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Programs working/not working on Black IV Shadow

Don't want to clog up the original thread. I am thinking of upgrading to Black Shadow but I have a hard time finding information on which applications there might be issues with. In the sbsh forum for example, one user says that on Black v3 installing Ilauncher caused a hard reset.
Does Ilauncher work with v4?
Also I just can't go without phoneAlarm, IM+, Fizz weather, SPB Time, Resco Explorer, Resco Photoviewer, Pocket Informant and PIEPlus.
Just list all programs that work and the ones you are having problems with.

So far so good...
Greetings,
I've been running these for about a week with no problems on the Black Shadow ROM.
Spb Time v2.1.4, Build 947
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Resco Explorer 2007 v6.00
I'm curious to know if iLauncher works...I have it...just haven't loaded it.
Cheers,

I,ve been running Ilauncher couple of days without any problems. I also have SPB Mobile Shell, Time and Weather installed and those are working fine.
...And Ilauncher is version 3.0.04

Just a Question but why is this posted on Xda and not 4winmobile?

austinsnyc said:
Just a Question but why is this posted on Xda and not 4winmobile?
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Mostly because I heard of Black shadow today and know nothing about it. Second, there are a whole bunch of posts about black shadow on this forum so I did not think any of it...

resco explorer 2007 works fine.
phone alarm 1.60 works well no issues.

Dmon said:
Don't want to clog up the original thread.
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Instead you clog up the Hermes sub-furom? nice work...Another useless post to scroll past in my searching

peezy said:
Instead you clog up the Hermes sub-furom? nice work...Another useless post to scroll past in my searching
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Yeah, well you didn't scroll by. You opened the thread, read it and posted a message far less valuable than my thread. If this post is of no interest to you then don't read it. 99% of all threads are of no interest to me. I use this forum for the remaining 1% of (to me) interesting threads.
And if I can't post in the original thread, and not post a new one, I don't have many options left... People like you are clogging up the forum.
I'd like to write something rude as well as you did, but instead I figured I would write something constructive.

Mortplayer
anyone using mortplayer on Shadow? It works fine but i'm unable to quit the program properly, instead I have to force close it with task manager every time which leads to previous setting not saved correctly.

Windows Live was playing up but JJ has released a patch at 4wm.

austinsnyc said:
Just a Question but why is this posted on Xda and not 4winmobile?
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Can we stop this petty crap please? Lots of people on these fora are still using the Black ROMs, JJ still posts on here about them...what exactly is the big f***ing deal?
Telling people to go elsewhere to talk about a different ROM is just going to lead to fragmentation of the community and is just trying to create tension between two internet sites out of nothing.
Just grow up a little bit and stop trying to stir it.

Lordsmiff said:
Can we stop this petty crap please? Lots of people on these fora are still using the Black ROMs, JJ still posts on here about them...what exactly is the big f***ing deal?
Telling people to go elsewhere to talk about a different ROM is just going to lead to fragmentation of the community and is just trying to create tension between two internet sites out of nothing.
Just grow up a little bit and stop trying to stir it.
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The cook himself has requested that all discussion take place on 4wm. So, the big f***ing deal is that *****ing about it here, when the cook has said he'll only support it on 4wm is useless. Also, if he doesn't see the *****es (because they're posted here), how can he fix the issues?
This community is being fragmented by more than JJ... The excellent moderation around here certainly doesn't help either.

austinsnyc said:
Just a Question but why is this posted on Xda and not 4winmobile?
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Easy, because 4winmobile sux. Everything is buried and impossible to find. Hermes and Black are nothing more than an after thought on that site.

Dmon said:
Yeah, well you didn't scroll by. You opened the thread, read it and posted a message far less valuable than my thread. If this post is of no interest to you then don't read it. 99% of all threads are of no interest to me. I use this forum for the remaining 1% of (to me) interesting threads.
And if I can't post in the original thread, and not post a new one, I don't have many options left... People like you are clogging up the forum.
I'd like to write something rude as well as you did, but instead I figured I would write something constructive.
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Bravo DMON!!! Couldn't have said it better. Why don't all you freakin senior members get off your high horse?! If you don't want to read or respond... THEN DON'T. You guys constantly *****ing is what is ruining this forum and causing people to leave... not noobs asking questions.
My apologies to the senior members that don't partake in this BS.

LegolasTheElf said:
The cook himself has requested that all discussion take place on 4wm. So, the big f***ing deal is that *****ing about it here, when the cook has said he'll only support it on 4wm is useless. Also, if he doesn't see the *****es (because they're posted here), how can he fix the issues?
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Come on Elf - that's like saying if you have a problem with wisbar, you should only post on the lakeridge forums or if you have a problem with SPB Pocket Plus, you should only post on their forums.
The fact of the matter is that nearly everyone who is interested in the Black ROMs on 4WM is reading and posting here, including JJ himself.
But not everyone who is running black can be mithered reading another set of forums and stays here. I think here is where you're likely to get the biggest readership. You'll miss some of the guys on 4WM but most of the big hitters (just like yourself ) are here.
Let them post in peace

LegolasTheElf said:
So, the big f***ing deal is that *****ing about it here, when the cook has said he'll only support it on 4wm is useless.
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You never heard of peer support? It's what makes communities work.

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[Request] Theme/Skin forum for more easy search/browse

Dear Admin/Mods
The most view Development and Hacking section is awesome for all the Phone.
we found many usefull and super apps here (VJ Uties,PocketCM, S2U, plugins, patch, hack...)
and day goes by we also found many pretty and sexy theme/skin in this section too.
It's now hard to know and find if some app or skin is update or born.
so i request may we have a section for the skin/theme to let the Development and Hacking grow like it should be (monster now ) and make our world biggest powerfull forum more romantic
Thank You.
PS: dont worry about screen resolution, just add [QVGA/VGA] to the skin Thread title

vua777 said:
Dear Admin/Mods
The most view Development and Hacking section is awesome for all the Phone.
we found many usefull and super apps here (VJ Uties,PocketCM, S2U, plugins, patch, hack...)
and day goes by we also found many pretty and sexy theme/skin in this section too.
It's now hard to know and find if some app or skin is update or born.
so i request may we have a section for the skin/theme to let the Development and Hacking grow like it should be (monster now ) and make our world biggest powerfull forum more romantic
Thank You.
PS: dont worry about screen resolution, just add [QVGA/VGA] to the skin Thread title
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That sounds a good idea, but: some themes are also developy/hacky things, and are a combination of the two...

l3v5y said:
That sounds a good idea, but: some themes are also developy/hacky things, and are a combination of the two...
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i see, i know this is my "hack" skin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312235 and it have more than 100.000 view

So I'm not the only on with this idea!!!
I think it'd be really useful to keep the regular dev and hacking forum clean while making it easy to find themes when I need them.
If you have a Pocket CM theme post it there. A new app or update app post it in the dev forum.
Some theme's really do involve a lot of work. I think they could just be posted in the theme forum, but it could go either way...
Also I think it'd be really useful if we had a sort of format for naming threads:
"Updated 6/16/2008: PocketCM Windows 7 Blue and Green Themes VGA/QVGA" or something like that.
1 thread per theme. Themes that only vary in color would be posted in the same thread.

this is funny.. i was just talkin about this with my boy..
i make themes all the time.. i personally dont use em.. but i make em for my freinds with ppcs. If u have a request post the pic and ill get it done shortly

+1 for theme forum, only because i don't use themes!!! And it's a pain in tje butt to keep trawling through 75 different manilla diamond clone themes everyday, takes new/old apps off the front page, even relegating the useful ones to page 10s
plz.

Forum reorganization thoughts

not trying to be mean or anything and probly will get bashed, but I had a thought about how to organize the forums so the questons asked would get an answer faster and with more accurate information.
what if we were to have a question and answer part in each of the roms instead of asking in the genereal q and a
you know sort of like each dev would be able to see all the problems that their rom is currently having.
and it would also help the people running those roms see all the current questions.
we should also have a section for the people who are on stock roms unrooted
I personally think it would help in diagnosing issues if they arrise.

I agree on a rom q and a but inside the development thread. Have rom thread ie bonsai and then a bonsai q and a thread with the most repeated q and a's on the op. This is more work for the devs and entirely up to them. It will help out in organization instead of cluttering a development thread with the same question. have the main thread for dl link, changelog, install instructions, possibly bug reports (some have a dedicated page for this) and that's it.
Edit: and most importantly feedback.
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To do that, it would need to be reorganized such that roms would each get their own subforum. Then, they could have a "get the new version here" thread, a "general info" thread, and then all the random individual threads. If you have seen how mod forums are organized at civfanatics, you know what I'm talking about.
Lately, I've been thinking we need a "Guides and FAQs" section. Make everyone post guides being worked on in a "works in progress" subforum and then a mod can move completed guides to the main forum. We might be able to get a nice little knowledge base here if a few people wanted to chip in and write out a lot of what we have learned.

DiGi760 said:
and then a mod can move completed guides to the main forum.
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srsly? we cant even get the one overworked mod to move much around as it is.

Which is why I haven't previously suggested the idea.
But, seriously, we need a couple more good mods who want to help build a community here. I know how tough it is. I've been around a lot of forums, both good and bad. It can be hard to find people who are both willing to do the job and mature enough to do it well.

[IMPROVEMENT LIST] RCMix 3D Kingdom rom.

Hi guys,
Since users who haven't posted 10 messages yet can't reply in a development thread and I couldn't find a decent topic in which my statements would've been answered, I would like to propose this topic to be used where people could sum up their wishes for the RCMix3D rom.
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#1 - Scaling glitch
In version 0.1, there was a scaling glitch. If you pinched the desktop screen, the seven homescreens would zoom out, but when you zoomed back in the homescreen had a glitch: the screen would stretch from the top-left corner. This issue got fixed in version 0.2. In version 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2, this glitch has made its return, I would love to see it fixed, permanently this time please.
#2 - Lock screen font
When you unlock your phone, the font on the Weather unlock screen is stretched. It's blurry, and it doesn't have any margin on its left side... So if the devs could resize/move this, it would be appreciated.
#3 - Widgets
First of all, the calendar widget still hasn't been fixed since version 0.1. Yes, I have read the thread of the ROM over at the Development page multiple times and forgive me if I haven't seen your fix, but it's a mess. If I look at the overall result, it doesn't seem like a widget issue, but more of a resolution issue, I know the device from which this ROM was ported had a much larger resolution and probably causes this, but it would be nice if this could be fixed too?
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To finish this first post, I would like to bring out a big thank you to the developers who made it possible to get this ROM up and running on the Desire HD, keep up the good work guys!

Congrats on your first post
Quite a good list of observations there. I would suggest you try the below and see ..... so far its seems quite good for a first release
Virtuous Unity 1.0.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312

tobmav said:
Hi guys,
Since users who haven't posted 10 messages yet can't reply in a development thread and I couldn't find a decent topic in which my statements would've been answered, I would like to propose this topic to be used where people could sum up their wishes for the RCMix3D rom.
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You couldn't find a decent topic, did you even try to search? It's even mentioned in the OP of RCMix3D thread. Don't spam this forum...
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Please search read check buglist and discussion thread, development related questions here, all other in discussion thread
Problems:
If you have problems and questions, that is not realy related into coding and frixng the rom go HERE and post, this is a thread for it all about RCMIX made by Hawks556
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Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071455
It's an active thread too so can't understand how you missed it

As stated by Hawks556, there already is a thread.
This one is closed.

[Q] Separate Themes and Apps forum?

Am I the only one who finds it a bit annoying to scroll through page after page looking for apps when 70% of the threads are about themes?
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the work that you guys do here at xda! Although it would be easier to find the good stuff if themes and apps were separated imo
Sorry if the thread is misplaced.

Exactly! I'd like to have all app infos in one place.
I don't understand why people using themes but that's another case.

I'd like to see a forum for all themes and apps requiring root and another for all un-rooted stuff.

What's the point. No one reads or obeys any of the rules anyway. People just post what they want, where they want.
An example is this thread. It should have been posted in the Q&A section

nobnut said:
What's the point. No one reads or obeys any of the rules anyway. People just post what they want, where they want.
An example is this thread. It should have been posted in the Q&A section
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+1
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nobnut said:
What's the point. No one reads or obeys any of the rules anyway. People just post what they want, where they want.
An example is this thread. It should have been posted in the Q&A section
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RESPECT
10char

Multiple sections with no one to police them .
Apps are likely to be posted in Q&A Themes in dev anything in anywhere .
If users are to lazy to search then why should they be spoonfed .
jje

but naturally u would ask a question about themes and apps thread in the thread? cause i personally wouldnt of thought to look in q/a for something like this. atleast this way people who may of thought it will see it while looking round on the thread? i think apps and themes having their own separate thread would be good. why do i want to see apps when im looking for themes? or why do i wona see themes when im looking for apps? i think its a great idea. thumbs up

mikeinessex said:
but naturally u would ask a question about themes and apps thread in the thread? cause i personally wouldnt of thought to look in q/a for something like this. atleast this way people who may of thought it will see it while looking round on the thread? i think apps and themes having their own separate thread would be good. why do i want to see apps when im looking for themes? or why do i wona see themes when im looking for apps? i think its a great idea. thumbs up
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Totally agree with your points. I think it would be easier to find topics that way!
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What posters should do is put either APP or THEME heading at the beginning of each post .
jje

nobnut said:
What's the point. No one reads or obeys any of the rules anyway. People just post what they want, where they want.
An example is this thread. It should have been posted in the Q&A section
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When I created the thread I saw that someone had created a similar thread in a different forum. It was placed under "Themes and Apps" and it hadn't been moved so I thought that it was a good place.
And in the bottom of my post I apoligize for eventual misplacement
On the first page where you see all the forums, themes and apps are separated for Android. Why wouldn't all the subforums have the same design?
And yes people should have [THEME] and [APP] in the topic, and many of the posters actually do this. But how is that helpful in this matter? The problem for me isn't that I click on threads and find the wrong stuff, it's that I have to scroll through lots of stuff that I'm not interested in at the time.
Regarding search, do you mean that I should search for everything? How would I find new stuff? I can't guess what people name their apps

I'd like these subforums separated too. I look for both, but never at the same time. The apps seem to get buried under all the themes.

I don't think the thread is in the wrong section, it doesn't really have to do with the phone itself, but the forum, and this section of the forum.
Now ontopic, I also find it a bit fragmented to see the themes when I want the apps, but then the same thing happens with other subforums too. Personally I would like a separate subforum for apps and one for themes, but it might increase the unwanted clutter.