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Deleting System Apps

Rooted using Unrevoked. Have Root Explorer installed and Titanium. I know the system apps are in the folder: System/Apps When using Root Explorer I don't have the options. To uninstall the apps bit I can delete them. However, after deleting them the programs are still there. Same thing happens when I try to do it with Titanium. Is there something I'm overlooking?

System Apps do not get installed/uninstalled. Deleting them is all you need to to. However, since it appears you are still running the stock ROM you need to make sure you delete the corresponding odex file too.
I only had the stock ROM for about a day before I rooted and installed a different ROM (which was deodexed). BUT, I recall reading that both files need to be deleted.

I suggest that instead of deleting the files place them in a backup folder just in case you might need them later on. As mentioned before you must move the APK and its associated ODEX file if it has one. Sprint applications tend to be updated so uninstall the updates then move the Sprint applications using the aforementioned method.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. EVOke (v.) - Summon into action or bring into existence, often as if by magic.

so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!

SantinoInc said:
so i have to move the sprint apk files and odex files (if applicable) before I can delete them? I already tried deleting them w/o backing them up or changing their location but they keep coming back!
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Are you mounting the apps folder with "rw" privileges before deleting?

Yes, I am. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong. I swear to god these ****ing apps come right back after I reboot the phone. I delete them with Titanium and/or Root Explorer and after a little while they pop up again. I have no idea what is going on. I rooted with Unrevoked 3.21...maybe something didn't go right?
I also can't get BusyBox to install which is a major pain in da ass because so many apps need it

[Q] Fresh EVO 3.5 FM Radio

Hello all! I rooted my EVO last month, and am running the Fresh EVO 3.5 ROM. The developer removed many of the OEM "apps" including the FM radio. (I use quotes, because things like the FM radio aren't just apps... it's part of the functionality of the phone, and without it, you're removing a capability of the phone.)
In order to get it back, I tried installing from the SD card where he stored all the removed apps, which the developer himself says wouldn't work. No surprise, it didn't work. "Application not installed"
I moved it to system/app and tried to install, whence I'm again told "Application not installed."
Downloaded the .apk (found by searching some forums), moved it into system/app and tried installing it with the same result ("Application not installed").
Tried using "AppInstaller" on the .apk, same result.
I'm frustrated that this ROM, while great in every other respect, has killed some of the functionality of my phone. If someone could help me get the FM radio back, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you!

Try flashing this file from your recovery the same way you installed the Fresh ROM. It will install the HTC FM Radio app in your system/app. Without a zip file like this you would normally need to use an application like Root Explorer.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3000044/FM_Radio-FreshEvo-3.5.0.1-02142011.zip
P.S. Even though this is the app section its more for developing and modifying apps. In the future you should post basic questions like this in the Q&A section.

Thanks for the help and advice.
Your .zip did install the FM radio and widget files to the system/app folder, but they still will not install. I get the same message as I did before.
Also, I have Root Explorer - that's how I moved the .apk to the system/app folder in my original attempt.

I posted a tweaked apk in flipz's thread a few month's back that should install for you, by flashing from recovery. You can give it a shot as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9989719&postcount=7252

here you go, just flash

I guess I am not sure what issue you are having. I am running Fresh with out FM radio installed. I was able to use root explorer to move the file to system/app, then set the permissions, and reboot and once I was back into the launcher I was able to use the HTC radio app which was not there before. After doing that I restored my backup to before having the radio app installed and tried again using the zip file I supplied, rebooted, and I was able to use the app.

^ And for some reason, I was not able to do the same. The file was in system/app, but it would not install.
Toxin715 - Worked beautifully! Thank you!
Out of curiosity, do you have anything similar for the radio widget? I get the "Application not installed" error with that, as well... it's not as big of a deal, though.

Mathman85 said:
The file was in system/app, but it would not install.
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If you have moved the apk to /system/app on your phone you do not need to install it, just reboot.

Mathman85 said:
^ And for some reason, I was not able to do the same. The file was in system/app, but it would not install.
Toxin715 - Worked beautifully! Thank you!
Out of curiosity, do you have anything similar for the radio widget? I get the "Application not installed" error with that, as well... it's not as big of a deal, though.
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No problem, glad to help. Um you also need the widget?

Toxin715 said:
No problem, glad to help. Um you also need the widget?
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Lol, that's my zip...

brandenk said:
If you have moved the apk to /system/app on your phone you do not need to install it, just reboot.
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If that had been the case, I would've never bothered trying to install it, because "FM Radio" would've shown up in my apps and I'd have been happy to post that the issue was resolved. After rebooting when I had moved it to system/app with Root Explorer, it was not in my apps list, so I tried to install it (to no avail). Even after flashing the .zip you posted (after which I had to reboot to get out of recovery), it was in system/app, but not in my apps list; when I clicked on it in Root Explorer, I was given the "Application not installed" error. Even after flashing the .zip that Toxin715 and JsChiSurf posted, it was in system/app, but not in my apps list - the difference here was that when I went into Root Explorer and clicked on it, it let me install it, so now that issue is resolved.
Similarly, the widget is in system/app, but I assure you that I am not able to use the widget (I was going to post screen shots, but since I'm a n00b, the forum won't let me).
Toxin715 - Yes, if you could provide insight (or a .zip) for the widget, I'd be extremely grateful.
JsChiSurf - Thank you! I now see that it's your .zip, I just happened to try it directly from what Toxin715 had posted, so I didn't realize it at the time. Out of curiosity, what made your .zip any different from the others that I've tried and had no success with?
And open question to all who are reading - why would the app not show in my apps list if it is installed in system/app? Could something have gone wrong during the install of my ROM that perhaps a re-flash might correct?

Here's what I did to get it to work (using Root Explorer):
1) Copied HTCFMRadio.apk from fresh-removed-apks folder on my SD card
2) Navigated to system/app folder and clicked on "Mount R/W" button to make folder writable.
3) Pasted HTCFMRadio.app file in the system/app folder
4) Modified the permissions to match the other apps (rw-r--r--)
5) Rebooted the phone
That worked perfectly for me. I didn't modify the permissions at first and wasn't able to view the app in my app drawer. After I modified the permissions and rebooted, the app showed up as installed and worked perfectly.

Permanantly removing system apps

Hey guys if I'm posting this in the wrong section delete it
I've been trying to find an app for rooted devices to allow you to permantly remove system apps but haven't managed to come across 1 yet :/ does anybody know if there's an app that does this? What do you use?
I've seen the story's about the root managers etc but alot of people say the come back after a reboot?
Thanks dudes
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All you really need to do is delete the corresponding *.apk file in /system/app. I'm not 100% sure what the current android install process is, there might be some sort of registry system or framework installation that takes place elsewhere among the system; but deleting the .apk file has always worked fine for me.
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To do this you first have to have root access, which I assume you have. You then need to remount /system as r+w (read and write access, by default the /system mount is read only). You can do this with many an app from the Android Marketplace, just search for "remount".
This will then allow you to use your favorite root-enabled file browser, be it a terminal on your phone or something entirely different, to browse to /system/app and remove said *.apk file.
Let me know how you get on.

you must be rooted...and you can download any file explore to delete them
Edit: tolate he has better explanation
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Titanium Backup is the best choice. Make a backup of it first, then delete it. That way it'll save you a headache when you delete phone.apk by mistake.

Titanium backup is bull**** when removing system apps... It just freezes.... Try root uninstaller (free from market).. It takes seconds to uninstall system apps...
Sent from my HTC Desire HD

salarkhel said:
Titanium backup is bull**** when removing system apps... It just freezes.... Try root uninstaller (free from market).. It takes seconds to uninstall system apps...
Sent from my HTC Desire HD
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bull****? have you tried the uninstall option and actually looked through /system/app? I'm pretty sure the .apk you just uninstalled has disappeared.
but anyway, there are a number of ways to do this as the others above have helpfully explained

maatsby said:
bull****? have you tried the uninstall option and actually looked through /system/app? I'm pretty sure the .apk you just uninstalled has disappeared.
but anyway, there are a number of ways to do this as the others above have helpfully explained
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i can confirm that titanium works for this....

Thanks guys yea titanium works fine i can finally get rid off all the **** i don't want and use
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

Accidentally deleted stock Task Manager!!

So i just installed the new BM 5.0 and i was deleting unwanted apps via Titanium Backup pro .. i was doing it so fast that i accidentally deleted task manager! now everytime i click on the widget "Active Application" it fore closes! i tried to look for the stock task manager in the app store but could not find it! is there a way to undo the delete without doing a nandroid restore?

Use the feature in Titanium that can pull apks from cwm backups. You should be able to fix it with that.

moondrius said:
Use the feature in Titanium that can pull apks from cwm backups. You should be able to fix it with that.
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thank u for your response! But i do not know how to do this feature you speak of, mind teaching me? thanks

schgittyfour said:
thank u for your response! But i do not know how to do this feature you speak of, mind teaching me? thanks
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1) Open TB
2) Go to Backup/Restore
3) Option soft key
4) More
5) Extract from Nandroid backup
6) Pick Task Manager
I personally tried it once and it didn't work for me, worst comes to worst I'll upload you the JobManager.apk (I assume that's the one you're talking about? The Samsung task manager?). But I assume it works, otherwise they wouldn't include the feature.

yoft1 said:
1) Open TB
2) Go to Backup/Restore
3) Option soft key
4) More
5) Extract from Nandroid backup
6) Pick Task Manager
I personally tried it once and it didn't work for me, worst comes to worst I'll upload you the JobManager.apk (I assume that's the one you're talking about? The Samsung task manager?). But I assume it works, otherwise they wouldn't include the feature.
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i tried those steps and did not find task manager .. i guess it wasnt backed up ... but i do have a scheduled back up every sundays ....i think its the samsung task manager, the icon was a pie graph .... it would be awesome sauce if u could upload it for me

schgittyfour said:
i tried those steps and did not find task manager .. i guess it wasnt backed up ... but i do have a scheduled back up every sundays ....i think its the samsung task manager, the icon was a pie graph .... it would be awesome sauce if u could upload it for me
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http://min.us/mj9kYFJoR
To install it, you'll need a file explorer with root access (ES File Explorer, ROOT File Explorer, etc.). Then you'll have to move it to /system/app (to get to /system you'll have to go one level up from /sdcard to get to the root folder /). Make the permissions read "rw- r-- r--" (how you do that depends on what file explorer you use) and then reboot. Should fix the issue.

yoft1 said:
http://min.us/mj9kYFJoR
To install it, you'll need a file explorer with root access (ES File Explorer, ROOT File Explorer, etc.). Then you'll have to move it to /system/app (to get to /system you'll have to go one level up from /sdcard to get to the root folder /). Make the permissions read "rw- r-- r--" (how you do that depends on what file explorer you use) and then reboot. Should fix the issue.
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the file does not exist or it is unavailable...

schgittyfour said:
the file does not exist or it is unavailable...
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I'm guessing you're doing it from your phone? Minus has a quirk with mobile sites. Download it from your computer or change your user agent to desktop.

yoft1 said:
I'm guessing you're doing it from your phone? Minus has a quirk with mobile sites. Download it from your computer or change your user agent to desktop.
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Who needs a pc nowadays anyways? hehe .... downloaded it with Dolphin browser and it worked, will let u know if this works!

so i am trying to move it to system/app ... but its saying it cant move because the file is read only..... im using Root Explorer btw....

schgittyfour said:
so i am trying to move it to system/app ... but its saying it cant move because the file is read only..... im using Root Explorer btw....
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It'll be an option in root explorer along the lines of "root access". I don't know the exact process because I use ES. Play around in the settings of root explorer until you find it. By default it's disabled to prevent users from actually screwing with their system operating system without knowing what they're doing.

did not find anything under settings but there was a button that said Mount R/O or Mount R/W ... so i selected the file to move then i went to system/app thrn i clicked the mount button on the top and it worked! Thank u so much for ur help and fast responds! u really saved mr from alot of grief.

schgittyfour said:
did not find anything under settings but there was a button that said Mount R/O or Mount R/W ... so i selected the file to move then i went to system/app thrn i clicked the mount button on the top and it worked! Thank u so much for ur help and fast responds! u really saved mr from alot of grief.
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Yeah it's the same thing, you're just allowing the system position to be written to. No problem. Is your task manager working as usual now?

yoft1 said:
Yeah it's the same thing, you're just allowing the system position to be written to. No problem. Is your task manager working as usual now?
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Yes it seems to be working lime its suppose to! But i wonder why its called Job Manager, and what i deleted was named Task Manager...?

schgittyfour said:
Yes it seems to be working lime its suppose to! But i wonder why its called Job Manager, and what i deleted was named Task Manager...?
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Not sure. Android has a native task manager other than the Samsung one so that might have anything to do with it

yoft1 said:
Not sure. Android has a native task manager other than the Samsung one so that might have anything to do with it
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thanks again!

so it seems like my task manager is having issues .. most of the time when i open it via "active applications" , its frozen, like i am unable to press anything ..i have to reboot always to make it work. budo u know how to fix this?

schgittyfour said:
so it seems like my task manager is having issues .. most of the time when i open it via "active applications" , its frozen, like i am unable to press anything ..i have to reboot always to make it work. budo u know how to fix this?
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Was it working fine when you first installed it? Either way, there's always 5 generic steps you should always take first when trying to resolve an issue:
1) clear application data
2) reboot to recovery and clear cache
3) clear dalvik cache
4) fix permissions
5) reboot
See if that fixes your issues

yoft1 said:
Was it working fine when you first installed it? Either way, there's always 5 generic steps you should always take first when trying to resolve an issue:
1) clear application data
2) reboot to recovery and clear cache
3) clear dalvik cache
4) fix permissions
5) reboot
i will try this and let u know! thanks
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it seem to have fixed the problem....thanks! .

bloatware removal not working

As the title says, it's giving me hell. I even go to the APK location in root browser and delete but it doesn't ever go away. And on top of that, titanium backup "cannot locate APK file" so I can't use that either but things can freeze in TB.
I am on stock room and obviously with root. I can't figure it out. Any help is appreciated!

Josh McGrath said:
As the title says, it's giving me hell. I even go to the APK location in root browser and delete but it doesn't ever go away. And on top of that, titanium backup "cannot locate APK file" so I can't use that either but things can freeze in TB.
I am on stock room and obviously with root. I can't figure it out. Any help is appreciated!
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if you are using magisk look for the module called terminal debloater.

mattlowry said:
if you are using magisk look for the module called terminal debloater.
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I tried that and it doesn't show any of the bloat in either folder option.

Not a glamorous option but there used to be a launcher; Nova, Go, Apex, ADW, one of those would allow you to just delete bloatware like any other app.

41rw4lk said:
Not a glamorous option but there used to be a launcher; Nova, Go, Apex, ADW, one of those would allow you to just delete bloatware like any other app.
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Hmm I'll try that, I mean the worst could happen is it wouldn't work and I'd just delete the app.

Josh McGrath said:
I tried that and it doesn't show any of the bloat in either folder option.
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what apps are you trying to get rid of?

From my experience TB can't deinstall apps located in the priv-app folder with said error message but going there with root explorer mounting system r/w and deleting the respective priv-app folder get's rid of these apps.
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As the title says, it's giving me hell. I even go to the APK location in root browser and delete but it doesn't ever go away. And on top of that, titanium backup "cannot locate APK file" so I can't use that either but things can freeze in TB.
I am on stock room and obviously with root. I can't figure it out. Any help is appreciated!
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regenwurm16 said:
From my experience TB can't deinstall apps located in the priv-app folder with said error message but going there with root explorer mounting system r/w and deleting the respective priv-app folder get's rid of these apps.
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A lot of the bloat on this phone is nestled in /oem instead of priv-app.

Thanks for the help guys but I got bootlooped yet again by trying to mount rw with root explorer so I just went to AOSiP for now.
And signal is terrible with aosip so I'm going back to stock again . so I guess I'll just have to freeze the bloat with TB unless someone has a better method . this phone is weird