Hi beloved Defy users (you may decide yourself, who is beloved )
I just asked myself if it is a bad idea to use two different batteries, e.g. always or often drain one battery and then use the other (for me this is not an odd situation, if you think about camping or long trips with GPS).
So, the question is, what about those somehow built-in battery-calibration-algorithms of the Defy, or in general of such devices? Will they get a blow on their head when one batterie (the 5$ one from ebay, you know, those explosives) is behaving totaly different from the other (stock) one?
Is there a possibility to manage different batteries without getting wrong percentage-estimations? Or am I overestimating the whole situation?
Have a nice weekend
Johannes
wipe battery stats in recovery, menu advanced.
And this forum is for development, you should post this in general.
Oops, sorry, I intended to. I hope some mod will move it
Wiping the battery stats with each change isn't gonna be usefull, as changing the battery after each cycle would mean having no stats at all.
Sorry to revive this old thread mates, I should post a new thread but I think it is better to stick on this and just ask the same plain noob question for the experts to answer..
And since there's no concrete answer yet to this situation I think I still need to ask again if there will be an issue if I will be using two batteries at the same time due to somewhat long journeys or long time playing of music while on the road so I really need some extra battery just in case my stock batt. will got drain which 100 percent I know will..
Well I hope someone got some input about this..
How about a 2in1 battery?
And by 2in1 battery i mean a big, massive battery that you could buy along with a new back cover for it. I have seen in some videos that smartphone users often prefer to use a big bulky battery that offers more energy than to use 2 batteries. I would do so myself.
well I am on ICS right now, perhaps the battery bug won't occur on this ROM so perhaps changing from another batt from time to time won't confuse the system.
paul.d051990 said:
[...] smartphone users often prefer to use a big bulky battery that offers more energy than to use 2 batteries. I would do so myself.
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silly. as soon as you get one of the huge batteries, you will want to use the stock one as a back up, and back to the original question
So, do i still have to worry about reset battery stats after the phone die with the big battery inside and i start it up again with the wimpy stock one?
And is there any issue with using the phone turned OFF to charge one battery after the other?
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I noticed my phone only holds a charge for about 3 days... (I dont use it much but it is on during school which is 6 hours.) I was talking on the phone yesterday for only about an hour or two and it died... A few questions:
Is this normal wear and tear on the battery?
I am charging it with a razr charger, is that harming the battery life?
Should I replace it, if so what's a good worth the price replacement? (I am not looking to spend too much...)
Or can I save the battery by doing something to it? I've heard letting it die and putting it in a freezer somehow makes it last longer... (haven't tried it though) or running lowlight or something?
thanks
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That's awesome compared to what I was getting!!!
I would be lucky to get a day with my phone clocked to stock, and minimal text/talk. The only thing that would make a difference is my e-mail would be checked every 5 minutes.
If it's the standard battery that came with the phone it's probably expiring.
This guy explains it well
Charging it with the wrong charger can only hurt it.
Not sure about salvaging the battery, I have heard it works, but just be prepared to buy a new one just in case it doesn't.
Here is a thread I made which turned into a pretty good battery discussion thread.
good luck!
thunderwolf333 said:
I noticed my phone only holds a charge for about 3 days... (I dont use it much but it is on during school which is 6 hours.) I was talking on the phone yesterday for only about an hour or two and it died... A few questions:
Is this normal wear and tear on the battery?
I am charging it with a razr charger, is that harming the battery life?
Should I replace it, if so what's a good worth the price replacement? (I am not looking to spend too much...)
Or can I save the battery by doing something to it? I've heard letting it die and putting it in a freezer somehow makes it last longer... (haven't tried it though) or running lowlight or something?
thanks
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SEARCH BEFORE YOU MAKE A THREAD. We have a replacement battery thread already.
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SEARCH BEFORE YOU MAKE A THREAD. We have a replacement battery thread already.
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2nd that!!!
OP: 3 days be happy you have a SP..............
roloracer said:
SEARCH BEFORE YOU MAKE A THREAD. We have a replacement battery thread already.
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Yes, I do realize there are numerous threads on this subject already, however, I had a specific question pertaining to charging my phone with a RAZR charger.
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Yes, I do realize there are numerous threads on this subject already, however, I had a specific question pertaining to charging my phone with a RAZR charger.
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Then that should've been the name of the thread, and we probably have a thread with that topic also . I've heard that using the wrong charger on a phone, even though is the same plug, might not be set for the same charging current, and ruin your battery.
Thanks guys for the help. I think I'm just going to deal with my 3 day battery seeing as how most people have much worse batteries. If it becomes worse to where it won't run I'll replace it...
Couldn't find it through searching so if someone could answer this for me, it'd be great.
I'm considering purchasing an Incredible, but am definitely thinking of going with the 1750 or 2150 extended battery. Do these calibrate correctly with the phone's battery meter? The ones on the Droid 1 do not, Droid 1 users have to reboot to see their actual usage. If it would contribute to a more accurate answer, I will most likely be running custom roms with 1% indications. Thanks
Yes, best I can tell. I have the Seidio 1750 and I have to say, if you don't mind your phone being a little thicker I'd go with the HTC 2150. I still barely make it through a full day with moderate use.
Yes they read correctly, just bought the 2150 yesterday. Thought it was defective due to it taking 8+hrs to charge from 56%, but it was my usb cable. Sad thing is the phone is only 1wk old. Got it on a two year contract, not a CPO either. They do provide a better experience versus stock. Got 12+hrs of heavy usage, without bump charging.
Thanks for the replies. Yeah I was considering the 2150, but I don't like added bulk (kind of the reason why I want to switch from a Droid to an Inc). I like what this guy did, but have no experience whatsoever in dremeling http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703332
I bought an 1800 battery off eBay and it fits tthe normal back so no bulk
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Thanks for your opinion. One more question (I hope this isn't a stupid one) do I need to look for special roms for the SLCD incredible? Or can I use any ROM?
titans808 said:
Couldn't find it through searching so if someone could answer this for me, it'd be great.
I'm considering purchasing an Incredible, but am definitely thinking of going with the 1750 or 2150 extended battery. Do these calibrate correctly with the phone's battery meter? The ones on the Droid 1 do not, Droid 1 users have to reboot to see their actual usage. If it would contribute to a more accurate answer, I will most likely be running custom roms with 1% indications. Thanks
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I have the 3700Mah battery and I end the day with 30% lol.
The added bulk is all good because with the new back it's a perfect square.
Hello all, Like everyone these little Aria's are nice devices..
I however seem to have mine plugged to something all the time...
My ARIA, is rooted and running froyo 2.2, still the battery life is awful, even wit the average apps turned off.
1. are there extended battery's available for the ARIA?
2. are my only options buying several battery's and swapping?
3> does anyone have any advice that may help my ARIA, stay away from the dreaded WIRE for charging??
any help would be awesome..........tattooer
let the battery run all the way before you charge it
If you are having battery issues, I'd root it. Once you root, you can wipe battery stats, flash CM (amazing battery life), etc.
tribestros said:
If you are having battery issues, I'd root it. Once you root, you can wipe battery stats, flash CM (amazing battery life), etc.
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tattooer601 said:
Hello all, Like everyone these little Aria's are nice devices..
I however seem to have mine plugged to something all the time...
My ARIA, is rooted and running froyo 2.2, still the battery life is awful, even wit the average apps turned off.
1. are there extended battery's available for the ARIA?
2. are my only options buying several battery's and swapping?
3> does anyone have any advice that may help my ARIA, stay away from the dreaded WIRE for charging??
any help would be awesome..........tattooer
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I think they have portable chargers...
I saw one at best buy, where you charge it (basically an external battery) and you can plug your phone into it when you need a charge for the phone.
Energizer Energi to go is also another option...
As for me, to get the best battery life I turn off 3g, since I'm mostly around wifi anyway.
My phone is running froyo 2.2 from a file.on my see card, I rooted my phone Rondo this. Is cm6. Betterr. Than froyo for battery life?
So there are no battery replacements that give more battery Life??I have searched. The web over and over.thanks for the help. Between cm6 and froyo which has the best battery. Life?
instead of thinking, 'i need to replace the battery because it doesn't last long enough', try thinking 'what can i do to help my phones battery last a bit longer'.
firstly, read this tutorial.
in regards to task killers, i suggest reading this, and this and this.
lastly, i would recommend installing juicedefender and watchdog.
also if you're willing since its still experimental I have been using build #12 of CM7 nightlies and my batteries last much longer then when I had 2.2. I play games check articles blah blah and get about 40% life left when I go to bed around 14 hours of usage time.
2400mAh EXTENDED BATTERY FOUND!!!
tattooer601 said:
1. are there extended battery's available for the ARIA?
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I just came across this and I couldn't believe my eyes! Has anyone else seen this extended battery for the Aria (with back cover!) to see if it is legitimate or not?
I am VERY interested as I'm sure many of you are!
www thepocketsolution com /PSI-63421/HTC+Aria+Extended+Battery html
Sorry but I don't think i can post links yet...
this doesn't look like an Aria in the photo.
tattooer601 said:
Hello all, Like everyone these little Aria's are nice devices..
I however seem to have mine plugged to something all the time...
My ARIA, is rooted and running froyo 2.2, still the battery life is awful, even wit the average apps turned off.
1. are there extended battery's available for the ARIA?
2. are my only options buying several battery's and swapping?
3> does anyone have any advice that may help my ARIA, stay away from the dreaded WIRE for charging??
any help would be awesome..........tattooer
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Any update on these "extended" batteries. Would be interested if someone can report good results.
Hi guys! I've never had serius problems with the battery of my Gratia (the European version of the Aria), but i have to recharge it every 2 days (or every day if I use it much more than the ordinary) and it's a bit annoying... I saw a powerful battery (2430 mah) in ebay, so if you are desperate you can try it
i can't give you the link because it's my first post
if you are intersted just write htc gratia battery on the search bar of the website.
PS: i'm sorry for my english be patient !
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Hi guys! I've never had serius problems with the battery of my Gratia (the European version of the Aria), but i have to recharge it every 2 days (or every day if I use it much more than the ordinary) and it's a bit annoying... I saw a powerful battery (2430 mah) in ebay, so if you are desperate you can try it
i can't give you the link because it's my first post
if you are intersted just write htc gratia battery on the search bar of the website.
PS: i'm sorry for my english be patient !
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You are talking about "GOLD 2430MAH BA S430 BUSINESS BATTERY FOR HTC GRATIA"
The price and capacity sounds too good to be true. Curious if anyone tried these out.
I thought the same thing... i don't need to try it, but i'm a bit curious to know if it really works.
There is no way to pack 2430mah in a small form factor like that.
It should be over twice the thickness of a standard aria battery.
To get any extra milliamps, you would have to thicken or lengthen the battery.
Stock is it until they come out with something newer than lithium.
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There is no way to pack 2430mah in a small form factor like that.
It should be over twice the thickness of a standard aria battery.
To get any extra milliamps, you would have to thicken or lengthen the battery.
Stock is it until they come out with something newer than lithium.
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Agreed! Did not believe it either.
You should root it and download htc aria supercharger and use it its in the htc aria development section.
sorry no links cause i cant post them yet
It´s very good
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You should root it and download htc aria supercharger and use it its in the htc aria development section.
sorry no links cause i cant post them yet
It´s very good
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couldn't agree more with this. v6 supercharger is the way!
I don't understand: supercharger seems to be responsible to faster phone, does it also helps battery life?
Hey guys,
I just got my phone two days ago, but currently my Galaxy S2 just barely makes up 1 day with moderate use. (so no gaming, watching youtube or GPS)
I've been searching for an extended battery to prolong the current use of my phone on one charge, and I found these two options.
Has anyone tried one of these battery's:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replac...y-cover-set-for-samsung-i9100-galaxy-s2-91182
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replac...h-back-case-for-samsung-i9100-galaxy-s2-67304
I know someone who purchases stuff from this website regularly so I'm not questioning the safety of the website, only the quality of the battery. And I know its makes the phone thinker, but that's fine for me.
Btw, I've read also the alternative solutions about putting a ROM on the phone, but I'm not good at that so I'd rather get an extended battery.
Though, I'm not sure how safe non-orginal batteries are from Asia.
Anyone have any experience with that? And is there a risk for the phone, or is the only risk that the battery will just suck?
I've previously read these threads about extended batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273125
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305716
Any relevant threads that I missed, in order to make a good judgement?
Thanks for your advice!
figorro said:
Hey guys,
I just got my phone two days ago, but currently my Galaxy S2 just barely makes up 1 day with moderate use. (so no gaming, watching youtube or GPS)
I've been searching for an extended battery to prolong the current use of my phone on one charge, and I found these two options.
Has anyone tried one of these battery's:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replac...y-cover-set-for-samsung-i9100-galaxy-s2-91182
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replac...h-back-case-for-samsung-i9100-galaxy-s2-67304
I know someone who purchases stuff from this website regularly so I'm not questioning the safety of the website, only the quality of the battery. And I know its makes the phone thinker, but that's fine for me.
Btw, I've read also the alternative solutions about putting a ROM on the phone, but I'm not good at that so I'd rather get an extended battery.
Though, I'm not sure how safe non-orginal batteries are from Asia.
Anyone have any experience with that? And is there a risk for the phone, or is the only risk that the battery will just suck?
I've previously read these threads about extended batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297083
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273125
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305716
Any relevant threads that I missed, in order to make a good judgement?
Thanks for your advice!
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The only non official battery I would get is Mugen. Or the samsung one.
The Anker ones get 'ok' reviews but there is hardly any proof your better off than stock (although You do get two of them... so that is going to be double the running time).
Have you not tried checking your settings, making sure you dont have any known terrible battery life apps etc etc etc?
When I first got my SGS2 I could run for 24hours straight easily on Wifi most of the time and loads of texts.
I now have around 65% left before bed so no idea what battery life would be like now. but I know you said you dont want to change roms/underclock etc...
I plan on getting the Samsung 2000mAh one when i get bored though.
I was gonna say the same thing- Mugen Power or official ones. Batteries are one thing you do NOT want to bootleg for a plethora of reasons.
Mugan and Seidio batteries are just as bad as the no name brands. They are like Monster Cable, in otherwords ALL BS marketing! www.batteryboss.org has tests. OEM batteries are the best if they make a extended battery or any cheap thing on the net will do, Since they are so cheap you can get double or triple the number of batteries for what you pay for one brand name one
I heard one saying" the man who uses smartphone is a good man, because he must go home and charge the mobile phone every night"
i bought several batteries from here.
http://www.papadigitals.com/battery...nded-battery-for-samsung-galaxy-s2-i9100.html
although a small seller, not like dealextreme.com. Just For This Reason
i got the best service .
Thank you for your response Coedy, Skv012a, Ickyboo.
Coedy said:
The only non official battery I would get is Mugen. Or the samsung one.
The Anker ones get 'ok' reviews but there is hardly any proof your better off than stock (although You do get two of them... so that is going to be double the running time).
Have you not tried checking your settings, making sure you dont have any known terrible battery life apps etc etc etc?
When I first got my SGS2 I could run for 24hours straight easily on Wifi most of the time and loads of texts.
I now have around 65% left before bed so no idea what battery life would be like now. but I know you said you dont want to change roms/underclock etc...
I plan on getting the Samsung 2000mAh one when i get bored though.
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Alright, so what settings in particular would you check? I have GPS always turned off, except when I really use the navigation. Screen brightness lowest. Overall I just have the basic apps Office apps, Dropbox, Skype etc. I know there are several apps to "tweak" the phone, but I haven't had time to dig into the whole thing. What ROM do you use, and what tweaking apps? CynoginMod or something? Any quick short tips?
Moreover, I like the functionalities of the basic ROM, and don't know how to put on any different ROM yet, including what the advantages/disadvantages will be.
Though, I love the phone as it is at the moment. Just the battery life is not that great.
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I was gonna say the same thing- Mugen Power or official ones. Batteries are one thing you do NOT want to bootleg for a plethora of reasons.
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ickyboo said:
Mugan and Seidio batteries are just as bad as the no name brands. They are like Monster Cable, in otherwords ALL BS marketing! batteryboss has tests. OEM batteries are the best if they make a extended battery or any cheap thing on the net will do, Since they are so cheap you can get double or triple the number of batteries for what you pay for one brand name one
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I checked the website batteryboss, but it only seems to show tests of old phone models. But is there a certain risk with "bad-quality" batteries, or is the only risk the costs of buying them?
Luis2012 said:
I heard one saying" the man who uses smartphone is a good man, because he must go home and charge the mobile phone every night"
i bought several batteries from here.
papadigitals
although a small seller, not like dealextreme. Just For This Reason
i got the best service .
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Nice try Luis2012. I'm not surprised you say you got the best service, as it seems you are either the owner or the promoter of that website.
Or is it a coincidence that virtually every single post out of all 19 posts, you recommend a product from that wesbite?
Moreover, I assume both websites "papadigitals, and "digglove", are yours, since they have identical layout and you both promote them as being a satisfied "customer" in virtually every post of yours.
I purchased a really cheap extended battery about a month and a half ago on amazon and it practically doubled my battery life for a while. Now for some reason its no where near that performance and will only last me a day or so. I already wiped my battery stats, but no luck. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
OMG ONLY A DAY?! YOU POOR THING!
No really though. Maybe it's an app you've downloaded recently. Do a full wipe If a full day of battery life just isn't good enough for you.
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Any of the ext batteries good??
May I ask what the battery was? I got a really cheap one off amazon that is supposedly 3500mAh, but it only has a slight difference in charge time =/
Hey,
I got the same extended battery off amazon, it works amazing, anyways there are several things that could be causing this issue:
1. Like someone posted before me check your apps, see whats running. Make sure to look out for the new ones because it might be running in the backround where even the task killer cant reach and killing your batter D:
2. Are you using gps 4g or any other features like that?
3. If you are rooted did you just flash a new rom? because with different roms you will get many different factors that effect your batt, with MIUI I would get over a day on the standard battery, and on sense roms il get maybe only half a day.
4. Those cheap batts are made for little and sold at little from China, so the quality isnt always the best, and it might be time to get a new one!
Hope I helped! and I hope you find a solution! good luck!
L-ion batts
guih said:
I purchased a really cheap extended battery about a month and a half ago on amazon and it practically doubled my battery life for a while. Now for some reason its no where near that performance and will only last me a day or so. I already wiped my battery stats, but no luck. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
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Since this a very old post, I'm sure that you've already resolved the issue. It has been my experience that while L-ion batts don't have a memory, their ability to take a charge can be affected by inadequate initial charges and NOT running them totally dead, at least once in a while. Whereas wiping battery stats will help the phone's OS to ensure maximum charge and usage, the battery still needs to go through a full cycle.
I hope that I'm not wearing you out with crap you already know. (Let's just assume that someone else needs this information, too).
Now to get REALLY nerdy:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Read that if you really want to understand L-Ion batteries.
Then, you could just have a really cheap or bad battery pack. BTW, what's that brand again? I'm about to buy one myself...LOL.