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MHL / HDMI Mini review.

So, got mine today from mobile fun, link Below.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
Mobile Fun's mini Video Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnU5F_0TyZI&feature=player_embedded
First of all it works, the most important thing, it works well in fact and my 1080p videos look fantastic, those I have downloaded and those I have recorded myself with this phone, they really do look great and a HD TV. So for the measly price of 15-20 sheets its worth it regardless of the issues below.
The only problem:
For those that didn't know, i.e, didn't do their homework, you cannot just plug this in and it will work, it needs power. Now I knew about this and didn't really see it is an issue as I hadn't really imagined how this would look, work and feel. Well I can say that for me (only my opinion) its a bit of a mess, its far from elegant. Basically you have to plug in a usb cable into the adapter first, this powers it, then plug the adapter into the Phone and then the hdmi into the adapter and TV. This is all easily done but like I say it is far from a more elegant one cable solution that doesn't need power and doesn't need an adapter. For me this was my first real disappointment with this phone, a floating turd in an otherwise lake of glittering gold.
Now it could be argued that I knew about this and that I shouldn't be disappointed but I am, the whole thing in your hand just feels ungainly, something you are not going to know until you put it all together. I really don't like the idea that you have to have a second cable to power it either, again I know this so I don't need this pointing out but people should be aware of this drawback, however minor.
Summary (for those who can be arsed to read)
1. It works really well, HD stuff looks fantastic.
2. Its not an elegant solution as you need a usb cable to power the adapter itself.

What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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diehard2222 said:
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.

Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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stoolzo said:
marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
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Maybe thats true for you, I'm using and loving MHL on mine.

ripnard said:
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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Dont worry - sorted it. Stoppped overclocking to 1.5ghz and using performance govenor (DOH!) and I can now stream 1080p from youutube over wifi (only works through full fat desktop internet browser mode btw, not via the youtbe app or youtube in mobile broweser page mode) with mobile data off and still charges the phone at the same time!
Wow 1080 video over internet wifi straight to tv. This phone rocks!

my only gripe with this adapter is that it requires power, if this port was just put in place to allow charging when playing this would have been fine, its just the fact you cannot use he adapter at all without an extra the power source.

I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.

The problem here is that there is no MHL compliant TV yet afaik.
Cause the MHL port in a TV would provide power to the phone without needing another cable.

You'd want it plugged in anyway. I can see the battery lasting an hour playing 1080P video outputting internally and externally at the same time.

Do you still have to have an external power source on the official samsung MHL adapter?
If so, I really doubt I'm buying one
In other words, I need to have a PC or power contact for it to work?
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Hey,
is the output really 1080p (if you have a movie which is 1080p), or is it Android´s/ the phone´s native resolution?
just wondering
bye

Its the phones resolution unless you're in the video player, in which case it outputs it in HD if the source file is HD (does 1080i for compressed video, I've heard it will do 1080p with un-compressed video, but not tried yet to confirm).

PointZeroOne said:
I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
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Probably for the MHL-to-HDMI bridge chip and any support electronics. Note that once MHL-capable TVs enter the market, it may be possible to use a straight-through passive cable, especially if the MHL-capable TV provides charging input to the phone as promised.

can someone tell me what is the cost for a good cable in us dollars?

Wouldnt it make sense for there to be an option to turn the phone screen off when outputting to the TV?

i orderd mine from clove, still waiting for my order..

I ordered this cable just now at mobilefun, but I made an error in my phone number. Wanted to press the escape button so the page wouldn't continue but it was too late. Lol .. anyway I'm sure it'll be fine. Although, I didn't receive a confirmation email yet
"Expected back in stock: 4-8 days" Grrrr

Official Samsung cable is on Amazon UK at the time I'm posting this for £17.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004ULZ0IW
Not sure I really need one but a heads-up for those who want it.
Edit: "Usually dispatched within 1 to 4 months"! - oh well maybe I'll order it and see if I need it when it gets here...

i am using the official samsung hdtv adapter/hdmi adapter. just got it today.
the quality of the output video is fantastic...
only gripe is similar to what was mentioned. have to get it powered before it can be used..
sighs..

Kingston wi-drive now supports kindle fire and is at amazon store

Just seen this anyone know what this is.
http://kindleworld.blogspot.com/2012/01/kingston-wi-drive-app-for-kindle-fire.html

johnsaldivar said:
Just seen this anyone know what this is.
http://kindleworld.blogspot.com/2012/01/kingston-wi-drive-app-for-kindle-fire.html
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I posted this a few days ago in the General forum...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443654
it definitely looks like a good idea.

$100 32gb flash drive
I hope kindle gets usb host support

I assume this works over WiFi? Would be cool if it worked over secret bluetooth and we finally found out for sure the BT worked...

I just ordered one..

This seems pretty cool; however, the 3 hour battery life is somewhat disconcerting.

podspi said:
I assume this works over WiFi? Would be cool if it worked over secret bluetooth and we finally found out for sure the BT worked...
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It provides its own WiFi network to which up to 3 devices can connect but also has an extra element that allows it to use a bridging mechanism to let your Kindle Fire be connected to the Internet and the Wi-Drive at the same time (not possible with the otherwise interesting AirStash with nice features of its own). You can be using media from the Wi-Drive while looking up something on the Net.
Besides adding storage to the Kindle Fire this way, 3 people can be wirelessly conected to it at the same time and be watching 3 different movies (or the same one) with what customer reviewers describe as smooth response. But it lasts only 3.5 to 4 hours per session, on the battery.
The sharing function is a real plus for families.
- Andrys (anieb & Kindleworld)

What a ripoff....
We could have this same thing for $5-20 in a micro SD slot/card if Amazon had more sense before releasing this thing.
I will not be buying this. We have a cheap $200 tablet, if you plan to spend $50-200 more on this kind of thing you might as well have bought a better tablet instead.
I don't think this is anything to get excited about.

Since it is apparently a hotspot do you have to pay some sort of monthly fee? Seems co
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I know someone that tried this with an iPAD2... streaming wasn't very good. they sent it back.

i bought one of this too, and im really enjoying.
It streams very well full hd movies to my fire and phone.
I'm having only one problem, cant access files on my windows laptop.
I go to 192.168.200.254 on browser and then i think he dont see well the code, cause appears just " /" NameLast Modified Size " and then the files i have on wi-drive. it's supposed to appear a list of linkable files i have, right?

krelvinaz said:
I know someone that tried this with an iPAD2... streaming wasn't very good. they sent it back.
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I've streamed original 1280 x 720 videoclips shot with a FlipMino HD from the Wi-Drive -- to a Kindle Fire, a Samsung S2 phone, and a Samsung Tab 10.1
They all streamed smoothly. But I don't have an iPad2.
It depends on how you do your file. I've seen now conversion software that is unstable on the intended device and which is not playable from the Wi-Drive and looks like it's torn apart on any of the 3 devices I mentioned.
Positive results came with DVD Catalyst 4 to downsize, and from Emicsoft's easy 'join'ing of mp4's.
I experimented with both the original videoclips and joined ones, which even if called 'lossless' changes something due to the resulting somewhat smaller file.
The FlipMino HD uses 60 frames per second.
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Android16 said:
What a ripoff....
We could have this same thing for $5-20 in a micro SD slot/card if Amazon had more sense before releasing this thing.
I will not be buying this. We have a cheap $200 tablet, if you plan to spend $50-200 more on this kind of thing you might as well have bought a better tablet instead.
I don't think this is anything to get excited about.
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The Nook Tablet has the SD slot and costs $50 more + the cost of a good SD card. (It also has better specs in total.)
The Wi-Drive can be shared by 3 devices at a time, accessing the same data or different data. Can't do that with an SD card, but it all depends on your need for that. Some are sharing it on trips, for kids in the back of the car.
But it still lasts only 3.5 to 4 hours tht way.
Someone else mentioned it acts as a hotspot. Actually, it doesn't serve Internet data. It just serves its own stored data. Other devices connect to the Wi-Drive as a sort of cloud and it provides the wireless access to itself -- but not to the Net.
It can, though, be used with a connected device while the latter accesses the Net. It uses some kind of bridging mechanism to do that.

baj24 said:
This seems pretty cool; however, the 3 hour battery life is somewhat disconcerting.
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Here's the good thing. You can use the Wi-Drive while it's plugged in. Doesn't matter if the battery's drained. People on vacation can use it in their hotel rooms that way.
I just did the setup to use the Wi-Drive and be on the Net at the same time. It's easier than I thought from reading it the first time. You just put the Wi-Drive on your WiFi network (using the Wi-Drive app on your Kindle Fire) and then the Wi-Drive reboots.
After it's done, and ready, you use the app on the KFire to connect with the Wi-Drive again and then check the Wi-Drive's network connections status and there's an icon that, if it shows up, means you're both on the Net, via the Wi-Drive and also able to access the Drive. The other ones I've read about don't do both at the same time...

anieb said:
Here's the good thing. You can use the Wi-Drive while it's plugged in. Doesn't matter if the battery's drained. People on vacation can use it in their hotel rooms that way.
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Are you sure you can use it while it's charging? Did you actually try it?
The article states that you can not.
His caveats are that with two or more people using it at a time, constantly streaming, it runs for only 3 hours and then must be re-charged again and you cannot recharge this with the miniUSB adapter while using it. He doesn't say how long it lasts with one person using it.
That was actually one of the things that was turning me against it... would love to know if it's not true.
Though honestly, I will probably just wait for a stable ICS ROM that will, hopefully, by then have the usb host function working.

Xandralia said:
Are you sure you can use it while it's charging? Did you actually try it?
The article states that you can not.
His caveats are that with two or more people using it at a time, constantly streaming, it runs for only 3 hours and then must be re-charged again and you cannot recharge this with the miniUSB adapter while using it. He doesn't say how long it lasts with one person using it.
That was actually one of the things that was turning me against it... would love to know if it's not true.
Though honestly, I will probably just wait for a stable ICS ROM that will, hopefully, by then have the usb host function working.
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It turned out that the customer reviewer was wrong about not being able to charge it while accessing it. I've just replied to his review because I AM able to charge it while running a movie from the Wi-Drive. At home. With the power adapter that came with the unit. However, Kingston is clear that you cannot charge it and access it if you are using the USB cord with a computer. It has to be with the power adapter that comes with the unit or is Apple Certified.
The reviewer was describing not being able to charge it in his car once the battery was run down. I called Kingston tech support to find out if there was something different about its use with car adapters, and a Level 2 tech support rep said that it does charge it while you're using but the car adapter has to be up to a certain standard and the best thing to do is look for car adapters that are Apple Product Certified.
I haven't been able to test that yet though!

So anyone can confirm if we can use wi drive while charging with power. adapter?

therethere said:
So anyone can confirm if we can use wi drive while charging with power. adapter?
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Yes, I explained above that I can charge it while using it. The customer reviewer who said it wasn't possible has revised his review and is now letting people know how to do it, after I wrote to that review thread. He is very good about adding updated info.

does anyone know if they have mobile wireless 1TBs yet? the seagate one is only 500gigs

ok, thanks.
i tried with a charger i have but that don't work, maybe because it got a led light on charger. will have to try another

therethere said:
ok, thanks.
i tried with a charger i have but that don't work, maybe because it got a led light on charger. will have to try another
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It comes with its own charger. The chargers need to be at a standard, they said, which qualifies for 'Apple product qualified' ... The one that comes with it definitely works.
There's also a trick that's needed which I mentioned and the customer reviewer added to his updates. And that's to make sure it's off without the charger plugged in.
Turn it On w/o the charger plugged in. Then turn the Wi-Drive back On to let it get activated. At that point, plug in the power adapter .

SGSII MHL/HDMI Adapter

I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4

Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.

ctomgee said:
I've played FF7 via FPSe piped to my TV using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter for about 2 hours straight and never noticed any issues. Works great. And I got it for $16 off eBay shipping included.
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Sounds like an idea. I use mine for FPSE as well. And N64oid. Spent about an hour playing Super Smash Brothers before work today. Only cut out about three times during that run, lol.

In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.

Bloodrainer said:
In my experience the cutting is interference from the phones antenna , tried it in airplane mode? WiFi doesnt interfere.
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Have not tried airplane mode. Mostly, this is because I often use it as a desktop computer. Actually does the job fairly well. 19" flatscreen TV, BT keyboard and mouse, web browsing becomes a much more pleasant experience.
Mozilla needs to get off their asses and add an option to change the text size though. Dolphin works great but doesn't agree with some sites.

Indeed, that type of use shows the awesomeness of this device, i sometimes use Ubuntu, there's a nice package posted somewhere here, Firefox, GIMP etc on a cellphone is amazing. But enough of that ot, if airplane mode doesn't give you those cuts then when reconnected to cells try to position the cable in a way that it wont catch so much interference, i connect it to a 27" tv/monitor/tuner/almost coffee maker combo, and depending on positioning i can catch the moment when i'm going to loose signal by the tv's speakers catching the interference. Maybe you can find a position where it wont cut, i was able to position it in a safe way, so i believe it might be the lack of any screening at the chip on the cheap design.

one quick question i bought the mhl adapter from dealextreme a while ago but i´ve never really used till now since i bought a ps3 controller, my question regards image quality.
I am aware that the mhl adapter that i bought it isn´t the official but many people rated it high quality, when i play for example an emulator or riptige gp the image quality looks a lot better on the phone than it does on a tv or pc monitor, i´ve tested both, i don´t know if its just because the screen is smaller the image looks sharper but for example playing mario 64 on a big screen the image looks a bit squared/pixelated.
I even installed a pc emulator to compare (looks better), forced anti aliasing with chainfire and still looks pixelated.
The info that appears on my monitor is that the image is working at 1080i 1920*1080.
Is this normal ?

I have the official Samsung MHL adapter. It works great, the only issue is the display is a little bit trimmed off from the top and bottom. I have checked it on multiple TVs so I don't think TV settings are the issue.

mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.

Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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My original adapter has cuts followed by a horrible noise. It was a lot worse when i used the charger that comes with the phone, probably the electrical distribution in my block sucks. Powering the adapter with USB power from my notebook almost solved the problem.
But it's quite pointless powering the cellphone with a computer instead of just using the computer's HDMI... In fact the MHL support sucks IMO, the only true 1080i/p is the video player, not even the photo viewer supports it! The other manufacturers like HTC, LG, Motorola and even NVidia had the descence of releasing an API enabling this functionality since it's not supported by Android itself.
Now that Bloodrainer mentioned, I never used the MHL in airplane mode... interesting...

Well, i get nasty noise in audio output when connected to a cheap car charger, so yea, i'd vote for your houses electric wiring, sadly i dont know much about electrics my vote would be to try a grounded plug with a surge protector?

Bloodrainer said:
mousiope, i know what you mean, it may be disorienting a bit, this is how it works.
The cable output is HD, but its only cloning the phones screen resolution when not playing high res videos, thats what produces the low resolution view on the monitor, so yes, it is because on the small screen it looks sharper. I noticed that on the emulators this is even more visible than on other uses, maybe the emulator itself is generating lower res than phones screen? never really looked at it. Try to change the LCD Density, its not quite the same than higher resolution but helps a little (mind tho that touchwiz doesnt scle properly with changes in lcd density, meaning it gets a little messy, small font, 4 icons per row always etc).
flippity, i never noticed trimming on my MHL output. Will check it tho.
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hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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No clue about api support, none of the AOSP based roms suport MHL, as it requires much of the samsungs frame and stuff, so sadly cm, miui, etc dont support MHL, not tried the leaked ICS yet, but i belive it should support MHL as its samsung's release.

Dematank said:
I got the Cable Matters MHL to HDMI adapter (no links- under 8 posts) from Amazon. Perfectly inexpensive, quality is alright. I use my existing adapter heavily; multiple emulators, Sixaxis Control Utility, and along with a keyboard and mouse I use it like a second desktop. However, sometimes video output ceases for a few seconds, giving a black screen on whatever you're outputting to. The video output on the phone is unaffected. Apparently this is a common issue for this adapter. While it's not deal breaking (it still works fine and only cuts out for two to three seconds every five to twenty minutes), I want to know if the official adapter has this issue as well. While it's twice as expensive, I may put down the money sometime down the road to replace the one I've got.
What do you have, how well does it work?
SGSII, AT&T, rooted, stock ROM, Android 2.3.4
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I have bought original MHL adapter and i face d exact same issue. I have tried various media players, stock ROMs, stock kernels and still d same issue keeps coming
See this post 297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036874
Hope someone can help finding exact cause of this issue

mousiope said:
hmmm i see ill give it a try
does cm9 support mhl or the ics leaked sammy rom!? will the api support be available with ics?
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not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this

pogui said:
not yet, but i hope that in the next leak they will fix this
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incorrect i use the stock lp6 leaked rom and my samsung mhl adapter works fine.

I entered Flight Mode as Bloodrainer said, and apparently this fixed the cuts.

Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?

Dematank said:
Does Cyanogenmod7 allow you to output in full 1080p?
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I didn't think CyanogenMod supported MHL out at all...
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[Q] Will these MHL cable work with galaxy nexus?

I want to know if these MHL cable will work with galaxy nexus, in the description it says it does, but i'm not sure.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mhl-mi...y-s-ii-more-black-red-2m-length-149523?item=6
I just need to know to post the order, i REALLY need an MHL cable!
thanks!

That is on the high side of price IMO.
I just recently got this one...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=9291&seq=1&format=2
$5 cheaper and you should get it within a week vs. 1-2 months.
Works pretty good, a SLIGHT bit of clipping on my 1080p monitor, But I've only tried it one so far. I know each tv/monitor is different in some way.
Now on a side note, I wonder if this MHL adapter would work well..
http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-System...8?ie=UTF8&qid=1345728497&sr=8-28&keywords=mhl
For kinda a portable media player, just hook up an external drive or sd card?

Trigster said:
That is on the high side of price IMO.
I just recently got this one...
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=9291&seq=1&format=2
$5 cheaper and you should get it within a week vs. 1-2 months.
Works pretty good, a SLIGHT bit of clipping on my 1080p monitor, But I've only tried it one so far. I know each tv/monitor is different in some way.
Now on a side note, I wonder if this MHL adapter would work well..
http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-System...8?ie=UTF8&qid=1345728497&sr=8-28&keywords=mhl
For kinda a portable media player, just hook up an external drive or sd card?
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The problem is that I'm in Brazil, and the shipping in that link you posted, is about $40,00, and in dealextreme it's free.
I think it may work fine, but you will possible need to root your device and install stickmount apk to work the external drive and sd card

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The problem is that I'm in Brazil, and the shipping in that link you posted, is about $40,00, and in dealextreme it's free.
I think it may work fine, but you will possible need to root your device and install stickmount apk to work the external drive and sd card
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How about this one?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2

Galaxy S3 composite out?

I've been searching and I'm not finding any real answers which leads me to believe that it won't be possible without a digital converter box. I'm looking for some type of analog out adapter for my S3. I would like to hook it up to my car's in-dash head unit which does not support HDMI. Now a days a regular micro usb port on these phones seem to be used for every purpose. I do want video. Has anyone had any luck?
EDIT: This post started with 6 adapters and has dwindled down to just 3. I'm surprised to find the S3 VGA adapter but this is the digital to analog converter I need. The total cost is about $30. I pulled the trigger and will update you guys in a few weeks once it arrives.
Samsung Galaxy S3 S III i9300 MHL Micro USB 11p to VGA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sam-sung-Ga...372122?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a7a349f1a
VGA to Composite
http://ebay.com/itm/PC-VGA-to-TV-S-...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item337c25cbe6
3.5mm to Composite
http://ebay.com/itm/3-5MM-Male-Audi...=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item45faa58acf
Edit: Wow I feel dumb... You can't convert from VGA to Composite without a converter box. What a waste. I was focusing on the conversion from digital to analog and didn't consider the encoding is different... The VGA out does however work with my HDTV. It's not great though. The output is fixed at the 720p resolution which means it uses about 1/3th of my 1080p screen. The screen flickers occasionally too. Sometimes it won't even work without a minute of messing with the cables. The screen is just staticy until I get it right. It has however gotten better so maybe it needed to break in or something. Either way, I guess I'm going to buy an HDMI to Composite converter box instead.

Moved to first post.

Heck, a raspberry pi is cheaper than these converter boxes and it's a full computer.

Moved to first post.

I'd be I interested in one of these too. For the same reason
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Anyone ever used one of these? I'm curious if the micro usb port will both charge my phone and power the converter.

Use this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271014996085?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Got good reviews on amazon, im planing to buy one soon

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Use this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271014996085?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Got good reviews on amazon, im planing to buy one soon
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Seems nice! Waiting for feedback...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080KN18K/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1
Here are the reviews on amazon

0mega007 said:
Use this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271014996085?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Got good reviews on amazon, im planing to buy one soon
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That's the guy I was looking at first but you have to buy a 5 to 11 pin adapter, an MHL HDMI cable, and then the converter. That's around $50. The VGA adapter will only run you $30.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sam-sung-Ga...jectors-Adapter-/251158372122?#ht_5213wt_1163

Wow I feel dumb... You can't convert from VGA to Composite without a converter box. What a waste. I was focusing on the conversion from digital to analog and didn't consider the encoding is different... The VGA out does however work with my HDTV. It's not great though. The output is fixed at the 720p resolution which means it uses about 1/3th of my 1080p screen. The screen flickers occasionally too. Sometimes it won't even work without a minute of messing with the cables. The screen is just staticy until I get it right. It has however gotten better so maybe it needed to break in or something. Either way, I guess I'm going to buy an HDMI to Composite converter box instead.

Raspberry Pi
Hopefully people are still reading this... Someone had mentioned a Raspberry Pi... How would I go about using that to connect my phone to my car system to get video? any ideas anyone?

What car system do you have? What kind of input methods are available? What are you trying to achieve?

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What car system do you have? What kind of input methods are available? What are you trying to achieve?
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I have an Avic Z1 in my car. The video inputs are just RCA/Component cables... no high-def. I essentially just want to be able to play movies off my phone onto my screen/sound system in my car. I have a Raspberry Pi sitting around; I've never used it though, so no idea what to do with it. I'm hoping I can use that so I don't have to buy anything else. Any ideas?

Well, the Pi does have RCA output. So you could connect it to your Z1. The Pi is a little computer on its own. You could just use it instead of your phone and put your movies on a sd card or a thump drive. It is possible to use the Pi as a dlna device and your phone as a dlna server that transmits movies to the Pi which in turn outputs the video to your Z1. That however isn't the easiest of feats. It takes a lot more effort than a plug and play solution like a hdmi to RCA converter box would.
The Pi is linux based and I don't use Linux. So I don't know if Linux can work with the MPA or whatever that standard is named, that the S3 uses instead of the standard older phones are using which makes them appear on a computer like a harddrive when connected via USB. If Linux can work with the S3 you could just connect it and use it as a Harddrive, using the computer system of the Pi to navigate content on your phone. Would be a lot easier than streaming.
Anyway, there are a couple of ways you could use the Pi but none of them are easy out of the box solutions. The Pi is more of a developer device at least when you want to do more than what the Linux distributions that are available can offer. There are some that offer that DLNA feature I was talking about. Look for XBMC, there are Videos on Youtube. All those solutions aren't plug and play. If you like playing with computers and figuring out stuff, make it work, this should be fun for you. If not, you better think of something else to do with your time.
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Looked it up. It's called MHL, not MPA.
Plug and Play would be to use one of those:
http://www.amazon.com/Sanoxy-HDMI-Composite-S-Video-Converter/dp/B0047PDBP0
You'd also need a MHL Cable that turns your Micro USB out to a HDMI out, Plug it into the converter and said converter into your Z1. Once you've set that up with all the cables needed (quite a lot of cables going on there), it will be plug and play in the future.
Not cheap, so it depends on how often you are going to use it, if it's a worthwhile endeavor.

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Well, the Pi does have RCA output. So you could connect it to your Z1. The Pi is a little computer on its own. You could just use it instead of your phone and put your movies on a sd card or a thump drive. It is possible to use the Pi as a dlna device and your phone as a dlna server that transmits movies to the Pi which in turn outputs the video to your Z1. That however isn't the easiest of feats. It takes a lot more effort than a plug and play solution like a hdmi to RCA converter box would.
The Pi is linux based and I don't use Linux. So I don't know if Linux can work with the MPA or whatever that standard is named, that the S3 uses instead of the standard older phones are using which makes them appear on a computer like a harddrive when connected via USB. If Linux can work with the S3 you could just connect it and use it as a Harddrive, using the computer system of the Pi to navigate content on your phone. Would be a lot easier than streaming.
Anyway, there are a couple of ways you could use the Pi but none of them are easy out of the box solutions. The Pi is more of a developer device at least when you want to do more than what the Linux distributions that are available can offer. There are some that offer that DLNA feature I was talking about. Look for XBMC, there are Videos on Youtube. All those solutions aren't plug and play. If you like playing with computers and figuring out stuff, make it work, this should be fun for you. If not, you better think of something else to do with your time.
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Interesting... I'll have to look into all that.. My only concern is then I'd have to keep a mouse and keyboard in my car at all times, correct? I was hoping I could just play something on my phone and it would appear on my car screen. I'll youtube the stuff you mentioned and see what works. Thanks a lot!

I was hoping I could just play something on my phone and it would appear on my car screen.
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Well, the converter box would do that.
With the Pi being a real computer however, some kind of input device will be necessary. Using the Pi is kind of a long shot anyway. It's possible but it's not what the Pi is intended for. It usually is easier and more user-friendly using a dedicated system instead of something cobbled together.

shamez23 said:
Well, the converter box would do that.
With the Pi being a real computer however, some kind of input device will be necessary. Using the Pi is kind of a long shot anyway. It's possible but it's not what the Pi is intended for. It usually is easier and more user-friendly using a dedicated system instead of something cobbled together.
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Haha.. that's what I figured. Thanks a lot!

I have the old tvout cable from s1....is it good?
But I can't find the tvout settings in the phone...
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No. The S3 has it's own cable and it's different than the ones from the S1 or S2. There is an adapter available but that one usually costs nearly as much as a new cable from ebay.
Also, depending on your ROM, TV-out may not work at all. There is no TV-out on Cyanogenmod ROMs for example.