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I am currently a Motorola Razr user (yes, I am way behind the times!), and it finally is time to get a smartphone. I don't want to get the iPhone because I can't stand Apple, and I think I've narrowed my search down to the Droid Incredible (I think the Droid X is a bit large).
However, I have a few questions I hope can get answered, and I need some advice:
1) Battery life- I have heard mixed things about the Inc's battery life. Most say it is not good, and some say it is just fine. If I am planning on rooting and loading a custom ROM, how would you rate the battery life? Compared to the Droid X and the iPhone 4? How long does a single charge last?
2) LED light - I know the video mode does not turn on the LED light for constant light, but I read somewhere that the Inc will get an update that will get LED constant video light - is this true? I know 720p was recently added.
3) I just checked out the phone at my local Verizon store, and when scrolling through menus/etc it tends to lag sometimes. Can this be fixed if I root and load a custom ROM?
4) I am also thinking about waiting for the Samsung Fascinate to come out, but that could be a while, and I need a phone pretty soon (in the next week or two). If the Droid Inc. is very close to the Fascinate in features (which I think it is except for the Super AMOLED 4-inch screen), would it be wise to wait for the Samsung, or should I bite the bullet and get the Droid Inc. now?
Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks in advance.
1. Battery sucks. Only 4hours of moderate use.
2. I never use the led light, so I can't help there
3. Roms and kernels fix all lag. Try cm6 or skyraider with Hydra v.08 icicles or ocov (whichever is stable). That will fix lag.
4. Super amoled vs amoled- you can see super amoled in the sun, and it is difficult with regular.
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Wow u sure know a lot without having the phone. I've had the Droid incredible now for around 3 months, I used to have the iPhone then a LG dare then the Droid Eris. I can honestly say the Incredible is the best of all the phones ever.
1) battery life- battery life for Me lasted 22 hours but this depends entirely upon how you use your phone. I had maybe a half hour of music a day, 20-40 texts and maybe a half hour of all the other stuff. Now I am rooted and running a rom(cyanogenmod test 7) on my incredible and I can get possibly a few extra hours of batt.
2) Led Light - in order to use the LED light while video recording, I believe their should be an ota update comming out as earley as friday that will fix this problem and add many more features.
3) Performance - when it comes to the speed and performance of the device, that depends on what is taking up the CPU, the more apps you have running, if you download task manager to kill the apps to stop them from running, the CPU will have more ram to coordinate itself. As it stands, the phone you saw in the store probably had its ram( CPU) taken up by all the running apps. An overclocked kernel for use with a rom can also solve this problem.
4) give or take- I highly reccomend the Incredible to anyone on Verizon's network. I too found the Droid x was very large and wouldent fit my lifestyle. As for the Samsung Facinate. The incredible and facinate are very close performance wise. If I was in your position I might consider the facinate just because its newer, but I highly reccomend the incredible because its just amazing.
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Avazee,
I recently got an Incredible, coming from Windows Mobile. I've been using WinMo for about 3 years now and got tired of it, mostly due to AT&Ts crappy network. Was waiting for them to get their network improved and possibly get better phones but iPhone wasn't my choice either.
Here are some of my objective (hopefully) experience so far -- keep in mind I only have it for 5 days now.
1) Size: the device is the right size for me. I tried the EVO and while it's has a really nice screen, it's too big for my needs. The Incredible I get the same hardware with a smaller size factor.
2) Battery: this was a major concern of mine when getting this phone. However, so far I haven't noticed bad battery life on it. I used it for about 2-3 hours non stop (playing games, checking emails). For the rest of the day I had only Mobile Data enable and everything else disabled (GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth). I also installed "Advanced Task Killer" which is configured to kill tasks every 30 mins. This a great program and works well so far. I have purchased the upgraded battery (1750 mAh) which does not require a back cover change. Still waiting to get it. For the usage I did today, I had about 40% battery left.
3) Customization: The same day I got the phone, I was able to root the device and load custom ROMs. While I'm familiar with the ROM process on WinMo, I think the Android is much easier to work with. There are some good guides on the forums and UnRevoked makes it very easy to root the phone. After flashing a few ROMs, I ended up flashing back the Verizon ROM and using ADB to remove a few package. Works fine for me. Don't get any lags or notice any performance issue with HTC Sense. You can always replace HTC Sense with LauncherPro or some other launcher. LauncherPro has a lot of customization.
4) Screen: AMOLED ver Super AMOLED, I don't think there's much difference, at least from what I've read and seen in videos. Haven't seen the Super AMOLED in person to compare. What I can tell you about the Incredible, is that I have no issue with the screen so far. I have it set to auto adjust the brightness which seems to work well.
Using it for only 4 days, I think it's a great phone and customization seems to be endless, or at least can keep you VERY busy.
Verizon should have a 30 day return policy so order it, try it out and see how it works for you. If you don't like it, return it and wait for the Samsung or some other ones coming up... you will not be short of options. lol.
Hope that was somewhat helpful. If you need any specific info, PM me.
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Wow u sure know a lot without having the phone. I've had the Droid incredible now for around 3 months, I used to have the iPhone then a LG dare then the Droid Eris. I can honestly say the Incredible is the best of all the phones ever.
1) battery life- battery life for Me lasted 22 hours but this depends entirely upon how you use your phone. I had maybe a half hour of music a day, 20-40 texts and maybe a half hour of all the other stuff. Now I am rooted and running a rom(cyanogenmod test 7) on my incredible and I can get possibly a few extra hours of batt.
2) Led Light - in order to use the LED light while video recording, I believe their should be an ota update comming out as earley as friday that will fix this problem and add many more features.
3) Performance - when it comes to the speed and performance of the device, that depends on what is taking up the CPU, the more apps you have running, if you download task manager to kill the apps to stop them from running, the CPU will have more ram to coordinate itself. As it stands, the phone you saw in the store probably had its ram( CPU) taken up by all the running apps. An overclocked kernel for use with a rom can also solve this problem.
4) give or take- I highly reccomend the Incredible to anyone on Verizon's network. I too found the Droid x was very large and wouldent fit my lifestyle. As for the Samsung Facinate. The incredible and facinate are very close performance wise. If I was in your position I might consider the facinate just because its newer, but I highly reccomend the incredible because its just amazing.
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Wow, you have good battery life, but you probably don't use it as much as I.
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Wow, thanks for all the responses, I greatly appreciate it!
ecltech, thanks for the info. I just checked Verizon's return policy, and they state that there is a $35 restocking fee for all returns. Is that true?
Also, which upgraded battery did you get, that doesn't add any bulk/size?
I just wish someone knew when the Samsung Fascinate is coming out... if it were 2-4 weeks away, I'd probably just wait until that comes out.
Thanks again for the help.
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ecltech, thanks for the info. I just checked Verizon's return policy, and they state that there is a $35 restocking fee for all returns. Is that true?
Also, which upgraded battery did you get, that doesn't add any bulk/size?
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The battery I purchased is from www.seidioonline.net. I've used their products in the past for a previous WinMo phone and it works well. The battery is a slim battery while adding additional capacity so it does not add any bulk to the phone.
Yes, Verizon's return policy has a $35.00 restocking fee. I look at it as a small price to pay for using the phone for 30 days and then returning it.
Try both and see what best fits your needs. In the end it's what works best for you that matters.
Good luck!
Yeah, unfortunately, still no word on the Fascinate/Galaxy S for VZW. But if you need a phone now, you'll be happy with the Incredible.
Avazee said:
I am currently a Motorola Razr user (yes, I am way behind the times!), and it finally is time to get a smartphone. I don't want to get the iPhone because I can't stand Apple, and I think I've narrowed my search down to the Droid Incredible (I think the Droid X is a bit large).
However, I have a few questions I hope can get answered, and I need some advice:
1) Battery life- I have heard mixed things about the Inc's battery life. Most say it is not good, and some say it is just fine. If I am planning on rooting and loading a custom ROM, how would you rate the battery life? Compared to the Droid X and the iPhone 4? How long does a single charge last?
2) LED light - I know the video mode does not turn on the LED light for constant light, but I read somewhere that the Inc will get an update that will get LED constant video light - is this true? I know 720p was recently added.
3) I just checked out the phone at my local Verizon store, and when scrolling through menus/etc it tends to lag sometimes. Can this be fixed if I root and load a custom ROM?
4) I am also thinking about waiting for the Samsung Fascinate to come out, but that could be a while, and I need a phone pretty soon (in the next week or two). If the Droid Inc. is very close to the Fascinate in features (which I think it is except for the Super AMOLED 4-inch screen), would it be wise to wait for the Samsung, or should I bite the bullet and get the Droid Inc. now?
Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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1) battery life. Coming from a non smart phone (I had a ENV Touch) the battery life simply does not compare. That battery would last for days with moderate use, and over a week with light use. But that's one of the trade-offs with any smart phone. I charge nightly now, but haven't had any issues with the stock battery draining during a day of moderate use. Compared to my BB curve (which I still have, stupid work exchange server policies) battery life is similar when it comes to periods when the phone is heavily used, but it does seem to drain faster on standby. Overall, battery is bearable in my opinion.
2) dunno.
3) I don't notice any lag on mine. It's always been very responsive in my experience with the stock setup. Anyplace in particular?
4) The Galaxy S is the only one of the 4" screen models I've seen yet which I'd consider over the Incredible. It's still a bigger phone, and I really like the size of the incredible. The screen should be better in sunlight, and looks to have a little better color in the videos I've seen, and it also should be much better in terms of 3D processing. If it was out today, I'd definitely consider trading in my incredible for one. But it's not, and who knows when it will be released.
Overall I've been really happy with my incredible, and don't think you can go wrong with the phone. If you can hold off, the Fascinate looks like a great phone as well, but two months later, yet another phone which is better yet will be released. The incredible is proven to be a very solid phone, samsung has had some hits and misses in the past.
Cool - I am really thinking about getting the Inc., instead of waiting for the Fascinate to come out. A few more questions in the meantime:
1) Out of curiosity, is it possible to purchase a European Galaxy S and have it work on AT&T here in the US?
2) If I buy the Inc., root it and load a custom ROM, will I still receive OTA updates for FroYo and the other patch that adds the Video light?
Thanks again for everyone's help.
I've had the phone since launch... not sure how long its been now....
1) Battery life is pretty decent for a smartphone. I have the Seidio 1750mAh battery and I get 19-20 hours everyday with 30-40% left. I leave home at 5AM and I don't plug in until I go to sleep, usually around 12. I however wouldn't recommend the seidio battery as its more expensive than the TP2 battery and you get the same capacity. Take a look at Batteryboss.org. I own 3 of these Seidio batteries and if you take the plastic cover off, you can see they are all 1500-1590mAh cells. I use Gtalk all day, not much SMS, around 20 Gmails and 10-15 exchange emails a day with realtime syncing, and about an hour of talk per day. I use automatic task killer as well.
2) The 2.2 Froyo ROMs have the light on for the camcorder. Check here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738634
3) The lags through the menus are most likely because of everyone playing with the phone, opening all the apps, webpages, etc and never killing any tasks or rebooting. This is a "smartphone/computer" and closing programs is necessary. I have had lag in the menus usually when the phone is syncing or installing an app etc, very few though. Also the froyo with 2.6.32 gives you more available RAM and its faster, haven't had any menu lag yet!
4) The hummingbird SoC is definitely an improvement of Snapdragon, same cpu (very close) just better gpu and other small changes. The superAmoled display is mainly brighter in the fascinate, makes reading the display in sunlight easier.
Incredible Vs Fascinate? Its really a look and feel preference I'd say... You really need to touch the device and use it in person to make an informed decision. For me, the incredible is very thin and light and fits in my pocket with no case, just a zagg shield and I barely notice its there, thats why I chose it. If you need a phone very soon get the incredible from BestBuy and pricematch wirefly or amazon. They have a 30 day return policy (no restocking fee) and you can exchange it if you decide on the Fascinate.
PS. I think the incredible is still back ordered. Everyone I've seen has a 5-10 days delay... Might be worth just waiting a couple weeks to decide
I just bit the bullet and just purchased a the Droid Incredible. I'm excited - hopefully it will arrive next week.
As another stupid (I apologize in advance) question - where do start when it comes to rooting/loading the best ROM? Is there a quick link/blog post/guide that shows me?
Many thanks again for all the help so far.
Avazee said:
I just bit the bullet and just purchased a the Droid Incredible. I'm excited - hopefully it will arrive next week.
As another stupid (I apologize in advance) question - where do start when it comes to rooting/loading the best ROM? Is there a quick link/blog post/guide that shows me?
Many thanks again for all the help so far.
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Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739428
Have fun!
Avazee said:
I am currently a Motorola Razr user (yes, I am way behind the times!), and it finally is time to get a smartphone. I don't want to get the iPhone because I can't stand Apple, and I think I've narrowed my search down to the Droid Incredible (I think the Droid X is a bit large).
However, I have a few questions I hope can get answered, and I need some advice:
1) Battery life- I have heard mixed things about the Inc's battery life. Most say it is not good, and some say it is just fine. If I am planning on rooting and loading a custom ROM, how would you rate the battery life? Compared to the Droid X and the iPhone 4? How long does a single charge last?
2) LED light - I know the video mode does not turn on the LED light for constant light, but I read somewhere that the Inc will get an update that will get LED constant video light - is this true? I know 720p was recently added.
3) I just checked out the phone at my local Verizon store, and when scrolling through menus/etc it tends to lag sometimes. Can this be fixed if I root and load a custom ROM?
4) I am also thinking about waiting for the Samsung Fascinate to come out, but that could be a while, and I need a phone pretty soon (in the next week or two). If the Droid Inc. is very close to the Fascinate in features (which I think it is except for the Super AMOLED 4-inch screen), would it be wise to wait for the Samsung, or should I bite the bullet and get the Droid Inc. now?
Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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STOP READING MY MIND!!!!!!
seriously though, this post is exactly what i've been going through the last two weeks...
i couldn't decide whether to wait for the elusive Fascinate or go for the Inc or the X. throw in the rumors that tiered data is coming soon too... i've been so anxious lately.
i couldn't take it anymore so i ordered the Inc. the X is way too big for my hands to use one handed comfortably.
Sense is way better than Ninjablur. Samsung's UI stinks. The Inc has higher pixel density and a better processor imo.
i'm only worried about the crappy audio codec and slow framerates during HD recording. Man, the sound is horrible.
i sure wish i could get a solid release date on the fascinate. graphics chip is sick. BUT, i don't wanna wait too long and lose the opportunity to get unlimited data.
Avazee said:
I am currently a Motorola Razr user (yes, I am way behind the times!), and it finally is time to get a smartphone. I don't want to get the iPhone because I can't stand Apple, and I think I've narrowed my search down to the Droid Incredible (I think the Droid X is a bit large).
However, I have a few questions I hope can get answered, and I need some advice:
1) Battery life- I have heard mixed things about the Inc's battery life. Most say it is not good, and some say it is just fine. If I am planning on rooting and loading a custom ROM, how would you rate the battery life? Compared to the Droid X and the iPhone 4? How long does a single charge last?
2) LED light - I know the video mode does not turn on the LED light for constant light, but I read somewhere that the Inc will get an update that will get LED constant video light - is this true? I know 720p was recently added.
3) I just checked out the phone at my local Verizon store, and when scrolling through menus/etc it tends to lag sometimes. Can this be fixed if I root and load a custom ROM?
4) I am also thinking about waiting for the Samsung Fascinate to come out, but that could be a while, and I need a phone pretty soon (in the next week or two). If the Droid Inc. is very close to the Fascinate in features (which I think it is except for the Super AMOLED 4-inch screen), would it be wise to wait for the Samsung, or should I bite the bullet and get the Droid Inc. now?
Any help would be tremendously appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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I'd say don't buy one. It's a great phone.. Best one I ever had in my opinion. If your a newb, looking for help ,without getting insulted, this isn't the phone for you!
Love the phone, hate the support. Don't get this phone if you don't know more than anyone else around here. Prepare for total Internet tough guy vengeance as they flex there "i know more unix than you!" muscles at every turn. Want a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer if a certain csv is supported by 2.2?
Prepare for a, total IRC rock em sock em, you don't know what i know, brawl as they flirt with file extensions and unix innuendos that you don't understand. Make new names in irc to mock you, and just piss all over yer newbness. Just bask in the awesomeness of there skills and eat it. YOU DONT KNOW MORE THAN ME LA LA LAA LAA LAAA LAAA!
Sums up my experience so far. Thanks IRC!
Ok hold on before you fly off the handle - I'm trying to ask a very specific question, to probably a fairly small sub group of people.
I own an iPhone 4 and a Desire. I , for the most part got the iPhone 4 because of the fairly bad battery life on the Desire - not to mention that I had just come out of contract with my ATT account so I could get a discounted iPhone toy.
Are there any others out there that have had experience with both of these devices and if so have you been even close to being sucessful at obtaining similar battery life? Which ROM and / or what SetCPU settings (I'm not entirely convinced how much difference that makes for me)??
It is now 5:27 pm and I have tried my best to have both devices used for the same things. I alternaated phone calls. I pushed emails to both devices nd I even tried to duplicate SMS's as much as psossible with help of a third person.
The iPhone has 80% left and the Desire has 60%. If anything though I used the iPhone more because it has my primary SIM card in it.
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JC
Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
maybe it's your battery stats.....wipe the nattery info and recalibrate your desire....you might have a fix then
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Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
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Thanks - I haven't tried Cyanogen but i've tried enough of the others over some months that I knew that answer had to be a particular ROM OR the possibilty that it just wasn't going to happen.
Thanks
i use pays 1.9 rom and the battery is holding the charge much longer, i didn't charge the phone for 3 days and today it had 50 % before i started to play need for speed shift . and the iphone doesn't use as much charge as the desire because it has a crapy old lcd display and no REAL multitasing....
I got roufianos v6 and i get a day of heavy duty work on desire, day and a half with low medium usage and im happy with the battery. (wifi on all the time, auto sinc on an hour of fb, weather, xda rss news, nimbuzz chat, gtalk chat, couple of calls and sms, homerun battle 3d, internet checking fb and other forums, xda app couple times a day and thats pretty much most of the duty) i couldnt last 2 days with nokia x6 with 1/10th of that usage.
Besides, iphone doesnt have this insanely beautiful amoled bright colors do its normal its battery lasts longer. Its also got a diferent system and diferent multitasking codes. Desire runs some proceses in the background for certain period of time so it loads diferent apps u just used faster.
Besides, charge the phone over night and use it over day and u wont notice the battery life is bad at all. U cant enjoy iphone as much as u can enjoy desire if u know what each individual device is capable of.
If u ask me, u can give me an ever lasting iphone or a day lasting batteri on desire and id pick desire. As a matter of fact id pick desire over any combination about phones u make
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OH oh - Sorry I didn't mean to get the iPhone war going. I have jsut noticed that the battery life has somehow greatly improved with the iphone 4 vs the 3 and I had previously not been making it even through the day with my Desire.
Probably wouldn't have even been looking at the Iphone if it hadn't been for the battery issue with the Desire.
Again I was just hoping some others had been able to personally experience the battery thing so I could get a better idea of whether to go back to the drawing (ROM) board or to give up.
Thanks all
I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I will be also interrested to know if A2SD+ improves battery...
Hello
After flashing, re flashing and re re flashing so many times.... now atleast i have gone bored of the HTC Desire. This is mainly because there are not many good quality apps specially games. I am no Apple fanboy but the app store is something that android doesnt looks like achieving pretty soon.
The main things i like in HTC Desire are as following:-
1) Wifi Hotspot. WOW! thats so cool
2) being able to customize it as u want it to with widgets.
3) FRIENDSTREAM WIDGET its simply awesome
4) weather animations
Thats all.
The major things i dont like are:-
1) Camera. its just ok, not that good.
2) battery.... it drains battery as if its hungry all the time
3) no good games/apps
So what do you have to say? Are you still happy with the Desire or are you planning to go with something else?
As far as i am concerned i have decided to sell it very soon.... but wifi hotspot feature is what i love the most.
If you want to play games get a DS
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Angry Birds, Doodle Jump, Abducted, Alchemy... they are the best games I've installed on my phone
Kept me busy for a good while!
On top of that there's all the emulators - now they aren't so hot for action (but probably better with wiimote add in) games, but for some others they work just fine!
I love my Desire - before that I had the WM HTC Touch HD, now that has a serious lack of games... the best I found was solitaire or ScummVM...
I have to agree, there are not so many really good games in the market right now. But I'm sure this will change. Many surveys etc. suggest more and more developers of mobile application and games are considering developing for android, and seeing as the number of android phones rises continually I think the growing market will attract more and more developers. So I guess you just have to hang in there untill then
Yes I agree there are few game the ones u listed. But they completed and then what after that? Same boring things. When will we have more stuff. Android platform is awesome but.....
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sparkyxda said:
If you want to play games get a DS
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We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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We take a multimedia phone so that we have everything in it. Isn't it?
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good point, but as you said its a multimedia phone, emphasis being on a phone, you say there are no good games but what are you comparing this too? a ds? a psp? these are dedicated gaming machines and therefore will always have the upper hand, as other mobile platforms go the games on android are quite good, just check out the gameloft HD series and others like NFS Shift
Rooting and installing a custom ROM is the answer, that is what makes the desires one of the best PDA's on the market nowadays even better than the iPhone I would say.
I have been an iPhone user for the last 2 years I just love how many more things I can do with my desire.
And if the battery issue is a problem try custom kernels, they work great
have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
I was happy until the random reboots started and I cannot send it to service so I am stuck at using it as rare as possible since every time I use it to much it reboots and then gets stuck at the white HTC screen and I have to reinstall the ROM to be able to boot again.
I like(d) it alot, and am thinking of getting another Desire. Or getting a completely different company device. Still confused
Battery drain is not a problem at all. Just compare to other os and you'll see that the situation is better on Android os due to custom kernels and cpu dynamic speed adjusting.
I agree with the battery drain issue, and the touch feeling of screen is not better than IP4
lots of nice games on android you just need to know how to hunt them
with froyo the touch responsiveness is equal to the iphone 4, SLCD desire is pretty close to IP4 screen quality too, a little less density but better colors, the IP4 screen is also much closer to the surface which is nice but ours is a little bigger
my fav game is asphalt 5 but i keep loosing my save game due to messing with my rom
another very impressive game i'm hooked at is panzer panic
also minisquadron, hyperjump, meteor blitz, heavy gunner, backbreaker, need for speed shift and hero of sparta all very impressive
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have tried custom roms... almost all good ones. but the battery problem still persists. actually by reading at various sites like engadget i came to know that the battery drain problem is actually of android os itself. hmmmm....
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I am atm using Deforst with 1113 HAVS kernel and setin SetCpu to 1113 MHZ and I can tell you my battery life is much much better than when running stock froyo
one more thing i'm taking great pictures with the default camera app, you just need to know how to handle it's settings, for example i set sharpness to -2 which removes all the digital treatment ie over sharpness, also set colors and brightness + 1 and of course choosing correcting ISO at night
people are often just blindly impressed by the iphone 4 pics but compare them side by side and you will notice horrible performance at night from the iphone 4 and horrible of noise even at indoor daylight, even the colors produced by the iphone 4 camera are unreal
only two wins for the iphone 4 cam for me, the flawless 720p and HDR
If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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ste1164 said:
If you really want them in a phone buy and iPhone 4 and jailbreak it for the WiFi hotspot?
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did i read it for real or am i dreaming!!! wifi hotspot can be achieved in the iphone!! thats cool does it works with 3gs too?
ahhhh but then there is no bluetooth. iBluetooth... i used it when i had 3g... but thats no good at all.
desire is still good. but just now had a look at winphone 7 devices. awesomeness redefined
i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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i am a fairly heavy user and get 2 days worth of battery out of mine, if i dont use wifi i am on 3 days. The iphone4 is just as hungry when it comes to battery
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oh REALLY!!!! i dont get more than 1 day... even i have to charge 2-3 times a day. well... very soon, maybe, i will get a new phone. maybe windows phone 7. but it has lots of limitations just like iphone....
lets see.... what happens
Hey guys, I'm currently using a Nokia N900 and thinking of changing to the Desire Z.
I was wondering how's the battery life on it? I've heard good things about it, that it lasts for quite a decent amount of time. But can someone give me a figure? I'm looking for just normal use such as txting and making phone calls, and occasionally WIFI browsing. I don't use my phone for gaming or music, just running typical apps and all those stuff i mentioned above.
The 2nd is, how are the custom roms development and support for this phone?? I searched around and couldn't find much, or at least decent ones. I'm looking for ROMS that are as good as the equivalent of the Energy ROM for the Windows Mobile devices. Before I stopped using my HTC Touch Pro, I used to be very active on this forum and can find tons of custom ROMS for Windows Mobile devices easily, but i'm not sure about Android though......there doesn't seem to be much.
Oh and it seems there are very little differences between G2 and Desire Z. Both are under the "HTC Vision" category and yes I've already read the topics and did the search on this. I was wondering which one is better overall in terms of performance? It seems the G2 has more ROM or something (can't remember), like 4GB as oppose to Desire Z's 1.5GB....but i'm not sure how that'll affect the performance.
I don't care about the FM radio either so maybe i should go for a G2 instead?
It pretty much comes down to sense or stock android. the roms are generally compatible with both phones.
the battery life is actually much better than i expected coming from a nexus one, htc desire and htc hd2. you should have no problem lasting the day.
I went for the DZ and am very happy with it, the battery life is excellent even with quite a few widgets, a constant live wallpaper running too.
I do need to charge it every night but at work it's using wifi all the time even when asleep and so far i've sent about 20 txt's today, and spoken on the phone for an hour and it's been off it's charger for 8 hours and i'm on 75% battery left.
Reason i haven't put any other ROM's on it yet is because i don't see a need for it yet, my G1 got to CM6 as i wanted stuff that was above android 1.6 but currently the DZ on 2.2 with Sense is working well for me. If i put another Rom on i'd lose my Locations app which i use a lot, free GPS with maps of the world! And some other great Sense things like the selecting text and copy/paste feature which gingerbread mimics. the free tracking and online backup to HTCSense.com too is very useful.
I had 1gb on internal left after the OS is installed and i've still got about 890mb left of that, it shipped with an 8gb microSD card and that's only got about 2gb of stuff on it (locations maps, some music and app backup). Since 2.2 does install apps to the SD card the extra space isn't that vital.
quadrant scores are 1550 - 1580 depending on what it feels like doing lol, which is literally only a few digits below the G2 stock so Sense is hardly using any brain power.
Lag - what lag? i've yet to see it or wait for anything on the phone - it flies.
Scenes, Skins and HTC Hub are just a few more things that customise the device for new users, i'm a veteran but i like what they've done and it makes my friend who just got the Desire HD (and she's an android virgin) so happy and easy for her to use it since Android gets critized for being to hard to use...?! I don't see it
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I went for the DZ and am very happy with it, the battery life is excellent even with quite a few widgets, a constant live wallpaper running too.
I do need to charge it every night but at work it's using wifi all the time even when asleep and so far i've sent about 20 txt's today, and spoken on the phone for an hour and it's been off it's charger for 8 hours and i'm on 75% battery left.
Reason i haven't put any other ROM's on it yet is because i don't see a need for it yet, my G1 got to CM6 as i wanted stuff that was above android 1.6 but currently the DZ on 2.2 with Sense is working well for me. If i put another Rom on i'd lose my Locations app which i use a lot, free GPS with maps of the world! And some other great Sense things like the selecting text and copy/paste feature which gingerbread mimics. the free tracking and online backup to HTCSense.com too is very useful.
I had 1gb on internal left after the OS is installed and i've still got about 890mb left of that, it shipped with an 8gb microSD card and that's only got about 2gb of stuff on it (locations maps, some music and app backup). Since 2.2 does install apps to the SD card the extra space isn't that vital.
quadrant scores are 1550 - 1580 depending on what it feels like doing lol, which is literally only a few digits below the G2 stock so Sense is hardly using any brain power.
Lag - what lag? i've yet to see it or wait for anything on the phone - it flies.
Scenes, Skins and HTC Hub are just a few more things that customise the device for new users, i'm a veteran but i like what they've done and it makes my friend who just got the Desire HD (and she's an android virgin) so happy and easy for her to use it since Android gets critized for being to hard to use...?! I don't see it
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thanks for the reply and I see you're a fellow New Zealander!
Did you buy it on Trademe? How much did you pay for? There's one on Trademe for $800 but that's a G2, otherwise the Desire Z is $849 including free shipping and free accessories.......i'm trying to hold it off until it goes down to $700 though
anyway, i was looking for statistics like how long it lasts after a full charge?? My Nokia N900 on standby lasts about 5 days, if i use it for heavy txt or internet browsing (using wifi) then I can use it for maybe 2 days, until the battery drains completely.
If the Desire Z only lasts 2 days, that's still pretty crap to me.........i'm looking for phones that don't drain as crazy coz that's one of the thing that pisses me off
I came from the Touch Pro 2 with EnergyROM too. But the big difference for me there is that the stock TP2 ROM is absolute garbage, and EnergyROM made it much better. So a custom ROM was much more necessary with WinMo.
I find that my stock DZ ROM is fantastic, it is really smooth and fast. I'm sure I could get even more cool stuff if I upgraded to a custom ROM but right now I'm staying with stock. Cyanogen seems to be by far the most popular custom ROM for the Vision (G2/DZ), though it doesn't include the HTC Sense features that the DZ stock ROM has (stock G2 doesn't have Sense).
By the way, the memory is identical on the G2 and DZ, they're the same phone just with different radio bands. T-Mobile advertised it as having 4 GB but in fact, just like the DZ, the internal storage is setup in the factory to only present 2.2 GB to the ROM (full explanation in the Wiki as to why this is). So performance is identical on the G2/DZ - same CPU, same memory, etc, etc.
I have a G2 and I am a heavy user. On average, I download 1-5 things a day, be it market or otherwise, 150-200 text messages, less than 20 minutes talk time, constant running live wall paper, facebook widget, foursquare widget, weather and time beautiful widget, battery widget, music widget, feedr news widget (all these widgets get used daily), plus a Yahoo! mail app I use daily and I can almost always make it through a full day of use. There are those days when I send more texts or download more things or browse the web more often if there's a lot of good articles on feedr and I might need to charge before the end of the day, but thus far it has the best battery life of any Android phone I've ever used. I typically wake up around 2 or 3pm and go to bed around 6 or 7am, so 13-14 hours of use and It's usually at about 10% when I plug it in.
I do not run any task killers, stock ROM, unrooted. I charge every night and start every day with 100% charged. This is, by far, the best phone I've ever owned period. It's highly recommended. Hope this helps.
Its reasonable.
If you use Bluetooth (music stream) extensively & connect to a WIFI network, you might be in the yellow fairly quick.
Its NO BlackBerry (battery wise), but then again you get so many options and features that it blows the BB out of the water.
I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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Yes, more people bought it, so there are more devs.
What exactly you want developed for G3?
Kernels? Nah, you can't jump higher than lg did. It's already optimised. You can, of course, add some GCC flags, change toolchain, etc etc etc... For a marginal improvement, at best. Well, you can add undervolting, some modules (ntfs, gamepads, etc), advanced sound control... What else?..
Roms? Well, developing "only for G3!" roms isn't the best idea. Besides, some popular AOSP roms are already ported to g3, ones that haven't been ported don't even have stable 5.0 builds yet. Modding stock rom is almost impossible right now, apktool doesn't fully support neither 5.0, neither lg's special apk's (two apk's with id of 127 sharing resources? LG-way, lol.), so good custom roms aren't even possible yet.
And no, we won't get more support. If you want tons of support - buy Samsung.
I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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i agree with both of the posts here and to really answer the first question, there is nothing that i specifically want developed i just was kinda confused as to why the forums are not filled with roms and kernals but you made a good point about saying quality over quantity.. I do really enjoy this phone and consider it the top of the line right now but we will see......
Honestly we have a fair amount of roms at this stage and it will only get better and better but as far as kernels goes I'd wish to see some more with overclocking/undervolting/profiles features in them ..
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Been offered a straight trade for HTC one M8 might take them up on it
As a person coming from Samsung S2, S3, Note 3, I can say that Lg is doing a great job with the G2/G3 stock software! Way better than Samsung! Yes you'll find fingerprint features and some other useless bells and whistles, but LG software is solid, almost lag free, and battery life is king!
During my lifetime with Samsung, I spent most of my time cheating its software with Cyanogenmod.
So, would I be sad to not have the same amount of support on S5? Definitely no! I think what we have is valuable and I haven't felt yet that I need to run away to CM11/12.
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
I know some have stated they see lag in the UI such as when they open a drawer, or swipe between screens and such. I guess I've never noticed that before, so maybe they come from a different phone that responded better in their eyes. Things that can help are possibly reducing the animation, but a possible issue could be the screen size. This phone packs a lot more pixels in it than the S5, so I could see how rendering on a screen with a larger pixel density could cause this. However, for me, I don't really notice it, and even if it is there, it must not be a huge amount or else I'd notice it.
As for battery life, I don't know what people are expecting. I get at least a days (24 hours) worth. Now, granted I'm running Greenify which has helped me on other phones, so I'm sure that has a hand in it. However, there was a time I wasn't running Greenify at first with this phone and I remember having the phone charged at 100% when I went to bed, took it off the charger, left it on (I used it as an alarm clock plus as my on-call phone) and when I woke up 6+ hours later, it was STILL at 100%. Adding Greenify has helped to prevent apps from wake locking, but that's not the phone's fault. That's how some apps are written and that in and of itself can cause battery drain, but it's even worse if you out-right kill the app/service all the time.
I make and take phone calls (not all day, mind you), I send and receive texts (not every minute). I do play games (Game of War a lot) and that does drain the battery, but that's going to happen on any phone. I've listen to music on my phone, especially when driving to/from work and other errands. One time, I must have logged over 2 hours on Power Amp. I wanted to see how much it drained the battery, so I kept note of where the battery was at when I started listening and where it was when I stopped listening. Over a two hour total period of listening to music, the battery drained 2%. Not bad if you ask me.
I'm just curious because right now, with this phone, I'm getting better battery life than I did with my RAZR MAXX and my RAZR HD phones. This phone I could possibly go two days before charging. After about 36 hours, I'm at 40% battery, so I could probably go another 12 hours, but when I get to 40%, that's when I start charging back up again.
I'm not trying to dispute what people are saying. I'm just curious as to what people are expecting vs. what they are getting (or perceive as getting) from this phone. Again, most of the time, we get generic statements as "battery life sucks" or "it lags". Great. Please back that up with examples because otherwise, it's all in the eye of the beholder as to what great or sucky battery life is and/or what lag is.
Just to show, im currently at 60% after 21 hours of use. That's with phone calls, playing Game of War, texting, etc. I've attached the screenshot as well.
Just comparing to my Note 3, with stock FW but apex launcher.
Battery would last in excess of a day with quite heavy use, games Internet browsing etc. BT always on auto brightness.
Apps would also open instantly or as expected.
The G3 can has a battery life of less than 4hrs with little or no use. Consumes 18-19% in 7hrs overnight.
Finding myself charging the phone at every opportunity.
I know the Note 3 didn't come with qi, but the qi on the G3 is sooo picky. 1mm off and it doesn't charge.
Using stock launcher just pressing home, first the wallpaper loads followed by the icons then the widgets. No what would be called snappy.
And OMG does it get hot!!! For no reason at all. Not playing games, just emails and Web browsing.
So now I am left wondering if the phone is faulty.
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
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I have both "issues".
"poor" is g3's screen-on time on 5.0 while browsing using 4g. 5-5:30 hours on latest firmwares isn't much. It was nearly 7 hours on 4.4.2... I always set brightness to 20% auto, lighting conditions are always same.
I use phone for browsing and listening to locally stored music via Bluetooth. No watching or shooting videos or playing games.
After 5 hours of 4g web browsing i am left with empty battery.
Lag:
I define lag as "animation stuttering". I am seeing it everywhere: Vkontakte, Google Play Store, while opening drawer, switching tasks, etc... It lags often, but not always.
I have 47 user apps installed, 0 additional system apps.
The only apps that keep background services or use alarms are: Aqua mail, LMT, SBH52 smart headset, Titanium backup.
There are 4 apps using GCM for push.
There are 6 accounts (Google, Shazam, Skype, VK, tutu.ru and one money app) at sync section.
And i have got 5.4 gb free out of 25 on intsd. Shouldn't slow down writing much.
A perfect setup, right? But it still lags on official firmware.
I would assume you aren't running anything like Greenify, etc. What it sounds like is there are a lot of wake locks going on. That's where Greenify comes in. I also turn off a lot of syncs as I don't need them. As you can see with my screenshot, 60% is where I was at after 21 hours so thus phone can definitely get good battery life. But, if you do a lot of stuff for hours, no phone can keep it's battery life for long. Also, with the quad hd screen this phone has, that is a big drain, but even then, I'm getting great battery life.
Another thing with going to 5.0, it's best to start fresh. Do a factory data reset and start from scratch. Going from 4.x to 5.0, especially with Lollipop, had a lot of changes underneath the hood. There are others getting better or the same battery life, but i also think it all depends on usage.
I dont know with other guys here.but i am very happy with the lg g3 forums
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I already dumped mine at a huge loss. I would say worst phone ever, but that goes to my first Android, the Moto Backflip. Thank goodness my other phone is a M8.
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
Only thing i'm having problems with is the fact that the ram is always overload. Used titanium to remove and freeze alot of stuff but still the ram usage is about 1.3 to 1.6gb.
This is on stock rom which is very good to me with no lag and everything an launcher needs.
Battery life from the G3 is very good, on my previous phone I was affraid to leave the house if the battery wasn't filled to 100% with the G3 i left yesterday at 62% and returned from work with still 46% (off course with no heavy use) while my data is always on.
Conclusion for me after a month of use, good value for the money.
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Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
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Greenify isn't for lag. It's for battery life.
Again, each to his own. I think it all depends on the perception of the user and what they expect and what they've gotten in the past from other phones.
Form me, this phone blows the RAZR MAXX and RAZR HD out of the water, which is what I came from and I get great battery life (well over 36 hours) before I have to recharge. And even then, at 40%, I probably could go another 12 hours but I choose not to.
Just last night, before I went to bed, the phone was at 100%. When I woke up 6 hours later, it went down only 2%, so I had 98% battery left. I've since used it to check email, read the news, played about 45 minutes of Game of War and did some updates via Google Play and I'm at 90%. That's after 9 hours since I last charged. I'd say those are pretty darn good stats for me.
Again, mileage may vary from user to user and what they expect. And from the responses I'm seeing, that's what I'm gathering. Some are saying the phone is great, others say it's okay, and others say it's awful coming from another phone. So, that definitely shows that it's all in the eye of the beholder.
But I appreciate what everyone has posted. It does appear that some who didn't like this phone have been able to find a phone that works great for them. I always try to state why a phone works great "for me" because that's what it is. It's not necessarily going to work great for someone else, but I also don't want to steer someone towards this phone if it doesn't meet their needs, so I try to explain why and how it works for me as I'm the user of this phone, and everyone else might use it differently.
Ciao!
I don't get why a lot of people are complaining about lag and support and s*** like that.
You are getting lag probably because:
(A) You don't know how to use your phone.
(B) You picked up the 16GB model (which only has 2GB RAM
(C) You're not rooted (seriously, who doesn't root their phones nowadays)
When I got this phone, I didn't have it rooted for a month. Everything was smooth despite having a lot of apps installed. It only became a lag machine when I installed Facebook and its Messenger app.
Yes there are lags from time to time, but do iPhones not lag? Of course they do, all phones do. I don't see all you guys' point.
A good phone doesn't need any sort of custom ROM and kernel, etc etc. Mine has always been on Stock ROM and Kernel, minimal lag. iPhone-like smoothness, I must say (but plus good multitasking. iOS multitasking is s***) In fact, when I upgraded to Android 5.0, it got even better.
I have stayed stock most of the time but I always have Greenify installed, (but battery life was still great before rooting and installing Greenify)
You people are just picky.
Not sure why people are seeing 18%+ drop in battery overnight in standby mode. Must either have a lot of synching going on or a misbehaving app or two.
Me, when I'm at home, WiFi is turned on. I have minimal syncing (apps, calendar, google+, photos).
Here is a screenshot I took this morning. When I first woke up, I was down to 98% overnight (was at 100% when I went to bed at midnight and when I woke at 6:30 am, it dropped only 2%).
At the time I took this screenshot, I had already read the news, did some updates, checked emails, and played about 30 minutes of Game of War and I was down to 94%. That seems like good battery life to me.
Of course, if you really want to improve the battery life of this phone, maybe you can go to Amazon and get this upgrade for the G3:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...id=1411938311&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
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