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[Q] Tablet

It seems like there are different kinds. I mentioned one to my mom and told her it would be nice to have one along side my Evo so she's going to get me and her both one on Wednesday. Which should I get or which have better specs and can be rooted?

I was going to get an Android tablet but ended up getting an iPad instead. IMO, Android just isn't ready to be on a tablet. I'm sure when Honeycomb comes around I will get an Android tab but until then, it's the iPad for me.

_MetalHead_ said:
I was going to get an Android tablet but ended up getting an iPad instead. IMO, Android just isn't ready to be on a tablet. I'm sure when Honeycomb comes around I will get an Android tab but until then, it's the iPad for me.
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Would you mind telling me what you think pros and cons are with getting either or?

I dunno, i went and checked out the galaxy tab and aside from just feeling like a cheap piece of crap (in classic samsung fashion) the software just didn't feel right. Scrolling was choppy, and it just seemed like an over grown Android phone. I saw no point in getting it when I already have my EVO, and really couldn't justify the purchase in my mind.
On the flip side, the iPad just feels like a quality product, it has a gorgeous screen that scrolls incredibly smoothly, and it feels completely polished. There is beauty in the simplicity of the OS, and it has grown on me immensely. The apps on it are far superior to what is found on android, and the games are pretty dam awesome. Considering that the two were similarly priced, it really was a no brainer for me.
Keep in mind, I am an Android fanboy, and up until I purchased my iPad, I badmouthed apple products every chance I got. Now that I have the iPad, I cannot deny that as far as tablets are concerned, iOS is far superior to Android. Android still smokes iOS in the phone department though.
I do have very high hopes for Honeycomb though.

Thanks I'll see if I can play with both and I wan't to make the right decision because I don't want to buy one and a new software gets release and the other is better. I keep things for a long time so it's more like an investment. Thanks for your response.
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I dunno, i went and checked out the galaxy tab and aside from just feeling like a cheap piece of crap (in classic samsung fashion) the software just didn't feel right. Scrolling was choppy, and it just seemed like an over grown Android phone. I saw no point in getting it when I already have my EVO, and really couldn't justify the purchase in my mind.
On the flip side, the iPad just feels like a quality product, it has a gorgeous screen that scrolls incredibly smoothly, and it feels completely polished. There is beauty in the simplicity of the OS, and it has grown on me immensely. The apps on it are far superior to what is found on android, and the games are pretty dam awesome. Considering that the two were similarly priced, it really was a no brainer for me.
Keep in mind, I am an Android fanboy, and up until I purchased my iPad, I badmouthed apple products every chance I got. Now that I have the iPad, I cannot deny that as far as tablets are concerned, iOS is far superior to Android. Android still smokes iOS in the phone department though.
I do have very high hopes for Honeycomb though.
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You know If theres one thing I'm getting tired of is hearing that Android is not ready for a tablet of what ever. In many ways my phone is more functional than my home windows PC.
Yeah some apps will look silly with only a few big buttons on the screen. But those apps are NOT meant to do 80 million things, they are meant to do one thing really well. And in all seriousness do you spend any real amount of time in apps like that right now on your phone?
There a fair amount of apps that would scale really nice. Like I use Pulse for my news and I think that would look great on a 7in-10in screen. Most of the apps people would use a tablet for they would be fine, like the browsers, email, weather, news apps, ereaders, and even a lot of the games(Angry birds, air hockey etc)
My other thing to note in this is that most of the time people spend on a home computer is using a internet browser. most of the apps I use are just shortcuts to webpages(think about it for a minute) or game's which there a ton of flash games also.
Theres a whole lot more tablets out there than just the Tab and Ipad, Archos makes some cool ones. then theres the chinse ones that are really cheap(under $200). But what your going to hit is in a couple months anything you buy now is going to be junk compared to all the dual core monsters that are going to be coming.
If you want one you can root there are forums just for tablets, and they can help guide you which ones you can root. I remember reading that theres a couple of the cheap ones people have been able to put CM on.

I played with the galaxy tab today and was not impressed. I imagined apps optimized for the tab but they were exactly the same as on my EVO. I'm going to get the Notion Adam Ink tablet.
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You know If theres one thing I'm getting tired of is hearing that Android is not ready for a tablet of what ever. In many ways my phone is more functional than my home windows PC.
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Not trying to upset anyone, just stating my opinion. 2.2 on a tablet does not feel right to me, it leaves me wanting more. It really makes the thing feel like an oversized Android phone.
gqstatus0685 said:
I played with the galaxy tab today and was not impressed. I imagined apps optimized for the tab but they were exactly the same as on my EVO. I'm going to get the Notion Adam Ink tablet.
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I've been following that Notion Adam tab and it does look VERY nice, but there is something sketchy about that company's whole operation. I was considering preordering it but I am just going to wait until it actually comes out (if it ever does) and if the reviews are good, I'm going to snatch one up.

_MetalHead_ said:
I dunno, i went and checked out the galaxy tab and aside from just feeling like a cheap piece of crap (in classic samsung fashion) the software just didn't feel right. Scrolling was choppy, and it just seemed like an over grown Android phone. I saw no point in getting it when I already have my EVO, and really couldn't justify the purchase in my mind.
On the flip side, the iPad just feels like a quality product, it has a gorgeous screen that scrolls incredibly smoothly, and it feels completely polished. There is beauty in the simplicity of the OS, and it has grown on me immensely. The apps on it are far superior to what is found on android, and the games are pretty dam awesome. Considering that the two were similarly priced, it really was a no brainer for me.
Keep in mind, I am an Android fanboy, and up until I purchased my iPad, I badmouthed apple products every chance I got. Now that I have the iPad, I cannot deny that as far as tablets are concerned, iOS is far superior to Android. Android still smokes iOS in the phone department though.
I do have very high hopes for Honeycomb though.
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Which version of the galaxy tab did you try? I tried verizon and sprint. Verizon version had the touch wiz ui that clearly no one likes.it's true what you said cuz the verizon version was really choppy and sluggish. On the other hand the sprint version was stock and ran really smooth. But I'm holding off on purchasing a tablet cuz the processor both ipad and galaxy tab have are mobile processor, I'd much prefer a tegra 2
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wang1404 said:
Which version of the galaxy tab did you try? I tried verizon and sprint. Verizon version had the touch wiz ui that clearly no one likes.it's true what you said cuz the verizon version was really choppy and sluggish. On the other hand the sprint version was stock and ran really smooth. But I'm holding off on purchasing a tablet cuz the processor both ipad and galaxy tab have are mobile processor, I'd much prefer a tegra 2
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Pretty sure I tried a Verizon one, a Sprint one AND an At&t one and was not impressed with any of them. Don't really remember seeing the TouchWiz UI on any of them but in all fairness I really didn't spend too much time with them. It really only took a few seconds for me to decide that the Galaxy Tab was not what I was looking for.

I've been using a Galaxy Tab from Sprint for about a month now, and have no complaints. It has excellent battery life, and the UI is buttery smooth.
I like the fact that the SD card slot is on the outside, so I can remove it at anytime. I loaded two seasons of The Office on it, and it's great to watch on the Tab's screen.
It is essentially an oversized EVO, and most folks say that iOS beats Android when it comes to games and apps, but it's still a great device with tons of versatility. I have only one item that I wish would be added: an external USB port.
That being said, I would wait until either the new iPad is released or until a Honeycomb tablet is on the market.

iPad or wait for a decent Android Tab. Not to suggest the Galaxy Tab isn't worth it ... I would have suggested getting it when it first came out if someone needed an Android tab.
I hate it as I really want a tab but I couldn't justify buying / suggesting what is available now.
Hell, even buying an iPad right now - with how long it's been out and Apple's usual cycle of new products / releases - I would think that'd be a foolish plan too. And if it's an Android tab ... things are about to get real in 2011.

Well I might be getting a Sprint Galaxy tab for xmass.
I won't turn it away

Wow. I'm shocked nobody has mentioned the "adam" it's a notion ink tablet. It is by far the best upcoming tablet. They have some pretty sweet video demonstrations of the UI on youtube. It is definitely worth a look, oh yeah it is shipping with android 2.3 and the specs are fantastic
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Nook Color
If you want a cheap alternative ($250.00)that is pretty good and has the best screen out there for tabs check out the Nook Color from B&N. Some XDA guys are doing some amazing things with it already. I have mine rooted with the market and all. This will at least hold me over till next year when the Moto and HTC powerhouse tabs hit the market.

JSZESZE said:
Wow. I'm shocked nobody has mentioned the "adam" it's a notion ink tablet. It is by far the best upcoming tablet. They have some pretty sweet video demonstrations of the UI on youtube. It is definitely worth a look, oh yeah it is shipping with android 2.3 and the specs are fantastic
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That was mentioned on the first page.

Yeah I was thinking of getting my g/f the nook color and rooting it. Placed some calls through craigslist so hoping to meet up today.
Android isn't ready to be on a tablet yet but it's for my g/f so she won't care.

jerrygon said:
If you want a cheap alternative ($250.00)that is pretty good and has the best screen out there for tabs check out the Nook Color from B&N. Some XDA guys are doing some amazing things with it already. I have mine rooted with the market and all. This will at least hold me over till next year when the Moto and HTC powerhouse tabs hit the market.
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I agree...I'm sure HTC will have the mac daddy tablet at some point.
I will be perfectly satisfied with the Galaxy Tab though, especially when the custom roms start coming out.
That's not to say this will be my last tablet!

Galaxy S II with WP7 ahhh

Granted I haven't had my hand on the new Samsung Galaxy SII but looking at (I hate to say engadget review on the hardware) I think this would be an ultimate flagship design for wp7 (I know the processor hasn't been approved) but man that device looks nice and I have been very happy with my focus for a while now I am wanting this bad boy (am I bad I have had an HTC for the last 6yrs).

Mental diarrhea sprayed onto an XDA post. Nice work!

dreaming is not diarrhea lol
The Os performs great with the current standards if they are going to make a tiered version (which they will if Nokia intends on making a low cost wp7) why not make a high dollar one?

Yes its android its gud
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Actually, watching the video on Engadget, it still lags (Android I mean)...

Yes, GS2 with WP7 FTW!
I think GS2 is currently the ultimate phone.

amtrakcn said:
Yes, GS2 with WP7 FTW!
I think GS2 is currently the ultimate phone.
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Yeah, the specs are nice...but it's ugly, as was the Galaxy S
Why can't the do a design like the Galaxy S had in the Gorgio Armani edition? Or something like the SE X10?
The Omnia7 is the only Samsung high-end phone that looks good (could be better but at least it has edges and isn't rounded everywhere).

skycamefalling said:
Yeah, the specs are nice...but it's ugly, as was the Galaxy S
Why can't the do a design like the Galaxy S had in the Gorgio Armani edition? Or something like the SE X10?
The Omnia7 is the only Samsung high-end phone that looks good (could be better but at least it has edges and isn't rounded everywhere).
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So you like Captivate

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So you like Captivate
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Yeah, that one looks like the Armani Edition -really nice. I may have ended up with Android when the Galaxy S in Austria looked like this. So I waited for a decent phone and finally ended up with the Omnia7...it has been a good decision after all

kapanak said:
Actually, watching the video on Engadget, it still lags (Android I mean)...
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if you notice, he's doing a full screen screen capture, while using the camera, with sound, in720p, I wouldn't call that lag, I'd call it awesome.

ohgood said:
if you notice, he's doing a full screen screen capture, while using the camera, with sound, in720p, I wouldn't call that lag, I'd call it awesome.
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I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.

domineus said:
I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.
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What I was saying/hinting in order to make a statement (which don't get me wrong everyone including my girl that I have let play with my wp7 want one and thats coming from iphone/android). But at the gym last night there was a guy with a attrix with a wp7 skin and I slapped him (silly foul for fun) because he was false claiming lol (forgive me its Friday). But really they need a wow factor phone because basically alot of people just buy for specs I hate to say (like people @ the gym I workout at) all they talk about is my phone has a 5-8mp camera and a dual processor blah blah, and I just said my phone works and quite well.

domineus said:
I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.
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ahhhhh, ok i see it! I wonder if that is a beta hardware, or what version software its running. oddly, I haven't used a ota update or stock rom since the 1.x days. lag is something I just haven't experienced since then... and it puzzles me when I see so many commnets about it really.,

Lag has been the signature of Samsung Galaxy S. It remains to be seen that if S2 can improve on that. The reasons are two folds:
1. The Android OS's own problem (lack of hardware accel and poor garbage collection)
2. Samsung's insistence of using its antiquated RFS file system which is significantly worse than the common ext2 or 4 file system.
And there is really on dual-core support in Android OS in the immediate future. The Dalvik VM used in Android is single core only. Currently only the tablet OS, Honeycomb, supports dual-core.
In the end, what a waste of that beautiful hardware!

Nice work。。。。

Would love this with WP7.

You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.

vetvito said:
You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.
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we did hence the discussion about the LAG. Look I like the specs myself because they would make any developer salivate and want to at least test it for a spell - myself included. But even still, lag is lag and it's there.
We can call out all of wp inconsistencies till the cow comes home but do it to android its a fight. It's a pretty rational discussion about the SII and there have been no flames. Us, just like you, have watched the video and read the reviews. Let's not assume no one hasn't
And there is really on dual-core support in Android OS in the immediate future. The Dalvik VM used in Android is single core only. Currently only the tablet OS, Honeycomb, supports dual-core.
In the end, what a waste of that beautiful hardware!
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Technically most android d/cs...
for the moment again until something at android changes

A slight jerk one time, is that considered lag?

vetvito said:
You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.
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My hd7 is lagy and inernet browsing is pain full with ie ****

My main reason for considering the Nexus

No not the screen but the fact it is pure Android. Boy do I hate manufacturer or networks OS glossy coatings or add-ons, I have yet to meet one I actually liked. At least on the Arc they are fairly light weight. The one thing I admire in iOS is that Apple don't let any of the networks muck around with their software, if only Google was the same.
The other thing related to this I like is the rapid update cycle, none of this lets wait around while we add on all our OS add-ons nonsense.

Super Chimp said:
No not the screen but the fact it is pure Android. Boy do I hate manufacturer or networks OS glossy coatings or add-ons, I have yet to meet one I actually liked. At least on the Arc they are fairly light weight. The one thing I admire in iOS is that Apple don't let any of the networks muck around with their software, if only Google was the same.
The other thing related to this I like is the rapid update cycle, none of this lets wait around while we add on all our OS add-ons nonsense.
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thats pretty much the only reason anyone gets a Nexus

Well apple has its own muck. Served the way they want to serve it to you. But yeah, the nexus line of phones are not the latest and greatest in specs and i cant figure out why some people think it is. The big catch all with google phones is pure android and the developer support it gets. Google gives a great base foundation to build on software wise and that im sure is a big reason so many developers flock to it. The latest phone still has some question marks on it but they will be answered. Bigtime.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

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thats pretty much the only reason anyone gets a Nexus
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The only reason I dumped the Nexus One was because of its reception problems, OS wise it was probably, aside from my Arc, the best Android device I have used. I bet in real life use the Nexus will feel quicker than the GS2, not because of its hardware but because it isn't bogged down with the ever lovely Touchwiz!

I got a SE Xperia X8 (big piece of crap, has kinda good (unofficial; damn SE) support; Nothing to do with current smartphones, even the ones of equal tier) and I really need an upgrade. I got mine just like... 6 months ago, less than that, maybe, but I already feel it being weak and crappy.
Anyway, I got a friend who has the NS (Nexus S) and it runs like a BEAST! It probably can stand up to the Samsung GSII. That's why I want a Nexus. It might not have state-of-the-art hardware, but it's surely WAY better than mine and it's a Nexus. The Nexus line has a huge back end, lots and lots of developers, not to talk about direct Google support and CyanogenMod versions. Most devices' CyanogenMod builds are ports of the Google Phones.
The problem to me getting it is the fact that I got mine sort of recently and the price. I might have to wait for a price cut, or not.
I think ICS looks really really really damn sexy. I like the enchanting blue-ish theme of it. If people get it from the release, there isn't going to be much to it. Just a new OS with a few bugs. It's like getting a Beta phone. But those bugs will be corrected in a matter of a couple of weeks, I strongly believe. It's still a great update.
It will take a while to see good developing for the GN (1, 2 months... maybe more), I guess. It's a matter of seeing what is going to happen. I kinda see the ICS as a re-vamp of all the previous versions, with some really cool features of course. I say it's a great advancement.

precisely. i will say, when the nexus one came out it leapfrogged pretty much everything out there. it seems to me people keep wanting another nexus one type of one up when it comes to specs, but in reality the fact that it's google's baby offsets a fair number of spec sheet "shortcomings".
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Let's see. Gorgeous screen (FU everyone crying about PenTile), ICS, no external buttons, guaranteed timely updates, a developer's dream, it's a winner all over.
I don't care if it's not the beefiest phone, spec-wise. It's fully unlocked and built for ICS. Any phones that get ICS later will still have to deal with having softkeys that don't need to be there any more.

SomeGuyDude said:
Let's see. Gorgeous screen (FU everyone crying about PenTile), ICS, no external buttons, guaranteed timely updates, a developer's dream, it's a winner all over.
I don't care if it's not the beefiest phone, spec-wise. It's fully unlocked and built for ICS. Any phones that get ICS later will still have to deal with having softkeys that don't need to be there any more.
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Unless I misunderstood the concept, you still have the volume rocket and the Power Button (virtually 3 buttons)

Yup, timely updates are the reason I am going with the galaxy nexus, i love quick updates and hate oem customisations.
Also the hardware is nice.
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Unless I misunderstood the concept, you still have the volume rocket and the Power Button (virtually 3 buttons)
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He meant no buttons directly tied to the os. The nokia n9 has power and volume rocker buttons still but no other buttons attached directly to os functions.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

same reason here...
1st to have the updates... coming from a ****ty LG...
pure android. no bugs...

K.D.M. said:
same reason here...
1st to have the updates... coming from a ****ty LG...
pure android. no bugs...
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no bugs? you spray raid on your phone. try again. i'm sure we'll run across some critters and hopefully google and cyanogen will address them quickly.

Simple, stock Android UI. Likely to have Cyanogen. Pentaband radios.
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veyka said:
Yup, timely updates are the reason I am going with the galaxy nexus, i love quick updates and hate oem customisations.
Also the hardware is nice.
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The Nexus One had was a veritable torrent of updates compared to other Android devices I have had. Also there didn't seem much delay in updates in geographical sense, in that didn't seem to matter that I was in the UK rather than the US.

=> USB Host feature to connect an external USB DAC, an external USB hard drive ...
and the large screen: easier to read

I will change from the SGS II to the NG because of this reasons.
-Pure Android (a SGS II stock ROM is mostly around 300 MB CyanogenMOD is 100 MB)
-better development base
-updates
-screen
-curved screen (I miss my Nexus S while doing a call the SGS II is so flat...)
Especially the pure part is important so devs don't have to fix the stupid **** from the manufacturers like a lagging browser when you deodex a SGS II stock ROM...

same reason here, to have the updates... coming from a ****ty LG...never, never again...
pure android... can't wait

Stock ICS & new hardware. I'd really like an external SD & 8MP, but hey, I'm ready to upgrade from my dInc.

My reason is that crazy sexy screen, and the development base here on xda. I know if there are any problems our great developers here will fix them and make this phone smoother than Google and Samsung could ever imagine.
Side note, so this CPU Max clock is 1.8, correct? Can't wait to have it running on that.
(Btw I buy extra battery's and switch throughout the day as they die. Why have a crazy phone if your going to be worried about battery life? Just put up some more $$ and have more fun with your phone...IMHO)
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I thought you can get pure android on any phone thanks to XDA and that includes rapid updates. I usually go by the looks and the hardware, rather than the software, which I will replace anyway.

[Q] Why bother?

SKIP TO THE BOTTOM FOR THE QUESTION
I really like the idea of the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm a former Nexus One user, I still have it in the box it came in with the Desktop dock and Car dock too. I'm holding on to it for ever!!!
I passed on the Nexus S because I didn't want a Samsung Phone. I love the way HTC makes their phones. I bought into the hype about their phones feeling "cheap" and "plasticy".
I decided to replace my N1 with a Sensation which has been a pretty big disappointment.
When the GN was announced I decided to swallow my dislike for Samsung's phones and go for it. After reading about the specs it seemed like a decent phone, Nothing groundbreaking just decent maybe even a little sub par when compared to some of the top of the line phones. The only really stand out things about it are the software, which most of the top tier phones will be getting upgraded to at some point.
NFC? It's cool but I can't see using it that much. I think I've run into one other person that was using a Nexus phone and I didn't care to swap info with them. I'd probably pay for stuff with it but I still have to carry a wallet so it's not going to replace my debit card.
Camera? 5mp that's less than 8mp seems like a pretty big step down from what every "top tier" phone out there. Hopefully the low light performance will be really good but somehow I'm expecting disappointment.
Big Screen? I love it big, but then I read about the Galaxy Note.
Pure Google? I've been there with everything up to Gingerbread and I have to say it was barren. I'm on sense now and I've tried (a few times) giving it up to use ADW to get that stock launcher experience I didn't last long. Compared to Sense 3 (I think) Gingerbread is VERY ugly and misses out on a lot of niceties that I've grown accustomed to in Sense.
At least it'll probably get updates first.
It seems like every time I turn around some company is releasing a phone that bests the GN in every way, SGSII, RAZOR and today I read freaking LG has got a phone with a killer display more pixels or something like that.
With that in mind how do you keep your excitement up about this phone?

when it comes to phones, its the software that makes the device, not the hardware......with a Nexus device you will always be on the latest and greatest, nothing is more frustrating to me than to be behind 1 or 2 software releases

Megapixels in cameras are not everything.
The support on Nexus phones is unparalleled. Samsung make good phones. I would get over the plastic hate and get the Nexus. You are on the Nexus forum so you clearly want us to talk you into it

That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.

jivemaster said:
Megapixels in cameras are not everything.
The support on Nexus phones is unparalleled. Samsung make good phones. I would get over the plastic hate and get the Nexus. You are on the Nexus forum so you clearly want us to talk you into it
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I'm totally here to be talked into it .
I will totally admit to unfairly jumping on the "Samsung makes cheap feeling phones" bandwagon. HTC phones have weight, Samsung phones are light.
Yes Megapixels aren't everything but they do count for something.

Ironzey said:
That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
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Of course they're getting updated, but they'll be updated 3+ months after the Galaxy Nexus comes out.

That Samsung build quality stigma is FUD. Is all plastic, but my nexus s is the most solid feeling phone I've had. Light and rigid. I've dropped it on tile and wood floor and keep it in my pocket with no protection except that it's by itself. It still looks mint with zero screen scratches since March.
Don't buy into the megapixel myth. The sensor quality and optics are more important. 5mp is more than any cell phone needs, and provides plenty of resolution for larger prints. most use cases are social networking which does not need even a fraction of that resolution. Wait to see camera reviews and comparisons after people get their hands on shipping product.
You do sound a little confused about what phone you want. There's plenty of good products from various manufacturers with good qualities. What you will get from the GN is vanilla Android, timely updates, a solid all-around performer from a hardware standpoint (maybe not the best at any one aspect, but a formidable complete experience), and the warm fuzzies that super geek Android fans get for nexus devices. That may not be right for you, but that's what it is.
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My first android phone was the Droid X, I loved it as am android noob, then I rooted, then I flashed my first ROM, then CM7 came out for the DX, then I dropped it in a puddle... I was pretty disappointed when my insurance sent me an X2 as a replacement, but I've made it the most enjoyable I can by making my own ROM for it. Now I realize Moto will never stop locking their phones and hardware specs aren't everything, its about the software, which is why I'm 90% sure I'm going to be picking up the Gnex when my upgrade comes at the end of January. I've never owned a Samsung phone and am still skeptical about the build quality, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised when I buy it
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What do people equate to build quality?
Do you know a phone that people says has the best build quality?
The iPhone 4 and 4s
Do you know what phone when drops shatters?
Thats right the iPhone 4 and 4s.
Judging build quality by feel alone is stupid. Quality means the grade of the materials used and how they are used. A plastic phone using really good plastic is a higher quality phone then a shattering glass phone.

Lil Jones said:
Do you know a phone that people says has the best build quality?
The iPhone 4 and 4s
Do you know what phone when drops shatters?
Thats right the iPhone 4 and 4s.
Judging build quality by feel alone is stupid. Quality means the grade of the materials used and how they are used. A plastic phone using really good plastic is a higher quality phone then a shattering glass phone.
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The iPhone 4 and 4S are extremely high quality. They're just... made out of glass. Obviously they're going to break when you drop them. Just like a window will break when you throw a cinder block at it. That doesn't mean the window is low quality....

Their reinforced glass is not as good as gorilla glass, I heard.

The one aspect that people seem to be taking for granted also is that because of all these specs and the Nexus name. Galaxy Nexus is going to have a much larger developer following for rooted customization. Also, when you are looking for a new product what better way to narrow down what to get than to ask an expert...well, developers largely choose Nexus.
(Before someone attacks me with the typical response "not everyone wants to root ". No not everyone does. This was Simply offered as one more possitive to add to the Nexus checklist. )
When it comes down to it. everyone should buy what they want cause no one else cares.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

You don't buy the Nexus for the hardware. If my Nexus One would have worked on Verizon I would still be using it.

Let's be honest, if you're regularly browsing this site, chances are you're atleast toying with the idea of rooting the device (if not in the, "The thing will be rooted before I get a text" category).
The Megapixel hype is just that. It's kind of like America's fascination with horsepower -- yes your GT500 outputs crazy numbers, but it still can't turn.
-insert flaming-

Nother Sensation owner here waiting to bounce on the GN for dev support. I will run CM9 or a MiUI ICS variant more than likely. I'd prefer to have the most choice for kernels and roms over slightly better hardware. Do we really need 4 cores in a phone?

Ironzey said:
That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
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No, that still is the case. Even though a manufacture says they will release an update it will never be timely. As manufactures produce more and more models of phones their support goes down the drain. My Samsung Vibrant never got an official update that was promised. The thunderbolt finally got gingerbread.
My G1 was my favorite phone. Great support by htc, google and devs. It always had the latest version of android, even when its hardware could barely run it.
I would rather have a well supported phone than the highest spec phone. While the galaxy nexus appears to have average hardware it will have great android support and dev support.

Availability of developers.
CAN'T STAND OS delays.
Beautiful bezel.
No HD screen + RGB notification combos on Tmo.
That's if this retarded phone ever comes out for Tmo.

Inused to be HTC supporter. But after I got The old Desire, I vowed to not get any HTC anymore. I dislike Sense and replaced with LP pro.
Then I got the Nexus S, and feel really like the design and overal feeling. All blacks, with super Amoled, seems elegant and mysterious.
And it is much lighter as well.
On top of that Qualcomm is not as fast as Hummingbird, Exynos, or now TI Omap.
Nuff said, no HTC anymore.
Nexus phone all the way
Ironzey said:
SKIP TO THE BOTTOM FOR THE QUESTION
I really like the idea of the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm a former Nexus One user, I still have it in the box it came in with the Desktop dock and Car dock too. I'm holding on to it for ever!!!
I passed on the Nexus S because I didn't want a Samsung Phone. I love the way HTC makes their phones. I bought into the hype about their phones feeling "cheap" and "plasticy".
I decided to replace my N1 with a Sensation which has been a pretty big disappointment.
When the GN was announced I decided to swallow my dislike for Samsung's phones and go for it. After reading about the specs it seemed like a decent phone, Nothing groundbreaking just decent maybe even a little sub par when compared to some of the top of the line phones. The only really stand out things about it are the software, which most of the top tier phones will be getting upgraded to at some point.
NFC? It's cool but I can't see using it that much. I think I've run into one other person that was using a Nexus phone and I didn't care to swap info with them. I'd probably pay for stuff with it but I still have to carry a wallet so it's not going to replace my debit card.
Camera? 5mp that's less than 8mp seems like a pretty big step down from what every "top tier" phone out there. Hopefully the low light performance will be really good but somehow I'm expecting disappointment.
Big Screen? I love it big, but then I read about the Galaxy Note.
Pure Google? I've been there with everything up to Gingerbread and I have to say it was barren. I'm on sense now and I've tried (a few times) giving it up to use ADW to get that stock launcher experience I didn't last long. Compared to Sense 3 (I think) Gingerbread is VERY ugly and misses out on a lot of niceties that I've grown accustomed to in Sense.
At least it'll probably get updates first.
It seems like every time I turn around some company is releasing a phone that bests the GN in every way, SGSII, RAZOR and today I read freaking LG has got a phone with a killer display more pixels or something like that.
With that in mind how do you keep your excitement up about this phone?
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I tried to use a SGSII but couldn't live with it. Was coming from a Nexus S and before that I owned a N1. It just didn't feel right. It came shipped with 2.3 then after some time 2.3.4 hit when I sold it a month ago 2.3.5 still wasn't official available. In addition they added a strange bootloader which stopped you from flashing CM7. I don't know exactly what happened there but it was one of the points which led me to sell the phone. I'm using a Desire now until I receive my 100% free GN.
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I'll probably just keep my NS for now. All other smartphones sound lame in comparison to the NS + Voodoo Sound.

Confessions of a young Fanboy

Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass

Tl;dr
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We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.

GG2012 said:
We all have our wish lists for that single, perfect phone. I know I certainly do. Whether it's the IPhone's/HTC's/Sony's great hardware/build quality, or the pure Android experience offered with Nexus, or Samsung's wide array of software features/apps, the "perfect" one.
I love technology and I love my smartphone. I love rooting, flashing, trying out a thousand different things on my phone. But why should I care about it (the smartphone) so much? Of course I have invested lots of money into my smartphone, but it's not healthy to be consumed so much by smartphone. I know I'm going a bit off-topic, but really I'm just trying to tell you, just get a phone for what it really was for, to call, to text. I know apps are so convenient nowadays because we have everything in a device, but sometimes it's not bad to do it old-fashioned.
Get a phone that you will use now and a while. Get a phone that can serve its purpose. While a phone may have many features or many apps, I highly doubt a student or a professional will find use for it every single hour of the day. Most of us I assume probably aren't developers, and even as hobbies, it shouldn't consume much time.
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This is by far the best advice I have seen on xda ...ever.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Back when you were content with your phone(s), things were growing much slower than they are now. At the current rate that phones are being released, it's guaranteed that there will be a new and better phone that you will want within the first year. Companies don't want you to be content with a phone for too long. I bet Samsung has better features right now that could have been added to the s4, but they want to save those for the s5.
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I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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You can see the phones I've had in my signature, all 3 Nokias were indestructible...the old flip phone, I threw it at a wall and it exploded into a million pieces, put it back together and the thing still works...man they really knew how to build phones...
The Nexus One was a great phone. I had to drop it and break the internal screen (oddly enough the outer glass didn't crack at all.). But it felt great in my hand, it was very solid and built well.
The Nexus S was kind of disappointing I have to say...Almost completely the same specs and I felt it wasn't built as well. I sold it for my GS-II
That stupid thing was the retarded stepchild of the S-II fleet...the poor developers were stuck with GB while T-Mobile picked its ass holding back all the updates. ****ty screen for sure, visible display flaws, poor PPI, cheap feeling...I never wanted to get a Samsung again. But I did...
The S-III was a huge improvement to say the least...I'm very satisfied with it. It does feel cheaper than say my old N1, but I think it feels a lot better than the NS or t989. Honestly with a screen protector and an otterbox commuter case, it's just fine. And as long as I have my Cyanogenmod, I don't care what software the thing comes with . Barring anything crazy coming out anytime soon, I don't see myself getting another phone until this falls apart.
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
BTW: I sold my t989 on eBay for $350, all I had to do was unlock the thing, instantly increases it's value by a good $150. Always unlock your phone before you sell it, it will sell for much more.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree on almost all of your points. I've had my share of android phones (G1, Moto Charm, G2x, and now Galaxy S3) and I'm beginning to become disappointed with the experience of this phone compared to that of a newer android device or even an iPhone and it's been only 8 months since I've purchased it. I don't quite agree with you on the music issue as I'm a music junkie myself with a 7 gig library but poweramp has transformed my android music listening experience into a great one.
Back to the S3, I've found that the battery life and build quality have been very sub par for me. Plus the pentile display is nothing to rave about either. Being only a sophomore in high school and tied to my family's family plan on T-Mobile, I really don't have an option to switch. I desperately want a Note 2 or Nexus 4 but financially I'm screwed. Even with the Nexus 4's low price I'd have to wait for the rumored 32gb version for storage reasons but that'd set me back $400 for shipping and tax. The S3 isn't even worth that anymore used.
All in all, I feel as if I should've waited for the Note 2 or Nexus 4 before getting the S3. Don't get me wrong, it's an awesome device that's suits all of my needs fine but there are definitely better choices out there from the perspective of a critical tech junkie such as myself.
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Referring to the music, my library exceeds 30 gigs and I've just found it irritating to sync and manage. Not a huge issue though. I think we're on the same page though. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way about the device. The thing is that I can get the HTC One spending all of my current savings, but then of course that means no new phone in the coming months. And Later this year there are just too many rumors about this "X Phone" and the new nexus... Idk.
zander21510 said:
In my eyes, as cliche as it may be, since my most important factors are Cyanogenmod and otterbox (or equivalent) case availability, all I care about are the specs. I sure hope screens stop ****in growing though...this one is almost too big as it is...
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I see where you're coming from. I got a huge Seido case for my S3, and then took it off after about a month. I dropped it afterwards (about 9 feet onto my subwoofer, long story) and nothing happened luckily. I like it better without a case. I guess looks would be a smaller factor then. Maybe, I should just snap that huge case back on and try to hold out until the holiday season... Idk lol. Thanks for the reply. :good:

I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?

ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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Companies are getting us used to crave new things within very short periods of time, an example of this is the fact that new phones, tablets or any kind of electronics pop every 4 to 6 months, which is done to satisfy our non-basic needs of always having the latest gadgets, and to create more profits or economic growth for the typical capitalist corporations. We've been spoiled to have new tech very fast, which is in a way bad as this craving (or addiction?) can easily go out control and we can be left bored with very new gadgets in our hands or even go into debt t o satisfy this craving for more. This spoiling behavior makes us feel the need to want more or not to be satisfied with what we have and we can quickly become slaves of technology if we dive too deep into it, hence what you are feeling when you say that you are growing unimpressed with so many innovations or not satisfied or please with the current technology. Perhaps I'm going a bit of topic, but is worth to be aware where we stand as consumers and the invisible ways corporations play with our "addictions" or "needs" for the latest.

I love the looks of both the Nexus 4 and the HTC one better than my Galaxy S3, but no removeable battery and no expandable memory? Get serious? I can deal with a plasic back, the price I paid tells me it's not cheap! Anyways, I don't agree with anything else you said. This phone was awesomly fast out of the box and now I have a custom ROM that even improved on that. Plus, I prefer Samoleds although I admit Samsung could do better. A 1080p screen with Super Amoled + with a different pentile arrangement would be nice. My next phone is most likely to be the Note 3, Samsung is just at the edge of innovation right now, too much so for me not to buy. Can't wait!

nyyankees1237 said:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.

Can't forget the holographic keyboard.
Scores over 10,000 on quadrant, I saw a stock HTC one today score 9133 on quadrant running stock 4.1.2. That was impressive.
I like your dream phone.
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zander21510 said:
I would say my dream phone would be:
-1080p 4.75in (no bigger, no smaller) super-fancy spaceage whatever screen that can actually get its brightness as low as possible at night, and stays clear and readable in direct sunlight...
-1.5ghz+ ultra-energy efficient 4+ core processor.
-2GB+ RAM
-Micro SD card
-16+ GB internal storage
-Removable back cover and battery
-NFC, Barometer, compass, so many sensors I can start a weatherstation lol.
-Vibration with adjustable intensity from barely felt to earthquake magnitude.
-Latest Cyanogenmod stock, with options to auto-update to stable, M, or nightly releases (a guy can dream...)
-A rear camera that can shoot 1080P video and instant-shutter, no noise high quality pictures, and a front camera capable of doing an HD Skype call.
-2 front-firing speakers (one on bottom, one on top that doubles as earpiece); a rear-facing mic for the camera, and a bottom-facing mic for phone calls
-Capacative buttons underneath screen (menu, home, back in that order)
-24-hour runtime battery
-Body of carbon fiber (the durabilty of plastic with the feel of metal)
-Super gorilla glass whatever that can withstand a 5-foot face-down drop.
I would pay a good $450 for that phone.
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I'll take two! Haha
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The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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ywindlass said:
Hello XDA Community,
I got my first smartphone in middle school. It was my first phone. The T-Mobile Shadow (Windows Mobile). I was 13 then. Now I'm 18, and in College. I spent my free time in doing the easy mods the community created. I got the MyTouch 3g as soon as it came out and started flashing roms. Then, the Nexus One came out and I immediately came up with a scheme to convince my sister to take my old phone so I could get the Nexus One. Anyways, I got it in 10th grade and life was sweet. I was happy. I became a "crack flasher". So I had the phone for a while and decided then to get the Galaxy S3.
As for the Galaxy S3...
I don't know about this phone. I've had it for less then a year. Obviously, I became an HTC fanboy growing up with HTC phones. My friends all got HTC phones. We all flashed roms and enjoyed ourselves. But when this phone came out, I had to make a hard decision. The removable battery, expandable storage (and T-Mobile availability) made it a good choice. It was unlike the HTC One X in those regards. (My friend got that phone) The HTC One just came out. I want it now.
Why?
Well I suppose I'm not that happy with the S3. I got a 64gb micro sd for it. I thought I could replace my ipod. I was so wrong. I hate all of the music players on Android. I regard music too highly to be happy with the Android music experience. Anyways, that's not going to change with any new Android phone. I've learned to live with that. The screen is nice, but it doesn't compare to other displays I've seen. I guess it's because I keep the DPI kind of low and expect crispness? The LG Nexus 4 has an amazing screen also and works very well. The biggest thing though, that I really dislike about this phone, is the build quality. I hate the plastic feeling. I hate the gloss and fingerprints. It feels so cheap. And, the UI isn't even liquid smooth. I've flashed a lot. I guess I'm comparing it to the Nexus 4 now, as I've played with that a bit. I've got very close to really quick, but I'm not satisfied. I paid a lot of money and invested my hopes in this technology but I'm not pleased.
I've found that throughout the time I've owned this phone, I've thought a lot of different things. I've considered Windows Phone, Blackberry, and even iPhone, just because I want something sexy that works well. But I'm an Android man.
I don't know if this is because deep down, I'm an HTC fanboy. Or if it's because I'm a Google fanboy and love Nexus phones (or a combination?). i hate these second thoughts I'm getting after such a long time of having the phone. It's not long enough to justify an upgrade. Am I cursed with being unimpressed forever growing up with so many innovations around me?
Do share your thoughts for me on this. I just wanted to share,
Cheers,
ywindlass
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..

wardoc22 said:
The power of a desktop computer, specifically i7 3770k, gtx 580 sli x3, 24gb ram, 256gb sd, all in a sexy Nokia n9 form, running windows 8.
Thats my dream phone. Seems realistic enough.
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" I want something sexy that works well"
Get a cerulean n9. Though the s3 hardware is very much superior to the n9, the n9 just wins hands down IMHO.
I have both phone and u would pick the n9 over the s3 any day of I didn't water damage the power switch on my n9.. Grrr Seattle rain..
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Those specs would definitely be amazing haha. But yeah, I did end up getting the HTC one, and I think I'm happier. I havent even rooted yet and I'm still content. It just works so well. Everything is so clean and sexy.

nyyankees1237 said:
I agree, I'll wait for the next nexus or galaxy note 3 with some saved money.
Perfect phone for me though:
High quality metal build (aluminum perhaps)
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+ battery
2ghz quadcore processor
2gb+ ram
Micro SD card slot
64gb+ internal storage
Stock android (for nexus updates)
8+ megapixel camera
Front facing speakers
Not insanely expensive lol
Perfect phone for me though:
A guy could dream. Can anyone get it right?
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By your specs, would the Google S4 be it?
BTW, my dream specs:
1080p 5+inch screen
3000mah+battery
2ghz quadcore processor
3gb ram
Micro SD card slot
128gb+internal storage
Stock android
12+MP camera
4+MP front camera
Wireless charging
Front facing speakers
FM radio (for my mom)
LTE
Inexpensive

wardoc22 said:
Grrr Seattle rain..
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Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....

Thetenthdr said:
Rain? Seattle? Pfft.....
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It rains here 24.7 in the winter.

Yes, yes it does.
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