Hi all, my first post here, i cant help it but i am nearly 65, bald and retired !.
I treated myself to a Desire last week, un-branded, £10 month with Tescos.
I have been Rooted a few days now, i want to Flash a Rom next, but with so many out there, where do i start ?.
At a guess i do believe i should try CyanogenMOD 7 , but please bear in mind i am completely new to this Smartphone business and i am slow in picking things up, so is "CM7" a bit too much for my grey matter, or am i putting obsticles in the way that dont really exist !
I was very pleased with my faultless rooting, and i have rehearsed the Rom Flashing continuosly using Rom Manager which looks as if it does all the dirty work for me.
If there is a ROM for noobies i havent found it yet !!!!
Tim
You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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Hi Mr Ghost, i am well pleased somebody replied, CM7 is simply the one that crops up the most. The word Sense, does this by any chance mean HTC Sense ? so if a Rom doesnt have Sense that must mean it doesnt have many or any of the features that make my current ROM more friendly to use.
If CM7 doesnt have SENSE does that mean that the keyboard doent do Landscape mode ?
LEEDROID yeah i could have a go at that one, TA ......... i dont really want to have to partition my SD card, i read about a Goldcard if you partition etc. which doesnt sound v. good.
O yes, i found that Rom Manager Backs Up my original ROM and Wipes, does it ONLY wipe the phones memory ?
thanks for you help
tim
Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Thanks, so it is LEEDROID for starters thanks buddy, i still dont know what a Goldcard is though, perhaps i dont need to know LOL.
One small problem, LEEDROID isnt available in the list of roms in Rom Manager, i suppose i shall have download it "manually" and get it in the relevant Rom Manager Folder, great sorted i should be able to do that.
I have Titanium Backup Pro as well so its best if i Backup "All user apps" that should be sufficient, yeah ? and itll be no good Backing up ANYTHING ELSE, becuase if restored it would mess up LEEDROID, am i correct with that assumption ?
tim
Yes i would say start with Leedroid.
Best thing is to only back up user apps, i never back up anything else. Most likely it will mess something up.
The goldcard is only needed when using a RUU with branded devices, for normal flashing you don't need one.
Just download the Leedroid noA2SD version and put in on your sd, not in any folder just on the sd. Then in rom manager go to install rom form sd and find the zip file.
Edit: looks like the site went down, here's another link. http://db.tt/FBKcMZD
Thanks for that info pal, youre a star.
I havent seen any mention on this site (although i havent searched for it yet) of the battery not lasting very long, however, off topic i suppose, and you can bollock me for that if you like,:-
for internet on my Desire at home i always use my home WiFi, my off topic question is, does WiFi take more out of the battery than using my Providers GSM/WCDMA connection ? i have hardly made a dent on my Providers Data allowance.
tim
What uses more power depends a bit on how strong your 3g signal is, if it's weak it will probably use more power on mobile data and if it's strong, wifi will use more data but this is no gonne make a significant difference on your battery life.
Usually the battery life gets better after some time, also let your battery drain once until the phone powers itself off and then charge it, while it's off, till it's full. Then use it normally again.
Absolutely brilliant Pal, thanks for sticking with me answering my questions for the last hour or two, it was really good of you thanks.
I will definitely try that with my battery next time it needscharging up, thanks.
I will report back tommorrow whether or not i still have a fully functioning phone, LOL. i feel far more confident about "doing it" now, afterall i'm not likely to be "doing it" with anything else ROFL !!!
tim
phew i had difficulty in locating the file, i eventually found the Leedroid Rom here
http://leedroid.com/bravo-roms
I also saw a "radio" file for the same Rom, dam, i have downloaded the latest version and will put it on my SD card the same place as the Rom file in the ROOT directory.
Until i got an Android Phone, i had only used Windows in all it's various versions, of course in Windows, the word ROOT simply means the Top (or bottom?) of the Folder Tree
but of course the same word can mean several hundred pounds when getting it wrong
PS.. do i need to do anything with this extra feature:-
•Re-added “Mod install location” to No A2SD build•
Tim
Root of the sd means not in a folder.
If you are currently on android 2.2 there is no real need to change radio. If you do change radio make sure you are absolutely sure what you are doing.
And you shouldn't have anything to do regarding the mod installation location.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks that is what i was trying to say !.
Ok on the other two things, ta
Tim
Leedroid Flashed yippee
Thanks for all your help Mr Ghost, i am happily using the Leedroid Rom now, all went smoothly, the battery is still going down preety quickly, i am getting a new battery from HTC any day now, which may perform better than my original ?, but at least i shall have a spare LOL.
Tim
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
germsandbugs said:
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
timmy toad said:
Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
timmy toad said:
Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
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Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
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Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
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AAAhhhh, Now you have completely befuddled me !, i dont know what you mean by N1 table table scripts in terminal etc.
I think i will stay as i am thanks, i am not quite so serious at getting my hands dirty as most of you are !. LOL
tim
Hi everyone i rooted my phone last night for the first time with LeeDroid, all that seemeed to happen was that it went back to the way i got the phone in the first place
I dont have Market, and if im honest i have no idea what to do
Can anyone help at all please ?
Thanks
Phil
Would i be better just downloading the 2.4 rom and trying that ?
How will i know that the ROM is installed correctly as like i said before it just seems like a new phone i got straight out the box ?
thanks
When you flashed the ROM did you do a full wipe? and Dalvik Cache too?
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When you flashed the ROM did you do a full wipe? and Dalvik Cache too?
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Honest answer , dont know
i think i rooted it correctly using Revoked, or it appeared like it did
in the software info on the phone it has this which to me means nothing but to someone it will
android 2.2
kernel version
2.6.32.15_leedroid_2.3 [email protected] # 1
software number
LeeDroid_V2.3d
Can you help ? thanks
That is a successful flash mate by the looks of it. Of course you lose all apps and settings after flash, and as far as I know leedroid is a sense Rom, so it looks very similar to what you got out of the box, but now you can mod it and flash different kernels and scripts, like data2ext.
Oh, and regarding market, just search for market apk and install it the way you'd install any app.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
LeeDroid looks and feels like a stock rom but with added extra bits, and speed.
you can overclock or underclock with setcpu run rooted apps.
the good thing about LeeDroid is that it looks familiar so it's a good starter rom to play about with. if you want something other than sense try a Miui rom or Redux.
Ive got 2.4 now but i have 2 issues
1. the market force closes when i select an app
2. when adding the htc people widget it lists no people in where they usually
Thanks
Now my SD card is saying Mounted Read only ?
any ideas ?
did you make an ext partition and a full wipe?
I don 't have any issues with this rom
Yes and i just tried to go back to delete and redo a new partition but its not showing only my pc is ???
i just reset it and now im getting the leedroid background i wasnt getting before , ive had to setup everything back from the beginning , facebook passwords etc
market is now working but im still getting the mounted read ony error
Either corrupt card or bad partitioning. Just partition it in recovery and search for ext align tool on Baadnewz blog. Google is your friend.
If partitioning doesn't help, try different card.
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ok sorted that last issue but how will i know if ive partitioned the sd card correctly ?
ive got a 16gb one and it says total space 13.75 & available space 13.47gb
and on the internal it only says 129mb
why is this ?
What was the fix for the last issue? If you don't provide full info we won't know where it could have fine wrong.
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tinky i partitioned it as you said in recovery but then i couldnt get past the loading screen with the joker on it aftwerwards
So i went back into recovery and i had to do a restore that was the only way i got it working and the memory card issue also vanished
Now its working properly should i backup my current ROM in ROM manager ?
what else do i need to do to make sure i dont **** it up in future ?
Also how will i know if ive partitioned the sd card correctly ?
ive got a 16gb one and it says total space 13.75 & available space 13.46gb
and on the internal it only says 116mb
How much space you assigned to ext? Also, not all roms support ext4, so if you did use align tool, then quite possibly that your Rom just can't see ext partition. Solution, partition again but this time don't use align tool which will convert any ext partition to ext4.
Regarding not loading after partitioning that is sort of expected, restore done the trick for you. Regarding not getting into this situation again, once you get it right just use recovery to do nandroid and ext backup, and keep it safely on pc, in case you need to change SD card. Then you just partition new card and do restore.
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Brilliant , thanks Tinky
Did it work?
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Anyone having issues on the latest Leedroid 2.4 with apps that have been updgraded from in-app billing?
Have one app (quota) which is now disabled due to the fact that the upgrade is now in progress whereas it worked fine on 2.3d.
The app dev suspects it is ROM and market related as other stock ROM users haven't had the same issue.
Hello all,
I'm just a beginner who is starting to get his head around things after reading a lot on this forum.
I have rooted my HTC Desire a few days ago following the video tutorial on the development section of the forum on all its steps. I then flashed RevolutionN 3D 1.5 ROM which i think is great after trying a couple that weren't so fast and smooth.
Before flashing the Revolution ROM i formatted my 4GB SD card (which has 1GB ext4 partition), did a full factoy reset, cleared Dalvik cache. However i'm finding myself with as little as 40MB of internal storage available which i have filled up very quickly.
What am i doing wrong?
I thought i was going to have plenty more of space, that's why i rooted the phone in the first place.
Can someone would be so kind to help with this please?
Thanks in advance
To have the phone rooted so that we can flash a custom ROM.
To have more data space, we have to s-off the phone and then flash a new hboot such as CM7R2 or Data++ and so on.
Never try that ROM but I notice that there are two kinds, one is for data++ (for CM7R2, Data++ hboot) and a2sd+ for stock hboot like what you have now.
Do you flash the right a2sd+ ROM ?
I have just checked and i flashed the Data++ ROM....
thanks for pointing that out...i didn't realize it was so simple
im going to flash the new A2SD+ and let you know
Thanks
After flashing the a2sd+ i have more than 100MB of space
thanks for your help!!
Hopefully 100MB is enough for you.. For some people even 1 GB aint enough!
Hello I have also problem with the low space. Think that all desire users have... I have the stock rom, version 2.3 and unroot the rom. I had 140mb space. I installed lot of apps and moved all the apps to sd card. But even you move the app to sd card, the phone memory always used and now my phone memory is very low. What are the alternatives to get more space. Is it possible to move the apps to sd card for 100%
Search for A2SD+ and DATA2SD.
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Only with DATA2SD. Otherwise your app data will remain on internal memory decreasing it over time.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using XDA App.
so i made s-off and installed clockwork recovery touch and then i installed ISC 4.0.3.
but problem is when people call me i cant receive calls. when friends complained i tried and i just hangs up by it self. i dont even get notification and person who is calling me just hears hang up sound. not even one ring.
dose anyone has same problem and what should i do?
second problem is with memory.
i made partitions with clockwork recovery and installed it with terminal but when i try to install any app i get insufficient storage error even so in titanuim backup everything is more then free
have any advice what to do?
please. it kinda urgent!
The ics roms are beta as far as I know, so you could be having problems with a specific Rom. Would be good to ask in that thread.
As for memory, are you sure you made a proper ext partition when you installed a Rom and looking at internal storage, not just as storage?
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tnx for replay
Would be good to ask in that thread.
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i know but i still cant post in developers threads so i'm trying to get 10 post asap but without some big spam
are you sure you made a proper ext partition when you installed a Rom and looking at internal storage, not just as storage?
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well since my mobile stopped working cos rom crashed (miui) i had to do everything from the beginning. so i wiped everything and made partition with recovery so i dont think i made mistake while partitioning.
as far as looking which storage... well sd card is empty and i dont have any apps installed (only those which come with rom) so trust me... it's all empty. i made screenshots but i cant post outside links yet.
Switch your ROM
ICS ROMs are experimental, if you want your phone to be every day phone better switch to AOSP Built ROM's like CM7, they are more reliable then anyother ROM available.
I too have tried dozen of ROM's the stablest of them are those who don't use EXT partition of SD card and thus they should be your first choice if you want stability,
I would suggest - CyanogenMod 7.1
I see. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you did anything wrong, but the ics roms are beta stage. I have only been able to get the tiny ics Rom to boot and it was too laggy to try to call. The one for all hboot did not work too. As above, cyanogen is a good option for close to stock android. Theres also roms that are skinned to look like ics that work super fast. Hope you solve your problem of not being able to call, this is a phone afterall lol
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thx guys!!
i will try cm7.1 then.
cos after whole week of trying to get it work i just dont have enough will to continue. and i really need my phone working asap
SOLVED.
all i had to do is partition my ext3 to ext4
lol. well i also changed recovery from clockworkmod touch to amon ra.
and with amon ra i wiped everything and formated ext. i also used smaller ext. from 2048 to 700 and something.
then i partition from ext3 to ext4 and installed isc 4.0.4. and now everything is working.
as for calls... will see if it happens again.
Hello,
I am new to the rom and root thingy, but I managed to get my desire rooted with Unr3voked. That was running fine and with no problems. A few months ago I wanted a custom ICS rom, so I found one (Sandvolds one). I searched around the internet because I didn't know how to do it . I discovered I needed to have S-OFF but I hadn't. So I rooted my desire again using Revolutionary, and it was S-OFF. Then I downloaded the ROM and installed it using Clockworkmod. It installed fine, I put back my back up and it was running smoothly (Beta 0.8 btw). For a couple months it runned perfect, and I had no reason to update, so I didn't read the changelog and such things (yeah i know stupid). Now, whenever I try to install an app that needs to be in the internal memory, it says: Error. Not enough space (or something, I am dutch). This wasn't really a problem though, because I pretty much had every app i wanted on the internal memory. But I deleted whatsapp per accident and it won't let me install it again . For some reason deleting Boat Browser worked, but only for whatsapp. I actually want to update youtube and such so I want it actually to work again. Another question: are the updates of the ROM worth updating? Because i don't feel like doing it all again if there isn't a real reason. If so, how do I update it? So that i don't need to wipe everything, or do i have to install it again (with wiping).
I love the rom though!
Timo
PS: is it normal that for the camera to work the free SD card space must be at least 100 MB?
Anyone?
Did you create a second partition on your sd card? Run the a2sd script afterwards to extend the internal memory as described in the first post of the ROM's thread.
I dont't use sandvold's rom, I use Dk_zero_cool's rom, so I dont know whether the rom is worth upgrading;
but if you decided to do so, you can backup almost everything with titanium backup and do nandroid backup in recovery, so if you are not satisfied with the update, you can go back to you current rom.
You problem should by solved, as jhl80 has written, by creating ext4 partition on you sd card....
You could also try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813745 , there is disc manager built into the rom
And if you stay with the new rom, then use titanium to recover you apps+data.
Thx for the replys. Is this (pielmeier.blogspot.nl/2012/07/installing-apps2sd-for-htc-desire.html?m=1.) how you create a ext4 partition? I Will stay with 0.8 because there are some problems in 0.18! (Losing root acces).
Which a2sd script should i use then? I already have backups.