Hello,
I am organizing a team of developers to port sense to the Samsung Epic. Does anyone want to help???
Please Reply to this thread if you are interested. Once we get enough developers, we will discuss what ROM we should use as a base and start working on it.
Thanks
gokuman56 said:
Hello,
I am organizing a team of developers to port sense to the Samsung Epic. Does anyone want to help???
Please Reply to this thread if you are interested. Once we get enough developers, we will discuss what ROM we should use as a base and start working on it.
Thanks
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im not sure how u would go about doing it... but feel free to put me down for helping u out if u need help.
Shouldn't this be posted in the Epic forums? Also, not to come off as an asshole, but if you wanted Sense, you should have bought an Evo.
Thanks, a bunch, I am looking for 3-5 more people to carry out the load evenly.
We will then decide what ROM should we use as a base and start the work!!!!
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Shouldn't this be posted in the Epic forums? Also, not to come off as an asshole, but if you wanted Sense, you should have bought an Evo.
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Well, I have also posted this in the Epic forums, just am looking for developers who know how to deal with sense as well, so I posted this on the Evo forums. I used to have an Evo, but switched to the Epic due to the need of a keyboard. Enough with that, are there any more developers who would like to help?
Thanks
gokuman56 said:
Well, I have also posted this in the Epic forums, just am looking for developers who know how to deal with sense as well, so I posted this on the Evo forums. I used to have an Evo, but switched to the Epic due to the need of a keyboard. Enough with that, are there any more developers who would like to help?
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Just a thought to port the EVO shift may be good due to slide out keyboard they both have. Will be a tough port due to such different screens. I'm not too good with this but willing to try with kitchen. My wife has a epic maybe she will let me test some.
I know she wants sense on it.
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Leoisright said:
Just a thought to port the EVO shift may be good due to slide out keyboard they both have. Will be a tough port due to such different screens. I'm not too good with this but willing to try with kitchen. My wife has a epic maybe she will let me test some.
I know she wants sense on it.
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Evo Shift Rom is good, but I was thinking more Desire Z, but its not final yet, it depends on what the team decides. We will discuss everything once we get enough members. If you are willing to volunteer, please reply to the thread.
Thanks
Desire Z is a GSM phone, therefore it will have some issues like no 4G. Myn just realized Warm Z TwoPointTwo which has some issues like no 4G and no EPST. I would suggest going with the Evo Shift if you're going to port a ROM.
Ok, I will keep that in mind. Are you also helping out with the ROM or just wanted to add a suggestion?
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Everyone who wants to help can join this chatroom:
http://www.chatzy.com/405750280630
The first meeting is today, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:00
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it is a good idea..
but.. sounds like a huge mountain to climb over...
cpu, gpu, screen, and so many different hardware.. for you to redo to work.
good luck..
Am I the only one that finds it a little ironic that Epic devs are trying to get Sense while EVO devs spend their time getting rid of it?
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the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.....
women with curly hair spend thousands to straighten it..
while straight hair wome spend thousands to curle it.
and men spend thousands just to keep what they got.
Leoisright said:
Just a thought to port the EVO shift may be good due to slide out keyboard they both have. Will be a tough port due to such different screens. I'm not too good with this but willing to try with kitchen. My wife has a epic maybe she will let me test some.
I know she wants sense on it.
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The screen is the least of their concerns when porting something like this. The framework that HTC uses is completely different than Samsung. Samsung uses a different type of filesystem that might have issues with Sense, blah blah blah...
There are a million things working against porting a ROM like this. There was a Sense port for the Droid 1 at one point but it was a tremendous PITA.
So with the release of the EVO 3D will these be the last of the great roms in the EVO Dev forums???? I personally don't think there's anything more that can be done rom wise.....What do you guys think??? I know CM7 will always keep us on the latest version of Android but some of us love sense.......
No, there will be ports of the Evo 3D for the Evo; some of the developers are still supporting it.
The roms will run out when they cant fit on our evos anymore, but if the devs around here dont get too sidetracked with newer phones (i wouldnt blame them ) im sure will have new roms with new features for a while, at least I hope so
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There right now is a title wave of activity going on...we have xyz developers going to the evo 3d and others are not...let things settle down and the air will clear...will we have upgrades for roms..the safe bet is of course. Cm will improve and so will sense..and android..as they move..so will development..the major concern now is the rooting and locked bootloader for the 3d..and they will get it..via xda or htc..(I hope). However ther will be a limit to how much because of the hardware limitations of out current evo...that many of the ports cannot be done.
One nice thing is that some devs have decided to make one Rom for multiple phones. Synergy will be running on 4 different devices when all is said and done. And we won't lose cyanogen support for a while.
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Hello everyone.
Im a HTC Faithful and currently using an Evo 4g still. This phone is starting to show its age and im thinking of picking up a Epic Touch.
But looking at the dev section, it doesnt seem that there are that many roms in progress, let alone any updated ICS roms. There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on.
Im just wondering where all the ICS roms are. If i moved over, id prob want to stick to ICS.
Anyone move from Evo to Epic Touch and feel that there are enough roms? That its being supported as much as other HTC phones?
Any input?
Depends. The Stock Touchwiz Roms from samsung has plenty of development here. The AOSP side we just barely got a CM7/KANG that has quite a few bugs. For some those bugs arent a problem, but for me it didnt pass as a daily driver.
Also the whole Clockworkmod-fused-with-the-kernel/rom on this phone will give you a headache if this is your first time rooting a Samsung Phone.
It would be my first Samsung rooting. I have looked over the instructions and saw it's somewhat different from HTC style, but nothing I can't handle.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
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I see that no one has answered your main question...There are no ICS ROMs available as of right now...The deves are creating a base for it so when its possible to create one, they can implment it faster.
Uhhh. I guess the dev's are working on them.
I'd be stoked if you can work faster than they can, or pay them to work faster...
But it's not like changing a battery, there's a lot of work that goes into cooking a ROM.
They want to get CM7 complete and stable as a base to use for other Aosp roms. Samsung's official ICS for our device will have touchwiz and I think 95% of us don't want that. We need Aosp roms and kernels nailed down before we progress any further. Once the devs have a stable functional base to work from other doors will open. It takes time.
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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There may not be ICS but this is still a hell of a phone. In the market oyher than the Google phone just coming out this is the top of the line. I came from an Evo and I love it
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I think its Samsung vs HTC thing
rawdikrik said:
I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I think its more because Samsung is not releasing the source code, once they put it out our esteemed devs will bring ICS very fast. HTC is very fast about everything giving out source, update etc. I am just waiting for HTC to come with some phone which is a little bit better in specs and I am getting that. Samsung phones just looks beatifull. I want a phone that works as good and is backed up by support from the Manufacturer.
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Honestly the new Touchwiz isn't that bad. The only people making a big fat fuss over it seem to be previous HTC owners. Let me tell you, sense sucks big fat donkey balls compared to Touchwiz. I was a Go Launcher devotee prior to owning the Epic Touch. Touchwiz has proved to be ok for me.
I would still be completely happy with my day one purchase of Epic Touch even if we don't end up getting ICS until mid next year, gingerbread on this thing still flies compared to every other phone out there.
Furthermore, the OG Epic had a slow but steady dev community. Half the roms I flashed on the evo ended up being kangs or just plain crappy old skins. There were a few really good ones, salvagemod was the best vanilla AOSP. But really, the OG Epic community put out some real quality stuff, albeit at a slower pace.
Honest answer: jump in, the water is fine. Yeah, ICS will be quite nice once we get it, but in the meantime, there isn't a better phone you can get on sprint than the Epic touch.
rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Literally was writing this verbatim! LOL. I'm guessing OP posted without looking anywhere but the EVO forum and this Q and A section or the dozens of ICS threads would have reached out and smacked him in the eye.
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
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I definitely agree with you in that the Evo is old news. Which is why I'm considering the upgrade to begin with. It is showing it's age more and more.
Thank you for your input.
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Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
Does Sammy not release source code? Aren't they legally required to do this?
rawdikrik said:
Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
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I really don't see anyone trolling you here. Looks like a pretty tame thread to me. My comment was probably the "harshest"if you could call it that. My main point was that you stated that no one was working on ICS and I was pointing out that it would be extremely difficult to miss the fact that several devs are in fact working on ICS, MIUI, CM7+9, AOSP and more TW custom ROM's.
I don't think any of us disagree that we wish there we more things going on, but I also think people forget that the EVO dev process was not overnight. Go back to the first EVO posts and you can see that it was several weeks from release before the customization started and a couple months before things really got going. And when the EVO came out, there was zero worthy competition. Pretty much everyone jumped on the EVO train.
I don't think that anyone here is upset by your post, but I do think it discounts the efforts that have been going on for well over a month to get ICS and the other goods to this device.
"There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on." I think that statement was the one that bothered me because it clearly showed that you were making assumptions without doing any research. And we have enough people in this forum doing plenty of that already. In fact, I have never seen more dev cooperation on any other device. Take a look at the ICS thread from the beginning and you'll see some amazing teamwork. Unfortunately derailed by demanding and entitled community members and leeches, but still alive and kicking in IRC and private spaces.
But I digress, the main point, you probably wouldn't be disappointed by picking up this phone. IMO, it is the best out right now and a quick look around will show you that the number of ROMs is about to hit a stride. The dates of release can show you that new work has just arrived and its beginning to look a lot like EVO-town in here.
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Coming from the Evo 4G and writing guides and helping people on those forums for a while, I bought an E4GT.
Compared to the Evo just development wise on XDA, there aren't as many ROMs or as much development going on.
But phone wise, its a great phone and a great upgrade from the Evo 4G. Personally I use Launcher Pro/ADW so slapping that over TouchWiz is great.
Rooting is simple. There are auto roots going on and not as much of a pain as the Evo 4G. Also flashing things like Radios, ROMs, etc are faster as well because of the difference in phone speed and boot speed.
As for ICS, there was something in the works, but I think there hasn't been any much development on it.
I came from the Motorola Triumph to the HTC EVO because of the lack of good working roms it has. That's one of the main reasons I bought this phone (HTC EVO 4G) because of all the developments going on for a 2 year old phone. Like for instance the HTC EVO 4g LTE came out are a lot of you users and devs going to that phone? So my question would be is the HTC EVO 4g one of those phones even though its 2 years old is development still going on? How come development is still going on? I'm not saying that i want the devs to stop developing for it and move on the the HTC EVO 4g LTE. I know the EVO 4g came out in like 2010 and yet is 2012 and development is still going on for it. How come is that not saying that I want the devs to stop and move on to the HTC EVO 4g LTE. Also I know how to port roms so will the roms on HTC Desire HD and HTC EVO 3D work on this phone are there any special mods needed to be done? Oh and one more question do all of HTC EVO 4g ICS have camera(s) working or is it just the back?
I don't know if you've a question or statement in that jumble, but yes, development is still going on. Many of the current devs are working on ICS, there is a sense 4 alpha floating in the development section. in addition, there are also new gingerbread builds being re-worked.
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I don't know if you've a question or statement in that jumble, but yes, development is still going on. Many of the current devs are working on ICS, there is a sense 4 alpha floating in the development section. in addition, there are also new gingerbread builds being re-worked.
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Well I guess its kind of both a question within the statment I'll clarify it.
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Well I guess its kind of both a question within the statment I'll clarify it.
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Well that helps. You can attempt to port the desire to the evo, but you'll need some additional things to make it work, I believe. Also, all the ICS roms have the rear camera working; no ICS Evo rom has the front facing camera [ffc] working.
Okay I cleared it up a bit. Should be easier to understand now.