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Cheap batteries, possibly longer life...

bought these http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=260607429319&view=all&tid=0
just got them today, pretty fast shipping, about 8 business days to alberta canada. i had my doubts because of the price, but they fit perfect, have the same specs as my stock battery, and come with a handy wall charger too. so far i have 8 hours on one of them with my regular heavy text usage, some 3g market etc. only at 81%! seems a bit better than my stock battery but that could be placebo, more testing in the following days should prove wether they last as long or longer than stock.
just thought id give you guys a heads up, im happy with the purchase and now i can have 2 spare batteries in case for some reason im not around my car charger or wall charger. also have a crystal gel case on its way, will take pics of it for the other thread when it arrives.
cheers!
Ptesmoke

just to clarify, in case anyone caught it in the ad....
first picture battery label says li-poly, item description says li-ion. i can confirm they are li-poly technology.
just in case anyone caught that...
Ptesmoke

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Can you provide the battery's manufacturer and model number? Even pics would be cool.

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+1 need the new link...

sorry guys! maybe the link was somehow part of my account. but heres another ad by same seller.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2X-Battery-Charg...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a5bbbedc4
so far today usage seems about the same as the SE stock battery, but i did encounter a problem last night. i plugged it in with my SE charger, green charge light comes on, but didnt charge. i didnt notice this until this morning when the phone was off and dead , so i guess they dont charge with the SE charger, but they do however charge very fast in the wall dock that came with them. i also tried using the usb cord from the SE charger with the charger i bought, doesnt charge. im wondering if theres something different with sony's cable, might go pick up a generic micro? i think, usb cable tonight and see if it will charge properly.
anyways, sucks they dont charge with the SE charger but i think it might be because the SE battery has the overcharge protection circuit in the battery? while these batteries dont? just a guess.
ill keep you posted, and i can get pics if you want, but they are EXACTLY as shown in that ad, like, identical.
cheers!
Ptesmoke

Thanks, interesting, I was mainly looking for a battery charger, I didn't know I can find one for the X10.
Do you knw if you can recharge the original battery or the mugen one with this charger?
The price is pretty cheap I may buy one and see it myself anyway.

my SE battery charges in it, but the two no name batteries will not charge with the se charger, or my old htc diamond charger with the se cable.... i dont know if its the se usb cable or the no name batteries... but they seem to have the same capacity as the se battery...
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Thanks for the info

ptesmoke said:
bought these http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=260607429319&view=all&tid=0
just got them today, pretty fast shipping, about 8 business days to alberta canada. i had my doubts because of the price, but they fit perfect, have the same specs as my stock battery, and come with a handy wall charger too. so far i have 8 hours on one of them with my regular heavy text usage, some 3g market etc. only at 81%! seems a bit better than my stock battery but that could be placebo, more testing in the following days should prove wether they last as long or longer than stock.
just thought id give you guys a heads up, im happy with the purchase and now i can have 2 spare batteries in case for some reason im not around my car charger or wall charger. also have a crystal gel case on its way, will take pics of it for the other thread when it arrives.
cheers!
Ptesmoke
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I bought the same batteries with the charger and neither battery would take a charge.
I would be very careful of getting a knockoff battery. They are labeled as being manufactured by SE but clearly they are not SE batteries.
Did a google search and it seems some fellow died when his knockoff batteries exploded as he was carrying his cell phone in his shirt pocket. Had he been carrying his phone in his front pant's pocket he might have a different problem
The article did not say what brand these batteries were knocking off, but I would still be wary of such cheap batteries.

i already stated they do not charge with the SE charger. and if you got the same as i ordered they are the bst-41 standard and meet all specs of the bst-41. do your homework beforehand people. batteries have been used daily since recieved, no issues , and almost exact consuption as stock bst-41.
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ptesmoke said:
i already stated they do not charge with the SE charger. and if you got the same as i ordered they are the bst-41 standard and meet all specs of the bst-41. do your homework beforehand people. batteries have been used daily since recieved, no issues , and almost exact consuption as stock bst-41.
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Sorry if I rained on your parade but
They are labeled as being manufactured by SE (therefor are knockoffs) and they even have a phony serial #. I did do my homework and it seems that all those batteries have the same serial #.
How do you know they are same standard of bst-41 and meet all the specs, when clearly they are mislabeled - even says made in japan and I seriously doubt they are made there.
At least I can safely say they have poor quality control as both the ones sent to me did not even take a charge with their charger.
Talk about doing homework .....
In any case good luck with your purchase

jesus has this root wait made everyone mad negative??? im thinking we got shipped differnt batteries dude because the ones he sent me are identical to my se battery in every way, even the sticker on it is almost exact, even if they are knockoffs (which is what i was expecting) they are dam good ones imo. ive had knockoffs before but these charge in the same amount of time and discharge identical to my stock battery. maybe i got lucky, maybe you got unlucky, who knows. being knockoffs i guess u cant really complain for 10 bux. right now my 3 batteries are lasting me 7 days without charge....and thats on all night too.
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ptesmoke said:
jesus has this root wait made everyone mad negative???
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My God, you are SO right about this!
ptesmoke said:
im thinking we got shipped differnt batteries dude because the ones he sent me are identical to my se battery in every way, even the sticker on it is almost exact, even if they are knockoffs (which is what i was expecting) they are dam good ones imo. ive had knockoffs before but these charge in the same amount of time and discharge identical to my stock battery. maybe i got lucky, maybe you got unlucky, who knows. being knockoffs i guess u cant really complain for 10 bux. right now my 3 batteries are lasting me 7 days without charge....and thats on all night too.
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All you wanted was to help and give your opinion and review.
Thank you for that!
I am thinking of getting a spare one myself, just for the summer holidays where I expect to be away from my charger more often!

just want to update this thread, its been weeks now, and i just checked my usage today on one of these batteries. phone has been on for 22hours since last charge...30% remaining, and thats including wifi on for i would say 5 hours, and 3g for the remaining hours. im using adw launcher, and i have gps off and bluetooth off. i usually have my 3g off as well, but since im on vacation and have 3 batteries i could care less so ive left it on. to my surprise im getting really REALLY good battery life. also have probably sent/rec about 200 texts since last charge, few phone calls, alot of surfing, mostly on xda app.
but yea, just wanted to put it out there that it is possible! should get even better after root!
BTW i just recently uninstalled task killer and task cleaner, i now let droid do all of that stuff....so...i guess the rumour is true....ATK does in fact use more battery...
cheers everyone

so I just put my stock battery in before I went to sleep last night, turned off 3g to see what kind of drain I could get. its been on for 9 hours without 3g, and I'm at 97%!!!! can someone tell me how to get a screenshot so u guys can see?
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2x Battery + charger 2000mah($13.00)

Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911

Highly doubtful 2000ma batteries, probably 1500ma batteries that are really 1300ma. Tutoit on ebay I have 2x1500ma batteries for a 9.98$ shipped with a charger, I would get that instead.

yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290444598681#ht_1730wt_1137
or the 1800 and the charger for 11 50
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Battery...250661003311?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_3119wt_911

jayv1717 said:
Gonna try them out...not sure what i'm gonna get but for 13 bucks worth a try
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-2000mAh-Batt...330459330057?pt=PDA_Accessories#ht_4942wt_911
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I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?

Trident said:
I was just looking at this... seems like a great idea... the extra charger allows you to keep a second battery charged without using the EVO to do it. Even if it's really a lower rated battery... still a good deal.
Did you try it?
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I ordered it, but still waiting...those hong kong shipments take a while, i'll let you know as soon as I test it out
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I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.

so how are the batteries?

normally i would stay way from cheap Chinese crap on eBay, but with what i read here on the xda boards in regaurds t othe ok qualitybeing good enough that they might work out, so i ordered 2x1850 plus charger from ebay. i dont have time to do any real testing but i can say that:
1 not having to charge the battery from the phone is nice
2 i always have one on the charger, one in my pocket and one in the phone.
3 charging in the base seems to get me a better charge
4 i cant tell a difference between oem and knock offs, although you would think that the 1800's would last longer than the 1500oem but we know how that knock off crap goes. in my book if they are the same as oem, regardless as to what they claim and dont require a bigger back plate, then i guess that's good enough.

The 2 from tutoit or what ever the sellers name is work great last as long or longer then my stock battery. The charger also gives a better charge to the batteries then I get through my phone I'm talking extra hours when I charge with it.

ryohei47 said:
yeah, either get the 2 1500s and the charger for 11 50
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I got this and it's a good deal for the price.
The batteries aren't as good as oem. Probably last 75-80% as long.
The charger works well though and it's nice to have a couple extra batts laying around. I've only cycled them 4 or 5 times so I suppose the life could improve...time will tell.

rugedraw said:
I have a set of the 1500 mah batteries with the charger as was posted above, and I have no problem with them. I use my OEM battery most of the time, but sometimes it is handy to have some fully-charged back-ups. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between what my OEM battery lasts and the knock-offs. For the price, you can't beat it.
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I Have a number of Minor issues with mine. Must of gotten a bad set.
1) USB port on the charger does not output enough juice to charge the phone (Accually Locks it up until I unplug it)
2) Charger seems hit or miss on recharging the Stock Battery. I've left it plugged in all night and come back to ~20% charge when I pop it in a number of times
3) Random Screen cut off when charging the Replacements IN the phone.
So I only charge the Ghetto batteries in the charger provided.
That being said, I STILL think it's a great deal and more than happy with my purchase. I have 2 spare batteries for my phone (Or the wifes CDMA Hero) and a way to charge one w/o having to leave my phone behind (I don't have to babysit my phone for a charge, If someone walks out of the poker room or party with my charger and battery it's no big deal) The 2 China batts. are just emergency tanks, The Red one gets put back in as soon as I get home.

Best Purchase at twice the price.
Don't wait press the BUY NOW!!!!
Loved the first set so much that I purchased a second set 2 weeks later. I keep 1 set at work and 1 set at home. I always carrying a fully charged battery in plastic bag in my pocket. I love the EVO but hate the battery life. The first month I owned the EVO was hell for me having to carry a power charger and cable everywhere. I hated having to plug my phone in every time I found a power outlet worried if I didn't I may find myself without a phone when I needed it or having to fight everyone at the airports for power outlets. Now when I'm low on juice, I just switch batteries.... BUY NOW you'll never regret it....

I purchased 2 3500 batteries with new backs on e-bay for $22 and change. They work great I can go for over a day with fairly heavy usage.
Only minor problem was that with the phone thicker my silicone case doesn't fit as good. Extra weight no problem.

Yeah one thing I have learned from buying these types of batteries and charger is that they don't like to charge the OEM batteries but charge the cheapo ones just fine. I've noticed it on alot of things not just phone batteries.

buy it for the charger
i bought a 2000mAh that turned out to be a 900mAh so i would only buy it for the charger.

I wouldn't recommend the 2 x 1500 batteries plus charters the 1500's seem like a 1300 or a little less I would say try get the 1800 one from eBay they have a lot of auctions for them so all you gotta do is be patient and try to get for cheap that's what I'm tryin to do

Just ordered one of the 1800mah.. will see how this works out!
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1500mAh battery vs 1200mAh OEM

found this on ebay for the Aria/HD Mini
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-x1500mAh-Batt...ccessories&hash=item3361186c80#ht_5481wt_1044
do you think the 1500mAh is a big difference from the 1200 OEM?
I need opinions.

it's the same or worse then OEM.
but try it out. its cheap enough for a spare.

dexmix said:
it's the same or worse then OEM.
but try it out. its cheap enough for a spare.
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why is it the same or worse, not better?

no one has shown that those cheap batteries last any longer then an OEM battery.
It would be awesome if someone would prove they last longer - but many people say they last about the same or less.
If anything they are not very reliable... and will just up and die (as in will no longer charge).
you get what you pay for.

OK here is the answer that you are looking for. Don't waste your money on the Battery. mAh in a battery really comes down to battery design and how much of a charge the battery can hold. If you have a 1200 mAh battery and a 1500 mAh battery you should expect the 1500 battery to be larger in size and or a better design. Since I doubt that you can get a better design in such a low price and the OEM battery sells for roughly $40, don't waste your time and money buying those batteries off e-bay. You run a risk of the battery not working, and even worse with such a cheap design, you may even get a battery to 'leak' power too fast and you will end up frying your phone.

I bought a spare off eBay for 3$ works just fine but it does last about as long as the oem battery, I'd go almost as far to say its the same battery since it has all the same logos and certifications
Only cons are that I need about 3 of the batteries to last me through the day (data hog)
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I wonder if there is a lithium polymer battery for this phone
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cjtulowiecki said:
I wonder if there is a lithium polymer battery for this phone
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Aaah, somebody is drinking Steve Jobs' Cool Aid

I would love a better battery for this phone, however but since rooting my aria to froyo, ive only needed to charge up 2 times a day instead of 3 or 4.

tgpqaz said:
I would love a better battery for this phone, however but since rooting my aria to froyo, ive only needed to charge up 2 times a day instead of 3 or 4.
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What are you doing on the phone that makes you charge it so often?
I've only had mine for four days and still on the AT&T ROM, but in my normal use (Exchange sync, GMail, SMS, bluetooth & Market), I'm only charging it at night and even then, the battery gauge shows more than half full. I guess I'm not a heavy user.

haha, no you are definitely not a heavy user.
A heavy user can take the battery from full to empty in 4 hours of heavy data use, and even less time with heavy voice use.

Ok, that makes me feel better about having to charge mine during the day... now if I could find a longer cable so that I could actually use it while on the charger....

Here's a 15-foot cable for $2.02...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5460&seq=1&format=2
Monoprice is reputable too, so no worries about it being a cheap, low-quality cable.

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Here's a 15-foot cable for $2.02...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5460&seq=1&format=2
Monoprice is reputable too, so no worries about it being a cheap, low-quality cable.
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Monoprice FTW! I buy all my cables there. Excellent quality & fast shipping
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Beware e-bay batteries, Nothing but fail for me. The last time i got them was for my G1, it was a 2 pack, one was stone dead in a week, then they sent another replacement, and that and the remaining one were dead within a couple weeks.

Has anyone ever tried Mugen Battery on our Vibrants?

Has anyone ever tried Mugen extended 1600mAh battery on our phones? I'm thinking of getting on and I want to know if its worth it.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1600mah-extended-battery-for-samsung-galaxys-i9000.html

Why get a 1600mah when theres a 1650mah by T-Mobile?
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Because no one can find the friggin 1650s. Even the post dedicated to them doesn't have more than a dead ebay link for them.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.

why get the 1650 when u can get 2800 on amaZON for under 20.00 us?

Well anything higher than 1600mah will cause the phone to get really fat.
I posted link above.

fat battery
I got one of those fat batteries from amazon and it doesn't seem to last that much longer than a standard battery. It also makes the phone look pregnant.

I am using a 3.7VDC 3500mAh Li-ion Battery for my vibrant and it lasts me for 2 days and a half without charge, Of course the battery is a little bulkier then the normal 1500mAh, & it comes with a back Case, its worth the cost and its for only $16 Bucks on ebay. Its worth the money Sweet

deadly3kys said:
I am using a 3.7VDC 3500mAh Li-ion Battery for my vibrant and it lasts me for 2 days and a half without charge, Of course the battery is a little bulkier then the normal 1500mAh, & it comes with a back Case, its worth the cost and its for only $16 Bucks on ebay. Its worth the money Sweet
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I got mine yesterday, but did yours feel like it didn't work at first? Cause I feel like it doesn't work, but I heard its gonna work after a week.
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Well actually the battery was working fine when I received it. What you want to do is once you have the battey, deplete it till it fully drains out of power. Then recharge it with the charger they supplied you, don't charge it throu the phone. Once you see its fully charged. Chharge it for at least 1 hour more and u will get the full capacity of the battery. If your vibrant has a good kernel u will be set for 2 days straight. Hope that helps. Am using overstocked kernel

deadly3kys said:
Well actually the battery was working fine when I received it. What you want to do is once you have the battey, deplete it till it fully drains out of power. Then recharge it with the charger they supplied you, don't charge it throu the phone. Once you see its fully charged. Chharge it for at least 1 hour more and u will get the full capacity of the battery. If your vibrant has a good kernel u will be set for 2 days straight. Hope that helps. Am using overstocked kernel
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Oh okay, but the one I got only came with a battery and the back case for it, I don't know what you mean by "...charger they supplied you." Do you mean the Vibrant charger?
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Nabeel10 said:
Oh okay, but the one I got only came with a battery and the back case for it, I don't know what you mean by "...charger they supplied you." Do you mean the Vibrant charger?
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...he said dont charge it through the phone, which is the only way you can use the vibrant charger so that rules that one out, so by process of elimination and a lil bit of thinking the only option left is his came with a charger for the battery, probably a small dock type deal.
Just gotta think a little not too much to ask

i apologize for the late reply, I should of been more specific with the charger i was talking about. It is a USB/AC Wall charger for the Samsung Galaxy S i9000, Sprint Epic 4G, AT&T Captivate i897,T-Mobile Vibrant T959. You can view it on ebay, Amazon etc.

2100mah battery + charger from ebay

I recently bought a 2100mah battery and charger set off ebay for $8. Has anybody tried it yet? link
Its mainly just so I can have a backup battery and external charger but if it does last longer than stock battery that would be a nice bonus.
Edit: So this battery and charger came in a few weeks ago and both are working great. The battery life seems very similar to stock so I bet the actual capacity is around 1800. The charger works well, has a light that shows full charge and has a usb port on bottom for charging phone too. For my purposes I'm happy with this for now.
Edit2: After a few more weeks of occasional use this battery is definitely lower capacity than stock. My guess is around 1500 but no issues otherwise. The charger is working great though. Its nice to be able to charge battery out of phone and just pop in an extra battery in the meantime.

someguyatx said:
I recently bought a 2100mah battery and charger set off ebay for $8. Has anybody tried it yet? link
Its mainly just so I can have a backup battery and external charger but if it does last longer than stock battery that would be a nice bonus.
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Here's my thoughts:
It's $8 for a 300 mAh upgrade. Plus, its in Hong Kong, so I don't know how quick it would ship. (Assuming you live where I do, in the United States.)
2300 mAh upgrade from stock. $20.
If you do the math, the second one is a way better deal.
http://www.amazon.com/QCell-Samsung-4100mAh-Extended-Compatible/dp/B006TQOJXI`

Yeah I agree big battery is a better deal, but I don't want a fat case and a heavy phone. This is a spare battery and charger in my laptop bag in case I need it. Its been a week already so it should arrive within the next few days. I will post some info when it arrives.

Just so you know you get what your paying for. So if this cheap battery fries your phone your out of luck with any warranties.
Ps. Don't use cheap batteries they don't have the same safe internals as oem batteries!
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I have yet to find a battery that is extended life and same size as stock that works as advertised. Usually after a week or two they last as long as OEM batteries do. I even read a whole article a few months ago about it and it seems they're all crap after checking voltage throughout a month span.
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If u don't wanna buy a new battery you can download GO power manager.
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Bump, updated op