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Why not separate forum for each ROM

Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.

papadi said:
Hi all!
I have a suggestion to make to the administrators of this portal.
I believe that each ROM should have it's own forum and not just a single thread. Each ROM is a really big deal. It is a piece of software that requires support, and using just one thread - the one that the creator of the ROM started to show off his work - is not enough. There should be one forum for each ROM, with locked threads on top showing latest releases, patches and known issues etc. Just like a real software product. Currently is it not easy at all for the visitor to find an answer for something already been answered before. Search inside a thread is helpful but not enough. Also, I suppose that it's not easy for the creator of ROM to keep up and know what was answered and what was not.
This forum should be administered by the ROM creator or any other friend that he/she could choose to help him out in this difficult task.
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Mate... i think that cant be applied because there may be 10's of roms then we will need 10's of forums. Its ok with topics i think... they just need good cleaning from useless posts.

And what is the problem with having 10s of forums? If the forum framework is flexible this shouldn't be much burden for the administrators.

yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p

Garmin said:
yup, i am agree with you papaidi, but, we dont have to make a new separated forum, for a new rom, i think we just need a separated forum for the newest rom, then for the rom before, we need to move it to "upgrading" forum,. ;p
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I would also recommend Tags. Aren't they supported?

Take this thread for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751
How can somebody find in it if there is the answer that he is looking form. This thread has more than 2500 replies! This is not a thread! It's a history book.

i hear what you're sayin but...
that's not even a ROM thread! And he (Ikarus) has taken the trouble to write up FAQs, manuals, etc, so except for troubleshooting IMO you hardly need to look through the whole thread,
This is not a thread! It's a history book.
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but that's a nice line...made me smile at least...
regarding a forum for each ROM, it would be a nice idea, but is there really space, or a real need for this? I mean, I hate looking back at a latest ROM thread and seeing 20 pages to trawl through, but what can you do... I guess I agree with WizeMan. If there is anything that can be done, perhaps harsher moderation (e.g. of newbie's questions) in the ROM threads would help.
...or...if people really did want new forums for ROMs, one for each major cooker? rather than each individual ROM...still don't think that it's worth it/do-able though

I believe seperating ROMS and forum will add more chaos. For example, there is like 100's of ROMS released for each device like hermes, wizard etc. Some of the ROM released might not be good, and hence it might be discontinued. Also with the way people are porting ROM a new OS version is released almost daily, and the chefs, start their job again with the new OS version....so having to seperate ROM forum will add more confusion...(this is my opinion)
Also, use google to search for what you need, I agree you cannot go through the 2500 replies, but some of them do have valuable information.

That's a good idea...

Sorry, but that is probably the craziest thing I have heard. Do you even know how many ROMS are out there? This forum is huge as it is. If they started making new forums for every ROM, then you would have nothing less than 200 forums minimum.
The key is to include a "Thank You" feature for every thread. The biggest problem we have here is noobs and even a lot os senior members posting THANK YOU and I'LL TEST IT OUT messages in the threads. If you actually look at the amount of useful messages in the threads, they are quite minimal as opposed to all this unnecessary chatter.
There are a lot of forums that include this "THANK YOU" feature that I mentioned. If you want to thank the author of the thread, all you do is click on a THANK YOU button and your name gets added to a THANK YOU section in the same thread. That way everything is kept clean and messages are posted only when you have something to contribute, discuss or have a problem.
Check out the thread below... you'll have a much better idea of what i'm talking about. Also, maybe we should make this more visible. If all of us start putting this in our Signatures, then members will take notice and if there is enough of noise, then the admins will take notice and we can move towards a cleaner and more functional XDA-dev.
Thank You Threads

In my oppinion this is a difficult idea to be applied. The most simple way we can wish the moderator give a list of rom and then stick them, so anybody know where is the newer rom, stable rom, or in progress. But actually there is a rule from the rom maker, they use some order of versions which they build, so anybody know when the rom is composed Thank them for the great works.

HTC Desire 'Oxygen' (Adam G) Rom General Discussion.

This is the place for all discussions by non developers relating to the various builds and tweaks of Oxygen ROM for the HTC desire. XDA rules state that you must be developing a Rom or tweak to post in development forums- we do hope for them to visit and help out though .
Feel free to post experiences, thankyou's, bugs, feature requests, and questions etc... I am by no means an expert, so please just post to the general community, hopefully someone will come up with a meaningful reply. No response from Adam G or any developers is implied. Please use the bug/ feature request tracker to be officially heard.
Please search before making questions so members are not repeating questions and answers. And please be nice... even if someone does post a repeat question, or doesn't 'get' something, etc.....
Cheers,
Gavin

Reserved...

Reserved....
Just for fun.

ephumuris said:
Reserved....
Just for fun.
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Yeah, WHS. I've always wanted to post 'Reserved'
Suppose if I stopped Dicking about I would have a better chance TBH
KYI

Reserved
(never had to do this before!!!)
On a serious note, if you're posting in the ROM thread and your post relates to the ROM and its issues then there's no issues posting in the ROM thread

There were complaints in this specific ROM thread about people posting non dev. questions, so Senior Mod, pulser_g2, suggested that a thread in General wouldn't do any harm for people to discuss the rom etc. I've had to clean them up.
Personally I think this is a good idea, and if it was adopted by more developers we could keep the actual rom thread clean and tidy. The cam port thread is a good example of a clean dev thread, although the fact I'm cleaning it every day is a bit of a problem!
Ideally we would like to keep the rom threads for posting the rom, discussing technical aspects of the rom, and posting bug reports etc.
@ the OP. It might be a good idea for you to post in the actual rom development thread and point everyone here so they can start posting on this thread.
@ everyone who has decided to "reserve" posts. Stop it! The OP reserving a space is fine, but c'mon now people stop taking the you know what!

It was just in jest, fair enough about the actual thread being clogged up. I still stand that if it refers to an issue with the ROM of its features it should go in the ROM thread but banter should go in here!!

To be honest I think it was the sheer amount of questions that aren't actually rom related, and the number of times the same question is asked over and over and over and over.... I'm sure you get the picture!
The Leedroid rom thread is another example of why a thread here in General might be a good idea. I spent an hour one night and deleted over 150 posts in the last 20 pages.
Anyway we shall see how this goes and take it from there. I'm guessing it will be trying to fight a losing battle. Hey ho

The other option is to create a ROM Discussion sub-forum for each ROM to have a thread...

EddyOS said:
The other option is to create a ROM Discussion sub-forum for each ROM to have a thread...
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I Vote this. Keep a 'General Discussion' thread for each ROM in their own Forum to keep things clean.
Despite the fact I hate them, a chat room dedicated to each ROM (Bandwidth Permitting) might be an idea. Usually once someone has voiced their opinion/Question they soon Dissipate. Could same some useless posts clogging up a Thread
KYI

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superfastmonkey said:
I was hit with a quote from the forum rules that stated I shouldn't be posting anyway as they state you must be developing something to post in the Rom development forums
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Depend's on how you interpret them rules
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something.
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as the rom in question was in beta, and you were testing it so to speak you had every right to be contributing to the thread.
Also, brilliant idea to have a separate thread containing the less irrelevant things, would possibly be even more brilliant if Adamg added a link and little explanation in his oxygen OP of what this is and why it's here.

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Alright, I am going to kick this thread off with its first potential issue. I have noticed it about 4 timesthat, over the last 5 days, suddenly my WiFi has switched off and I realised I an surfing on my 3g data connection. I just have to re-enable WiFi and it is back again, but this can cost me a lot of data depending on what I am doing. I have juice defender on, but not touching WiFi, and I use Y5 battery saver to switch WiFi on and off when in and out of range. I have not had this issue for months with any other Rom. I have reinstalled y5 and it still happens. Has anyone else got this issue or any ideas. I am on oxygen beta 0. 1. 3.
Cheers.

superfastmonkey said:
Alright, I am going to kick this thread off with its first potential issue. I have noticed it about 4 timesthat, over the last 5 days, suddenly my WiFi has switched off and I realised I an surfing on my 3g data connection. I just have to re-enable WiFi and it is back again, but this can cost me a lot of data depending on what I am doing. I have juice defender on, but not touching WiFi, and I use Y5 battery saver to switch WiFi on and off when in and out of range. I have not had this issue for months with any other Rom. I have reinstalled y5 and it still happens. Has anyone else got this issue or any ideas. I am on oxygen beta 0. 1. 3.
Cheers.
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I have not experienced this problem on any version of this ROM (had on other ROMS) and no such problems on beta beta v0.2.

i am trying some more searches but can't find anything that seems relevant.... i have had it ages ago, flashed another rom and forgot about it. the channel is still on 13- sometimes that resets to 11- (i have had that a few times with different roms), so it's not that btw.

superfastmonkey said:
i am trying some more searches but can't find anything that seems relevant.... i have had it ages ago, flashed another rom and forgot about it. the channel is still on 13- sometimes that resets to 11- (i have had that a few times with different roms), so it's not that btw.
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Maybe try uninstalling the Y5 app and then see if you have the same issues, also I am sure I read something (and I may be mistaken) that it's not a good idea having your wifi router on channel 13.........

I had it more without y5, it switches to 3g regularly then, always has- nor all the time, just quite often without on a few different roms. Maybe it us because I have two networks in my house... its complicated, I need it.
I am in Australia we have 13 channels on our wifi here, I need it on auto.
The nofullsleep fix gave me wifi error so I got rid if it.

I woke up this morning and it was on 3g, it had reset my regulatory domain back to 11. I have reinstalled y5. I tried to post on the bug tracker, but chrome and opera on my phone both timed out when trying to submit. Will try from my home pc when I get the chance.

Everything else is silky smooth, most stable rom ever by far.

Motorola Defy Wiki page

Hello *,
I just added a wiki page to the XDA Dev wiki together with some links from the development forum.
Please feel free to edit the page and add the information you deem important.
Cheers,
CS

Nice work!
I've stickied this thread in the General forum for everyone to see.
P.S. I fixed the Android logo and added a redirect on the main index photo

the_scotsman said:
Nice work!
I've stickied this thread in the General forum for everyone to see.
P.S. I fixed the Android logo and added a redirect on the main index photo
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Why don't you sticky Sorensiims "How I mod my defy" topic?

Thank you!
Would you mind making it also sticky in the dev sub-forum? As most of the links point to dev-resources and since many questions arise concerning these topics it might help people to get started.

Looks great! Nice to have all the information gathered in one place.. will be helpful when I finally dive into the world of rooting/flashing after my exams

added new section: Recover Nearly Bricked Phone (hopefully)
if anyone wants to contribute, feel free.
will take some time until i posted everything i know
(quite busy right now...)
thanks guys!

This along with other guides saved my ass so thank you for this majorily appreciated
= ]
-Jabar

very nice

There should be a directory for all of these wiki pages. With all this info in one place, more unregistered users will end up registering just to be able to access this stuff.

clutch.exe said:
There should be a directory for all of these wiki pages. With all this info in one place, more unregistered users will end up registering just to be able to access this stuff.
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would agree
but i really don't like the idea of registering to contributing ... but it's necessary due to the times of bots and other ^^stuff

Great Work,
perhaps add the Sense Rom? It works fantastic!!!...

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Jojo1992 said:
Great Work,
perhaps add the Sense Rom? It works fantastic!!!...
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it's a wiki, give it 5 minutes, have a look, and contribute on your own
would be great thanks!

T-Mobile 3.4.2
The "Android 2.2 (Froyo) Stock ROMs" section on the Wiki needs to be updated to reflect the 3.4.2 T-Mobile ROM

IP67 it fake in Thailand don't work.
can't proof water (Some Device)
can't Proof dust (some device)
Can't Proof scratch on Screen Gorrila Glass. cause Key Scratch in my pocket.

Just updated the custom ROMs section.

Add cm7 Tom too
Sent from my MB525 cm7quarx

Dumb question: Asking here since the development forum isnt open to me yet.
I have CM7 beta5.1 but there's been alot of force close of android.media process. I want to reflash 5.1 but the custom recovery does not recognize the SD card. Is there a suggestion on that account which may be of use?
Else it may be included

Maybe an update for the Nordic ROM 2.2.2 as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13008282&postcount=1

Great. Thx very much!...i searched a lot for Eclair but now it`s so easy

It's very good!Thank you!

[Q] Do you know what's dumb?

A: Having a posting requirement for new users. I understand it cuts down on the "how do i root my phone" posts, but it seems just as bad to require 10 posts in a non-dev section before allowing new users to post in the dev section.
My real issue is that yelp does on work on the virtuous g2 rom. I noticed other people were having the same issue, and I would like to reply to them and let others know that this is a problem. But I have to get 10 posts first. Awesome.

10 posts is not alot...
Get yourself started with this thread. Lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]

I am having the same problem with Yelp. Whenever I open Yelp using Virtuous 0.9 it force closes upon opening the application.

Darwinism09 said:
I am having the same problem with Yelp. Whenever I open Yelp using Virtuous 0.9 it force closes upon opening the application.
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If your looking for an answer to your problem with yelp FC's on the Virtuous 0.9.0, I seriously doubt that it will get much attention or a solution posting under a thread titled "[Q] Do you know what's dumb?" You might try posting in the Virtuous thread.

its pretty dumb that you wasted a thread on this, actually. haha. they want members to actively participate. 10 posts is not alot at all.

there are TONS of ways to participate on XDA to get 10 posts. share your screenshot or some wallpapers - there's 2. Go check out the Q&A section - surely there's something you can contribute to in there.
I realize it's frustrating, but the point isn't to annoy and frustrate new users - it's to prevent new users from annoying and frustrating people who are contributing to the community in general. It's also to encourage new people to participate and contribute in ways other than bug reporting/issue reporting. Not that bug/issue reporting isn't important, but if you come on here, report your bug, and then leave, the community gains nothing. If you join in some of the more community-building threads, the community gains a valuable member.

playball78 said:
A: Having a posting requirement for new users. I understand it cuts down on the "how do i root my phone" posts, but it seems just as bad to require 10 posts in a non-dev section before allowing new users to post in the dev section.
My real issue is that yelp does on work on the virtuous g2 rom. I noticed other people were having the same issue, and I would like to reply to them and let others know that this is a problem. But I have to get 10 posts first. Awesome.
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You know what's dumb?
A: Thinking it's cool to post "how do I root my phone" in the dev section. Nuff said.
Anyway, yelp not working isn't something that belongs in the dev section and I'm sure they know they're not alone in that issue, they don't need you to clutter a thread with 'hey, me too!!'. I'm sure there will be a solution to the issue and in the meantime I'd just use the website.

Sense ui Transitions

Hey Im running Super Z enhanced and I was wandering if it possible to change the swiping from home screen to home screen transition to like a cube style or carousel type style like the EVO 3D sense ui. Would someone be able to do it or find me a link that has a zip file that makes it transition like a carousel.

One: This should be in Q&A/General
two: Not gonna happen until we get a system dump of the Evo 3d.

Every time someone posts such off-topic threads in the dev forum, God kills a kitten.
Think of the kittens and, for their sake, post in the correct forum.

Sorry this is only my 2nd thread so im not used to this yet and where to post things.

najaboy said:
Every time someone posts such off-topic threads in the dev forum, God kills a kitten.
Think of the kittens and, for their sake, post in the correct forum.
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I thought a baby got kicked?
CM7 nightly

Launcher pro has the cube like which is pretty much the same as the evo 3d one but I dont know how to take that transition out of Launcher pro and put it on sense ui.

Ndaoud360 said:
Sorry this is only my 2nd thread so im not used to this yet and where to post things.
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This is a stickied thread at the top of every development subforum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713251
Not to be "that guy", but it would do you well to read that thread and the forum rules. They tell you everything you need to know.