email Apps, please let my know.
Don't store 1000 messages on your phone?
Also, dont close messaging through the task manager. If you leave it open it should open right away since everything will be cached.
Don-Carlo said:
€DIT 2:
By the way, if anyone knows a way how to create an extra folder (next to: inbox, outbox, sent items, drafts, deleted) in the messaging and email Apps, please let my know.
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When you're looking at your inbox, click the "menu" softbutton on the bottom right, then choose "tools", then "manage folders". Once there, you can create new folders or manage existing ones
burtonsnow8 said:
Don't store 1000 messages on your phone?
Also, dont close messaging through the task manager. If you leave it open it should open right away since everything will be cached.
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Well, the reason I have this phone is, that I'm using it for business,... and for business it is essential to safe and store your messages and have em available at any time. I mean, this ridiculously expensive device should be able to manage this matter properly, just like crappy $50 phones or previous models of the TP2 (like the Kaiser).
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sirphunkee said:
When you're looking at your inbox, click the "menu" softbutton on the bottom right, then choose "tools", then "manage folders". Once there, you can create new folders or manage existing ones
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Thanks for the advice, but the ROM I am using does not have this button (see attached screenshot). I tried to find this in the various setting menus, but couldnt find it. I'm gonna ask ark666 where to find it and/or how to do it.
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Thanks for the advice, but the ROM I am using does not have this button (see attached screenshot). I tried to find this in the various setting menus, but couldnt find it. I'm gonna ask ark666 where to find it and/or how to do it.
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Sorry, that looks like the HTC e-mail interface you're looking at there, you'll need to get to the underlying WM e-mail interface to do the steps I mentioned. There may be a way to turn just the HTC e-mail off (I don't know), but you can just go into settings and switch off sense altogether for a minute, then pull up e-mail and you should then have the options there.
Don-Carlo said:
Thanks for the advice, but the ROM I am using does not have this button (see attached screenshot). I tried to find this in the various setting menus, but couldnt find it. I'm gonna ask ark666 where to find it and/or how to do it.
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I think that option is available when you are viewing your messages via WM messaging client. You can get there a coupe routes. Navigate to your text tab in Sense, click all message soft key. Also under start menu there is a text message option (two message bubbles) which will take you to WM messaging.
You could also store your messages in the cloud (Microsoft MyPhone or other) and download them when you need (I know its bothersome, but it would also be a solution to storing 1000s of messages at all times).
I'm going to try downloading the 3000 messages from my old WM phone and see how my phone reacts.
Hey Sirphunkee and Burtonsnow8,
thanks for the advices again, but no success so far, unfortunately.
I switched off Sense and opened the WM Messaging Client, and could see the E-Mail accounts, but as soon as I access it, it jumps back to HTC Messaging Client. Same for the text messaging.
When in WM Messaging Client, there menu only offers "Options" and "Delete". The Options didnt offer and folder management.
I also tried to access the WM Messaging Client by "file explorer", but same story, it always jumps to the HTC Messaging Client.
Is it maybe possible to do this by registry editing? Or somehow through Total Commander?
Really appreciating your help here guys!
There are a couple apps for disabling htc messaging, not sure which will work for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1644359&postcount=14
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=115554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6095727&postcount=3
UPDATE:
Ok, seems like this is a problem of either Ark's ROM I'm using, OR the HTC Messaging Client. I just saw, that Ark just released a version of his ROM without the HTC Messaging client. Gonna test that one, next week.
@ burtonsno8: Thanks for the links, but Ark just released another ROM without HTC Messaging Client, seems like this would work with a fix. However, it would be interesting to know about your experience after flashing your 3k Messages on your TP2.
Don-Carlo said:
UPDATE:
Ok, seems like this is a problem of either Ark's ROM I'm using, OR the HTC Messaging Client. I just saw, that Ark just released a version of his ROM without the HTC Messaging client. Gonna test that one, next week.
@ burtonsno8: Thanks for the links, but Ark just released another ROM without HTC Messaging Client, seems like this would work with a fix. However, it would be interesting to know about your experience after flashing your 3k Messages on your TP2.
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I see a lot of people having similar issues w/ HTC messaging, so Ark's new release should definitely be helpful.
I'll be testing out my msgs later tonight, because this also seems to be an issue of many users.
Just an update on this one.
ARK's ROM without HTC Messaging client helps, but is unfortunately no solution.
For some reason, when I import my text messages via PIM Backup on my TP2, the text messages are saved in the "Program" part and not in the "Storage" part of the Memory,... so after importing 3.600 messages, I have 2.1 MB of program memory left, hence, my device works in slow-mo.
This is weird, because this is different on my Kaiser, where text messages are saved in the storage part of the memory.
Is there a registry hack, which determines, where text messages are saved?
I have exactly the same issue.
Got around 1600 SMS which was fine with the original
Windows Messaging(TP2 - first original ROM) ,
but takes really long with HTC Messaging (TP2- newest original ROM).
Contacted HTC support only to have them advise me
to backup my messages with Windows MyPhone.
I'd really like to know if there's a registry hack to disable
the HTC Messaging, back to Windows Messaging
without any performance issue.
As i have no idea how to do this, would really appreciate
if anyone could let us know how.
jyuken said:
I have exactly the same issue.
Got around 1600 SMS which was fine with the original
Windows Messaging(TP2 - first original ROM) ,
but takes really long with HTC Messaging (TP2- newest original ROM).
Contacted HTC support only to have them advise me
to backup my messages with Windows MyPhone.
I'd really like to know if there's a registry hack to disable
the HTC Messaging, back to Windows Messaging
without any performance issue.
As i have no idea how to do this, would really appreciate
if anyone could let us know how.
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Give this cab a try...I used a couple of different ones that did that same thing (disable HTC SMS app), this is the only one I can still turn up in my archives
Hi
Try this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664915
It helped me. It doesn't switch to WM sms client, it still uses HTC client, but it works now. Unfortunately, sollution from sirphunkee's post didn't work for me, and still that one has bugs.
Well, NONE of this will help, as long as the TP2 saves messages in the PROGRAM memory.
Like I wrote in my last update, after importing 3,600 messages I have 2.1 MB left in my PROGRAM memmory, while the the STORAGE memory is almost empty (120 MB left).
This was different on my other HTC devices,.. why does the TP2 save messages in the PROGRAM memory, that doest even make sense !?
So I'm using Josh's ROM and I'm having similar issues. This is what I posted in that thread with no replies...
"Anyone experiencing text message delays and freezes with this ROM? I have disabled Sense and installed SPB Mobile Shell. Threaded SMS and Exchange email from work. Very few apps. For some reason though, after I have a bunch of apps open, text messages won't open anymore or won't come in. Or they do and I cant open them. Sometimes I'm able to open the email (separate icon) and slide over to the texts, other times I can't. Using memclean to end all is a hit or miss as well. I find that I have to soft reset frequently, sometimes 3-4 times a day. At times, when I'm having a text conversation with someone, it will freeze up as well. I want to continue using this ROM because it's quite stable for everything else but this... Ideas anyone?
But, I've also noticed that these problems don't exist if I switch to the Sense 3D view.
Is this a WM6.5 issue or are there other forces at play beyond our knowledge?
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Hey guys!
It's 2011, so if you haven't already taken a step into the cloud, it's time to get started! This guide shows you how to take all your data automatically in the cloud to free your phone storage for things like apps and games, which cannot be accessed through a cloud (yet).
Before I start, I just want to make it clear that this thread should NOT be used to discuss what things are safe in the cloud and all that privacy related stuff. If you have passed your ego and realized that you are not the most important/secret person on this planet with all your documents and stuff being soo secret, then go on, the cloud is waiting for you. If you have problems concerning privacy related topics open a new thread and simply CTRL + W out of here right now.
A second note concerning availability of Internet in some areas:
Before you synchronize everything through a cloud you have to ask yourself how often you loose your internet connection with your mobile. If you find yourself often in areas without coverage or poor connection, or if you have a limited data plan you maybe only should sync your Contacts & Calendars, but not Movies since it would become unusable, or at least very frustrating. In Germany and U.S.A. (I guess) you don't have to worry anymore, I've got full speed connection no matter where I go, but you have to know this for yourself.
Personal Stuff - Contacts, Calendars and more
First of all, let's start with the obvious stuff. Things like Calendars, E-Mail, Contacts not only can be stored in the cloud, it would be foolish not to do so! In a time when people have more than one device that can access the internet and are "smart" (i.e. can display calendars & stuff, don't blame me for calling that smart, blame the ads ) it would be terrible when devices can't communicate with each other to sync changes. When your appointment get's delayed it should show up directly on your PC, shouldn't it? But enough of the reasons, let's get this started.
Setting this sync up maybe the easiest of all, because Android is all about syncing these stuff almost by default. You simply have to use the Google Apps GMail for your mail and contacts, Google Calendar for your schedule and so on. Feel free to discover all of the Google Apps and decide for yourself what you need and want.
To set the sync up on your phone simply
Goto Settings -> Accounts and sync -> [email protected] -> Sync Contacts, Calendar, Gmail, ...
And boom! there you go. All your information is now synced between your devices, no matter where you change any of it.
Photos
The next thing to sync would be your pictures. For this media type, I have chosen to write a guide about setting up a sync with Google's Picasa Webapp. Although you might choose other Photohosting sites like Flickr or SmugMug, Picasa enjoys a deep integration in the Android system. To set this sync up, you need to go through 2 steps:
1. (Automatic) Upload of your pictures
Like fruit-fanatic Jobs said: "There's an app for that". For this task (and the movies later) the app "Pixelpipe Post and Upload HD" seems to be perfect, since it also got a feature to automatically upload your pics to your Picasa web albums right after you've shot one.
Set-Up Guide:
1. Create a Pixelpipe account
2. Create a "pipe" for your Picasa account
3. Enable "auto upload" in Settings (works like a charm on the Galaxy S)
4. Shoot some pics and try
2. Sync your Picasa web albums to the phone
After we got our Photos up in the cloud, we need a way to view them on our device. Thanks to Google, we can integrate them in our SNS sync in the settings menu:
Goto Settings -> Accounts and sync -> [email protected] -> Sync Picasa Web Albums
After your next sync (i.e. immediately ) you can find all your Picasa web albums in the Gallery app indicated with a small Picasa logo. This is the major advantage of Picasa, because with your photos being integrated in the gallery, every third party app can use them to modify or distribute your images.
Movies
In syncing movies, we take a similar way like Photos, also using the Pixelpipe app. Our destination will be Youtube because it delivers us unlimited space. Disadvantages of Youtube are a 15 min limit, but if you don't have a problem with that, Youtube is fine.
To set the sync up, simply add a "pipe" in your Pixelpipe app to Youtube and enable autosync. I recommend to set the video to private or not listed, because but that is again your own choice. You have to choose wether you want to have the whole Youtube Community watching your pretty vids or not . You can choose to opt-out on autosync, and only upload when you are on Wifi, since this could really take up some bandwith. The advantage of uploading with the Pixelpipe app over the built in "Share to -> Youtube" option is that you can upload HD video. The built in share option uploads your videos in minor quality.
To view your videos simply fire up your youtube app and enter your Username. Your videos will then be displayed under the "My Videos" tab. To download them again, simply use any of the Youtube video downloader apps available on the market.
Music
For our favorite tunes, we will use mSpot to access and stream our whole library directly from our phone. First of all you have to download the sync app for your Computer from www.mspot.com and select what you want to send up into the cloud. Note that free Users gain 2 GB of storage, so maybe you need to make a selection on what you want to take with you and what not.
After your music is placed in the cloud you can download the mspot Music app for Android, enter your Username and PW and gain direct access to your music. The only lag I encountered was when starting a song, it takes about 1-2 seconds longer than a local media player like Winamp, but mspot can also access files that are directly stored on your phone.
NOTE: Galaxy devices are having a playback issue right now, where the song sometimes just goes silent and you have to tap on pause and resume to hear something again. Mspot is aware of this issue and working on it.
Data
Tired of connecting your phone through USB to copy stuff to your device? The answer to that is "Fiabee"! This works best with Google's Browser Chrome since you can directly put images and more into your Fiabee space or send them directly to the device (Link). The advantage of Fiabee is: Space. They are throwing free space away like hell, I just got 16GB because I was an early user -> Try it!
Another service of choice could be DropBox. Here you have a volume that syncs to every device that is connected the cloud, wether it is a desktop computer, netbook, mobile or tablet. An extremely reliable and fast service, which makes sharing with specific persons or groups very easy.
That's it! If you have any suggestion, comment or question, feel free to share your thought!
bye, Smirny
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Cloud by sergbel
Movies icon by dani1a
Leopard Reflective Camera Icon by LiquidsnakE4
Google Apps by space-for-thought
Own Mixtape cover: PJ - Babylon
Free Database Icons by artistsvalley
Smirny said:
If you have passed your ego and realized that you are not the most important/secret person on this planet
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Well, this leaves me out.
w98seeng said:
Well, this leaves me out.
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Don't be sad, I'll send you a golden USB cable for next christmas
for Galaxy S owners all of the above are optional
as it requires either an unlimited 3G plan, or wifi access all the time
for Nexus S owners, it's almost a must to have everything on the cloud
well I have quite unlimited 3G here @Vodafone. And my HD videos only get uploaded through Wifi, it simply would take too long through 3G sometimes.
1) good one, thanks!
2) Does pixelpipe delete the uploaded photos? Otherwise you would see them twice. Picasa and on the phone ?!
MrBusiness said:
1) good one, thanks!
2) Does pixelpipe delete the uploaded photos? Otherwise you would see them twice. Picasa and on the phone ?!
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No it does not delete the photos. Currently you have to do it manually :/
Smirny said:
well I have quite unlimited 3G here @Vodafone. And my HD videos only get uploaded through Wifi, it simply would take too long through 3G sometimes.
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Is it sad that my upload bandwidth from 3G+ is faster than my Wifi at home?
AllGamer said:
for Galaxy S owners all of the above are optional
as it requires either an unlimited 3G plan, or wifi access all the time
for Nexus S owners, it's almost a must to have everything on the cloud
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Are you saying this sure to the nexus s memory limitations or for some other reason?
Mortify1 said:
Is it sad that my upload bandwidth from 3G+ is faster than my Wifi at home?
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No, of course not ^^ At some places even I reach faster cellular upload rates than at home, but it still takes some time, so I don't want to walk around the Munich airport in circles to upload my videos =)
Thanks, any chance of a fiabee invite?
of course. Isn't registration open any longer?
https://sync.fiabee.com/i/4d210e4c11af1
thanks, just read somewhere that invites get you more space? but it doesn't seem that is the case anymore But still 1gb storage is better than nothing
well then maybe you should rely on dropbox, fiabee syncs well, but for some images you can't do stuff with them in other apps because you can't put them in the gallery :/ but in combination with the google chrome webapp it's beautiful.
btw. just realized that I forgot to link that chrome app in the original post ^^
Smirny said:
To set the sync up, simply add a "pipe" in your Pixelpipe app to Youtube and enable autosync. I recommend to set the video to private or not listed, because but that is again your own choice. You have to choose wether you want to have the whole Youtube Community watching your pretty vids or not .
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Is there an option to automatically make the uploaded videos private on YouTube or does it take a manual setting?
hetp0st said:
Is there an option to automatically make the uploaded videos private on YouTube or does it take a manual setting?
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I haven't found an option yet, I'd be curious about that too :/ Right now you have to set it to private manually, and the particular bad thing about this is that you can't do that neither in the app nor the mobile website, you have to go to the desktop website to do that :/ Or maybe I have missed a setting ...
great news:
the mSpot App now got rid of the Playback issue and it works perfectly on the SGS now =)
I've been looking all over for a comparison between Fiabee and Dropbox. Anyone?
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bump this great thread.
What really pissed me off 6 months ago was lack of synchronization of Outlook 2007 contact categories and Outlook 2007 contact pictures with my Live account and WP7 contacts via Outlook connector.
Now when Mango is here , we have:
- Mango new contact feature is called “contact groups.”
- Groups: Organize contacts by groups which can also be pinned on the start screen
Everywhere this is explained as categories in Outlook.
Question for mango users:
Can you confirm that categories from Outlook 2007 are now synced with Live and WP7 "contact groups"?
Thanks!
KraFT_mk said:
What really pissed me off 6 months ago was lack of synchronization of Outlook 2007 contact categories and Outlook 2007 contact pictures with my Live account and WP7 contacts via Outlook connector.
Now when Mango is here , we have:
- Mango new contact feature is called “contact groups.”
- Groups: Organize contacts by groups which can also be pinned on the start screen
Everywhere this is explained as categories in Outlook.
Question for mango users:
Can you confirm that categories from Outlook 2007 are now synced with Live and WP7 "contact groups"?
Thanks!
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Considering that Live does not support groups/categories from Outlook, there is no way for Outlook to sync that to Live (and therefore cannot be sync'd to you phone).
Groups is a Windows Phone 7 native feature. You create and manage the groups entirely on the phone. That's all.
At least on my Mango Beta 2, NO. (But via Windows Live, YES)
So, Outlook sync is still broken/incomplete.
Thank you for your clarification .
KraFT_mk said:
So, Outlook sync is still broken/incomplete.
Thank you for your clarification .
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Windows Phone 7 is not broken or incomplete. Outlook sync was never intended for Windows Phone 7, as it has been designed to rely on the cloud (Windows Live, Exchange, etc.). So this is as designed and intended to be this way.
Just to clarify, Windows Live and Outlook Connector cannot sync data that they don't obviously support (such as Outlook groups), so in that sense, Windows Live and the Outlook Connector is "broken" (but not really broken so much as they just don't share the same exact features), but not Windows Phone 7.
prjkthack said:
Not broken or incomplete. Outlook sync was never intended for Windows Phone 7, as it has been designed to rely on the cloud (Windows Live, Exchange, etc.). So this is as designed and intended to be this way.
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I am aware of that but not thanks to them. That`s why I asked this question.
On the contrary as long as they claim this, their sync is broken.
And still they never came up with the statement that Office contacts and Live contacts wont sync.
Microsoft Quote:
Connect contacts from your Windows Live Hotmail into Outlook
With the Outlook Hotmail Connector, you can view your Windows Live Hotmail contacts in Outlook. By organizing your contacts in Outlook, you can take advantage of the advanced contact management features that Outlook offers such as the new Business Card View, Instant Search, and the ability to sort contacts by different criteria such as location or color category.
Additionally, any changes you make to contact information in Outlook will automatically be synchronized with the Web version in your Windows Live Hotmail account.
As long as they don't clarify why outlook can be/wont be 100% compatible with windows live, I have the privilege of saying that syncing is incomplete/broken.
And I am not talking about distributions lists.
KraFT
I don't understand the issue. Why is it so difficult to create groups on your phone? I understand that it would be nice to pull existing info but didn't realize creating it on your phone was that big a deal.
That being said, the groups feature is great.
Υou can call it what ever you like ....its only you who think its broken ...
They suppose to make it work that way...for the cloud ... not the outlook. Its not broken ..its ment to be that way...
The connector its an one way transfer of your info not an sync way...
As long as you dont understand that ...nobody can help you
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That being said, the groups feature is great.
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+1 ....I agree ....Its one of the best new feature in mango
Its not just me. Its the entire business community...
I also know that WP7 is cloud oriented and I know that Groups are great feature.
My question was answered and it was supposed to clarify a product feature. Does it work as MS claims?
Claiming from your side that outlook connector is one way transfer and its not for syncing, even when its pointed out in the post above and suggesting that I need help is disturbing.
K
crainbo said:
I don't understand the issue. Why is it so difficult to create groups on your phone? I understand that it would be nice to pull existing info but didn't realize creating it on your phone was that big a deal.
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Imagine you are a real-estate agent. And you have 900 contacts sorted into 50 categories (name of the area where property is located) and you have a 900 pictures of every single property.
Most of them created on wm6.5. <-> Outlook 03/07
I can give you 1000 of similar scenarios.
But that's another subject that has nothing to do with this topic.
I just wanted a clarification if Outlook connector is working as MS claims and I got that. As long as their claims are not entirely true , or not clarified or simply not working as stated, their product is incomplete regardless what we know or we think we know.
Thank you for your answers.
KraFT_mk said:
I am aware of that but not thanks to them. That`s why I asked this question.
On the contrary as long as they claim this, their sync is broken.
.........................
Microsoft Quote:
Connect contacts from your Windows Live Hotmail into Outlook
With the Outlook Hotmail Connector, you can view your Windows Live Hotmail contacts in Outlook.
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As you can see its NOT the entire community ...its just you for the time being...
MS is stating in the site that :
Connect contacts FROM your Windows Live Hotmail INTO Outlook ...
Do you see any mention on a 2way conmmunication or sync here ??????
If the above statement (that you did post here ) its not clear to you ..i rest my case...!!!!!!
KraFT_mk said:
Its not just me. Its the entire business community...
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Since when did Microsoft ever market WP7 as a business OS? Once you realize that WP7 is marketed towards the consumer and not the business and that Windows Live is not a business email solution, you'll feel better.
I understand your frustration though, although my beef is that I'm not a fan of "the cloud", so I bit the bullet and got my own business server (Linux = free
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colossus_r said:
As you can see its NOT the entire community ...its just you for the time being...
MS is stating in the site that :
Connect contacts FROM your Windows Live Hotmail INTO Outlook ...
Do you see any mention on a 2way conmmunication or sync here ??????
If the above statement (that you did post here ) its not clear to you ..i rest my case...!!!!!!
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???
You cant find the word Synchronize on that page?
And this was already pointed to you but looks like you refuse to read.
Microsoft Quote
Additionally, any changes you make to contact information in Outlook will automatically be synchronized with the Web version in your Windows Live Hotmail account.
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Or install it try it and use it ...
And chill please ...
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crav4speed said:
Since when did Microsoft ever market WP7 as a business OS? Once you realize that WP7 is marketed towards the consumer and not the business and that Windows Live is not a business email solution, you'll feel better.
I understand your frustration though, although my beef is that I'm not a fan of "the cloud", so I bit the bullet and got my own business server (Linux = free
) and everything works beautifully!
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I agree with you.
But wait till you see the other half of the moon
The WP7 is/was so far aggressively marketer-ed as a consumer product only. Social (natively) integrated platform etc ...
But very soon the are going to start a huge campaign, business oriented, where wp7 will be next tricoder and platform for business community. They will target blackberry market share.
The thing is that the platform is still not ready (100%).
And Office means office -> business. Thats the platform that will get every business into the cloud with wp7 seamlessly. Both enterprise and small business. Check out the soon to be launched Office 365.
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