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I actually kind of agree with the two posters, it really is an unrealistic idea, but it will eventually come true... I guess it's a bit early to speculate with only one vague article but a whole army of critics
XNA is good for MUCH more than "crappy Xbox live demos". XNA is used for lots of games on the XBL Arcade already. What makes you think that Sony is going to be able to do better on Android than Microsoft is on WP7? Xbox has easily the best dev tools around and that is brought over onto WP7. The only chance that Android's game dev capabilities could even come close to WP7 is if Sony creates a set of libraries, standards, and dev tools specifically for games. I highly doubt that will happen. Also, will Google even let them? It's been said that Google will be tightening the specs for Android 3 so it remains to be seen just how much. Every game will work on every WP7 phone. That will be a large base of potential customers. Any PSP-phone game would only work with that single device. Why would developers spend time and money targeting such a limited install base? Sony would be just another OEM for Android whereas Microsoft runs the show with WP7. And finally, there's been no announcements or even real leaks about a PSP phone. Who knows if it will ever happen? Also, this would be a reason to choose a PSP phone over WP7 phone but wouldn't apply to the rest of Android.
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while the guy next to you is playing Modern Warfare 2 on his SE Playstation phone in full 1080P HD and a true 3D experience[/url]
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Its very sad if you think that will happen, a phone cant handle that most ps3 & 360 games dont even run in 1080p natively & if a phone could the batter would last like 45 min & your phone would be very very hot not to mention the phone would need a super chip to be able to do that & that would raise the cost of the phone up greatly...anyway dont know why you bring up silverlight, all the major 3D & graphically intense games will be written in xna
not sure why i even responded to this, but good luck with your PlayStation phone that you think will have better graphics or games then a psp
Psp is a playstation portable, exactly. There is a playstation emulator for Android already out. So they will have the exact same games.
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Psp is a playstation portable, exactly. There is a playstation emulator for Android already out. So they will have the exact same games.
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Emulation is generally more buggy than games coded for that platform.
Sony is going to make the same mistake here that they did on the console market. A big factor of why 360 pulled ahead of PS3 was that it was easier for developers to code for the xbox360 than it was to code for the PS3. Also developers could make a game in XNA and quickly port it to windows.
Making a game for wp7 now allows you to port that to 360 and PC quite easily. What does making a game for Android & iphone get you? It just gets you on one platform really. This is something Sony can't do and why wp7 really is a true gaming platform. While android and the iphone are very capable of running games they just don't have the tools that MS does.
As long as wp7 sells decently, I can't see bigger studios not getting behind wp7 in a big way. They should be able to crank out quality games wayyyy faster than the competition, since there are tons of professional game developers very accustomed to XNA.
First off 360 pulled ahead because of the gaming titles, i.e. Halo and the network xbox live.
Second, who on earth wants to play the same game on three different platforms? There is no market for this. Fun and exciting on a phone won't yield the same results on a PC or gaming system.
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I actually kind of agree with the two posters, it really is an unrealistic idea, but it will eventually come true... I guess it's a bit early to speculate with only one vague article but a whole army of critics
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No Biggie....there are plenty of reasons to pick android over wp7, but i dont think gaming will ever be 1 of those reasons
No Biggie....there are plenty of reasons to pick android over wp7, but i dont think gaming will ever be 1 of those reasons
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That's true.
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First off 360 pulled ahead because of the gaming titles, i.e. Halo and the network xbox live.
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Xbox live and Halo 1&2 were both on the regular xbox. However, it didn't really phase ps2 though, not to mention that PS had many exclusive titles as well. So what changed that the ps3, the industry leader, faulted to the upstart? The ease of development was in MS's corner. Cell architecture took a bigger learning curve. XNA was easy, and allowed for quick cross platform implementation.
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Second, who on earth wants to play the same game on three different platforms? There is no market for this. Fun and exciting on a phone won't yield the same results on a PC or gaming system.
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Plants vs. Zombies (Casual Gaming in General), Adventure games like Monkey Island, Lots of current games on Xbox live arcade would suit touch experiences just fine. RPGs like Harvest, Carmack is porting a touch version of Rage to the iPhone, that's a multiplatform game. I could go on, but I think you get the point.
Live sucked on the first xbox. Games did too. Although Halo did do well. PS2 dominated.
PS3 hurt itself price wise, it was just too expensive, but it stayed sold out. Sony couldn't keep up with the demand.
360 had a better price. Although MS lost money with each system sold.
Wii kicked both of their asses though!
Also I have never heard of any of those games, none.
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Although MS lost money with each system sold.
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And so did Sony.
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Wii kicked both of their asses though!
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Because it's a more casual thing than PS3 and XBox. It also is a fine second console. Few people would have both PS3 and XBox (some do), but Wii as a complement to a hardcore console is just fine.
Back to the PSP phone, I am skeptical about its future. It's done by Sony Ericsson who will want to have it as a differentiator against other Android phones just as against other OSes. They want to build it with specific hardware buttons, and the games developed for it will most probably not be as much fun or won't work at all on other phones. Even if they are developed with other phones in mind, it's not at all necessary that other phones will have similar quality hardware/high performance drivers to benefit from these games. And finally, Sony will most probably want to set a high price point for these games as they won't want to cannibalize their own product (even if such a decision would benefit them overall).
I can agree with your whole comment.
Especially the differentiate part.
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I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.
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I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.
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That's what I'm hoping. The idea of an Android handset that runs "PSP" games really doesn't appeal to me. On the other hand, when the PSP Go came out I thought to myself "this would be a great device if it had a touch screen, a decent browser and maybe some apps". If Sony release a new PSP that runs Android with an XMB skin it'd be pretty awesome!
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I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.
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It will be PSP Phone on Android.
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Live sucked on the first xbox. Games did too. Although Halo did do well. PS2 dominated.
PS3 hurt itself price wise, it was just too expensive, but it stayed sold out. Sony couldn't keep up with the demand.
360 had a better price. Although MS lost money with each system sold.
Wii kicked both of their asses though!
Also I have never heard of any of those games, none.
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You sir must have been living under a rock in the gaming world right now. At least on the PC side of things.
I do agree with him that their are many games that would be awesome to have multi platform capabilities. Plants Vs Zombies is my current crack and love playing it on my PC and Netbook as well as a 2G iPhone my buddy let me have since he got a 4. (no I do not use the iPhone for anything asside from PvZ actually lol). Monkey Island was a classic adventure game that is actually really good on WM6.5 with Scum emulator, and other Xbox Arcade titles like the little known "Greed Corp" would be epic on the phone since it is 3d, simple, quick (games last 15minutes MAX) and turn based so multiplayer would work.
Here's a link from engadget showcasing the upcoming games for WP7. Gotta say some of them look really nice + avatar integration looks fantastic.
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In total, the company will launch with over 60 game titles, with new offerings appearing every week in the Xbox Live Marketplace, just like its big brother console version.
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I was worried that the xbox hub would be watered down for launch since every time the phone has been demoed they've always said that xbox tile is in construction. But they had some really polished features in there.
And 60 launch titles is fairly substantial, along with some major titles. Castlevania, Halo: Waypoint (don't think this is a game), Star Wars, Crackdown, and Guitar Hero.
Looks nice. Can't wait until they add in real time multi player action, just like on the console.
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Gizmodo likes it as well
it lookin better than i thought
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Looks nice. Can't wait until they add in real time multi player action, just like on the console.
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+1 this is the feature im looking forward to the most, i hope they add it early 2011 or before
Xbox live on WP7 is full of win!!
Being able to customise your avatar from your phone, apps that use your avatar looks sweet.
Hopefully we see titles such as Forza for WP7 soon too
I am interested in seeing how ASSASSIN CREED works on WP7
They look cracking! If this is what can be expected from here on in then WP7 as a gaming platform could be phenominal! I like the iPhone as a mobile gaming platform as it is, but this is like the next step up
The little comercial for it at the bottom looks fantastic as well. Some of those games look like a lot of fun on a phone. I continue to hope they port over many more from Xbox Arcade (Really want PvZ, Greed Corp, Worms, and others).
Overall the phone is looking like a multimedia power house. Zune, Netflix, XBLive, and (for me) Sprint 4G. Very awesome indeed.
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The little comercial for it at the bottom looks fantastic as well. Some of those games look like a lot of fun on a phone. I continue to hope they port over many more from Xbox Arcade (Really want PvZ, Greed Corp, Worms, and others).
Overall the phone is looking like a multimedia power house. Zune, Netflix, XBLive, and (for me) Sprint 4G. Very awesome indeed.
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Geometry Wars 2 is the only Xbox Live Arcade game you'll ever need .
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Geometry Wars 2 is the only Xbox Live Arcade game you'll ever need .
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lies all lies...castle crashers & marvel vs capcom 2 are must
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lies all lies...castle crashers & marvel vs capcom 2 are must
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MvC2 without buttons? I rather see it on the PSP.
To be fair, Street Fighter IV for iPhone is alright. I could see a port happening (though hopefully with QWERTY support so that those of us that HATE on-screen gamepads can happily play...).
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MvC2 without buttons? I rather see it on the PSP.
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I was saying that because he said it was the only "Xbox Live Arcade game" you needed not wp7 game, but i didnt read what he was replying to my bad...anyways no i couldnt imagine playing MvC2 on a phone & enjoying myself plus without real multiplayer on wp7 i cant see much reason to play it anyway even if they could figure out a good control scheme
Shadow complex would be interesting though. If I had that and geometry wars I'd be satisfied.
Gave Hello Rocket a go and it's a worthy game. Simple, non frustrating and casual time-passer. Maybe it gets tougher later in the game, but the first part suggests a simple game.
Looks like Monster Up and Burn it All is equally as simple and fun. If you like a quality jump game...I rarely do...Monster Up seems to fill the need.
Halo! There needs to be some kind of a Halo game released with the phone. Halo has been such an iconic presence in my generation, that I would say its equivalent to Star Wars of the generation before. I'm surprised that MS isn't bringing it to launch of an important moment of the company.
Equivalent to star wars?!
Haha, get real!
But it would be nice with Halo on wp7 even though Ive never played it.
HALO was my first 3D shooter that was really good, that I played. I actually won it in some competition many years ago. But I never finished it. If I could, lets say, play at home on PC, save game, and then continue on phone -- we know that this is possible -- in HALO, I would buy wp7 device rightaway.
I wouldn't say equivalent to star wars or anywhere close to that. I'd say more like mortal kombat or something or that nature. Halo would be a nice game to add for the fps lovers.
Gears of War > Halo
I think part of Halo's allure is it's story, but honestly I couldn't get past the bad gameplay to find out.
Halo takes mechanics best suited on the PC and puts them into a console, which feels horrible. I prefer the way Gears of War approached the issue, while a mouse & keyboard would probably still feel better, it was at least some thought went into how the controls of the game work on a gamepad.
If you haven't heard already their is some form of Halo game coming out on release day.
No other info as of yet.
But a list of 60+ games to be ready on launch day shows some good dev backbone. Hopefully their is like 600 apps to go with that.
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If you haven't heard already their is some form of Halo game coming out on release day.
No other info as of yet.
But a list of 60+ games to be ready on launch day shows some good dev backbone. Hopefully their is like 600 apps to go with that.
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If you're talking about Halo: Waypoint that's not a game, it's some sort of Halo Network program.
A full HALO game with real time XBOX Live multiplay. That would be too much fun!
Reality hits; its not going to happen. Possible but not going to happen.
Plus AT&T users would ruin the fun with their bad network. Imagine all the pauses because of people with slow net speeds.
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As long as MS releases some realtime multiplayer games, then I will be happy. MS has stated perhaps by next year (Q1 or Q2).
Did some searching Apple has it now!
NOVA
other multiplayer games
Never really liked touch screen fps games, analogue sticks ain't great for shooters as it is without making them virtual. Think a Halo Wars game would probably suit the format a lot better.
Just a quick question: Is this phone's gaming-thingies more for the hardcore or could potentially be for the hardcore? or is it geared toward the casual gamer? considering other platforms have Dead Space and NFS Shift? Having second thoughts
I'd say casual, it has xbox live integration however the current selection of games on offer are either overpriced or indie / casual orientated. ilomilo for example.
The whole idea of gaming on a mobile device is that it's casual. It's deigned for people who want to play a game while on the bus, during free time, in queues.
Yes, gaming on mobiles will improve but they'll always be casual. Why would someone want to play on a 3.7" screen when they have a large HDTV and XBOX / PS at home?
Even in technologically advanced games such as Dead Space, it's still designed to give you something to do when you have a little time to waste.
Casual, in fact, mobile gaming will always be consider casual in my opinion due to the fact that they have to last all day. I personally wouldn't take hardcore gaming serious on a phone when I have a laptop that can run just about any game.
WP7 - casual
IOS/Android -hardcore and casual, especially with HDMI out or video out. You basically have a Wii and a Playstation in your hand.
Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.
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Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.
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Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.
Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.
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Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.
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Why would I want to play watered down versions of games? I will still choose computer over mobile any day, mainly because I don't have to make calls on my computer. Oh and
Don't see smartphones OS' being taken serious for hardcore gaming, unless you consider the tablet counterparts with the larger screen size.
A phone can't match the hardware performance of an Xbox 360, PS3 or a new generation PC because of the size constraints, battery restriction, etc. You can't really compare a game console that is always plugged to the power source to a phone, or even a tablet, that has to use a small battery.
Now, phones still get some really good games, but a console/pc will still be a better place for hardcore gamers.
Both.
They're the best games I've ever played on a mobile. Coming from years on Android I thought they had some decent games until I came over.
Some are Casual, some are "Hardcore" (especially since you describe NFS Shift as Hardcore, WP7 has NFS Undercover).
The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.
Who said anything about matching hardware performance of today? Fact smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC capabilities. Its like you guys want to argue for fun, but this is a fact.
WP7 is lonely gaming. When im around my friend with a iphone, I can pull out my android phone and play against him. Everyone doesn't have an iphone, and everyone doesn't have a Android, but we can play against each other effortlessly.
Hardcore to me is everything beyond Angry birds style of gaming.
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The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.
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Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.
The only thing Xbox LIVE wins at is chat. Game Center pawns at everything else. And you know what Xbox LIVE is available on every other major smartphone OS.
Microsoft has a huge chance to take this market over, but right now their screwing it up.
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Game Center pawns at everything else.
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And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.
This is supposed to be casual.
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Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
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Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.
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I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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Halo port? Isn't NOVA out, change the name and its the same thing as Halo.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.
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why not? According to you, every OS rocks except wp7.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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The PSP2 is designed for one thing, gaming obviously, at least I hope Sony is marketing it as that.
I've only played Halo once and it seems pretty fun. Would be really cool if they had the energy sword on the port.
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Yes I have. It reminds me more of the Nintendo DS gaming, which is casual.
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Angry Birds for Windows Phone is now Live!
Posted on Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:38 pm EDT by Daniel Rubino
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Yes, people. Let the taunting end tonight. Between the promise of custom ringtones and now the fulfillment of 'Angry Birds', Windows Phone 7 has had its day.
Angry Birds is easy on of the most anticipated games to hit the new OS and it should gives us a wee bit more parity with competing systems (using some odd metric for success, of course). From the app description, it's what you expect:
"Angry Birds is coming to Windows Phone! The survival of the angry birds is at stake. Dish out revenge on the green pigs who stole the birds’ eggs. Use the unique destructive powers of the angry birds to lay waste to the pigs’ fortified castles. Each of the 165 levels requires logic, skill and brute force to crush the enemy."
The game fetches for $2.99 with a free trial, as usual, though we're skipping right to 'buy' since we're kind of predictable like that. You can get it right now by following this link to the Marketplace. Hit us up in comments and let us know what you think. (Thanks, Dalton C., for the heads up!)
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Plays well on Mozart, just as addictive as on the other platforms...well done rovio! WP7 feels a little more complete now.
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When will we get the other angry birds games like seasons or Rio....
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When will we get the other angry birds games like seasons or Rio....
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Or the other 90 levels that are missing from this version?
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Or the other 90 levels that are missing from this version?
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...get the paid version....
angry bird is fun to play,,,,,thanx for sharing the information,,,,
There are only 21 levels available in the trial version right ?
I've never played this game on any platform previously... I only bought it in reaction to so many ppl yearning for it... lol...
I was getting by with pandas v ninjas...
Plays well... I like it... Believe the hype!
I like this port much better than the android port. It's smoother, the graphics seem crisper, and the physics is spot on. Don't forget the achievements!
Sorry for double post, but I'm wondering what is the breakdown of levels for Angry Birds for WP7 ? 63 for Poached Eggs, and how many of the respective levels ? How about the other missing 90 levels ?
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Guess again.
The WP7 paid version is listed in the Marketplace as having 165 levels. The full version on both Android and iOS is listed in their respective markets as having 255 levels. Do the math.
Very smooth.....Im at the point where Ill be happy with any app or game that just runs smoothly, without lag or choppiness. too many are plagued by this. Looking forward to Mango for this very reason.
It might sound odd, but I found the framerate a tad lower than on android (maybe because I played on a tab).
I do like the game, but I was annoyed that it took ages to port it, made it quite pricey compared to other platforms, but didn't even take their time to fix tombstoning !!! Surely they will fix it, but it's far from perfect now.
I downloaded the trial version, and played through it once, and it was fine. But when I tried to play through some of the levels again, it force closed every time I tried to select a level. I rebooted my phone and tried again, and it worked again. But after closing the game again, and using my phone for other things, the force close returned the next time I tried to load a level. It doesn't seem ready for prime time to me. ESPECIALLY with it's higher-than-every-other-platform price tag.
Not as smooth as the iOS version. I get some hiccups now and then. Using Samsung Focus.
Is there any way to link your achievements with Facebook? I do this with my ps3 trophies when I get a trophy it posts to my wall not sure how Xbox works
Can confirm a few random crashes, no tombstoning with start button, and lag now and then with choppy framerate, nothing major but seriously in contrast with the xboxlive tag and price
I didn't notice any lag or low framerate problems, it's running great on my Omnia.
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I didn't notice any lag or low framerate problems, it's running great on my Omnia.
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My quantum is running it great. I bought it at 7:30am EST =) I actually think it looks better than its iPhone counterpart, the initial startup time seemed a little longer than an iPhone4 but mango could close that gap.
I have a quantum too and showed my mate with an iGroan 4 who loves angry birds and within seconds he stated it looked better and smoother than his iGroan... After playing it on my phone he even said the control was better... And he's staunch iGroan...