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Licenced Software CAB conversion

Does anyone know if you can take a piece of software that you have purchased in CAB format, with a Licence Key and change it into a package?
Since the software isn't OEM is it still the same method to create a package?

Any Takers?
This cant be to much of a hard question!!! can anyone answer? please

Tried it with Phone Alarm. sort of worked at the second attempt. But not quite. If I spent more time on it I reckon I could have got it to work but just don't have the time.

crazyC said:
Tried it with Phone Alarm. sort of worked at the second attempt. But not quite. If I spent more time on it I reckon I could have got it to work but just don't have the time.
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but you can actually do it? what do you do about the activation codes etc?

The code is probably just stored in the registry or a config file after you enter it, in which case just make an RGU in the package putting the right data into the right place.
Some software might encrypt the code.. but even then usually putting the right encrypted string in the right place will work.. You may have to have the owner information set exactly the same each time (as this may be hashed into the generated key) but this isnt a problem as you can set the owner information in the RGU as well.
If you get a program where you cannot track the installation to see what happens when entering serials etc.. try SKTracker.. you can use it to watch the ppc for changes to files, databases and registry and dump those changes for analysis... so you install it.. make a reference dump.. then install/register the app.. then dump again.. then compare to see what has changed.
Some apps it wont work with of course.. but i'd imagine for most it will be possible yes. The worst that happens is you have the app installed in trial mode.. and a text file burned to the ROM with the serials you have bought in it to re-register it when needed after a hard reset.

Yeah - SK tracker is fantastic. Generally it just involves exporting a reg key from your PPC and then putting it into the cab/package along with your owner name (in some cases).
All my licensed software has been set to install via cabs including the keys. Not found any that cannot be done this way.
Problems arise with more complicated installs that involve interfacing with the system. Just using the normal conversion process with the PA cab did not work, needed to run SK tracker and fix a load more reg entries that were changed by the instll prcess. Improved it but still had issues with no sounds etc. I must have missed something, and have temporarily given up. The cab only takes a minute to install anyway.

[APP] Windows Mobile SenseTimeTracker

On CodePlex I have published my app for tracking working time.
It is based on the SenseUI SDK.
SenseTimeTracker
For furter feature development either this thread can be used or the discussions in CodePlex.
After getting some feedback according to installation problems, I figured out, that the deployed .cab file does not contain the SQL Server Compact 3.5.
This has to be installed manually until I do not provide a msi-setup.
Explanation on how to install the .NET Compact Framwork 3.5 and/or the SQL Server Compact 3.5 has been added on the CodePlex page.
Version history:
Version 1.3
* Length checking of input fields
* Bug fixed with reports when first time card has date in january
* Issue with localization fixed
* Category edit form localized
* Creating new category did throw an excexption
* Default category is hidden in category list
Version 1.2
* cab file now creates a shortcut
* new version detection added
Version 1.1
* Initial release after UI redesign

Installation Procedure
Hi, Could you explain the Installation procedure, other than download and install is there any other additional requirement to get this program up and running?
Thanks

Download the cab file, copy to your mobile device and run it from there.
This shall install SenseTimeTracker on you mobile device.
Let me know if it doesn't, since it is my first publishing. I only installed it on my device or the emulator.

Test
OK! I downloaded you app, installed and found the following problem, btw I am on a Blackstone using G10 Dusk Ultimate 2 v 8.31
1) There is no icon present for your apps in the programs menu.
I went to programs found the your app and try starting it from there, I got the following error

Ok, SQL server was not deployed. I will try to fix this and provide an update.
On my devices there has been SQLCE installed, so I didn't recognize it.
Thanks for the hint.

wesch00 said:
Ok, SQL server was not deployed. I will try to fix this and provide an update.
On my devices there has been SQLCE installed, so I didn't recognize it.
Thanks for the hint.
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No problem was glad to help, I was looking for a program like that for sometime now , I will test again when you update

You have to install the SQL Server Compact manually, sorry.
See my explanation in CodePlex.

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OK! I downloaded you app, installed and found the following problem, btw I am on a Blackstone using G10 Dusk Ultimate 2 v 8.31
1) There is no icon present for your apps in the programs menu.
I went to programs found the your app and try starting it from there, I got the following error
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wesch00 said:
You have to install the SQL Server Compact manually, sorry.
See my explanation in CodePlex.
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Hi I downloaded and follow your instructions regarding the installation process and got the top half of the error I posted above when I tried starting the apps also no icon was installed in programs menu I tried it on G10 Ultimate 2 v8.40 release today

The icon issue I couldn't check yesterday, will do that asap. Did a lot of research how to deploy SQL Server Compact.
But could you run the app?

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The icon issue I couldn't check yesterday, will do that asap. Did a lot of research how to deploy SQL Server Compact.
But could you run the app?
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No, its not running, when I try runnunig it I get the same error box but only the top half of the message the bottom half is gone.

That makes no sense since allways an explanation of the exception is displayed.
If you installed the SQL Server Compact, can you try to delete the whole SenseTimeTracker folder in the program as well as in the documents directory (if there is one) and reinstall the cab again.
I checked this yesterday on a clean emulator and it worked. So without any further hints I cannot guess the problem.
Are you familar with developing smart device aps. Then I can send you the project for visual studio and you can try to deploy it from within VS. That shall work. Let me know.
I suggest to contact me via pm, I will help you to fix your problem.

wesch00 said:
That makes no sense since allways an explanation of the exception is displayed.
If you installed the SQL Server Compact, can you try to delete the whole SenseTimeTracker folder in the program as well as in the documents directory (if there is one) and reinstall the cab again.
I checked this yesterday on a clean emulator and it worked. So without any further hints I cannot guess the problem.
Are you familar with developing smart device aps. Then I can send you the project for visual studio and you can try to deploy it from within VS. That shall work. Let me know.
I suggest to contact me via pm, I will help you to fix your problem.
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Hi, I flashed an orginal HD rom, installed net, sql and then your apps went to programs and started timetracker and it worked, I reflashed a cooked rom did the installation and it also worked I tried entering some information I got some error that require me to restart timetracker one of the error is attached, I will flash G10 rom again as this is my rom of choice and I will let you know how that went
I must say thanks for what I have seen so far if I get it working on G10 rom I will do some more in dept testing.
Thanks again for sharing

Ok, I see, it has nothing to do with your ROM.
I think there is a bug with the categories which only occurs on an empty/fresh database. On my tests I've had everytome a filled one, since I implemented category support later on.
I had some minutes to try it on a fresh installtion. Unfortunatly I cannot reproduce this bug. Can you plz provide more info, what in which order you entered for getting this error. I first created a user which is mandatory. Then created a client, then a project for that client and then a task for that project. Now entering a timecard did work, since the default category ("unknown") was used. The error you've got is a key violation between task and category. This should not occour, but I need to know in what order you entered the data.

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Ok, I see, it has nothing to do with your ROM.
I think there is a bug with the categories which only occurs on an empty/fresh database. On my tests I've had everytome a filled one, since I implemented category support later on.
I had some minutes to try it on a fresh installtion. Unfortunatly I cannot reproduce this bug. Can you plz provide more info, what in which order you entered for getting this error. I first created a user which is mandatory. Then created a client, then a project for that client and then a task for that project. Now entering a timecard did work, since the default category ("unknown") was used. The error you've got is a key violation between task and category. This should not occour, but I need to know in what order you entered the data.
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Sorry for not replying sooner, I was trying some other roms but no luck getting this app to work on those other roms that I flash, for me its only working on stock and Energy GTX I am presently downloading a 6.5 rom to test all others has been 6.5.x.
I have been able to reproduce the error again and again, try this
Go to category select new and create a new category everything should be ok, create another one and it should crash, also I am unable to edit the category "unknown"

More Crashes
Hi, I did some more test and I got more errors I have attach one picture, let me try to explain
1) If I try to copy the TimCard it crashes
2) TaskName is to long it crahes
I got a couple more crashes but I forgot where in the apps they occour however it seems that is not handling user input error well maybe a dialog box should appear and tell the user that the TaskName is to long or something like that I also think you should try and test if all but most of the option like copy, remove, edit, maybe it my rom related but you could still check just to be sure.

Thx again for the responses.
Couls get it allready run with the other ROMs? I have no opinion about these ROMs. I do not use any special functiuons, it is only .Net-code. The only explanation I have would be that there are problems with drawing. Bit this is done by the SenseUI framework which I cannot modify or debug.
Now to the issues.
The Category issue I could allready fix for me, will update it soon. Dont use categores for the mean while, use only "Unknow". You can change it later when it works. The "Unknow" category should not be editable, I will hide it in the next release.
The issue with the task names beeing too long is a bit more difficult to fix, I'll try to find a solution (need a common one since this will be happen with all inputs).
For the issue with copying a time card, I need a screendum of the error. I use copying of time cards allmost every day and never had problems. So it should be some special in your entries. If I have the error output, I hope to have an idea.

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Thx again for the responses.
Couls get it allready run with the other ROMs? I have no opinion about these ROMs. I do not use any special functiuons, it is only .Net-code. The only explanation I have would be that there are problems with drawing. Bit this is done by the SenseUI framework which I cannot modify or debug.
Now to the issues.
The Category issue I could allready fix for me, will update it soon. Dont use categores for the mean while, use only "Unknow". You can change it later when it works. The "Unknow" category should not be editable, I will hide it in the next release.
The issue with the task names beeing too long is a bit more difficult to fix, I'll try to find a solution (need a common one since this will be happen with all inputs).
For the issue with copying a time card, I need a screendum of the error. I use copying of time cards allmost every day and never had problems. So it should be some special in your entries. If I have the error output, I hope to have an idea.
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Hi, I have flashed back to my rom of choice as I need it for work, I also used an apps name Pocket Time, I was hoping to get your working as your is mor mordern and has more options, anyway I will be able to test your program again this weekend and I its working for me I will change my rom and start using your apps I like it.
I have attach the detail section or the Task Name error for you to look at also I have attach the error and the error detail section of G10 rom maybe from those pictures you can figrue why it dosent start
The last five is from G10
Thanks

Thx for the dumps.
As I allready wrote, the problem with the length of the description is a common problem. I did know, that it wasn't checked. I will release a new version today (1.3) which supports those checks.
The other problem has something to do with the serialisation/deserialisation of the user settings. These are stored in an XML-file in the application directory. And it seems, that the existing date time format has problems.
Is the language of your G10 ROM a different than the default ROM? I assume, you have created the XML the first time with on ROM and now trying to read it with another on. And the DateTime format of both are different and cannot be parsed.
Try to delete the xml-file in the app directory and start the app again with the G10 ROM. Let me know, if this solved the problem. May be I can then find a solution therefor. If you delete the xml-File, you will be asked for selecting a user. Select you previous eneterd user. If you navigate away from the user panel, you will be asked for the password you entered previously.
If you not allready entered sensitive data, you can send my the database (sdf-file) and the xml-file. Then I can try to debug it. I've had a lokk into the xml-file and saw there are only two time fields where the time is entered as 8:00:00 and 17:00:00. If this format is not valid on your ROM due to another culture, then this may cause the error you posted. What is the usual time format on your country?
Then I have a question according this ROM. The error occurs in Deserialize while reading a DateTime value. I have a try-parse in the deserializing section. So no exception should be thrown by the app. If there is an error in the XML file, defaults are used. I did try this on my device and ti worked that way. So I really do not know, why the exception is thrown. Ist there any special in your ROM handling exceptions?

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Thx for the dumps.
As I allready wrote, the problem with the length of the description is a common problem. I did know, that it wasn't checked. I will release a new version today (1.3) which supports those checks.
The other problem has something to do with the serialisation/deserialisation of the user settings. These are stored in an XML-file in the application directory. And it seems, that the existing date time format has problems.
Is the language of your G10 ROM a different than the default ROM? I assume, you have created the XML the first time with on ROM and now trying to read it with another on. And the DateTime format of both are different and cannot be parsed.
Try to delete the xml-file in the app directory and start the app again with the G10 ROM. Let me know, if this solved the problem. May be I can then find a solution therefor. If you delete the xml-File, you will be asked for selecting a user. Select you previous eneterd user. If you navigate away from the user panel, you will be asked for the password you entered previously.
If you not allready entered sensitive data, you can send my the database (sdf-file) and the xml-file. Then I can try to debug it. I've had a lokk into the xml-file and saw there are only two time fields where the time is entered as 8:00:00 and 17:00:00. If this format is not valid on your ROM due to another culture, then this may cause the error you posted. What is the usual time format on your country?
Then I have a question according this ROM. The error occurs in Deserialize while reading a DateTime value. I have a try-parse in the deserializing section. So no exception should be thrown by the app. If there is an error in the XML file, defaults are used. I did try this on my device and ti worked that way. So I really do not know, why the exception is thrown. Ist there any special in your ROM handling exceptions?
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Hi, I am using the original G10 WWE Ultimate 2 v8.31 rom out of the box in fact all the ROM I have tried this app on has been out of the box, will try flashing and trying your app again this weekend.
Are you using your app on an original stock rom or a cooked rom?

I'm using the app on the updated but original HTC ROM. But it did also work on the nonupdated.
The description of you exception shows me, that the problem has something to do with the localized date time format. What localizaion do you use. And I think you've got it allready running with another ROM. What localization do you have there?
What I totally do not understand, in my opinion there should not be thrown an exception, since serialization is done within a try/catch block. If there is an deserialization error, it should be catched and defaults should be used, which I have testet.

[PROJ] Prescription Medicines Manager v0.9.0 17-03-2011

This app is designed so that you can keep track of any medications you take on a regular basis.
When you last ordered a particular drug, how many you currently have to hand, which surgery the repeat was requested from and which pharmacy filled the prescription.
It is designed to be used for multiple patients, surgeries, pharmacies and doctors.
It was initially an Access database but I thought that migrating it to my PPC was a challenge I might be able to complete.
There will also be the ability to log doctor's appointments as well, hopefully.
All data is currently stored in an SQL-CE database.
For reasons I am currently trying to solve, when you open any secondary form with a data table and then return to the main menu you are unable to go back into any other form again.
Changed to a tabbed layout, screen shots attached.
09/02/2011
New version attached with new format SQLCE.
17-Mar-2011
Latest version attached
All data entry and editing working - I hope.
08-Apr-2011
Latest version, autoscroll and popup SIP.

Possible dependant files.
I am coding for CF2.

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[PROJ] Prescription Medicines Manager
...medications you take on a regular basis.
When you last ordered a particular drug, how many you currently have to hand, which surgery the repeat was requested from and which pharmacy filled the prescription...
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Thank you!
These records can be life-saving if you have them with you at the right time. I have tried many systems of keeping track, but rarely managed to have anywhere close to this much information on hand.
I have not had time to try it out properly so I do not yet have any comments or suggestions. For now, I just wanted to say THANKS!

Glad it's going to be if use to someone.
Hopefully by the end of tonight I will have a new version up with the ability to add records to each of the tables. No interlinking yet and at the moment editing is also broken but I am getting there.

deedee said:
Glad it's going to be if use to someone.
Hopefully by the end of tonight I will have a new version up with the ability to add records to each of the tables. No interlinking yet and at the moment editing is also broken but I am getting there.
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Don't feel rushed on my account. It's great that you're interested in this project, whenever you finish will be soon enough.
Meanwhile, I'll play with it and start planning how to "feed" it my information.
Have you considered some sort of encryption? It just occurred to me that it will hold a lot of very personal information.
Again, thank you.

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...at the moment editing is also broken...
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I know next to nothing about programming, but would the PC editor you wrote for the W Watcher calc work for this project? That might make it easier for the user to input the information AND save you some programming...
(BTW: I was very impressed with how quickly you developed those applications! Very usable and no charge for fast delivery!)

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I know next to nothing about programming, but would the PC editor you wrote for the W Watcher calc work for this project? That might make it easier for the user to input the information AND save you some programming...
(BTW: I was very impressed with how quickly you developed those applications! Very usable and no charge for fast delivery!)
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Unfortunately the WW editor is designed for an XML file and this app keeps everything in an SQLCE database. I am trying to find a nice, useable and, more importantly, free desktop app to edit these files and am trying a couple out at present.
While a purely PC based editor would be easier from a WM coding point it would stop the app being completely mobile and standalone.

New version added to post 1.
You can now add records.
For desktop managemnent try
SQLCE Desktop Manager
FlyHoward SDF viewer
Neither of these seem to be free though the second one does have a 14 day trial.

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... While a purely PC based editor would be easier from a WM coding point it would stop the app being completely mobile and standalone...
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Of course!
Sorry, I got tunnel vision and forgot the project's purpose.

What am I missing?
I have been unable to run Prescription Medicines Manager on my HTC 8925 (Kaiser) with WM 6.5.x.
When I run the EXE all that happens is that the WM wait animation plays indefinitely until I switch to another application.
Since I play with this phone a lot, I hard reset it to clear any lingering results of my modding (it's a spare phone, so no great loss). Before installing other programs, I ran PMM again, but the same thing happened.
I got the same results with an even older HTC phone running WM 6.1.

SQL desktop applications
I found some free SQL desktop apps. I was only able to get one, SdfBrowser, to read MedicalRecords.sdf and all it allowed was viewing the structure and creating a query.
I'll keep looking, but I agree with you that being totally portable is very important for this project.
LINKS: SdfBrowser --- Resources link

Jesterfell said:
I have been unable to run Prescription Medicines Manager on my HTC 8925 (Kaiser) with WM 6.5.x.
When I run the EXE all that happens is that the WM wait animation plays indefinitely until I switch to another application.
Since I play with this phone a lot, I hard reset it to clear any lingering results of my modding (it's a spare phone, so no great loss). Before installing other programs, I ran PMM again, but the same thing happened.
I got the same results with an even older HTC phone running WM 6.1.
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Completely forgot to say, you will need to install SQL CE on your HTC.

I do not usually resort to smileys, but my lack of knowledge is frustrating!
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Completely forgot to say, you will need to install SQL CE on your HTC.
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I installed SQL CE with no errors but got the same lack of results. The phone did become VERY sluggish and Task Manager still showed "prjMedicalRecords" running as a process.
Does prjMedicalRecords.exe need to be installed?
I just executed it from the SD card, and then tried it from the device memory. I placed MedicalRecords.sdf in the same directory each time.
Update: After about 5 min of the WM wait animation spinning, got the following error message:
"File or assembly name 'System.Data.SqlServerCe,Version 3.0.3600.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=3BE235DF1C8D2AD3', or one of its dependencies, was not found."
I opened the SQL CE .CAB file and it DOES contain "system.data.sqlserverce.dll" it is meant to be installed to "%InstallDir%" and the rest of the DLLs go to "%InstallDir%\v3.5". I used file explorer to look in those directories (%InstallDir%="Microsoft SQL Server Compact Edition") but did NOT find "system.data.sqlserverce.dll" in either dir.
I copied the DLL to "%InstallDir%\v3.5" and ran the program again. The same results occurred.
After soft reset, copied the DLL to "%InstallDir%" and ran PMM again. The same thing happened, long wait, then error msg.
I am falling asleep now, but will try re-installing .NET 3.5 and running PMM again. I'll let you know what happens.
I had gotten the same error before installing SQL CE but did not connect the error to PMM so I ignored it. This time nothing else was happening on the phone.

Apologies for not giving the initial steps, I am new to development and forget others need to be given the assumptions.
SQLCE needs to be installed, as you have done. PMM is just an exe, copy it to the device.
PMM and the SDF file need to be placed in \Program Files\prjMedicalRecords on the device itself. At the moment this location is hard coded and is on my list of things to do to make it "moveable". HTH

New version in post 1 that is now independent of location, just make sure both exe and SDf are in thhe same place.

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New version in post 1 that is now independent of location, just make sure both exe and SDf are in thhe same place.
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Sorry, Deedee. It still does the same thing.
.1. I put both files in device memory (just in case): \Program Files\prjMedicalRecords\
.2. Tried to re-install NET framework 3.5--it refused to install in either device or card memory, saying the same version was already in ROM.
.3. Re-installed sqlceppcwce5armv4i.cab
.4. Ran prjMedicalRecords.exe
After the same delay, it gave the same error.
It also gave a NET error that, because of the delay between program launch and errors, I did not associate with Medical Records before, but it only occurs after I have launched prjMedicalRecords.exe:
"The application failed to load required components. If the .NET Compact Framework is installed on a storage card, please ensure that this card is in place and launch the application again. If this fails, a re-installation of .NET compact Framework is recommended. Support info: -2147483643 (80000005)"​
Thank you for your continued interest.

Not sure what the error is pointing to but I am coding for .Net CF v2, CAB in post 2, try installing this.

OK, finally tried this on a virgin device, without using the "debug" option in VS2005 to copy the files and discovered that .NET CF2, along with SQLCE 3 and SQL CE 3 replication is needed.
All CABs are in post 2.
There is a new version hopefully out this weekend with the ability to log patient medications and doctors appointments.
Editing is still on the road map, as is deletion.

New version in post #1, CAB format as well.
Make sure all the dependencies are installed, for me this has been .NET CF2 and the SQLCE cabs.
There are bugs I am aware of but please list anything and everything. As this is my first real App any feedback is welcome.

The opening of the Wave bootloader through FOTA

Hi everyone,
Many people have complained about the Wave bootloader being closed and that being major problem for the development of alternative OS.
I had a closer look at the booting process and would like to contribute my observations to the community. I shall have little time (next to none) to work on it further, so I'd like someone to take it from this point.
OK, that said I can introduce you to what I found:
The booting process starts with initialization of the hardware, interrupts, etc. and gets to the selection of the booting mode. This is the place that checks the key combination, JIG and possible problems. Basing on this the bootloader will run the phone in either normal boot mode, go to dowload or upload mode.
Normal boot shall start with checking the FOTA module. If you already tried flashing your phone you probably noticed that some versions of the FW include a file with *.fota extension. The file is unencrypted and not signed. It's about 2MB, but the bootloader reserves exactly 3MB for it. FOTA is intended to be used for firmware update over the air, but I know nothing about it being used for Wave. You may read something about the design and get a concept of that process here:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/pdfb/documents/usapp/patent_pdf/2010/017/US20100175062/pdf/US20100175062.pdf
Basically, it is possible that boot would need to perform some actions that are a result of FOTA. Therefore, during the normal boot it reads the FOTA module from the NAND (0xC600000) and checks whether the module exists and is in the right version. That is done by checking a magic (text "FOTA_ENGINE_VER_INFO_2.0") under the 0xC600100. If it is found missing or incorrect you will end up with the message "FOTA Engine is not intalled" or "FOTA Engine version mismatch" on the screen and you will need to restart your phone in the download mode to load it.
After that, the code checks for additional magic values at 0xC880000. In case it is "BPDZ" it jumps to the code in the FOTA file. The contents of the file is loaded to RAM location 0x43800000 and executed from there.
I've made an experiment as a proof-of-concept and have a confirmed that the above is true and valid information. I crafted a FOTA file longer that the usual attached (to be bigger than 2,5 MB). In case you want to repeat that, remember that last 1024 bytes are not loaded and insert additional data before that. My file had two magic values:
"FOTA_ENGINE_VER_INFO_2.0" at 0x100 offset and "BPDZ" at 0x280000. At offset 0 I've placed my code that started with several NOPs (just in case) and code that called original bootloader functions to display text on the screen.
After loading the file with Multiloader, the message appeared on the screen as expected. Reloading of the original FOTA file made the phone boot normally.
The discovery opens wide area of possibilities starting with replacing bootloader without signing it or using JTAG, multiboot, etc.
As the original bootloader is in the memory as well, we can use it, but I would not recommend that approach as we would need additional version control and changing original routines and data addresses for each version.
OK. I hope I made it clear enough to understand, but I can clarify what I might have omitted in the description. The idea is that someone here would pick that up from where I finished and develop a decent loader leaving the original files (apart from FOTA) untouched.
Best Regards,
mijoma
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Edit: Added proof-of-concept FOTA file (based on XXJL2 FOTA). Use wisely - remember you take full responsibility for what you load on your phone. Works ONLY with XXJL2 bootloader.

Very interesting ... great job

My little knowledge/experiments...
1.
Before I NEVER updated manually FOTA. I never seen any Errors like other user... with FOTA not installed or something similar.
Maybe reason is, because my testdevice has NO active SIM card, so no network...
2.
I've tested examples from mijoma. On XXJL2 Boot...
Simple only flash FOTA with Multiloader.
At your own risk. Not all sideeffects known.
I had NO problems.
3.
Results... I can't see any special after Flashing. But I can go through internal menu, see Pictures.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906966
Normally I have more messages... but with modified FOTA Wave restarts. So the way is correct.
4.
Delta files are sometimes in Firmware also with Boot... I will add next Link to what I found about Delta files...
Delta Files are part of FOTA concept...
5.
Depend on Firmware... Software update... but sometimes is this point removed and I can't login, because no network...
In other words, I have to start FOTA over this internal menu to see that it is doing something.
Best Regards

@adfree
I think you are testing the previous version. Could you confirm you are using mod version 2?
Best Regards,
mijoma

bplib_S8500OpEuro_XXJL2_mijoma_mod2.zip
You are right, not tested yet. Only prior Version.
I will test today mod2 and report later.
I have to flash back to XXJL2... as I play actual on Orange JE7.
Thank you.
Best Regards

YT: watch?v=A35k3E1F1O4
It's working....
Best regards.

Amazing job dude. It seems like this could help us to change booting stuff

Nice work mijoma !!!

I can confirm it works.
Now I see the same like on this Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A35k3E1F1O4
Thanx jedil1 for Link.
Sorry mijoma.
I have no idea where I made mistake...
This time my first Test was Full Flash (without Boot)...
Second only FOTA and it works too... Original, then yours...
If you flash "Full", then you interrupt the Index process at Start, where Blue Screen shows...
Best Regards

Great job!!!
And my opinion,this is a single way to starting full working android on s8500,
because we need to initialize the modem at bootloader stage for fuel gauge.
i temporary use modem from m130k without fuel gauge.

Few Firmware packages have Delta files:
Code:
delta.bin
delta_AP.bin
delta_CFS.bin
delta_CP.bin
delta_CRSRC.bin
delta_FS.bin
delta_LFS_01.bin
delta_LFS_02.bin
delta_RSRC2.bin
Around 16 MB...
If I use Google for "Delta Files FOTA"... then I can also find this:
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20100175062
Theory/ideas
What we also can do with this Security hole:
- maybe "move" folder System to SD or internal Memory, to have no more problems with RC1
- maybe someone is smart enough, to integrate Dump Function for Dump whole RAM or moviNAND... like JTAG
See Upload function...
Best Regards

adfree said:
- maybe someone is smart enough, to integrate Dump Function for Dump whole RAM or moviNAND... like JTAG
See Upload function...
Best Regards
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I think that Samsung have thought of that already. I had not analysed that as so far, but there's UPLOAD option in the bootloader (handled by a bit separate code from DLOAD). I haven't got the wave, so I never tested it.
You can make a patch on my mod and place a direct jump to that code. I've made a quick patch so you can try it out. I don't know whether there's any software that can handle that mode. I've made a look and there are several funny commands that can be used:
"PrEaMbLe"
"AcKnOwLeDgMeNt"
"PoStAmBlE"
"PoWeRdOwN"
"DaTaXfEr"
Remember that this time we're dealing with some real functionality of the bootloader and that may have some consequences so use on your own risk.
Best Regards,
mijoma
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Edit: Sorry if anyone tried loading it. By mistake I've used addressing from XXJEE. I've changed the name to represent what it was and added a correct file for XXJL2 bootloader

Upload to PC is in combination with Debug Mode higher then Low...
After you see Bluescreen with very interesting infos you can press Button, then Upload to PC on Screen. But I don't know how to catch Data, as no COM Port is visible.
Btw...
Now I know where I made big mistake.
First tests I used XEKC2 Firmware with XXJL2 Bootloader, as I thought its only Bootloader related. Sorry.
My fault.
So there must be more then Bootloader from XXJL2 in handset, to run successfully FOTA Mod2.
About new Mod with Upload, I will investigate this time better, before I'll report.
Thank you.
Best Regards

We need to get this guy a wave to test stuff on! Who wants to donate theirs ha

sabianadmin said:
We need to get this guy a wave to test stuff on! Who wants to donate theirs ha
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It may have sounded like a joke, but I second that....
He's seems trustworthy and very capable of being sucessful Just like adfree, oleg_k and other guys over there.

I have my paypal account limited but in 1 month I'll b able to donate maybe 20€

Thanks guys, but I don't think it's necessary.
I do it for fun - don't need any other gratification. Wave got me interested with the effort the manufacturer put trying to keep it closed. I don't need a handset to disassemble the bootloader.

The question is more would you like a wave for you're efforts as otherwise you really won't be able to benefit from you're own work when we have meego, android, webOS etc booting on the Wave. Theres no extra pressure, sure you have already done the trickiest part of the work.

No, I'm being completely honest here. I find this rather a weird form of relax than work.
Wave is a nice phone and I think I'm going to get myself one, but I don't expect a gift.

mijoma said:
Wave is a nice phone and I think I'm going to get myself one, but I don't expect a gift.
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You are a champ, buddy
Good luck !
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An open letter of thanks to so many contributors on XDA-developers

A brief history:
Several weeks ago my stock Gingerbread G2's touchscreen started dying. Replacing the touchscreen didn't solve the problem. I was able to continue using it via the keyboard for a little while and, in the meantime, enabled USB Debugging (thank the stars!) while I waited for a replacement phone to arrive. I could still access some functions using the keyboard & thumbpad, although usability was limited due to the inability to back out of an application. Cue lots of battery pulls to restart at the homescreen (a pox on designers who forget one of the fundamental rules of UI: It should always be possible to go back using the current input device!).
Then the screen started a somewhat frazzled HTC image loop during boot, shortly after I started testing ADB & fastboot. Curiously it was still booting the underlying OS, as evidenced by the various chimes telling me I had messages etc, and I could still access it via ADB.
My new phone arrived (a Sony Xperia Z3 Compact. I still would prefer a proper keyboard though. Another pox on designers/manufactures who focus on marketing fads instead of functionality. I don't give a rat's arse if my phone is only 2.48291mm thick and has a screen the size of my 1st laptop. I want something small enough to use in one hand, and that has a hardware keyboard) & happily downloaded my contacts from the Borg....I mean, Google, but not notes or SMS/MMS etc. Leading to today....
I tried Sony's transfer app, but without screen viewing let alone touchscreen ability it wouldn't work (PC version, due Android version on the problem phone wasn't acceptable). Ditto problems with other root exploits. Even trying to use a recovery image on the SD card wouldn't work due to the non-root status. The recovery menu would only accept a stock image. An overriding consideration was that I didn't want to just gain root by what ever method, but I wanted to preserve my notes & sms/mms data, so fastbooting a factory image wasn't satisfactory - as far as I could tell, that would delete everything. After over a week of 0300, 0400, 0530 bed times while reading & trying the methods given in some huuuge number of XDA threads and some other websites, last night I was able to get temp root using the fre3vo exploit! Yay! At one point I had 70 threads open. It was an XDA-dev. thread that gave me the exploit though. Still couldn't do a simple Linux/Unix cp command in ADB shell to save the data but at least the file system was accessible now. Bloody frustrating!
Anyway, a bit more Googling & XDA-ing to find file locations & command formats and tonight I was able to use the ADB pull command to download the whole of the /data directory to my PC. Data saved! Even better, the Linux distro on my PC already has SQlite software to open the files. Even more yay!
I haven't tried to upload to my Xperia Z3C, but I will soon. Meanwhile my data is now available in my PC so phone access isn't as important anymore.
Some thoughts on what I went through:
Manufacturers: You do your customers a vast dis-service by making it so hard to salvage the data.
Service providers: Ditto, due to your insistance on locking down the system on the phones you sell
XDA contributers: I couldn't have done this without you, however.....it would have been easier if you *always* specified what would change/be wiped when you describe your exploit/change/recovery process. I was hesitant to try some methods due to not knowing if my data would be wiped in the process.
And after all that: Who the hell would ever want a phone that wasn't rooted? I don't even install Linux OS on my systems unless root can be gained (Ubuntu & Mint, I'm looking at you! Sudo isn't sufficient...) so I've learnt a lesson on my phone. If only I'd rooted it while it was still fully functional!
Next task? Rooting my Z3C before something goes ' bzzzzt!' on it!