Alright, I may have a brick on my hands but after playing with Android for two years I've found that's pretty tough to actually do so I'm still hopeful. Using Clockwork recovery, I did a factory reset and flashed the cm vision full 5 nightly build onto my G2/Vision. It gave me a boot loop so I went into hboot and tried to flash the PC10IMG. I'm getting a "Main version is older! Update fail!" message and have no idea what to do. Somehow I'm back to S-ON so I can't even try to flash a different update. If anyone has any ideas I will try anything. I love my phone and would hate to lose it three days after root happened.
I hate to be the one to say this, but didn't the thread say not to not to try it yet?
ruleftbehind said:
I hate to be the one to say this, but didn't the thread say not to not to try it yet?
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If you hate to say it and it doesn't help then why say it? And no it does not say that anywhere in the thread. Others have tried and had success.
You didn't make a nandroid backup?
No offense, but you said you've been playing with Android for 2 years. You should've known that the first rule is to backup what you already have!
Have you tried installing the stock ROM pre OTA in the "Downgrading ROM" thread?
tazz9690 said:
You didn't make a nandroid backup?
No offense, but you said you've been playing with Android for 2 years. You should've known that the first rule is to backup what you already have!
Have you tried installing the stock ROM pre OTA in the "Downgrading ROM" thread?
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I'm attempting it but adb won't copy my misc.img to my SD card, nor will it detect the miscnew.img I've made from someone else's misc.img.
Edit: Oh, and I WAS using the first release of the Clockwork mod for the G2 and I did not see a nandroid option there or I would have made a backup. I guess I shouldn't have tried it without a backup. Is there any way to use nandroid to flash someone else's backup?
What you need to do is mount your phone to your PC using Clockwork Recovery and copy over the misc files that way.
I had to downgrade to the stock rom myself and I used the misc files located in the below file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=437017&d=1289270330
Jigga0o7 said:
What you need to do is mount your phone to your PC using Clockwork Recovery and copy over the misc files that way.
I had to downgrade to the stock rom myself and I used the misc files located in the below file.
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I already downloaded those files, and copied miscnew onto my sd. But when I try the
"dd if=/sdcard/miscnew.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17" command it says the file does not exist. It doesn't work with the card mounted or unmounted.
If you can get into clockwork you should be OK. i think your mistake was doing a full factory reset rather than install CM and then wiping data and cache. go into clockwork and wipe everything.
Find the official pre-ota zip, go into hboot, and flash. if this fails, go into clockwork, wipe everything, then go into fastboot, flash the original recovery, then go into hboot and flash the pre-ota zip.
Otherwise, find the thread when people had problems flashing the OTA after removing goggles and use that method to reflash the pre-ota.
My evo got pretty ****ed over the past day, originally I rooted it by installing the hboot drivers then using unrevoked,I assumed everything would be done from there, I never got to flash Amon ra or any custom roms so I wanted to try it out, every guide I found involved using adb shell and a Tom of other steps I never used while originally rooting.
I got so fed up with all the error messages that I decided to start from the absolute beginning and root again and then try unlocking nand, one method involved me putting all these files on the sdcard and using adb a lot, I followed all if these steps exactly and DEFINITELY DID A NAND BACKUP but then after rebooting in one step my phone went back to eclair 2.1 and all my info was deleted and now its as if I bought it today, its not even rooted anymore so all the apps I backed up with titanium I can't even access anymore since it requires root
One step told me to do the nand restore and when I went the folder was empty, I would kill to have my old evo back or at least all my apps, any and all help would be HIGHLY appreciated
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If youre back on 2.1, just root it, put whatever recovery you used to make your nandroid on there and then restore your nandroid.
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I assumed onceI was on 2.1 I would be rooted again, I tried unrevoked once it was on 2.1 but it just stayed saying "running root" and never changed, and my nandroid restore didn't show up before so why would it now
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The root method you used was older, and was the way to go before Froyo was officially rooted. It involved downgrading (which you did) and then rooting 2.1 and then flashing a froyo ROM. It sounds like you made it to the downgrade part and then you stopped for whatever reason. You aren't in bad shape, you just need to get that 2.1 rooted and you're good to go.
As far as the nandroid is concerned, if you made it, then it should be there. You said you never got to flash a custom recovery but you must've if you were able to do a nandroid. Now if you made your nandroid with clockwork you won't be able to restore it with Amon and vice versa, which is where I think the confusion lies. Do you remember what recovery you made the nandroid with?
Your only real option at this point is to root your 2.1 and restore your nandroid with the correct recovery. Check your SD card, if there is a folder called Nandroid then it was made with Amon, and I'm pretty sure clockwork puts it's nandroid into a folder called Clockwork.
As far as why the root wasn't finishing, I'm not really sure because it's been a while since I used that method. It could be a driver issue. Have you installed the proper drivers?
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The root method you used was older, and was the way to go before Froyo was officially rooted. It involved downgrading (which you did) and then rooting 2.1 and then flashing a froyo ROM. It sounds like you made it to the downgrade part and then you stopped for whatever reason. You aren't in bad shape, you just need to get that 2.1 rooted and you're good to go.
As far as the nandroid is concerned, if you made it, then it should be there. You said you never got to flash a custom recovery but you must've if you were able to do a nandroid. Now if you made your nandroid with clockwork you won't be able to restore it with Amon and vice versa, which is where I think the confusion lies. Do you remember what recovery you made the nandroid with?
Your only real option at this point is to root your 2.1 and restore your nandroid with the correct recovery. Check your SD card, if there is a folder called Nandroid then it was made with Amon, and I'm pretty sure clockwork puts it's nandroid into a folder called Clockwork.
As far as why the root wasn't finishing, I'm not really sure because it's been a while since I used that method. It could be a driver issue. Have you installed the proper drivers?
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yae the recovery is where the whole issue began, i assumed i was good so i tried flashing amon RA with the terminal emulator and whenever i typed 'su' it always said permission denied, i was rooted for sure so some people said i had to probably unlock NAND and more errors came from there so i tried that other rooting method so i definitely flashed with clockwork and i remember seeing the build name on the bottom as well which makes me pretty happy as well since i found it in the directory which you said under my sdcard with the date name and whatnot so major kudos for that
i installed the hboot drivers before so i assumed i didnt need to do it again but when unrevoked kept staying at "running root" i tried installing again, and on this video online from djr3z he said under 'My Devices' that Android 1.0 would show up where I could click to install it but it never showed up so I've been stuck since that point, are there any other alternative root methods you recommend/should i try updating the drivers? or perhaps i can delete the driver and reinstall?
Check your hboot, are you S-ON or S-OFF? Also, what hboot version are you?
im definitely S-OFF, saw it all the time in the bootloader screen, how do i check the hboot version exactly?
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im definitely S-OFF, saw it all the time in the bootloader screen, how do i check the hboot version exactly?
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you load it up with volume down and power button, same way you go as if your going to boot into recovery
ok and my hboot version is .76.2000
can anyone confirm if .76.2000 is the latest hboot driver? everytime i connect my phone and check device manager it shows android bootloader interface which, from what i heard, is what im supposed to see
everytime i run unrevoked it stays at "running root..." and doesnt change from there
The latest hboot is 2.02 I believe but you don't want that one, I hear it's a pain to root. Yours is the engineering hboot which must have gotten put on there from whatever rooting method you were using. It's fine to leave that one on there, it will allow you to flash CM6 if you ever decide to. What happens when you select recovery from the hboot menu?
Have you tried downloading ROM manager from the market and using it to flash clockwork? I would give that a whirl.
when i select recovery from bootloader it gives me the black screen with the phone and red triangle, i started button mashing and it seemed like a recovery image but it said 'Android system recovery <2e>' with a few commands like wipe/reboot etc.
i was trying the clockwork before, i installed rom manager, then tried "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" but it kept giving me error messages about attempting to run privilleged commands, assuming that means im not rooted again
i dont even think i have the clockwork recovery image on my sd card, it does however show my amon RA one, but there's no point in flashing that if the clockwork has my nandroid backup right? and couldn't i just put the clockwork recovery image on my sdcard from online somewhere?
Try this- Download THIS FILE, put it on the root of your SD card, and boot into hboot. It will automatically find it, load it and ask you if you want to run it. Choose yes and let it go. It *should* install clockwork recovery on your phone. If it doesn't work, no harm no foul and we can try something else. If it does work, you should be able to restore that nandroid that you made. It will only work if you are S-OFF, which you say you are so it's worth a shot.
okay and if it works, before i do the restore should i wipe everything?
It won't hurt but when doing a nandroid restore wiping is not necessary.
so close...your method worked, but i couldnt restore it gave me an error messgae..
ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1
Checking MD5 sums...
Erasing boot before restore...
Restoring boot image...
Error whille flashing boot image!
takes me back to the main menu of the recovery =\
do you think it has to do with me still being on 2.1 rather than 2.2?
So you now have clockwork on there? That's a step in the right direction! Try restoring your nandroid once more and if that doesn't work, you can flash a ROM and then restore your titanium backups.
It shouldn't matter what ROM you're on when restoring a nandroid. Do you remember what hboot version you were on when you made the nandroid? If I remember correctly that could cause an issue but I'm not entirely sure about that.
hmm i cant even get out of the bootloader screen now though..even when i reboot it takes me straight to bootloader
and also if i flash a rom will have to be designed for 2.1 since im still technically on that?
no idea about the hboot version =\ just assumed it was upgraded to the most advanced version when i updated the driver
but i cant even put any ROMs on my sdcard now because i cant even leave the bootloader screen?
No, flashing a 2.2 ROM will upgrade you from 2.1, it should work fine. You must have made your nandroid on a different hboot version then the one you have now.
What I would do in this situation is run the 3.29 RUU found HERE which will bring you back to full stock, and then you can run Unrevoked and reroot it. The whole process should only take you a half hour or so. I don't know if you will be able to restore your nandroid because of the hboot discrepancy, but at the very least you will be able to restore your titanium backups.
Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I'm a little confused. I'm aware of all the S-OFF, permarooting etc and the necessary ways to get them. Before I go through with these guides however, I'd like a backup of some sort.
I know ClockworkMod is a custom recovery and you can perform nandroid backups with it, but I also understand there is a default recovery mode you can access from the bootloader that can also do that. Obviously I'd like to make a full nandroid backup before I make any permanent changes.
However, when I select 'Recovery' from the bootloader, my phone goes to a black screen with a generic phone icon and a red ! in a triangle. Why could this be? It is a standard UK T-Mobile Desire Z with no modifications aside from a Gfree S-OFF that was reversed again by copying the backup partition back.
That is the splashscreen of the stock recovery. Press Vol-Up and Power to get past that screen - but you won't be able to do a nandroid unless you have a custom recovery installed - sorry!
Thanks very much for that info. So there's no way of making a nandroid backup before I do things like permarooting? Will the unroot option in Visionary reverse that?
Presumably there's a way of reverting from ClockworkMod to the stock recovery?
the only time you will be able to make a backup is when you install clockwork. No clockwork no backup.
Use titanium backup for the settings and apps and then install clockwork and then do nandroid. if that doesnt work you have your TB to restore.
You can also try to "adb pull /system" and pull everything to your desktop.,... but pushging it back will require skillz.
If you want to revert from clockwork to stock recovery you need to flash stock recovery but do not do it with an incompatible rom.
Thank you, oh wise one!
Don't worry about the fact you can't do a nandroid backup before you root the phone, because it's easy enough to un-root.
You can do the nandroid backup as soon as you've got root/S-OFF, installed ROM Manager and flashed Clockwork recovery. It's very important to do this before you flash any sort of custom ROM. I am amazed by the number of people who seem to flash a custom ROM straight away with no backup whatsoever !
Hey, this may seem like a silly question but i would rather ask it than brick my device.
I have rooted and s-off my stock rom, i have installed all my apps and settings and ive got it just the way i like it. i have created a nandroid backup using clockwork mod.
I now want to try Gingervillian rom, ive got titanium backup to install all the apps back and that but what i want to know is:
Will i be able to restore my stock rom from the nandroid backup with all my apps and setting in tact, even though s-off is set and its rooted. i know a read somewhere that flashing a stock rom on a phone with s-off can semi-brick it... so will clockwork recovery do the same?
When you make a 'nandroid' backup via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, it makes essentially a carbon copy of the current setup of your ROM (not your radio, S-Off status, etc.). Literally everything is perfectly as you have it now. It just like doing a full HDD backup of your computer.
When you restore this backup, it simply brings back your ROM from exactly how it was. There is no effect on your root or S-off, or your radio.
So, if you do a nandroid backup, then wipe the device and flash another ROM i.e. Gingervillain, and make a nandroid of that, you can then freely switch back and forth between the 2 (or more) recoveries via ROM manager/CWM Recovery, with no issues.
The issues with bricking as you're referring to are if you for some reason try to somehow flash a non-rooted ROM, which would most definitely cause issues. In order to get back your phone to stock-stock-stock-stock (unroot and S-on), you will need to follow unroot instructions and flash an official unrooted RUU/PC10IMG.zip to get back to everything as it came out of the box.
Hope this helps, let me know if I need to clarify.
thank you very much matey much appreciated!!
Hey guys, so I'm a noob and need a little bit of help. I just downloaded this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219407
Now, what do I do with it? Also, will I lose all of my data by flashing this onto my phone? (ie: my texts and my homescreens, etc?)
Thanks!
are you rooted? if not...
http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/updated-root-the-htc-droid-incredible/
once you have clockwork recovery and all that, boot into recovery, 'flash rom from sd card' (after putting the zip file on ur sd) and ur good.
If you dont want to lose everything, after root, download titanium backup and run that. you will be able to apply most of your stuff back on once you flash a new rom.
howbout some thnx -.-'
I'll give you some thanks for that succinct explanation of steps to take.
I'm ready to root with unrevoked - guessing I should use the "flash and recover" version instead of their "forever" one?
I installed Titanium backup, which I'll use after rooting to backup pretty much everything that it can grab.
Then, I'll use the SD card-based install that you mentioned.
I've read that I should do a full wipe before installing the OTA ROMs being offered - is another tool needed for that, please?
- ooofest
You've got it. The newest version of Unrevoked has made the "forever" one obsolete.
You will be able to perform all the wipes required from within Clockwork Recovery.
Also, make a clockwork backup (nandroid) as soon as you have root, so if you run into any problems flashing roms you have something to restore.