Develop Bugs

AT&T screen protector corner radius is off

A bit of caution when picking out screen protectors
I had to cut the edges on my AT&T screen protectors due to the nature of the soft back which when pressure is applied to the front causes lifting on the screen protector's 4 corners. The dimensions are fine but the radius is too small for the corners causing them to protrude ... just cut them a little but I would have preferred to have 100% perfect screen protectors instead of half assed ones from AT&T ... why am I not surprised.

sentinel79 said:
A bit of caution when picking out screen protectors
I had to cut the edges on my AT&T screen protectors due to the nature of the soft back which when pressure is applied to the front causes lifting on the screen protector's 4 corners. The dimensions are fine but the radius is too small for the corners causing them to protrude ... just cut them a little but I would have preferred to have 100% perfect screen protectors instead of half assed ones from AT&T ... why am I not surprised.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I purchased the same protector. I have the same issue as well. Makes it look really cheap with the corners sticking up.

I had that, plus since I am opening mine a LOT for hacking, the bottom looks like crap.
Looks like I am going to replace the protector within a week of getting the phone.

Just wrap the whole phone in plastic wrap with the back off. Then slip it on.
Bad idea most likely, but it would be funny if it worked well.

same issue. Trimmed the corners. It doesn't look that great, but doesn't peel up when i hit the corner on something. I'm on the third protector already. First one i screwed up the orientation and got dust under it when fixing. second peeled up when i hit one of the corners.

must be those poor quality screen protector. there us not much of an option atm. i would rather get a HTC HD mini screen protector and punch a hole on it.

I just had Ghost Armor put on my iPhone 3G (which I'm handing to my daughter when my Aria comes in). It's pretty nice, but the Aria isn't showing up on their website yet. And you would only really want to get the screen done, since you open up the phone to get to the battery and the SD Card.

Yep, I cut them carefully and used the scotch tape method to get perfect placement.
-------------------------------------
Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App

sentinel79 said:
Yep, I cut them carefully and used the scotch tape method to get perfect placement.
-------------------------------------
Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you elaborate on the "scotch tape method"?

I ordered invisible gadget guard from amazon. Havent put it on yet, but that packaging sure makes it look impressive.

Before separating the films I placed tape to use as handles to apply the protector flat (instead of holding it).
Then after layed down on the screen pulled up and slid tape underneath to attract any particles which cause bubbles. Slide with sticky side face up so it pulls from the protector's sticky film (rarely do the particles stick to the screen itself).
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

Has anybody noticed the quality of these are not that great?
Have had on for 3 days. There are a LOT of scratches on the protector itself. I usually keep phone in jean pockets with a wallet.
Anybody plan on trying the Amzer ones, although I have heard their quality may be dubious too for the n1.

Shad0wguy said:
I ordered invisible gadget guard from amazon. Havent put it on yet, but that packaging sure makes it look impressive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ordered this, and it shipped today. I got my 8 GB card in the mail today, too. I kind of wished I had gotten a 16 GB card, since my whole music collection is about 8 GB. But I may pick up another 8 GB as my "backup film roll" at a later time.

Donatron said:
I purchased the same protector. I have the same issue as well. Makes it look really cheap with the corners sticking up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't believe I didn't figure out this solution earlier. Obviously, trimming the excess on the corners would solve the issue, but I wasn't comfortable using a razor blade to make the trims. But just 5 minutes ago, it occurred to me to use a nail clipper (while already installed on the phone, and the back plate removed). Worked perfectly, was super easy, and did no damage to the phone.

Yeah that didnt occur to me either. I used small crafting scissors.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

Same thing happened to me, just on the bottom corners though, but as soon as I put my case on it covered up those bubbles, cant even see it. Quality of the protector seems to be decent. I used a universal one prior and it was ****!
I ordered the stealth guard though for the phone (full body protection) just now so when that comes I'll let you guys know how that works out as well.

I used the Invisible Gadget Guard that someone else mentioned (got it off ebay though, not amazon, it's the exact same one however). The quality of it is definitely top notch, I've had it on for a little over a month now and it has no scratches/marks that are visible without actually looking for them and even then there are minimal and very minor ones. My one complaint with it is the top two corners did start to peel a bit, I ended up peeling it up a tad and cutting them (with difficulty, this thing is tough!) and reapplying that part and I haven't had a problem since! I do have a few blemishes down the left side due to my clumsiness during the initial applicaton, but the case covers it for the most part

i tried the invisisheild and did not like the rubbery feel, got at t sheild it is a hard plastic and fingers slide much better, yes i had to trim but no big deal there. all you have to do is put the protector on the phone with back cover off, then take a new sharp razor blade at about 50 degree angle to the edge of glass and trim excess off. 3 months now and have not lifted any corners. these are much better than the rubber vinly covers that tend to stretch and need trimming as well.

Naked case (vinyl and/or rubber battery cover) ??

OK - I've been using the ATT store Body Glove case since I bought the Captivate, which is ok but I don't really like the stripes on the back, and it is a bit too slippery for me.
I just ordered the Seidio case because it has more of a matte finish and I liked the felt interior. So I don't know if I like it or not.
A few minutes ago I took the phone out of it's case to dust it and clean out the case when I got a call. I was surprised at how slim the phone felt without it's Body Glove case on. I liked it. But I also found it a bit slippery. ( A speaker phone call was put on the arm of the chair I was in - with the case it would hold - without it slid away)
Now I am wondering if I should just use some skateboard tape or something similar on key areas to allow me to set it down and hold it comfortably (where it won't slip) instead of using a case. I don't use a screen protector and I don't think this phone needs it.
Any comments or suggestions?

Now that I've thought about it for a few minutes - I think what I want is a rubberized battery cover. That would be the bomb.

I don't use a case on mine and I've yet to get a single scratch on the front or back - the glass is very tough. I cringe at having to use a case, losing accuracy, clarity, and brightness on the screen and having to touch through that...having it hard to slip in and out of my pocket...not looking as nice. It's like if your wife made you use a condom every time.

just "paint" it with some Elmer's Rubber Cement. Im really kidding but I'm with you I like the feel of the phone and I hate the rubber case I got it makes it a pain to get in and out of the pocket. Personally I plan on selling this phone in a couple of months so I want it in good condition.

vsboxerboy1 said:
I don't use a case on mine and I've yet to get a single scratch on the front or back - the glass is very tough. I cringe at having to use a case, losing accuracy, clarity, and brightness on the screen and having to touch through that...having it hard to slip in and out of my pocket...not looking as nice. It's like if your wife made you use a condom every time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed that the screen is fine on its own. But I still think the back needs some help.
Also, I do not like condoms. Neither do my wife and kids.

Ah, well I saw something a while back where someone basically took four little rubber/plastic stickers and put one on each corner of the back of the phone to lift the back up off whatever surface you set it on just a hair. I would imagine that you'd get good traction with that too - I can't seem to find the exact application of it though......

This thread is mostly me think out loud.
I believe that what I want is a rubberized battery cover.
The cover is slightly recessed - it is lower then the bottom locking section and the top section with the camera. It also wraps around the sides almost 1/2 of the way.
I think that if the battery cover were coated with a rubberized, non-slip material, it would be better. If the rubberization made the cover stick out slightly, rather than be recessed, it would allow the phone to be set on it's back and not slide away and keep the camera off the deck. Also, the wrap around side parts of the cover would help when holding the phone.
Now, can someone tell me of a place/process that might do this? (Not rubber cement but close) My pickup has a Rhino Lining coating that I love. There is a place nearby that does that work but the coating is like 1/8-1/4 inches and that is a bit to thick for the phone.
Any Ideas?

http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1150/Product/GUN_KOTE_trade__OVEN_CURE__GUN_FINISH
http://www.goboatingamerica.com/products/DM_article.asp?id=3645
Found these

Bought this stuff at Home Depot.

Then tested in on this beer can. I didn't clean or prep the can, just picked it up off of the floor.
This is 5 coats. It is still thin. Dries fast and feels just about how I'd like it to. Not tacky - sort of a hard rubber feel. It is flexible, the can bends and the stuff stays with it.
It can be scratched, you may be able to see a scratch I made with my nail. It didn't go all the way through to the can though - and I had to scratch hard. It looks like it would be easy to spray another coat over any scuffs.
I plan to do the back of the battery cover - thick enough to make it a bit taller than the top and bottom sections of the phone. The way it is going it seem like that may take 15+ coats. I'll keep testing.

Two things about that though, the battery cover is used not only as the speaker output but the battery cover itself also dissipates a good amount of the heat that the phone generates. You probably want to be a more careful than usual in designing something that is going to smother this part of the phone.

not sure how much you're looking to spend but I put the Zagg total protection on mine. You get full protection on your phone but you can't see it, so you still get the sleek look and it's still very thin as well. The clear plastic is also great for gripping, I can set it on the dash of my car and drive normally and it won't budge.

I've had good luck with bestskinsever.com
Used it on my Nexus One and the fit was good, buddy got one for his vibrant and the fit is good as well.

journeyman82 said:
not sure how much you're looking to spend but I put the Zagg total protection on mine. You get full protection on your phone but you can't see it, so you still get the sleek look and it's still very thin as well. The clear plastic is also great for gripping, I can set it on the dash of my car and drive normally and it won't budge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks interesting. I wish they had the leather skin for the captivate. I would be all over that. In fact I may need to take a trip to the fabric store to see what they have.
Thanks.

Ok to finish up my saga...
I liked the faux leather on the cover mentioned in the post above so I went to the fabric store and ended up with some black, I believe they call it marbled vinyl. It looked and felt similar to the back of a blackberry I once held.
I tested it on my trusty Busch Light can with some 3M spray adhesive and it seemed to hold fairly well.
So I went for it. I taped off the inside and the prongs of the battery cover. Sprayed glue on the cover and the back of a piece of vinyl cut too big. Stuck it on and smoothed it out. I sat the cover on a bag of rice and and put a bag of brown sugar on top (to push around the curves) and topped it off with a gallon jug of tile grout.
Waited an hour, probably longer than needed, and used a pointy x-acto knife to trim off the excess. I had also put a piece of tape over the speaker holes so I cut that back open to. The underside of the vinyl has a white background so once it was trimmed to fit I went around the edges with a fine tipped sharpie, which blended well.
Overall I like it. It is just a bit thinker that the top and bottom bands, so if you lay her on her back those parts don't touch a flat table. It has a leathery, grippy feel without being tacky, which is what I was going for. I do already miss the front edge lip that the Body Golve provided but it is also almost it;s original thickness.
Pics below. (Sorry about the crappy last pic. I had the phone with new back all set up on a white surface, ready for it's glamor shot, when I realized that the phone is my camera)

Staplebox: great job!
Wow that is a nice, careful job.....

staplebox said:
Ok to finish up my saga...
I liked the faux leather on the cover mentioned in the post above so I went to the fabric store and ended up with some black, I believe they call it marbled vinyl. It looked and felt similar to the back of a blackberry I once held.
I tested it on my trusty Busch Light can with some 3M spray adhesive and it seemed to hold fairly well.
So I went for it. I taped off the inside and the prongs of the battery cover. Sprayed glue on the cover and the back of a piece of vinyl cut too big. Stuck it on and smoothed it out. I sat the cover on a bag of rice and and put a bag of brown sugar on top (to push around the curves) and topped it off with a gallon jug of tile grout.
Waited an hour, probably longer than needed, and used a pointy x-acto knife to trim off the excess. I had also put a piece of tape over the speaker holes so I cut that back open to. The underside of the vinyl has a white background so once it was trimmed to fit I went around the edges with a fine tipped sharpie, which blended well.
Overall I like it. It is just a bit thinker that the top and bottom bands, so if you lay her on her back those parts don't touch a flat table. It has a leathery, grippy feel without being tacky, which is what I was going for. I do already miss the front edge lip that the Body Golve provided but it is also almost it;s original thickness.
Pics below. (Sorry about the crappy last pic. I had the phone with new back all set up on a white surface, ready for it's glamor shot, when I realized that the phone is my camera)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
love it, im stealing that!

Go for it. Usually I prefer to buy a second of whatever I am defacing before I deface it but I didn't find any battery covers online. I also didn't look to hard.
It is still on and I still like it. The only thing I don't like too much are the sides. I completely covered the back, right up to the side edges. It is a perfect thickness on the back but feels too thick on the sides. I wish I could have found a thinner material that I could have built up on the back and tapered to one layer on the sides. I really wanted grippyness on the sides so, oh well, it's good enough.
I'm still on the look out for a better spray on rubber. I'll update if I find anything good.
Hopefully someone will start making aftermarket battery covers with some options.
Thanks and good luck,.

Second the stealing. Awesome idea and writeup. Thanks for sharing.
From a phone on an app

I scrapped the vinyl. The edges were just bugging me to much. I still think a thinner material would work well though.
I cleaned up the cover - looked fine again with all the glue off of it.
I went back to the rubber spray. I've got about 8 coats on in the attached pic. Need to wait about 30 min in between coats. I'll keep going until I go to sleep, let it dry overnight - and test it out tomorrow.
ETA - put it on the phone the today. Love it. Doesn't add any bulk and provides a grippyness to the back and sides. I'll find out how durable it is.

Looking for some input with modding d3o & powerskin

Ok everyone this will be my first mod-accessory, for a mobile device and i am looking for some input. I want the best of both of these two cases and am pretty sure that the end result will be some kick arsenic case loved by most people. Check my video out it says all I am trying to do. http://youtu.be/DZOKjY2YMzg

Fix your audio, get prepared, get to the point and try again. Oh and gorilla glue? Couldn't tell what you wanted to use it for, but not a good idea. It expands.

Kerns_JW said:
Fix your audio, get prepared, get to the point and try again. Oh and gorilla glue? Couldn't tell what you wanted to use it for, but not a good idea. It expands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am wanting some input on how to go about using the inner top portion on the power-skin replacing the same area on the powerskin with the d3o portion. I know gorilla glue expands but nothing a razor blade can't fix after it cures.

Too many ideas, can you narrow it down?
Hard plastic kept or not?
Can hard plastic be removed if needed?
Room under the top section for an additional layer? Snug or decent room
Let's talk glue again. Wouldn't something that remains flexible be preferred?

Kerns_JW said:
Too many ideas, can you narrow it down?
Hard plastic kept or not?
Can hard plastic be removed if needed?
Room under the top section for an additional layer? Snug or decent room
Let's talk glue again. Wouldn't something that remains flexible be preferred?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I was thinking about losing the hard white plastic of the d3o and using the inner flexible black part. Right about the glue now that I think about it, will need some flexibility-any ideas on type of adhesive? I am thinking with the addition of the inner layer and losing the back phone coverage it will be comfortable in fit.
Sent from SGS II 4G Jelly Bean 4.1.1

okay
Cut off half of old and put on top of newer one. Issue looks dumb and unfinished. Use some type of cord to clean up the edge. Still may look bad and by removing hard plastic look nasty due to glue remains. Due to shown cracks, it's not likely you can use as hard case on top of new rubber.
Under newer one instead. Issue, it would look and feel off I think because of hump added. Maybe not sure due to hump caused by battery? Could be similar.
Fix cut old one slightly bigger than new hole. Glue edges only. Issue bump created around current lip from New hole.
Fix cut same size as new hole add inner layer such as felt. Glue piece to felt, felt to new inside part. If cut well and placed well, old piece fills void reduces lip. Issue of bad cut, looks bad. Cut slightly larger than hole and slowly trim to fit. Try to get edges to squash well together. Still may have nasty glue remains from removal of hard plastic. Fix may be tough to do and look off. Keep plastic attached, Trim both plastic and rubber to shape of hole and fit in hole. Use felt again as backer.
Eliminate felt use, trim plastic to hole, trim rubber slightly bigger. Glue old rubber to plastic and edges of old rubber to inside of new hole. Essentially, use old rubber as backer instead of felt. May still cause that hump around edge of new hole.
Fill hole with old piece as described above eliminate felt use, plastic if desired, and over size of old rubber. Create complete new back instead to glue piece to. Then glue this new back to the back of new case. This will cover up the old glue remains, bad possible cutting and lip issues. Tricky part, what to use for new back.
What's the inside of old case look like? Could it be used to create new back layer? If not sure where I am going, look at the back of a ballistic case.
Glue depends on decided application. If new back than semi rigid glue would work well. They have super glue that stays flexible. Rubber cement too flexible I think.

What would you suggest be my line of going forward? Cut the lip and buttons off the d3o
Sent from SGS II 4G Jelly Bean 4.1.1

Tough to say without being there and knowing the actual layout. Your video just made it to hard to see. Since the plastic is borked and underneath may be glued, you may want to hit up one of the mall vestibules and see if you can find some knock off cover that works to your needs.

Yeah I will probably grab some cheap cases similar & do some mock ups to get a feel for what it will be like. I'll post some pictures of my progress.
Sent from SGS II 4G Jelly Bean 4.1.1

Is it safe?

So my G3's back cover was creaking when I held it with a tight grip. After some looking, I realized that it was due to a slightly loose fit of the battery.
To correct this, I decided to stick two thin (1 cm wide) pieces of paper on the side of the battery. I basically took the sticky portion of a sticky note and cut off the sticky part and stuck it onto the curved side of the battery.
This effectively stopped the creaking, but now I'm wondering if this practice is safe or not.

4ndroid99 said:
So my G3's back cover was creaking when I held it with a tight grip. After some looking, I realized that it was due to a slightly loose fit of the battery.
To correct this, I decided to stick two thin (1 cm wide) pieces of paper on the side of the battery. I basically took the sticky portion of a sticky note and cut off the sticky part and stuck it onto the curved side of the battery.
This effectively stopped the creaking, but now I'm wondering if this practice is safe or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think that would be a problem, but why the hell is your battery fitting loose?

But why are you squeezing it so hard you make it creak? It's a phone, not a hammer!

meyerweb said:
But why are you squeezing it so hard you make it creak? It's a phone, not a hammer!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't require a hard squeeze. A slight gripping motion or a slight twist can cause creaking sounds that are easily heard.
Still_living714 said:
I don't think that would be a problem, but why the hell is your battery fitting loose?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some batteries just fit looser than the others. It's a selective problem, some ppl experience it and others don't.

4ndroid99 said:
So my G3's back cover was creaking when I held it with a tight grip. After some looking, I realized that it was due to a slightly loose fit of the battery.
To correct this, I decided to stick two thin (1 cm wide) pieces of paper on the side of the battery. I basically took the sticky portion of a sticky note and cut off the sticky part and stuck it onto the curved side of the battery.
This effectively stopped the creaking, but now I'm wondering if this practice is safe or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds fishy. Just get a replacement!

Why not use insulating tape?

I think a replacement battery do the trick.

4ndroid99 said:
It doesn't require a hard squeeze. A slight gripping motion or a slight twist can cause creaking sounds that are easily heard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK. I've never heard mine creak in normal use. I just squeezed it to see what would happen, and had to squeeze FAR harder than I would ever hold my phone to get very slight click. As for twisting a phone, any phone: DON'T DO THAT!

[Q] Raised left and top edges

is it a design feature or a defect? it seems too regular to be a defect. the other two edges are flush

skinnycl said:
is it a design feature or a defect? it seems too regular to be a defect. the other two edges are flush
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine has the left and right edges SLIGHTLY raised. The others are flush. Doesn't bother me really.

skinnycl said:
is it a design feature or a defect? it seems too regular to be a defect. the other two edges are flush
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
on mine the right and front side is perfect, the left sticks up quite a bit, and the back a little. I've scraped it against things a few times now and gotten drywall stuck in the lip. its very annoying. Thought of actually taking a razor blade to it!

vladthedog said:
on mine the right and front side is perfect, the left sticks up quite a bit, and the back a little. I've scraped it against things a few times now and gotten drywall stuck in the lip. its very annoying. Thought of actually taking a razor blade to it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got some paint from a wall stuck in the left lip, but was able to clean it with a fingernail after removing it from the band.