Encoding HD Video for Windows Phone 7
Zune offers by default an automatic conversion of videos for Windows Phone 7. However the quality is not always what you want, the encoding time is endless and often lacks many options such as subtitles.
This guide was produced for encoding high definition video 720p or 1080p to Windows Phone 7. You can use the same method to encode videos lower quality but the result won't be conclusive.
Software & Encoding Setup
Many programs exist to encode each with their advantages and disadvantages. Some are paying others do not.
VidCoder offers all the advantages: free, easy to use while providing many functionalities.
The encoding is configured with the following parameters:
Container
mp4 File
Video
800 x 480 resolution (default for Windows Phone 7) in order to have 1:1 pixel ratio
Codec : H264 2 Pass
Bitrate 1200 kbps
Audio
AAC Stereo 128 kbps
Experienced users can manually adjusted the settings.
Install & Configuration
Download VidCoder from official webpage : http://vidcoder.codeplex.com/
VidCoder-0.9.0-x86.exe or VidCoder-0.9.0-x64.exe
Install application with standard option
Download and unzip from this topic the xml configuration file : Windows Phone 7.xml
Start VidCoder
Click "Tools" and "Import Preset.."
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Select the "Windows Phone 7.xml" file and click OK
The new Preset "Windows Phone 7" is used by default
Encoding
Drag & Drop any video in VidCoder
After tools detect your file add subtitles if you want. click Edit on subtitles line
Select your subtitles or import srt file and click "Burned In" to add it on video
Check Preview if you want and click Encode
Send video to your mobile with Zune (zune won't convert it again)
Done
You can now see the Best Video Quality Ever on Windows Phone 7 !
Q&A
My video is not recognized after drag & drop
Before Drag & Drop try to remux your video with mkvmerge Gui : mkvtoolnix-unicode-4.8.0-setup.exe
My subtitles doesn't work
Try to convert them to ass and integer in video with mkvmerge Gui
Great guide, thanks.
Thanks so much
wow extremely good info!
where were you at a few months ago??? lol
time to encode some anime for my wp7 mwahaha - with subs!!!!
I used HDConvertToX before VidCoder.
This application is also very effective but much more complicated for an equivalent result. Drag & drop and direct dvd or bluray encode of vidcoder is very cool.
If you want to limite video size change the video bitrate settings....
I tried Vidcoder with your wp7 presets and with Diary of a Wimpy Kid 2 and It was terrible, the sound slowly goes out of sync and the framerate lags.
Using Zune to convert the film and everything was ok so I'm still sticking to Zune for the moment. Thanks for the information though.
evoga said:
I tried Vidcoder with your wp7 presets and with Diary of a Wimpy Kid 2 and It was terrible, the sound slowly goes out of sync and the framerate lags.
Using Zune to convert the film and everything was ok so I'm still sticking to Zune for the moment. Thanks for the information though.
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I watch all my series and some movies.
2 hours action movies without lag on samsung omnia 7. Check your source video.
WP7 can play 2500 kbps video. We are far under this number.
I use Daniusoft Video Converter Ultimate, and my blu-ray movies are perfect on WP 7.
FPM
Handbrake
I started using Handbrake to shrink my movie file. Unfortunately, it still takes forever for Zune to transfer. What are the transfer times you guys are getting using this program?
If I select external .srt subtitle, there is no option to select "burn in subtitle". So subtitles are not visible.
Nice tutorial there... I'm running some random vids through to check out the quality...
I normally use AVS video converter and I usually encode to 1500 or 3000 bitrate depending on the source and what the vid is... I did some tests on the battle scenes of avatar and I'm sure the 3000 bitrate was noticeably better... When I play people the avatar clip peoples jaws always drop...
Either way it seems an easy to use app... Nice one...
bennyj71 said:
I started using Handbrake to shrink my movie file. Unfortunately, it still takes forever for Zune to transfer. What are the transfer times you guys are getting using this program?
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In Zune you must see "Syncing" if you see converting it's because your custom encoding preset are not compatible with device. What settings are you using ?
mrdaco said:
If I select external .srt subtitle, there is no option to select "burn in subtitle". So subtitles are not visible.
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In this case merge the sub (ASS) with video before with mkvmerge. It's 5 min more to go.
Converte srt to ass : http://atelier.u-sub.net/converter/
argentocruz said:
Nice tutorial there... I'm running some random vids through to check out the quality...
I normally use AVS video converter and I usually encode to 1500 or 3000 bitrate depending on the source and what the vid is... I did some tests on the battle scenes of avatar and I'm sure the 3000 bitrate was noticeably better... When I play people the avatar clip peoples jaws always drop...
Either way it seems an easy to use app... Nice one...
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1500 or 3000 will always give better results. However on a 4" screen, difference is really minimal above 1000 kbps.
Everything is a question of quality / size as well. Personally my action movies in 1200 kbps are very good and have 1 GB to 2 hours of footage
And for series between 150 and 600 MB.
To be honest, I only encode 'show off' videos @ 3000... I can see the difference even on my LG...
All the rest are 1500...
rvmax said:
In Zune you must see "Syncing" if you see converting it's because your custom encoding preset are not compatible with device. What settings are you using ?
I use the Iphone Preset. And it does say Syncing and not converting. I've had it take over an hour to sync a movie, I spent three hours in Handbrake converting
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Great tutorial , have shared it via 1800pocketpc : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2011/06/05/encoding-hd-videos-with-subtitles-for-windows-phone-tutorial.html
What a waste of time WP7 is
What a waste of time Zune is....
I don't want to be obliged to encode or convert my movies, etc.
I just want to drag & drop my AVI movie files to my phone and watch them immediately, like I always did before with WinMo.
Why WP7 is still not supporting DivX|avi file format?
And let me avoid Zune. It wastes my time and does a bad job.
arturobandini said:
What a waste of time WP7 is
What a waste of time Zune is....
I don't want to be obliged to encode or convert my movies, etc.
I just want to drag & drop my AVI movie files to my phone and watch them immediately, like I always did before with WinMo.
Why WP7 is still not supporting DivX|avi file format?
And let me avoid Zune. It wastes my time and does a bad job.
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Then use an OS that meets your need to drag and drop files directly to the device. Far from a waste of time because it doesnt work for you.
Thank You Buddy................
arturobandini said:
What a waste of time WP7 is
What a waste of time Zune is....
I don't want to be obliged to encode or convert my movies, etc.
I just want to drag & drop my AVI movie files to my phone and watch them immediately, like I always did before with WinMo.
Why WP7 is still not supporting DivX|avi file format?
And let me avoid Zune. It wastes my time and does a bad job.
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"I just want to drag & drop" Rofl? Get off your lazy ass. You are the kind of people that just leech off others and don't appreciate what other people contributed to this community. Maybe you should've done some research before you got the phone. The reason why Microsoft wants us to use Zune is that they can make more profit, thats how the business world works. If it wastes your time then just watch it on your Pc then, no one is stopping you from doing that.
Back to the point the converter is very nice however it takes around 50-60mins to convert the HD video(40mins duration) which does seem to be quite a large amount of time but overall quality is good
Related
2/4/2011
CAB Installer: http://www.mediafire.com/?jheqb1g1q1o4iz4
PC Based EXE Installer: http://www.mediafire.com/?88b5d463u2xbe3v
Codecs and DLL's only ZIP Archive (For Advanced Users): http://www.mediafire.com/?s3b5rj0gvefqyak
IMPORTANT! - In order to make use of the full capabilities of this codec pack, you will need to install the upgraded (Skinnable!) version of TCPMP from bimbam69, it is included in the Installers above, along with it's attendant files, you can download it separately as a ZIP Archive Here (For Advanced Users): http://www.mediafire.com/?wnxrm2eu1ms5gy6
ALSO - Please be sure to uninstall all previous versions of this, or any other codec pack, AND your current install of TCPMP. (Check to see if you have any lingering registry entries, and delete them.)
Codecs/DLL's Included: (As of 2/4/2011)
AAC (iPod audio files)
AC3
AMR
APE (Monkey's Audio)
ASAP
AVC (5% faster than the 84Kb version)
CAMERA
FFMPEG (Super Version - Plays SVQ1, SVQ3, H.263, AVC, MPEG4, FLV1, FLV4, ON2VP6)
FLAC (Actually works now!)
INTEL2700G (For those who need it (Axim X50/1v's))
LIBMAD
MATROSKA (V2 Compliant)
MP3
MPC
MPEG1
MPEG4
NETWORK (Modified for speed, seems more reliable)
RMFF
RADECODER (RealMedia Audio Decoder)
RVDECODER (RealMedia Video Decoder)
SPEEX
SPLITTER (Super Version - Tandems to FFMPEG)
SUBS (Stable/Reliable, displays correctly, and below the video itself regardless of which video decoder you use, must be enabled AFTER loading the target file, and disabled BEFORE loading the next file)
TTA
VORBISHQ
VORBISLQ
WAVPACK
ATRC.DLL
COOK.DLL
RV20.DLL
RV30.DLL
RV40.DLL
SIPR.DLL
WMA9PRODECODER.DLL (For those who need it)
WMV9DECODER.DLL (For those who need it)
Includes AVRCP Support, and the program can now be skinned (Additionally, skin creators can now include a fullscreen button).
This installation is smaller, due to the fact that many of the dependencies on external DLL's have been removed, and the plugins have been recompiled to be smaller, and more efficient.
Many of the modifications were done by bimbam69, see his continuing development/release thread Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636423 for his other versions, various skins for TCPMP can also be found in this thread.
The rmplugin was created by ghosting from pdafans.com Thread Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645456
CURRENT VERSION = 6.5.1
Version 6.5.1 changes are more streamlined codecs, and support for Monkey's Audio files, most useful if you extract the audio tracks from certain Playstation 1 games (Games where you could listen to the in-game soundtrack if you put the original disc into a CD player (Hot Wheels Extreme Racing, WipeOut 2097, and Sled Storm, for example)), you can now listen to those files without first converting them to the .mp3 format.
(An example of a skin with a fullscreen button can be found Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8983525&postcount=25)
Here are some Optimized VGA Skins: http://www.mediafire.com/?sq8c3wawoawhsjw Credit goes to the original creators of these skins.
Here's my new LCARS Skin: http://www.mediafire.com/?7m8gtfydv5gkhob
For installation cleanup, delete SetupDLL.dll/Setup.dll whichever one is present...
Enjoy!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
does the FLV4 and ON2VP6 works faster now??
flv4 does not work
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ahhl said:
flv4 does not work
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First, delete ALL registry entries for settings in TCPMP, then start the program, set file associations in the settings/associations submenu, and then restart your device. If you still cannot play the file, convert it.
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chelsea_fc said:
does the FLV4 and ON2VP6 works faster now??
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Honestly, I couldn't tell you, I make an effort to stay away from files with video encoded in those two formats. That being said, these types of files should at least open in TCPMP, how well they play remains to be seen.
This so called SUPER VERSION of the FFMPEG.PLG still does not work for CINEPAK. I told u this in your last codec pack. I know it says it works with CINEPAK on BIMBAMS thread but his build does not work with CINEPAK. Its weird cause when he first released his build it was compatable with CINEPAK but no longer is.
chelsea_fc said:
does the FLV4 and ON2VP6 works faster now??
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No there is nothin different. Its the same FFMPEG.PLG that BIMBAM has been using for 8 months or so. I have told UNIT & BIMBAM that it does not support CINEPAK but i guess they just ignore my words cause they still advertise that CINEPAK works. I say this cause your question refers to FLV4 files, and if you try to play a CINEPAK file u will get an error the if u try to play a FLV4 after trying a CINEPAK file u will get an error until u restart TCPMP. For some reason u cannot play FLV4 files after tryin to play CINPAK files and this is why i am makin a big deal of it. It drives me crazy. I have lots of AVI & MOV files that simply won't play and lots of FLV4 files that will not play after selecting these files unless i restart TCPMP. Its annoying.
I forgot to mention that I always liked the SUBS.PLG better than the subtitle plugin that comes with TCPMP. I noticed its better now but how do i get it to display correctly in fullscreen. The text is upside down in fullscreen.
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porkenhimer said:
No there is nothin different. Its the same FFMPEG.PLG that BIMBAM has been using for 8 months or so. I have told UNIT & BIMBAM that it does not support CINEPAK but i guess they just ignore my words cause they still advertise that CINEPAK works. I say this cause your question refers to FLV4 files, and if you try to play a CINEPAK file u will get an error the if u try to play a FLV4 after trying a CINEPAK file u will get an error until u restart TCPMP. For some reason u cannot play FLV4 files after tryin to play CINPAK files and this is why i am makin a big deal of it. It drives me crazy. I have lots of AVI & MOV files that simply won't play and lots of FLV4 files that will not play after selecting these files unless i restart TCPMP. Its annoying.
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Just a couple questions: Did you clear ALL your registry settings and install entries, as well as delete ALL related files and COMPLETELY uninstall your previous version of TCPMP, and soft-reset your device before installing this player and codec pack? If you did indeed do so, you should experience few, if any difficulties. I cannot tell you what, if any cinepack issues exist, as I personally do not posses any files in that format. If you could post samples of the "lots of... files that will not play" perhaps we can get to the bottom of this. Try posting them in bimbam's thread as well, he is the primary programmer for this project, I just do graphics, and assemble the packs for distribution.
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porkenhimer said:
I forgot to mention that I always liked the SUBS.PLG better than the subtitle plugin that comes with TCPMP. I noticed its better now but how do i get it to display correctly in fullscreen. The text is upside down in fullscreen.
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What direction is the program oriented in? Right handed or Left handed? Also, which version of the "SUBS" plugin do you have? On another note, if a filetype does not play in TCPMP, there are several free solutions for converting it to another format that will play. Personally, I recommend SUPER.
Unit ZER0 said:
Just a couple questions: Did you clear ALL your registry settings and install entries, as well as delete ALL related files and COMPLETELY uninstall your previous version of TCPMP, and soft-reset your device before installing this player and codec pack? If you did indeed do so, you should experience few, if any difficulties. I cannot tell you what, if any cinepack issues exist, as I personally do not posses any files in that format. If you could post samples of the "lots of... files that will not play" perhaps we can get to the bottom of this. Try posting them in bimbam's thread as well, he is the primary programmer for this project, I just do graphics, and assemble the packs for distribution.
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i already got to the bottom of the issue. CINEPAK simply is not supported. when BIMBAM first released his build CINEPAK was but after a couple releases it no longer was supported. i just though ur release would be something new. i do not need to convert my files cause i use my own build of TCPMP that actually plays CINEPAK. just lettin u know so u could inform others that may ask why CINEPAK files won't play.
porkenhimer said:
i already got to the bottom of the issue. CINEPAK simply is not supported. when BIMBAM first released his build CINEPAK was but after a couple releases it no longer was supported. i just though ur release would be something new. i do not need to convert my files cause i use my own build of TCPMP that actually plays CINEPAK. just lettin u know so u could inform others that may ask why CINEPAK files won't play.
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Here is a link to where u can find some small CINEPAK samples. Test some out so u can see that CINEPAK is not playable. You will get an popup error each time u try to play any of the samples.
http:\\wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=Cinepak
flv not working
zero unit for flv (lol)...not working......core player much better...!
Thanks my friends
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zohawkish said:
zero unit for flv (lol)...not working......core player much better...!
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Clear ALL your registry settings and entries, then double check your file associations in TCPMP. If the format is FLV4, there may be some playback issues, try converting the file to another format. Also, Try ALL (22+) available video formats before saying Coreplayer is better. TCPMP has several distinct advantages: For Starters, It's Free.
Unit ZER0 said:
Clear ALL your registry settings and entries, then double check your file associations in TCPMP. If the format is FLV4, there may be some playback issues, try converting the file to another format. Also, Try ALL (22+) available video formats before saying Coreplayer is better. TCPMP has several distinct advantages: For Starters, It's Free.
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l ve cleared all registry!!! no change...
Jesus, when this is really working then we all can make a step in the right direction.
Thank you for sharing Unit ZER0...
Many thanks Unit ZERO! Installed it yesterday and it seems a lot more stable when playing .avi than the previous incarnation. I will continue to use it and feedback.
Thanks OP.
This version works better than the 0.81RC version I was using. I think it's also better than the paid core player version, because I can put the device into standby without streaming music stopping.
Cheers.
zohawkish said:
zero unit for flv (lol)...not working......core player much better...!
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If your FLV files use the AVC (H.264) codec they will not play with TCPMP. To check this play the files in COREPLAYER and check media properties to see what video codec they use. Other files that use the AVC (H.264) codec will play but FLV files using that codec will not. FLV with AVC (H.264) codec have never played in TCPMP.
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.
Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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I think this application should solve your problem....you can adjust everything....
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
It was great,I use it to convert videos for my android and Iphone...and it is very flexible.You can adjust the bit rate,size...almost everything...and it is free...
That's what i'm using at them minute sylau as i said in my post
Audio said:
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me...
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Do you know of a good one which will let me just convert to mp4 WVGA Paul?
*EDIT* Just found This Thread which Recommends a GUI for MENCoder called "SUPER". My dealings with MENCoder have been great in the past so i'll give it a go and let others know what it's like.
FWIW the Microsoft way is to use Expression encoder for WMV. It's free, it's nice, and it does a good job encoding, so if you want WMV you should use that one.
paul_43 said:
Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.
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My Zune does not even want to read WMV files so I can not upload. I have multiple copies of DVD's/Blu-Ray's with digital copie of movie for portable devices.
I can copy those movies to my PC and watch them, I can watch them on HD2 but zune doesn ot see them so I can not copy them on to phone. They are all in WMV or MP4 format.
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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Same problem, I have digital copy's of blu-ray's that came with them, they play using WMV but the Zune Software won't see them and won't play them.
Download 'Expression Encoder'. There's an option to encode specifically for Zune.
Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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Funny as phone by default records in mp4
Mabe the audio stream?
I was just playing around with this last night, and the biggest issue was the audio stream. While it plays h264 streams up to the High Profile level 3.0, it did not like an AC3 stream. I had to demux a video that I had in an mkv container, convert the audio to AAC and remux into an mp4 container. Microsoft has a whole detailed table of stream type compatibility with bit rates, profiles, etc. I can't seem to post links, so search for it at the msdn dot microsoft dot com under this title "Supported Media Codecs for Windows Phone". The list on the WP7 consumer site sucks btw.
The AAC has two compatible types, AAC-LC and HE-AACv1 or v2.
I used MeGui to redo the audio, and yamb to mux it.
Thanks dgetz, here is the link to msdn.
Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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for the time being i have been using "HTC Touch HD Video Converter"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Seems to work very well
anyone try clonedvd mobile. I have used this in the past with the sony psp settings and gotten very good results, just a very small black strip (maybe 1-2mm) across the top and bottom of the screen (on my hd2).
Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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I can confirm that MP4 works on the Focus, using TV shows previously converted for my iPhone 4
I use handbrake on Windows and Mac to convert my videos, using the settings from
http://lifehacker.com/5572037/handbrake-presets-for-your-new-ipad-or-iphone-4
The results have been good, but using the frame(middle) setting shown in that article does bump up the file size a good amount, and as I'm sure a lot of you have heard, storage space isn't so easy to come by on WP7 yet...
Handbrake
I too can vouch for handbrake. All of the videos I have made for my ipod touch with it work just fine on the Focus. Unfortunately, the library I have for the touch is lower resolution, with videos at about 1/2 DVD resolution and at 500kbps encode rate. I end up with about 500 MB for the about 90 min. It is nice because they don't take up a lot of room, but still look decent. When output to a standard definition TV they look fine as well.
When I first put a few of these home videos on the Focus the lower quality was immediately noticeable. To see how I could push the phone, in my reply above I took a full DVD resolution video 720x400 (16x9 non-anamorphic) and corrected the audio stream. That video looks gorgeous on the Focus screen and is great for showing off the phone. It also takes up over 2.5 GB!!!! It is encoded at a rate of about 2100 kbps. As with any video encoding for a mobile device you have to make your own decision about resolution, encoding rate, etc in that constant game of quality versus size.
One thing to note. If there are black bars on your video, then either you have a video that was not encoded in a proportion that matches your screen or it was hard coded with the black bars. The second thing should be rare nowadays (eliminating this wasted information space was the point of an anamorphic DVD). The first is actually very common. IF your media is a studio movie, almost every action film these days comes at 2.35:1 instead of 16:9=1.77:1. Personally I like viewing any of my content in the way it was originally intended to be viewed and don't ever re-proportion anything. At the moment I am not sure if the Focus/WP7 'stretches' videos. I know on my ipod touch this was an option you could toggle by double tapping the video during playback...
Maybe I will play around with a few options tonight and report back.
have a zunehd and remember seeing this thread on abi
anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58183
it converts the audio of any avi/mkv and keeps the video the same, so converting only takes a few mins, and zune software recognizes it..for the zunehd anyways, maybe someone can try w/ wp7
Since I couldn't find right settings for MediaCoder (best video converter ever).
I was using Prism Video Converter for my Omnia7.
About settings for prism:
For .wmv use as video compresor WMV9 and for sound WMAV9, i am not changing the resolution as it is not bothering me at all. All files (mostly avi or mkv) played smooth after conversion.
If anybody have good settings for MediaCoder I will be much appreciated for sharing.
Thx
Okay, so MP4forHD works. The quality still isn't stunning, but it'll do for now (i guess.) However, i've encountered an issue with contrast. All my blacks appear as dark grays, which drives me nuts
Hi. I got a SGH-I727 (AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket), which has the same 1.5ghz dual core Snapdragon processor as SGH-T989, and I'm curious if the SGH-T989 has the same issues with XviD encoded with the XviD 1.2.1 codec (aka bitstream XviD0050).
To verify that I wasn't going out of my mind, I fired up my old Galaxy S(I9000), and the same XviD videos played buttery smooth on it. But my SGH-I727 plays videos at about 2/3 of the fps. So for example, the XviD that should be 23.97 fps play at about 16fps. And 29.97 fps videos play at 20fps. Can someone try firing up a XviD on the SGH-T989?
On a side note, XviD encoded with DivX503b* play just fine (mainly because they are just DivX files in disguise). None of the other video codecs seem to have any problems. The problem is that 99% of my videos I want to watch are are encoded with XviD 1.2.1, so it is a real drag.
I've tried every player in the market. And even though software decoding delivers perfect fps, the resolution is pixelated. On Hardware Acceleration, they all seem to play back with the same level of choppiness. The only one showing any promise is the BS Player lite, but it is incredibly buggy, although the framerate is there.
Players that I've tried:
Dice Player
MX Player
BS Player lite
Mobo
VPlayer
Rock Player
None of these players play XviD files as smooth as my I9000 (Samsung Galaxy S). If the XviD plays fine on the SGH-T989, can someone use something like SystemApp Remover and make a backup of VideoPlayer.apk? I would seriously appreciate it. I've been trying to find a solution since the day I got my GSII Skyrocket. Thanks in advance!
i use MoboPlayer and it works fine on my AVI and MKV files
i'll need to find some DviX files to try and see if i can reproduce the problem you are describing
might simply be an encoding issue, DivX has always been a flaky encoder wrapper of choice to use
Samsung Demo HD Videos
hey you can try these
HD Samsung BoA - I Did It For Love.divx http://www.multiupload.com/SOLIRYEP5E
HD Samsung 2NE1 - Fire (Space Version).divx http://www.multiupload.com/L5ZGGPOH0U
HD Samsung Wonder Girls - Nobody.divx http://www.multiupload.com/MBAQMQS20A
they play smooth and nsync with audio
set your Mobo Player to play with Hardware Decoding
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Thanks for your inputs. The problem is that DivX is not choppy. But XviD is choppy. Specifically XviD 1.2.1 encoded XviDs, which is the majority of all video files I have and it is the format that I wish to download in the future. (Mainly TV Shows)
What I mean by choppy is, the movements are not smooth if you can tell the difference between 24fps vs 16fps. You can see the affect by doing a software decode, and noticing the smoothness of movement in comparison to the HW decode mode. As far as I can tell, every other Samsung Galaxy S and S2's can do HW decode, and have the motion as smooth as you see with the SW decode. Mobo on HW decode only produces the same choppiness that the standard Video player is capable of.
Can someone test this with XviD's? I would like some solid confirmation that it is either the Snapdragon processor (so SGH-T989 would have the same issue), or just my phone (SGH-i727 Skyrocket).
i do watch a lot of TV shows (Warehouse 13, Eureka, Terra Nova, Animes, etc, etc) from my phone as well, but they are all H.264 encoded
i'll need to dig through my old archives to find old Xvid encoded files.
unless you have some samples readily available
I also play alot of xvid and have noticed the weird lag that xvid gives too, on almost all the players out there, even with mobo on hardware (mobo still lets the phones software to use the hardware to decode, so mobo still isn't doing the heavy lifting so u still get xvid choppyness). So I bought Dice Player (true hardware decoding control) and it works 100 percent fine now and i love that player also, i love the scrubbing feature of the seek bar!
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I also play alot of xvid and have noticed the weird lag that xvid gives too, on almost all the players out there, even with mobo on hardware (mobo still lets the phones software to use the hardware to decode, so mobo still isn't doing the heavy lifting so u still get xvid choppyness). So I bought Dice Player (true hardware decoding control) and it works 100 percent fine now and i love that player also, i love the scrubbing feature of the seek bar!
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Hi pychobj2001, thank you for your reply. You're not the first one to point out Dice Player. Someone pointed this out on the SGH-I727 forum as well, but I tried the trial, then I ended up buying the full version for ~$5, and it still is choppy. Not getting the smooth 23.97 and 29.97fps I can get on much older Galaxy S devices... I've tested it with 5 XviD files of different shows, but all encoded with XviD0050 (1.2.1). Dice player seems to be maybe marginally better, if it is any better at all. If you really want to see what smooth fps looks like try BS Player lite. Unfortunately, it is really buggy, but you can see moments of smooth playback that even Dice Player can't seem to do. I'm looking for that level of smoothness without the messed up picture. SW decoding delivers the same amount of smoothness, but at the cost of having to see pixelation.
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i do watch a lot of TV shows (Warehouse 13, Eureka, Terra Nova, Animes, etc, etc) from my phone as well, but they are all H.264 encoded
i'll need to dig through my old archives to find old Xvid encoded files.
unless you have some samples readily available
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Yeah, H.264 is perfect on these devices. It would be nice if everyone on the Internet forgot about XviD and used H.264 and DivX for my sake. Unfortunately, I have 2 terabytes of XviD video that I would rather not re-encode.
The whole point of getting the Galaxy S2 was that I would never have to re-encode anything. I owned an iPhone for 2 years and what I ended up doing was encoding about 16GB of videos to H.264, but I never bothered to re-encode anything after that, so I was watching the same dang videos for 2 years. That is why I would never buy an iPhone again. Anyway, sorry for the rant.
so i found a recent XviD
Assassin's.Creed.Embers.2011. in .XviD.
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so i found a recent XviD
Assassin's.Creed.Embers.2011. in .XviD.
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I got a hold of the Assassin's Creed XviD file. Verified it was XviD0050 (1.2.1). This video plays at about 20fps, when you should be seeing 24fps. For example, at the 3:10 mark, during the zoom in, the zoom in should be totally smooth, not like someone is flipping through stop motion animation. If you want to see how smooth it should be, you can enable software decoding to get the smooth playback. The downside of software decoding is that the images look pixelated.
All the other Galaxy phones are able to produce the smooth playback at 24fps, but with the upscaled image quality hardware encoding provides. Just not on the on the Snapdragon processors.
If you have a friend with a Exynos processor, play the same video side by side with your Snapdragon device. But prepare to be disappointed knowing although your should be able to do it, it isn't doing it. And there are no current player in the android market that can play xvid files as smooth as an out of the box Exynos-based Galaxy S/S2.
I've finally found a solution. CineXPlayer. The features and interface is very basic and slight amateurish that music is acceptable during load up (luckily it disables), but all I care about is the video quality because choppy frame rates is noticeable during the entire duration. Better than DicePlayer when playing XviD files because DicePlayer still does choppy XviD playback on the Snapdragon devices. CineXPlayer is $2. Well worth the money. Haven't tested any other media formats because I can just use the Videos app for every other format because the phone does it well without the need for a 3rd party app. It will be nice if I can open streams with CineXPlayer using a DLNA device, but that is not top priority. It will be a nice addon to CineXPlayer whenever they get around to it. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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I've finally found a solution. CineXPlayer. The features and interface is very basic and slight amateurish that music is acceptable during load up (luckily it disables), but all I care about is the video quality because choppy frame rates is noticeable during the entire duration. Better than DicePlayer when playing XviD files because DicePlayer still does choppy XviD playback on the Snapdragon devices. CineXPlayer is $2. Well worth the money. Haven't tested any other media formats because I can just use the Videos app for every other format because the phone does it well without the need for a 3rd party app. It will be nice if I can open streams with CineXPlayer using a DLNA device, but that is not top priority. It will be a nice addon to CineXPlayer whenever they get around to it. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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Agreed and downloaded.
Lucidmike said:
I've finally found a solution. CineXPlayer. The features and interface is very basic and slight amateurish that music is acceptable during load up (luckily it disables), but all I care about is the video quality because choppy frame rates is noticeable during the entire duration. Better than DicePlayer when playing XviD files because DicePlayer still does choppy XviD playback on the Snapdragon devices. CineXPlayer is $2. Well worth the money. Haven't tested any other media formats because I can just use the Videos app for every other format because the phone does it well without the need for a 3rd party app. It will be nice if I can open streams with CineXPlayer using a DLNA device, but that is not top priority. It will be a nice addon to CineXPlayer whenever they get around to it. Case closed as far as I'm concerned.
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Agreed and downloaded.
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Try playing a DD5.1 file, doesnt work. But the video is good...
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Try playing a DD5.1 file, doesnt work. But the video is good...
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What kind of videos use that file type? Never heard it before so don't think it'll be a problem for me.
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What kind of videos use that file type? Never heard it before so don't think it'll be a problem for me.
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Its not the video part, an xvid with dolby digital 5.1 audio encoded. In case you were going to watch on a big screen through hdmi the player doesnt support 5.1 audio.
Guys, I've stumbled onto a strange workaround. You don't need CineXPlayer but you may need to be rooted.
Basically, there is a bug in the skyrocket OS. When a hardware video overlay is enabled, the video becomes choppy. CineXPlayer does not use the hardware overlay the same way, that is why the video is not choppy. A workaround was that I downloaded gamecih2 (not gamecih available from Android Market). Gamecih2 is availablehere http://www.cih.com.tw/download.
Why have gamecih2 toolbar running in the foreground? I have no idea but it solves the xvid choppiness issue! Strange yes, but effective. You will notice the diff immediately. Try killing the toolbar and the choppiness returns. Just have it running before you start the vid. You can even make the gamecih2 toolbar transparent.
Now...if you a real stickler like myself about video quality you will notice the stock hardware decoding, while it has improved to near perfection, is still not perfect. It drops a frame or two every now and then. There is a solution. You need to use the gamecih2 toolbar with DicePlayer. Try the DicePlayer Trial with the gamecih2 toolbar. This combo will make your Skyrocket play your XviD as good as the original Galaxy S. I'm not sure if it does DD5.1 audio, but definitely try it out.
Why not just use CineXPlayer? You can, but I've realized although the player plays as smooth as using the gamecih2 floating toolbar work-around with DicePlayer, the features on the CineXPlayer is lacking (UI, streaming support, DD5.1 support), and the quality of the images is off by just a hair on the CineXPlayer.
Solution 1:
CineXPlayer* $2
*limitations: no streaming support, no DD5.1, outdated UI
Solution 2:
gamecih2* (run this app, make it transparent before you start your video in any player)
DicePlayer (optional $5.38, not absolutely necessary unless you are looking for absolute perfect playback.)
*this toolbar requires your device to be rooted.
regarding the Xvid choppiness
i actually found the same bug in my home theatre PC quad core with 4 GB RAM when running XMBC
however if i use another Video Player, then the Xvid bug goes away.
seems like anything encoded in Xvid is just bad over all, and you need good paid software to compensate for its problems
playing any other media files format / encoders, have no problem even when they are 720p or 1080p files
why Xvid is so crap?
**Just in case there are still those out there looking for the best methods for video file conversion/playback, HD, mkv, avi, divx, mpeg... I enjoy troubleshooting A/V hiccups for any who could use the help, don't have ALL the answers but it's fun for me and want to contribute all I can!
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With that said...
WinX HD Video Converter free for download today by liking their facebook page:
http://www.f******k.com/WinXDVD?sk=app_208195102528120
replace the stars with the appropriate letters, duh...
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With that said...
WinX HD Video Converter free for download today by liking their facebook page:
http://www.f******k.com/WinXDVD?sk=app_208195102528120
replace the stars with the appropriate letters, duh...
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Good lookin' out! Thanks for this! Another free alternative is Freemake Video Converter, it's the VLC Player of file converters with device presets preloaded.
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with this phone i even forgot the last time i converted/encoded anything... MX Video Player is simply the best and will play anything you throw at it up to 720p. 1080p plays smoothly as well but not always. oh, and multi-subtitles/multi-audio tracks are supported as wel. only issue i found with it is it won't display embedded bitmap "vob" subtitles (other subtitles, both mixed in and external play just fine)
as far as video conversion, i take the geeky approach. AviSynth + x264 + neroAacEnc. with proper settings you will get the best results, ever... seriously. if you're scarred of command line, use the MeGUI or Handbrake frontends. same encoders, different approach.
i've spent many years experimenting with various video encoders/compressors and from my experience i've concluded that regardless of what you're trying to accomplish, h264/aac codec combo will give you the best quality than any other codec out there. oh, and make sure to use mkv container. it's the most flexible of popular container formats.
lastly, if you just want an easy tool, use Sorenson Squeeze. very flexible, easy to use, has gpu acceleration, and gives quite impressive results. only downside is its hella expensive, that is if you're trying to stay legal
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with this phone i even forgot the last time i converted/encoded anything... MX Video Player is simply the best and will play anything you throw at it up to 720p. 1080p plays smoothly as well but not always. oh, and multi-subtitles/multi-audio tracks are supported as wel. only issue i found with it is it won't display embedded bitmap "vob" subtitles (other subtitles, both mixed in and external play just fine)
as far as video conversion, i take the geeky approach. AviSynth + x264 + neroAacEnc. with proper settings you will get the best results, ever... seriously. if you're scarred of command line, use the MeGUI or Handbrake frontends. same encoders, different approach.
i've spent many years experimenting with various video encoders/compressors and from my experience i've concluded that regardless of what you're trying to accomplish, h264/aac codec combo will give you the best quality than any other codec out there. oh, and make sure to use mkv container. it's the most flexible of popular container formats.
lastly, if you just want an easy tool, use Sorenson Squeeze. very flexible, easy to use, has gpu acceleration, and gives quite impressive results. only downside is its hella expensive, that is if you're trying to stay legal
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Very true, our device will typically play most formats stock without a complaint. I mostly set this thread in motion for our fellow xda'ers who were having trouble finding options to overcome a single file size limitation without splitting. Your info was spot on my man.. well said!
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http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
That is a very simple, no options (other than picking the phone model) encoder. I don't know off hand that phone in its list has similar resolution with our phone (800x480 I think) but it works without a fuss. It doesn't do batch, only one at a time. I don't know if it's 2 pass or not. My preference is handbrake. If you use something like that, check in the settings that CABAC is off. That is a feature that will make smaller files but it will need more cpu to decode during playback. Off setting has larger file sizes but it's less cpu intensive during playback. I haven't made a comparison between on and off but I don't think off makes the file really huge. If you're doing DVD resolution encodes, dual pass encoding with video bitrate of 2000 is sufficient with no noticeable difference in artifacting from 2500.
Another suggestion is with the video the phone camcorder makes. It's bigger than it needs to be file size wise. Run it through handbrake with default settings, only changing CABAC to off, and perspective (screen) to none. That makes a 1080 2 gig 20 minute video down to about 300mb and I don't see the difference in video quality.
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Another free alternative is Freemake Video Converter, it's the VLC Player of file converters with device presets preloaded.
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Thanks for this heads up, but I have a question. I was converting a DVD to test this one out, and it seems to work flawlessly so far, but I did notice if I choose to convert to Android 800x480 with the defaults everywhere else, I wind up with files around 1.25GB. Is there a particular set of settings I can use to shrink that size or a way to take the mp4 files and reduce their size? I'm used to mp4s being ~300 - 500MB, so just wondering if there is a way to set it up I'm not seeing.
I use Hand brake without issue on my epic touch. Just throwing out another program for everyone to try.
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Thanks for this heads up, but I have a question. I was converting a DVD to test this one out, and it seems to work flawlessly so far, but I did notice if I choose to convert to Android 800x480 with the defaults everywhere else, I wind up with files around 1.25GB. Is there a particular set of settings I can use to shrink that size or a way to take the mp4 files and reduce their size? I'm used to mp4s being ~300 - 500MB, so just wondering if there is a way to set it up I'm not seeing.
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Welcome! Yeah you can change a few things, the bit rate and format play a lot in the over all file size. Mp4 will compress more as apposed to avi. The ps3 setting is a useful one for that. You can click on each of the presets setting and get an overview of the container/codec/bit rate/frame rate that are being used to give you an idea.
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Thanks again. I found in the dialog box that allows me to rename the mp4 I can also limit the maximum size of the file. It automagically changes the bitrate that way, and I have much more manageable files now.
darthstewie said:
Thanks again. I found in the dialog box that allows me to rename the mp4 I can also limit the maximum size of the file. It automagically changes the bitrate that way, and I have much more manageable files now.
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Nice! Glad it's working for you! BTW..."darthstewie" damn I wish I'd thought of that as a username!!
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Im asking about the slow motion videos on lg g4 , when i record a video with slow mo effect i can watch it on my phone but when sent it to another phone like samsung he just played like normal video with normal speed please some help here
cenailyass said:
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Im asking about the slow motion videos on lg g4 , when i record a video with slow mo effect i can watch it on my phone but when sent it to another phone like samsung he just played like normal video with normal speed please some help here
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Change your player settings , reduce playback speed to 8 . If you can not, install LG video player on that device .
rajkatiyar07 said:
Change your player settings , reduce playback speed to 8 . If you can not, install LG video player on that device .
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I have lg video i reduceed the video to 8 but i want to send it in slow mo do you know what im saying ????
cenailyass said:
I have lg video i reduceed the video to 8 but i want to send it in slow mo do you know what im saying ????
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i do . but you got to understand . it does not matter if you send it to other device , device must have a player to play the video at reduced playback speed.
cenailyass said:
I have lg video i reduceed the video to 8 but i want to send it in slow mo do you know what im saying ????
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Mx player wont play in slowmotion. the stock Lg video do, so by sending your video if the other phone has a slowmotion built in in video it will but if it doesnt it will play just normal speed... you need a video player that supports it . to see it in slowmotion..
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Mx player wont play in slowmotion. the stock Lg video do, so by sending your video if the other phone has a slowmotion built in in video it will but if it doesnt it will play just normal speed... you need a video player that supports it . to see it in slowmotion..
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And how to share a slow mo video on social media
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And how to share a slow mo video on social media
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You cant.. i guess then you must convert video with an app or program that converts 120fps videos to slow motion play in any other player.
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You cant.. i guess then you must convert video with an app or program that converts 120fps videos to slow motion play in any other player.
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Any suggetions
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Any suggetions
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ive never done it but i guess you can just google it.. and seee what you find.. i remebered seing apps in the playstore search slomotion video...
Whoever said mx player can't play it in slow motion doesn't know mx player.
Mx player can play any video at playback speeds ranging from 25% to 400%. That means your 120fps video at 25%, will play at 30fps, which is what the native LG video app does, only automatically.
If it's a friend on a different device just tell them to use a decent video player that allows them to play any video at a quarter of its speed (like mx player or VLC on Android or whatever on pc).
If you need to share on social media and people to see in slow motion without doing anything, you'll have to convert it (on a pic preferably).
There are no slow motion videos really. Only high fps videos. It's on the player to play it at reduced speed.
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Whoever said mx player can't play it in slow motion doesn't know mx player.
Mx player can play any video at playback speeds ranging from 25% to 400%. That means your 120fps video at 25%, will play at 30fps, which is what the native LG video app does, only automatically.
If it's a friend on a different device just tell them to use a decent video player that allows them to play any video at a quarter of its speed (like mx player or VLC on Android or whatever on pc).
If you need to share on social media and people to see in slow motion without doing anything, you'll have to convert it (on a pic preferably).
There are no slow motion videos really. Only high fps videos. It's on the player to play it at reduced speed.
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i said it .. care to tell us how?? i dont seem to see those settings...
You should be able to share your slo mo vids via google photos.
Set photos to backup your videos to the cloud, in the app you should see a different icon in the corner of your 120 fps videos (although this sometimes takes a while to show up for me). Tap on the video and you can edit when the video changes from normal speed to slo mo and back to normal speed using a simple slider. If you click the share button it should share the edited version.
I'm on stock MM, 120 fps vids recorded with the stock camera.
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i said it .. care to tell us how?? i dont seem to see those settings...
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Two finger slide down (play slower) or up (play faster). Just make sure settings > player > controls > playback speed is checked.
Also see settings > player > default playback speed.
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Two finger slide down (play slower) or up (play faster). Just make sure settings > player > controls > playback speed is checked.
Also see settings > player > default playback speed.
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i dont see them. am using v 1.7.41 arm 7 neon.. idont see player controls playback speed.. 2 fingers move my screen..
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If two fingers start moving horizontally then they pan (move as you say) the video. If they start moving vertically then they change the playback speed. But you must have the option enabled.
1.7.41! How many years back is that?
Mx player is on version 1.8.3 the last six months..
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If two fingers start moving horizontally then they pan (move as you say) the video. If they start moving vertically then they change the playback speed. But you must have the option enabled.
1.7.41! How many years back is that?
Mx player is on version 1.8.3 the last six months..
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yes its old i will update LOL.. but theres no option like in your pic for speed playback. maybe it was added in newer versions...if it works then ill just remove the stock player ..